DirtyDancing Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 Hey guys I've been having a problem with whiterun lately. for some reason when i first enter through the gate it takes quite a bit to load and then when i'm finally it kinda tends to lag. also when i enter belethors shop i get an infinite loading screen. so far whiterun is the only city that this problem happens in i've been to Solitude and i get no problem. This is my load order if it helps ------------------------------------------ 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 9 9 SkyMoMod.esm 10 a FM - HaafingarHall.esm 11 b hdtHighHeel.esm 12 c SexLab.esm 13 d RSkyrimChildren.esm 14 e EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 15 f ELFX - Exteriors.esp 16 10 RealisticRoomRental.esp 17 11 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 18 12 GM_NewNobleHDFurnitureAndClutter_AllInOne.esp 19 13 ELFXEnhancer.esp 20 14 AwpSylvanas.esp 21 15 Duel - Combat Realism.esp 22 16 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp 23 17 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 24 18 DSerHorsesRevamped.esp 25 19 RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp 26 1a CombatFatigue.esp 27 1b zzLSAR.esp 28 1c SkyUI.esp 29 1d Solstheim Music in Skyrim.esp 30 1e RaceMenu.esp 31 1f RaceMenuPlugin.esp 32 20 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 33 21 KS Hairdo's.esp 34 22 FNIS.esp 35 23 titkit.esp 36 24 Dr_Bandolier.esp 37 25 LeatherBackpackDarkBrown-100.esp 38 26 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 39 27 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp 40 28 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp 41 29 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 42 2a NoHealthRegen.esp 43 2b The Ordinary Women.esp 44 2c Valerica.esp 45 2d Bijin Wives.esp 46 2e aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 47 2f AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp 48 30 Differently Ebony.esp 49 31 Morrowind Soul Gems.esp 50 32 DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp 51 33 ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp 52 34 ELFX - Weathers.esp 53 35 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 54 36 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp 55 37 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 56 38 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 57 39 Colorful_Magic.esp 58 3a MrBs-UniqueLoot.esp 59 3b RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp 60 3c SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 61 3d Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp 62 3e EliRedguardHouse.esp 63 3f KNM_Mour.esp 64 40 FM - HHall Exterior.esp 65 41 Follower Neisa.esp 66 42 Yami.esp 67 43 LiFEv1.1.esp 68 44 Follower Onean.esp 69 45 Follower Neisa Wardrobe.esp 70 46 Ariente Follower.esp 71 47 Overknee_Beatrice.esp 72 48 DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp 73 49 Bijin NPCs.esp 74 4a Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 75 4b SoapRetex_BIS.esp 76 4c Scent of Sex.esp 77 4d RSChildren - Complete.esp 78 4e SimplyKnock.esp 79 4f Vivid Weathers.esp 80 50 RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp 81 51 TrueEyes.esp 82 52 SoundsOfBarenziah.esp 83 53 dD-DG-DB-MonsterMod EBT Patch v4.esp 84 54 GoToBed.esp 85 55 KS Jewelry.esp 86 56 TradeBarter.esp 87 57 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp 88 58 Luna_GoV.esp 89 59 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp 90 5a PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp 91 5b AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 92 5c Nerida.esp 93 5d Bijin Warmaidens.esp 94 5e Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp 95 5f iNeed.esp 96 60 DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp 97 61 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp 98 62 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 99 63 FM - UNP Merchants.esp 100 64 Potions.esp 101 65 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp 102 66 Serana.esp 103 67 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp 104 68 XPMSE.esp 105 69 Realistic HD Beverages.esp 106 6a BodyChange.esp 107 6b AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp 108 6c Dual Sheath Redux.esp 109 6d Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 110 6e Pizza_part1.esp 111 6f RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp 112 70 UIExtensions.esp 113 71 AddItemMenu2.esp 114 72 Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp 115 73 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 116 74 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 117 75 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
Spurdo Spärde Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 Do you have it? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/? Do you use ENB?
Tefajo Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 Check if you properly installed SKSE and set your SKSE ini. SKSE contains both memory patch and safety load, tho installing the mod provided by timiko should work aswell
DirtyDancing Posted June 22, 2016 Author Posted June 22, 2016 Do you have it? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/? Do you use ENB? Yes i have that mod and i don't have enb installed atm. Check if you properly installed SKSE and set your SKSE ini. SKSE contains both memory patch and safety load, tho installing the mod provided by timiko should work aswelI I'm pretty sure it's installed correctly otherwise my mods wouldn't work or give me notification saying so. but just incase how would i know if its installed correctly?
Tefajo Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 I'm pretty sure it's installed correctly otherwise my mods wouldn't work or give me notification saying so. but just incase how would i know if its installed correctly? This is a common misunderstanding. Installing SKSE might let your mods run, but this doesnt mean that the memory patch is working. I can not stress enough how many ppl came here thinking that they had skse memory patch runing (because their mods requiring SKSE were working) and found out otherwise. You need to check if you have SKSE.ini created and properly set, then run a test with memory block http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50471/? If you dont know how to run the test or need help see this video. After you run the test, if you do not crash when reaching block 256, we can move on.
