[mod] [Stellaris] EoS - Without Apparel Patch

[Princessity]

Oh! Speaking of which I was going to ask you if you have some of a Photoshop script that you use to convert clothes from the old body to the new one and back? But from the sound of it I guess you're doing it all by hand? Is it that complicated?

[Nessa]

The trouble was the action (or script) didn't quite put things into position. So I ended up just doing it by hand anyway. That was for girls though. Guys is so messy, it's got to be by hand.

If you're thinking about converting, I believe I got all the old existing girl outfits. Adjusting vanilla stuff sometimes takes a little love but my template is pretty close. For most outfits it works. The only ones that had some issues were the slave wear.

 

Who knew it was going to be this much work?

[Nessa]

OOOK, I'm as done as I'm going to get. Looks like we maxed out at 88 outfits for guys. A lot more than the previous body. Not too bad...  at least until you get a look at them.   

 

 

 

 

Not terribly happy with pheno 2 and 3. (I mostly pictured the glorious pheno 1. Yum! ) I was going to try and make some faces like I did for girls but I think if I have to look at one more portrait file I'm going scream and jump off the nearest pier. (Not necessarily in that order. )

 

I'll do a little bit of testing in game to make sure there aren't errors, and get this loaded up.

 

Drow....  might take a few days for me to migrate over. I'm feeling it's time for a break. (Likely to make ships! )

[Railgunner2160]

Not exactly sure what you mean by phenotype's 2 & 3 being mediocre. Sure they're not super glam faced, but it's not all that bad. Given the right clothes combos they actually look fairly nice! You've got your glam young men phenotype, then your older distinguished phenotypes, maybe it's just me but I think that is quite acceptable!

 

(Not sure why but I keep getting a romulan senator vibe from some of those combos. Not that that's is a bad thing mind you...)

[idonotlikeusernames]

Drow....  might take a few days for me to migrate over. I'm feeling it's time for a break. (Likely to make ships! )

 

Wow, some of those new outfits really do look nice and don't worry while Drow/Dark-Elves are my fave I'm definitely going to have fun with the new High Elves too.

 

@Railgunner as soon as the guy who made the Romolan ships updates them you bet I'm going to make a custom Elven empire using the Romulan ship types. Too bad we've probably got to wait a couple more dlc's before the devs put in a real cloaking device.

[Nessa]

Yeah one of the new hairstyles is vulcan. And it would seem I must have had vulcan/romulans on the brain too when I was doing the screenshot. That shirt could be viewed as very romulan.  I guess it fits though. Vulcans and Romulans are elves. In space.  

 

Well if everybody's OK with pheno's 2 and 3 that's fine. Sometimes when I do stuff myself I end up hating it for no other reason than I did it.

[idonotlikeusernames]

Like the other poster said pheno's 2-3 are for the distinguished elders while number 1 is for their super-cute young sons.

[Railgunner2160]

Yeah one of the new hairstyles is vulcan. And it would seem I must have had vulcan/romulans on the brain too when I was doing the screenshot. That shirt could be viewed as very romulan.  I guess it fits though. Vulcans and Romulans are elves. In space. 

 

Well if everybody's OK with pheno's 2 and 3 that's fine. Sometimes when I do stuff myself I end up hating it for no other reason than I did it.

 

Had that problem with some of my pottery in high school, my brother took a pestle (part of a mortar & pestle set I'd made for grinding spices & as practice with molding clay into unorthodox shapes.) I'd made and passed it off as a dildo. EXTREMELY EMBARRASSING, especially since he named me explicitly as it's creator. Let's just say after being asked to the principle's office to explain my role in my brothers antics I told them to destroy it, smash it, & toss the pieces into the garbage.

 

I was so embarrassed I literally never wanted to see it again! So I know how you feel....

[Princessity]

The trouble was the action (or script) didn't quite put things into position. So I ended up just doing it by hand anyway. That was for girls though. Guys is so messy, it's got to be by hand.

If you're thinking about converting, I believe I got all the old existing girl outfits. Adjusting vanilla stuff sometimes takes a little love but my template is pretty close. For most outfits it works. The only ones that had some issues were the slave wear.

 

Who knew it was going to be this much work?

Actually I'm thinking more of converting some of the new stuff back to the old body and I was thinking if you had a script or something I could reverse-engineer it so it would convert things the other way

 

OOOK, I'm as done as I'm going to get. Looks like we maxed out at 88 outfits for guys. A lot more than the previous body. Not too bad...  at least until you get a look at them.   

 

 

ElfNew_MClothes1.jpgElfNew_MClothes2.jpgElfNew_MClothes3.jpg

 

 

Not terribly happy with pheno 2 and 3. (I mostly pictured the glorious pheno 1. Yum! ) I was going to try and make some faces like I did for girls but I think if I have to look at one more portrait file I'm going scream and jump off the nearest pier. (Not necessarily in that order. )

 

I'll do a little bit of testing in game to make sure there aren't errors, and get this loaded up.

