thesapien Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 Gotta say, I really like the way magic and fantasy elements are often met with skepticism by the characters. That part is cool. What I'm worried about though is that magic will still be like magic from other fiction. I just want a "fictional" story where magic and science and natural studies aren't treated as completely separate. Personally, I don't see the difference in real life and see such terms as merely fad.
d2vis Posted May 31, 2012 Author Posted May 31, 2012 Hey guys its confirmed that the season finale (next episode) is going to be 70 minutes long! Also did anyone enjoy the song at the end? Btw don't look up this song if you don't want to encounter spoilers [video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyWtfMvipOE
FusRoDah Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Hey guys its confirmed that the season finale (next episode) is going to be 70 minutes long! Also did anyone enjoy the song at the end? Btw don't look up this song if you don't want to encounter spoilers [video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyWtfMvipOE I did. Downloaded Immidiatly!
GrinningDog Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Just finished watching the show... it's going to be a long winter til season 3. Also... i knew Hodor had it in him, lol
Guest GingerTom Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 I didn't enjoy season 2 as much as season 1--but I do realize that the first season of anything is always new and different. I just don't feel that the writing was as good in season 2--to me it sort of went around in circles and ended up nowhere. Just my opinion.
thesapien Posted June 7, 2012 Posted June 7, 2012 For me, it was the last episode that really soured it all after making me angry and got me reflecting on the series as a whole in a more negative light. It felt like a rude awaking after the previous episode. The pace is painfully slow, too much lolligagging. I know more about certain characters and plots then I ever wanted to know. It's like it teases us with just a little of the best parts and then fills the rest with stuff you have to suffer through. So I get one, two, maybe three (if I'm lucky) scenes per episode that I enjoyed watching. Sansa Stark was supposed to had run off with Dog! Why is she still with the Lannisters? Did I miss something? That would had been a cool story to follow. Cersie Lannister attempting to kill Tyrion Lannister during the siege is confusing to me. I get maybe she blames him for her mother's death, but I don't understand her over-reaction to having a daughter married off since it's so expected. Backing up, I never got how Tyrion alone could arrange it without the King or the King's mother having a say, anyway. Plus, whose precious daughter would had lived even had the city fallen? Also, I really thought Cersie and Tyrion kind of bonded during one scene a few episodes back. So I was already really confused when she tried to hurt him by capturing his (wrong) love interest.
Daguy Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 I read up, or more like skimmed, the books after season 2 because I had a bad feeling. It turns out I was right. I'm probobly done with GoT, for the same reasons thesapien states above. The story goes the least interesting drections, the pace is stupidly slow due to the amount of POV characters, and i'll add a few complaints of my own. All the best (there are no spoilers there, as its subjective) and most interesting characters die and don't get replaced by anyone equally interesting, and I think worst of all I find Martin's writing style long-winded and dry. I know many people love the books but honestly (and it may have just been Martin's style) the rest of the story didn't grip me. The first Book/Season started with so much promise, but just serves to remind me why no fantasy author has topped Lord of the Rings yet in my view. I'll probobly catch GoT if its on TV, but its sadly not (beyond Season 1) the gritty and sexual fantasy series to beat all fantasy that I was hoping it might become.
thesapien Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 Oh, good, that makes three of us thinking pretty much the same. I almost didn't say anything until I saw GingerTom's post because, before this season's last episode, we all seemed to be digging it. I certainly was into it. But this last one was so painful to watch as one scene after another things went wrong or nowhere at all. It's psychological torture! Another thing: I'm sick of the two-faced, sly talking where characters use indirect speech as if it makes them sound politically intelligent. It just ends up taking ten minutes to say what could had been communicated in one sentence. They are NEVER actually fooling anyone, nor ever seem to intend to fool anyone. Too much beating around the bush. They could really use fast-travel, too, lol, for all those characters just walking and updating us on their every pass.
Guest GingerTom Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 thesapien said: I almost didn't say anything until I saw GingerTom's post I always tell it like I see it.
Guest GingerTom Posted June 15, 2012 Posted June 15, 2012 "HBO sorry over 'George Bush' head in Game of Thrones The makers of Game of Thrones have apologised for a decapitated head resembling George W Bush that appeared in the first series." And the problem with that was??? HBO said it was "deeply dismayed" about the head's likeness to the former US president. It appears in a scene where King Joffrey shows Sansa Stark her father's head on a spike. Show creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss also put out a statement apologising for any offence caused. They explained that the show used many fake body parts, many which were rented out. "After the scene was already shot, someone pointed out that one of the heads looked like George W. Bush. "In the DVD commentary, we mentioned this, though we should not have. "We meant no disrespect to the former President and apologize if anything we said or did suggested otherwise." HBO's statement also described the matter as "unacceptable, disrespectful and in very bad taste". "We made this clear to the executive producers of the series who apologized immediately for this inadvertent careless mistake. "We are sorry this happened and will have it removed from any future DVD production." The head appears in profile in the final episode of the first series. In the DVD commentary to the show, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss mention its apparent likeness to George W Bush. However they tell viewers of the fantasy series: "It's not a choice, it's not a political statement. We just had to use whatever head we had around." Game of Thrones, set in the fictional world of Westeros, is based on the A Song of Ice and Fire novels by George R.R. Martin. It's been a big success for HBO - both in terms of viewers and box set sales - and was recently recommissioned for a third series. http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/18441163
thesapien Posted June 15, 2012 Posted June 15, 2012 They made a mistake by mentioning it in their DVD commentary. Bad move. So the best thing to do is just remove the head somehow. If they hadn't said anything about it themselves first, it would had just been a cool easter egg. Having it discovered by the audience and then denying that being their intention would had been good for business. They could had left in then. However, putting it out there like that, spelling it out themselves on their own DVD, is very bad for business. Many viewers wouldn't like it. I sometimes think GWB should be punished for war crimes, but I still wouldn't want a piece of work out there in public with my name on it depicting a living President or ex-prez who has been decapitated. One reason is that I wouldn't want to find myself being killed over it (and wouldn't put this beyond GW), and, two, I wouldn't want to further encourage the idea of killing Presidents in general. Holding that office already has enough danger of assassination. A third reason might be wanting to avoid the legality of it, though this one could easily spawn a discussion on whether or not such laws ought to exist. So I agree with HBO. Seems like the smart business move as well as the safest thing to do regarding their own lively hoods. ALTHOUGH... What if this was the goal in the beginning for HBO? Create controversy? It looks like they put it all out there and retracted it all without anyone knowing any of it until after the facts of the matter anyway.
FusRoDah Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 ALTHOUGH... What if this was the goal in the beginning for HBO? Create controversy? It looks like they put it all out there and retracted it all without anyone knowing any of it until after the facts of the matter anyway. Creating custom mannequins is Expensive, So they just used Random ones. Someone said 'LOL, This head looks kinda like bush!' And so they mentioned that. It had no Political Message whatsoever.
thesapien Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Yes, I read that part. Sounds believable, too. I'm just suggesting that in hindsight it also looks like a smart publicity stunt. Doubtful that HBO would be that risky and clever, tho. Another possibility is that someone actually got a hold of a GW head and used it without their bosses being any the wiser. Given that it looked like GW to someone who was on the set and not merely seeing it's silhouette suggest that it might had been a GW prop left from another production. If that's the case, I bet HBO will keep that secret in house and fire who ever did it without the public knowing. Just fun speculation.
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