Completely lost in what to do. Save is lost or isn't, ReSaver.exe doesn't work, help me.

[fekoll]

Ok so, i tried to load my recent save on SaveTool.exe and the program crashed when loading the specific save. I've already used SaveTool.exe before without any problems and i was able to clean some oprhan scripts, i didn't used the other option that says "Deleteall #" because it says that can do some things wrong.

 

After some searching i've read that it can be some string bug issue. I can load the specific save just fine and play and save, everything works fine in game. This is the list of mods that i have:

 

 

 

Masters for Save 283 - Lys  Jorrvaskr  40.19.44.ess: 

 

00  Skyrim.esm

01  Update.esm

02  Dawnguard.esm

03  HearthFires.esm

04  Dragonborn.esm

05  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.6]

06  Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp

07  AzarHair.esm

08  EFFCore.esm

09  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

0A  TouringCarriages.esp

0B  Cutting Room Floor.esp  [Version 2.0.3]

0C  Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esp

0D  RelightingSkyrim.esp

0E  Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

0F  RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp

10  SkyUI.esp

11  Dual Sheath Redux.esp

12  JaxonzDiagnostics.esp

13  ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp

14  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 2.00]

15  SpellChargingFramework.esp

16  Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

17  Balanced_Magic.esp

18  UltimateDragons.esp

19  TrueStorms.esp

1A  When Vampires Attack.esp  [Version 2.0.6]

1B  RelightingSkyrim_DG.esp

1C  Point The Way.esp  [Version 1.0.8]

1D  Run For Your Lives.esp  [Version 2.0.6]

1E  WetandCold.esp

1F  Melt_Down_Everything.esp

20  Rebirth Monster.esp

21  RelightingSkyrim_DB.esp

22  Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp

23  Cloaks.esp

24  quest_thebiggertheyare.esp

25  RelightingSkyrim_HF.esp

26  HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp

27  SpellComboV2.esp

28  Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp

29  quest_nomercy.esp

2A  Immersive Patrols II.esp

2B  quest_seaofghosts.esp

2C  tos_laintardale_hf.esp

2D  tos_laintardale.esp

2E  tos_oakwood_hf.esp

2F  tos_amber_guard.esp

30  tos_granitehall.esp

31  quest_pitfighter.esp

32  quest_sorcery.esp

33  quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp

34  BetterQuestObjectives.esp  [Version 1.5.7]

35  EFFDialogue.esp

36  RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp

37  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

38  SOS - Shop.esp

39  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.9]

3A  Extended Encounters.esp

3B  TC-CRF.esp             <<<<<<<      (Touring Carriages patch for CRF)

3C  IceBladeOfTheMonarch.esp  [Version 1.3]

3D  Imaginator BETA.esp

3E  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

3F  quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp

40  Unique Uniques.esp  [Version 1.8]

41  Black Mage Armor.esp

42  DragonRealShout.esp

43  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

44  1nivWICCloaks.esp  [Version 2.3]

45  1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp  [Version 2.3]

46  Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp

47  Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp

48  NARC.esp            <<<<<<        (to be able to kill animals and don't get arrested)

49  DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp

4A  IridumEyes2.0.esp

4B  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp

4C  XPMSE.esp

4D  RaceMenu.esp

4E  RaceMenuPlugin.esp

4F  FNIS.esp

50  Animated Dragon Wings.esp

51  More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp

52  More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp

53  ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp

54  Glass Mage Armor Ashlander Silver.esp

55  Glass Mage Armor Outlander Gold.esp

56  Glass Mage Armor Skyrim Vanilla.esp

57  Better Artifacts.esp

58  Better Artifacts - Dragon Priest Masks.esp

59  SkySight-Simply-Bigger-Trees-Slower-Branches.esp

5A  Sleeved Guards Winter Overhaul.esp

5B  UIExtensions.esp

5C  VioLens.esp  [Version 2.11]