DirtyDancing Posted June 22, 2016 Author Posted June 22, 2016 I'm pretty sure it's installed correctly otherwise my mods wouldn't work or give me notification saying so. but just incase how would i know if its installed correctly? This is a common misunderstanding. Installing SKSE might let your mods run, but this doesnt mean that the memory patch is working. I can not stress enough how many ppl came here thinking that they had skse memory patch runing (because their mods requiring SKSE were working) and found out otherwise. You need to check if you have SKSE.ini created and properly set, then run a test with memory block http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50471/? If you dont know how to run the test or need help see this video. After you run the test, if you do not crash when reaching block 256, we can move on. Can i use ssme together with memory block? oh and my skse did not come with skse.ini This is what my memory block log picked up logging of blocks enabled logging max values only Timer disabled Block1 Block2 512MB 256MB 85 8 85 8 85 9 85 10 85 11 85 12 85 13 85 14 85 15 85 16 85 17 85 18 85 19 85 20 85 21 85 22 85 23 85 24 85 25 85 26 85 27 85 28 85 29 85 30 85 31 85 32 85 33 85 34 85 35 85 36 85 37 85 38 85 39 85 40 85 41 85 42 85 43 85 44 85 45 85 46 85 47 85 48 85 49 85 50 85 51 85 52 85 53 85 54 85 55 85 56 85 57 85 58 85 59 85 60 85 61 85 62 85 63 85 64 85 65 85 66 85 67 85 68 85 69 85 70 85 71 85 72 85 73 85 74 85 75 85 76 85 77 85 78 85 79 85 80 85 81 85 82 85 83 85 84 85 85 85 86 85 87 85 88 85 89 85 90 85 91 85 92 85 93 85 94 85 95 85 96 85 97 85 98 85 99 85 100 85 101 85 102 85 103 85 104 85 105 85 106 85 107 85 108 85 109 85 110 85 111 85 112 85 113 85 114 85 115 85 116 85 117 85 118 87 118 95 118 111 118 159 118 159 119 159 120 159 121 159 122 159 123 159 124 159 125 159 126 160 126 161 126 162 126 163 126 164 126 165 126 166 126 167 126 168 126 169 126 170 126 171 126 172 126 173 126 174 126 175 126 176 126 177 126 178 126 179 126 180 126 181 126 182 126 183 126 184 126 185 126 186 126 187 126 188 126 189 126 190 126 194 126 195 126 196 126 197 126 198 126 199 126 199 127 200 127 200 128 201 128 202 128 223 128 223 129 223 130 232 130 254 130 296 130 296 131 296 132 296 133 296 134 296 135
Tefajo Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 you can use ssme if you want. Just so you know SKSE does what ssme does, you just need to create / set the SKSE.ini, but its fine anyway SSME is doing its work (you passed the 256mb threshold with no problem) Do you still get infite load screens while using ssme?
DirtyDancing Posted June 24, 2016 Author Posted June 24, 2016 you can use ssme if you want. Just so you know SKSE does what ssme does, you just need to create / set the SKSE.ini, but its fine anyway SSME is doing its work (you passed the 256mb threshold with no problem) Do you still get infite load screens while using ssme? what do i type into the skse.ini?
Tefajo Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 you can use ssme if you want. Just so you know SKSE does what ssme does, you just need to create / set the SKSE.ini, but its fine anyway SSME is doing its work (you passed the 256mb threshold with no problem) Do you still get infite load screens while using ssme? what do i type into the skse.ini? Here, Open notepad, copy paste and save it as SKSE.ini (make sure it has the .ini ending and not .txt) [General] EnableDiagnostics=1 ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 [Display] iTintTextureResolution=2048 [Memory] defaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768 scrapHeapSizeMB=256 a ) If you installed SKSE with mod organizer: Place the SKSE.ini inside the folder ...\mod organizer\mods\<name you gave it>\data\SKSE b ) If you installed SKSE directly into the game folder or with NMM place it in ...\Skyrim\Data\SKSE You still didnt answer the question though, - Do you still get infinite load screens while using ssme / SKSE (once you set the ini file) ?