 

Drow....  might take a few days for me to migrate over. I'm feeling it's time for a break. (Likely to make ships! )

I love them! I don't see anything wrong with the other phenos ^^

And squeeee! Ships! <3

 

 

Yeah one of the new hairstyles is vulcan. And it would seem I must have had vulcan/romulans on the brain too when I was doing the screenshot. That shirt could be viewed as very romulan.  I guess it fits though. Vulcans and Romulans are elves. In space. 

 

Well if everybody's OK with pheno's 2 and 3 that's fine. Sometimes when I do stuff myself I end up hating it for no other reason than I did it.

 

Had that problem with some of my pottery in high school, my brother took a pestle (part of a mortar & pestle set I'd made for grinding spices & as practice with molding clay into unorthodox shapes.) I'd made and passed it off as a dildo. EXTREMELY EMBARRASSING, especially since he named me explicitly as it's creator. Let's just say after being asked to the principle's office to explain my role in my brothers antics I told them to destroy it, smash it, & toss the pieces into the garbage.

 

I was so embarrassed I literally never wanted to see it again! So I know how you feel....

 

Oh gosh... That's awful! Did the pestle really look that ambiguous? XD

[Railgunner2160]

 

Yeah one of the new hairstyles is vulcan. And it would seem I must have had vulcan/romulans on the brain too when I was doing the screenshot. That shirt could be viewed as very romulan.  I guess it fits though. Vulcans and Romulans are elves. In space. 

 

Well if everybody's OK with pheno's 2 and 3 that's fine. Sometimes when I do stuff myself I end up hating it for no other reason than I did it.

 

Had that problem with some of my pottery in high school, my brother took a pestle (part of a mortar & pestle set I'd made for grinding spices & as practice with molding clay into unorthodox shapes.) I'd made and passed it off as a dildo. EXTREMELY EMBARRASSING, especially since he named me explicitly as it's creator. Let's just say after being asked to the principle's office to explain my role in my brothers antics I told them to destroy it, smash it, & toss the pieces into the garbage.

 

I was so embarrassed I literally never wanted to see it again! So I know how you feel....

 

Oh gosh... That's awful! Did the pestle really look that ambiguous? XD

 

 

Somewhat, I sort-of made it out of the day's leftover clay as an exercise in if I could make something that was thin enough to survive the kiln without exploding. Had to make it hollow so it was also a exercise in merging clay pieces together.

 

Didn't help I used my old memories of what a mortar & pestle looked like from Morrowind, it wound up with a bulb at the end that was going to be the grinding surface. Add to that my rough technique for joining (it had some rough edges near the seam from the tools I used to help join the pieces.) & the light scoring I did to make it grind better once it was baked it vaguely resembled something phallic shaped, but then again alot of things looked similar.

 

I didn't give it a second thought until my brother made the scene at school, & I know he did it on purpose since I'd already taken that particular piece home since it had been through the kiln and been glazed & whatnot. So he had to bring it to school himself, ugh not one of my fondest high-school memories.

[Nessa]

UPDATE!!!

 

OK, not quite it seems. I've tried 6 times to upload here and it borked every time. So in the meantime, the mirror at modbb should be working. (In a minute, it's uploading as I type.)

 

• Switched the guys over to slim.
• Upped the scale of all portraits slightly. Let me know what you think. There's only  a little bit of clipping on girls with the super big hair bun. Might be fun to have elves taller than humans though.

That pretty much marks the end of the portrait end of things for awhile. I'm happy with the amount of customization. Future additions might be more slave/savage gear. The big news moving forward is ships! I'm starting on those right away. I've got separate design ideas for the Drow. So we'll be seeing two distinct ship styles. Not just retextures on the same ships.

 

 

[Princessity]

Huh... that's strange. I mean LL has a 100MB limit on the size of a single upload but your archive is only 55 so that can't be it...

 

Anyways! Squeeeee! Time to launch Stellaris and end the day on an elfy note ^^

[Nessa]

It could be my end. I didn't have any issues updating the Drow earlier today. (Haha. So much for my "it might take a couple days". Turns out I wanted to start a new game -as Drow- this time. Hence, we have an update! )

[Prometeus5879]

The download isn't updated to 2.0. Maybe it's something with the server as I've also seen it with other mods.

[Nessa]

Yep, I was just trying to update it again and it failed. That makes try number 9!

 

Meantime, you can nab it here.

[Princessity]

That's so weird! Have you maybe tried emoving some of your old files? Maybe you hit some kind of cap? I'm not aware of any but maybe?

 

If you can't get it uploaded no matter what you do you may like to message Ashal, maybe he could help

[Nessa]

I'm pretty sure it's my end this time. The net has been going wacky all day. Though... I can upload to moddb just fine. If it keeps failing I'll go whine to Ashal. That's always fun! (For me anyway! )

 

EDIT: Hmm, that makes 10 times. I'll try again tomorrow, if that still fails. Looks like I get to bug Ashal! 