5D  conjure_chest.esp

5E  GoToBed.esp

5F  CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp

60  FNISSexyMove.esp

61  BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp

62  BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

63  BetterQuestObjectives-EFFPatch.esp

64  BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

65  PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp

66  PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp

67  HoneyEyes.esp

68  ISD_DragonspearCraft.esp

69  El_WayfarersCoat.esp

6A  ISD_Dragonspear.esp

6B  R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp

6C  SOS - Phygnos Default Addon.esp

6D  SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

6E  SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

6F  SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

70  FS_Skycutter.esp

71  skyforgedWeapons.esp

72  skyforgedShields.esp

73  Bashed Patch, 0.esp          <<<<<  (this has 1kb only and i've never made a bashed patch)

74  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

I use Wrye Bash only, i use LOOT, i have TES5edit and already cleaned what needed to be cleaned, i have all the essential things to run the game and avoid problems and stuff  (SKSE, Crash Fixes, Bug Fixes, USLEEP, FNIS for animations, etc.).

 

 

So, It says that Crash Fixes "fixes" the string problem but make the save files not able to get loaded at the SaveTool.exe (Save Script Cleaner).  But i have Crash Fixes 12 since the BEGINNING, and like i said, i was able to use it on my save just fine.

 

 

And now when i try to load my save on ReSaver.exe from Skyrim Tools i get this error (attached file).

 

I had SexLab installed before but i uninstalled the right way and iirc i was even able to clean some orphan scripts from it using the SaveTool.exe

 

So, should i even bother with not being able to use SaveTool anymore or what?

 

I'm so fucking lost.

 

 

[jfraser]

My bet is that the key phrase in your post is "the program crashed when loading the specific save." Something got corrupted when it crashed. I have only one solution, and you won't like it.

[fekoll]

My bet is that the key phrase in your post is "the program crashed when loading the specific save." Something got corrupted when it crashed. I have only one solution, and you won't like it.

 

 

So, what do i need to do? People with 250 mods and ENB and ridiculously heavy mods don't have problems and i have, fucking hell.

 

 

Thanks for helping me.

[jfraser]

 

My bet is that the key phrase in your post is "the program crashed when loading the specific save." Something got corrupted when it crashed. I have only one solution, and you won't like it.

 

So, what do i need to do? People with 250 mods and ENB and ridiculously heavy mods don't have problems and i have, fucking hell.

 

 

Thanks for helping me.

sorry, shouldn't have left that a cliffhanger. I figured you would be able to guess.

 

Say goodbye to that save and start a new game.

 

Also, save cleansers only do so much. The only truly clean game is one that has not had mods added or subtracted after it has begun. And even if you never touch your load order after you start a game, mods add a variable of instability to Skyrim that can never be completely eradicated. I run a relatively modest 185 mods, I have all the stabilizers, I always start a new game if I even update a small mod, and I still have to coc to qasmoke before loading any save and get ctd's from time to time. Save often.

[fekoll]

 

 

My bet is that the key phrase in your post is "the program crashed when loading the specific save." Something got corrupted when it crashed. I have only one solution, and you won't like it.

 

So, what do i need to do? People with 250 mods and ENB and ridiculously heavy mods don't have problems and i have, fucking hell.

 

 

Thanks for helping me.

sorry, shouldn't have left that a cliffhanger. I figured you would be able to guess.

 

Say goodbye to that save and start a new game.

 

Also, save cleansers only do so much. The only truly clean game is one that has not had mods added or subtracted after it has begun. And even if you never touch your load order after you start a game, mods add a variable of instability to Skyrim that can never be completely eradicated. I run a relatively modest 185 mods, I have all the stabilizers, I always start a new game if I even update a small mod, and I still have to coc to qasmoke before loading any save and get ctd's from time to time. Save often.

 

 

 

But, what is the problem exactly? It is the string bug thing?

 

 

I have another save file (manual save) that is kinda old (some 3 or 4 quests to do and some items to get/craft) and this save file can be loaded on the SaveTool and on ReSaver just fine. But now i have more mods installed than befofe (like 5 or 6 iirc but mostly are weapons).

 

Do i load this one and continue from there?

 

Thanks again.

[fekoll]

Choosing a mod directory.

Choosing a savegame.

================

Process scripts.

Total bytes 0, total scripts 0.

Reading Mod scripts.

Required 28,3 ms to read 0 mods.