DirtyDancing Posted June 24, 2016 Author Posted June 24, 2016 you can use ssme if you want. Just so you know SKSE does what ssme does, you just need to create / set the SKSE.ini, but its fine anyway SSME is doing its work (you passed the 256mb threshold with no problem) Do you still get infite load screens while using ssme? what do i type into the skse.ini? Here, Open notepad, copy paste and save it as SKSE.ini (make sure it has the .ini ending and not .txt) [General] EnableDiagnostics=1 ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 [Display] iTintTextureResolution=2048 [Memory] defaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768 scrapHeapSizeMB=256 a ) If you installed SKSE with mod organizer: Place the SKSE.ini inside the folder ...\mod organizer\mods\<name you gave it>\data\SKSE b ) If you installed SKSE directly into the game folder or with NMM place it in ...\Skyrim\Data\SKSE You still didnt answer the question though, - Do you still get infinite load screens while using ssme / SKSE (once you set the ini file) ? I still had the infinite loading screen with ssme, but ever since i made the skse.ini and copied what you put above it now works, whiterun now loads faster and i don't lag while in the city. however i am crashing now in whiterun. i don't see it as much as a problem i can just start new or wait in a safe cell then comeback.
Tefajo Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 Can you provide the papyrus.log from the moment you crash?
DirtyDancing Posted June 24, 2016 Author Posted June 24, 2016 Can you provide the papyrus.log from the moment you crash? where would i find papyrus.log?
Tefajo Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 Can you provide the papyrus.log from the moment you crash? where would i find papyrus.log? In C:\Users\<username>\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Logs\Script Dont post just any, play the game first, make the CTD and then upload papyrus0.log
CGi Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 The last time i had an iLS, it was caused by XPMSE. Not because it's errornous, but due to how it works, how many scripts run on load and how many NPCs there are, so the engine can fail to load the skeleton correctly.Using the lastest Crash Fixes, it shows that error and quits the game. While most other crashes and iLS have been solved using Crash Fixes.So i recommend you install it and always make sure to use the latest verion AND FOLLOW THE iNSTRUCTIONS in the OP, because it's pretty sofisticated.
DirtyDancing Posted June 26, 2016 Author Posted June 26, 2016 The thing i don't understand is why is it only happening in whiterun. i have no mod that retexures whiterun and me being out doors or any other city's such as solitude doesnt lag or gives me infinite load screens. how do i upload a file? nvm im an idiot. i had to close the game because of an ILS while entering the bannered mare. Papyrus.0.log
Tefajo Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 The thing i don't understand is why is it only happening in whiterun. i have no mod that retexures whiterun and me being out doors or any other city's such as solitude doesnt lag or gives me infinite load screens. how do i upload a file? nvm im an idiot. i had to close the game because of an ILS while entering the bannered mare. Papyrus.0.log The last seconds of your papyrus shows some activity with SOS, XPMSE and FNIS. Some of the lines shows errors (sometimes its normal, can't tell if its your case) - There is also an error on a "Live Another Life" script but i couldnt find a match in the AFK forums <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [ARTHLALRumorsOfWarQuest (7407A334)].arth_lal_rumorsofwarscript.ToggleOCSGateTrigger() - "ARTH_LAL_RumorsOfWarScript.psc" Line 81 [ARTHLALWhiterunGuardConfrontationQuest (7429847F)].arth_qf_lalwhiterunguard_0529847f.Fragment_0() - "ARTH_QF_LALWhiterunGuard_0529847F.psc" Line 23 It might be nothing, like the mod checking if you have a specific mod installed, but If the whiterun problem persists you might have to ask either in nexus LAL page or in AFK forums about this error, since Virtual Machine gets frozen right after this error - About this FNIS error Error: (0001A67C): cannot fetch variable named FNISaa_2hweqp of type int, returning 0. stack: [ (0001A67C)].WIDeadBodyCleanupScript.GetAnimationVariableInt() - "<native>" Line ? [None].XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.GetAnimVar() - "XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.psc" Line 1664 [None].XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.SaveFNISData() - "XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.psc" Line 1670 [None].XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.SaveFNISaas() - "XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.psc" Line 615 [None].XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.CleanupFNISaa() - "XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.psc" Line 589 [None].XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.CleanupAll() - "XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.psc" Line 513 [None].XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.OnEffectFinish() - "XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.psc" Line 220 Is there a chance you installed the wrong options either in XPMSE or FNIS? You are using DSR and i see that mod indicates as required an old xp32 skeleton http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26800 . I am asuming this is wrong but never got updated Also, just in case take a look at this http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64647/? May be you are missing something In any case, please try the following: - Reinstall XPMSE using all default option of the installer. Make sure you are using this version http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/68000/? - Once reinstalled run FNIS again and tick on the Gender and Arm fix boxes (first two options) before generating the files. - I am asuming you use mod organizer. On the left panel of MO make sure XPMSE is bellow almost everything so it does not get overwritten. - Check you have the latest version of USLEEP and LAL
DirtyDancing Posted July 13, 2016 Author Posted July 13, 2016 Guys i think i found the culprit for my case. I disabled Neisa, Onean and enhanced blood texture mod, now whiterun doesn't stutter and i cant enter and exit belthors shop at a record speed. it take 3 seconds to load the shop and 3 seconds to load up whiterun when i exit the shop. idk how those mods affect whiterun so much.
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