[Princessity]

Can you see screenshots on your download page? I can only see like 3 and the rest are all missing picture thingies. Maybe there is something weird going on with the site?

[Nessa]

Yes, I think... something happened. Most of the screenies are zonked now. It might have something to do with why I can't seem to upload. But I'm going to give it another shot. I think if this one gives me the same error, it's time to go bug Ashal.

[Prometeus5879]

Thanks for the extrnal link. I think LL is a bit messed up right now. Other modders also have problems uploading.

[Nessa]

OK so.....  I can't design ships anymore I guess. I just got done with a huge battle I should have won! A 15k fleet vs a 10k fleet. My shields, twice as tough. My weapons, 2 levels above. My admiral, 5 star... vs 2. Plenty of torpedo corvettes on my end, plenty of interceptors. Tons of destroyers. I had battleships and the other guy had none. WHY DID I JUST LOSE!?

 

Well... it's a good excuse to get to work on the new corvettes anyway.

[Princessity]

OK so.....  I can't design ships anymore I guess. I just got done with a huge battle I should have won! A 15k fleet vs a 10k fleet. My shields, twice as tough. My weapons, 2 levels above. My admiral, 5 star... vs 2. Plenty of torpedo corvettes on my end, plenty of interceptors. Tons of destroyers. I had battleships and the other guy had none. WHY DID I JUST LOSE!?

 

Well... it's a good excuse to get to work on the new corvettes anyway.

 

Did you have shield capacitors? ^^ I noticed they make like a world of difference! Also because shields are so strong, a combination of disruptors/railguns (a matter of what's available to you at the time) and plasma weapons is the most reliable setup I've come up with so far. Torpedoes are actually not as effective as they should be because they don't have any armour penetration and later in the game all the big ships can easily reach like 80%ish damage reduction so kinetic torpedoes barely scratch their hull at that point. If you have access to energy torpedoes (neutron and proton I think?) I feel they're more effective overall.

 

The bulk of my fleet consists of cruisers and corvettes, all equipped with energy torpedoes and plasma throwers. I also have destroyers with flak cannons (they count as both offensive weapons and point defence, amazing against corvettes!) and gauss guns, and in the back battleships with (currently at least) Arc Emitters and large artillery guns in every other slot. I also have a design with Giga Cannons and carrier hangars but I've been slowly phasing them out. Bombers don't seem to be as effective anymore as they were in the midgame. And while I love giant cannons of death, I don't think they actually... hit their target most of the time XD I see them constantly swooshing past enemy ships as if my weapons crew were fresh out of Stormtrooper Academy...

 

If you can ever get your hands on Arc Emitters, put them on all your battleships immediately. They have 100% penetration on both shields and armour which on top of 100% accuracy... probably puts them first in line to get nerfed in the next balance pass XD

[Nessa]

I did notice during some testing that lances are actually missing a good portion of the time. I love the look but if they can't hit anything.....

 

Looks like I'm going to have to start giving up on laser weapons. So railguns and arc emitters are good now. And actually... that's making sense. The fleet I went up against had kinetic weapons. But they were several technology levels below mine.   I'm not usually one to whine about balance but.... DAMN.

[Nessa]

Oh yeah, had an idea about clothing. Right now it's a disorganized mess. (Meaning, when picking your outfit, they aren't all grouped together.)

 

I think if I can come up with some trigger that always fails, I can list out all the clothes in order and THEN they'll be in order for the ruler window. While still only picking certain styles for various things.

[Princessity]

The thing with lasers is that they are actually really good against cruisers and battleships thanks to their armour penetration but... that requires them to punch through the shields first which can become a problem. I mean you can run an all-energy setup with disruptors and energy torpedoes to take care of the shields, but then you face the problem of those weapons being ridiculously overspecialised the other way XD They can cut through shields like butter... but then do nothing to the hull. So running all lasers quickly turns into a balancing act where half your guns are useless at any given time...

 

Kinetic weapons don't have this problem because even after their +shield damage no longer applies, it only constituted like 30% in the first place so what remains is still consistent, steady damage.

 

The only energy weapon that I'd say should be in every loadout is Plasma Cannons. They have lots of hull penetration and longer range than most lasers so they're actually a perfect addition to railguns. In fact in the game I'm running now I think I'm going to put 1 gauss and 2 plasma cannons on my interceptor corvettes and see if they can deal better with the Spiritualist Fallen who just woke up and started declaring wars on everyone around them... And apparently when they awaken they get access to Psi-Drives and Titans immediately so the tech advantage I thought I had suddenly evaporated, ouchies! XD

 

 

 

And oh! I noticed the same issue with the asari mod, I always have to adjust the pregenerated empires every time I add or remove stuff, so annoying!

But I didn't even think of doing what you just described... it sounds like ti should be possible! Please let me know if it works! I may need to try it too ^^