Sorting strings.

Remapping strings: made identity map.

Required 55,4 ms to analyse 0 scripts over 0 mods.

================

Reading from savegame file "C:\Users\MVM\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Saves\Save 283 - Lys  Jorrvaskr  40.19.44.ess".

Reading savegame.

Detected a new character encoding: UTF-8

Fatal error.

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException

 

 

 

This is what i get from this save file when choosing "Analyze a savefile" with ReStringer from Skyrim Tools.

[ladyaira]

bashed patch is the issue

[jfraser]

I think something that can't be reached by the tools available to anyone outside Bethseda got corrupted when the cleaner crashed. I'm not versed enough in coding to make any kind of educated guess at the actual cause. Bottom line, I don't think that save can be...well, saved. But others may know better.

 

You can use the other old save, and it will probably be fine, but it won't be as stable as a new game.

bashed patch is the issue

or it could be the bashed patch.

[yatol]

 

 

My bet is that the key phrase in your post is "the program crashed when loading the specific save." Something got corrupted when it crashed. I have only one solution, and you won't like it.

 

So, what do i need to do? People with 250 mods and ENB and ridiculously heavy mods don't have problems and i have, fucking hell.

 

 

Thanks for helping me.

sorry, shouldn't have left that a cliffhanger. I figured you would be able to guess.

 

Say goodbye to that save and start a new game.

 

 

how is starting a new game supposed to fix anything?

 

savegamecleaner wasn't able to load enderal saves, until i saw that

you need a newer version because of crash fixes...

 

and savegamecleaner that's to check the state of your save, you shouldn't mess with it if you don't know what you are doing (clicking of some buttons because someone said to do it, that's not knowing what you are doing)

[jfraser]

 

 

 

My bet is that the key phrase in your post is "the program crashed when loading the specific save." Something got corrupted when it crashed. I have only one solution, and you won't like it.

So, what do i need to do? People with 250 mods and ENB and ridiculously heavy mods don't have problems and i have, fucking hell.

 

 

Thanks for helping me.

sorry, shouldn't have left that a cliffhanger. I figured you would be able to guess.

 

Say goodbye to that save and start a new game.

how is starting a new game supposed to fix anything?

 

savegamecleaner wasn't able to load enderal saves, until i saw that

you need a newer version because of crash fixes...

 

and savegamecleaner that's to check the state of your save, you shouldn't mess with it if you don't know what you are doing (clicking of some buttons because someone said to do it, that's not knowing what you are doing)

it would fix the ability to play the game. My point is that the save seemed unfixable. But as I said, others may know better.

[fekoll]

bashed patch is the issue

 

What do you mean? I need to remove it from my LO?

[yatol]

 

it would fix the ability to play the game. My point is that the save seemed unfixable. But as I said, others may know better.

 

 

what make you think there's something to fix in his saves?

 

it's better if he don't mess with it anyway

 

deleting or keeping orphan scripts doesn't change anything, there's nothing that load those leftovers

while deleting broken scripts can break stuff that was using them

you check with savegamecleaner to avoid that when you try a mod (you just get rid of it instead of trying to repair the damages if the mod is a mess)

[fekoll]

 

 

 

My bet is that the key phrase in your post is "the program crashed when loading the specific save." Something got corrupted when it crashed. I have only one solution, and you won't like it.

 

So, what do i need to do? People with 250 mods and ENB and ridiculously heavy mods don't have problems and i have, fucking hell.

 

 

Thanks for helping me.

sorry, shouldn't have left that a cliffhanger. I figured you would be able to guess.

 

Say goodbye to that save and start a new game.

 

 

how is starting a new game supposed to fix anything?

 

savegamecleaner wasn't able to load enderal saves, until i saw that

you need a newer version because of crash fixes...

 

and savegamecleaner that's to check the state of your save, you shouldn't mess with it if you don't know what you are doing (clicking of some buttons because someone said to do it, that's not knowing what you are doing)

 

 

 

Did you even bothered to read my post?

 

I used the Script cleaner because of orphan scripts, i've read what it does and when you should use, just like every single mod i have.

 

It's not my fault if Skyrim is a fucking mess of a game that needs 5 programs to clean this and that a fuckton of patches from the community to fix bugs and crashes because Bethesda it's too fucking lazy to do a good job.

[jfraser]

 

 

 

it would fix the ability to play the game. My point is that the save seemed unfixable. But as I said, others may know better.

what make you think there's something to fix in his saves?

 

it's better if he don't mess with it anyway

 

deleting or keeping orphan scripts doesn't change anything, there's nothing that load those leftovers

while deleting broken scripts can break stuff that was using them

you check with savegamecleaner to avoid that when you try a mod (you just get rid of it instead of trying to repair the damages if the mod is a mess)

did I read something wrong? My understanding is that the issue is that his save will no longer load. So it's the save that we're trying to fix. Correct me if that's incorrect, Fekoll.

[fekoll]

 

 

 

 

it would fix the ability to play the game. My point is that the save seemed unfixable. But as I said, others may know better.

what make you think there's something to fix in his saves?

 

it's better if he don't mess with it anyway

 

deleting or keeping orphan scripts doesn't change anything, there's nothing that load those leftovers

while deleting broken scripts can break stuff that was using them

you check with savegamecleaner to avoid that when you try a mod (you just get rid of it instead of trying to repair the damages if the mod is a mess)

did I read something wrong? My understanding is that the issue is that his save will no longer load. So it's the save that we're trying to fix. Correct me if that's incorrect, Fekoll.

 

 

 

My save doesn't load on SaveTool or ReSave, but it loads for me to play the game.

[yatol]

 

Did you even bothered to read my post?

 

 

didn't i told to the one above your problem wasn't fixing the save, but checking it with savegamecleaner?

 

and i told you to download the last version of savegamecleaner, you did it?

also said to not mess with your save if there's no reason to do it

 

orphan scripts are leftovers from removed mods

those removed mods are no longer there to load those scripts

deleting them don't change anything in game, didn't you read that?

 

i don't trust enought that thing to let it mess with my saves to save 10-50 ko

[jfraser]

 

My save doesn't load on SaveTool or ReSave, but it loads for me to play the game.

then I DID misunderstand the issue, and apologies to both. If the save works in the game, why do you care if it doesn't load in the script cleaner?

[Vrosh]

I think He cares if it doesn't load in save game tool, because he can delete those bloated scripts from save file which tends to increase your save.ess size to over unheard amount of Mbs for a Skyrim save in active scripts section, I normally have those problems - don't know maybe its runtime player body changes or something else. It often gets solved after disabling xpmse in LO I would load it again if I need it though.

So, IMO solution would be appreciated. 

BTW I noticed this post is from 2016 did you ever found the solution to your problem? if so please share.

[GenioMaestro]

The problem related is based in Crash Fixes, String Table Bug and ReSaver.

 

Crash Fixes change the file format of the savefile ONLY when the String Table Bug happend. If the String Table Bug is NOT present not change any and the savegame can be procesed by the old SaveGameScripCleaner. 

If the String Table Bug IS PRESENT and you remove mods and clean your save with ReSaver you can get a new savegame that can be procesed by the old SaveGameScripCleaner. 

 

Sometimes the savegame go corrupt, the game can't read it, is un-usable and the tools fail when try read it. If this happend must forget it and use an older save. The strange point related 2 years ago is that the game read the save but the tools crash when try load it. This is not normal. Is your situation?

 

Your problem about bloated savegame is caused by the hability for Re-Scale Weapons in XPMSE. Try un-install XPMSE and re-install it disabling the Weapon Scale functionality. Some players in nexus say that disable the Cloack speel in the MCM of xpmse solve the problem.

This two options not work for me and sometimes my savegame up from 20mb to 40mb and have hundreds of XpmseWeaponScale in ActiveScripts, it can up to 500, 700, 800.. give me a lot of problems, slow play, frame drops, dumps in log...

The only solution for me is MANUALY delete the scrip and clean the save. You can try.

Of course, use this option as last resort, is not recomended manually touch the files, must be made with your manager.

The scripts re-appear when re-install XPMSE. Have it present.