GrimReaperCalls Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 So, yesterday when I loaded up Skyrim after having not played it for 8 days, I noticed an abnormally long loading time when loading up the save. While it would usually take about 20 seconds or so, this time I sat around waiting for well in excess of 3 minutes until it finally loaded up, with horrible frame rate (0-10 instead of 40-60) and stutters. I have a quite good graphics card (980Ti) so I shouldn't normally get these problems. Quite befuddled by this I went ahead and tried to pinpoint the problem. The natural response is to reverse any changes done to the install or settings. Thing is I hadn't touched the game or anything related to it since the last time it worked just fine. So, figuring it may be some mod that might be causing delayed problems, I made a new Mod Organizer profile without any mods so that I could start enabling them one-by-one to check what was going on. Nope, still long load times (although slightly less than the older saves). Well, turns out, getting rid of the ENB (as in deleting the d3d9.dll file) put everything back to normal. It's not enough to just disable the graphical effect, not through the in-game ENB menu, nor by disabling it in enblocal.ini, I have to delete the .dll). The ENB-version I was running was v279 and the preset a slightly nerfed Realvision. So, removed all files related to the old ENB and re-installed it without any preset. Nope.avi, still long load times and low fps. At this point I had a look in the Nvidia control panel to see if any settings had changed there, but it no longer detected Skyrim (I can add it manually though and those settings haven't changed). So I figured maybe some registry key had "gotten lost". Re-installing should fix that. I remove Skyrim through Steam, delete any files left in Data, get rid of Skyrim.ini/SkyrimPrefs, chased down any SKSE inis I could find, restart computer etc. Install the game, set up the .ini settings and install basic ENB without any preset. Huzzah, fps is back up but load times still kinda iffy. So I started turning ENB effects on one-by-one (Ambient occlusion, detailed shadows etc). Working fine. I then restart the game and it's back to the low frame rate. Noticed there was a new ENB out so I tried that on a new MO Profile. Still messes up and getting rid of d3d9.dll fixes it. At this point I normally pull my old rant about Windows updates and do a system restore. Thing is I haven't installed any updates during that time (I've set it to manual updates). Figuring that might be the problem I went ahead and installed the latest system updates. Nope, nada. I seem to recall updating Avast relatively recently, not entirely sure if that was within the 8 days, so I went ahead and added some new exclusions for TESV and enbhost. Still nothing. At this point I fired up a process monitoring tool to check if the game was getting stuck while loading any specific files, but no, it's loading things just fine. The only thing that made me suspicious is that the TESV.exe process is calling on ddraw.dll and some other (what I think are) graphics-related dlls fairly often (CreateFile, CloseFile, QueryBasicInformationFile within 0.001 seconds). I'm not tech-savvy enough to draw any real conclusions from that, from the little I know it's not too unusual for a program to operate on that time-scale, especially not if it's graphics-related. So, I've kind of run out of ideas. Might be missing something incredibly obvious here but after two days of trying to reason and trial-&-error I figured I could ask for some advice. So, has anyone else ran into a similar problem or have ideas? Anyone have some magic dxdiag-trick to address the issue? I'll attach my system specs, and bare-bones papyrus logs. I'll also attach the crazy load-order that I used for the old saves. I apologize for the lengthy post. Basic Specs: Windows 7 16 gigs of ram GTX 980Ti (latest graphics drivers) 4690k (no overclock) Skyrim and Mod Organizer on SSD (the drive appears healthy, nothing unusual reported) Barebones papyrus log, surprisingly a lot [02/21/2016 - 11:34:44PM] Papyrus log opened (PC) [02/21/2016 - 11:34:44PM] Update budget: 800.000000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 800.000000ms, Load screen budget: 1000.000000ms) [02/21/2016 - 11:34:44PM] Memory page: 6096 (min) 6096 (max) 8388608 (max total) [02/21/2016 - 11:35:02PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file? [02/21/2016 - 11:35:02PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC2BenthicLurkerFXSCRIPT", missing file? [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] error: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to alias Water on quest DLC2TTF2 (0401AAC8) because their base types do not match [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property AshSpawnAttachChancePercent on script DLC2AshSpawnAttackChanceScript attached to alias Player on quest DLC2Init (04016E02) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027115) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027114) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property TG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script tg06questscript attached to TG06 (00021552) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027117) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027116) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027112) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027113) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027111) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027110) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property DLC1VampireChangeEffect on script dlc1playervampirechangescript attached to DLC1PlayerVampireQuest (020071D0) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property Bladesman90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property SavageStrike on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property DarkSouls on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property MagicResistance30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property MagicResistance50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property AugmentedFrost on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property Bladesman60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property MageArmor50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property MageArmor30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property Necromancy on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property WindWalker on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property Alias_LevitationTarget on script DLC2_QF_DLC2DialogueTelMithry_02017E85 attached to DLC2DialogueTelMithryn (04017E85) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property DLC2RRTeldrynSero on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessage on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsFemale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanions on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWedding on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsMale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWait on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property DismissedFollower on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property Axe on script DLC2DBAncientDragonbornSCRIPT attached to (0401DC33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (0402710F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] VM is freezing... [02/21/2016 - 11:35:15PM] VM is frozen [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] Reverting game... [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] error: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to alias Water on quest DLC2TTF2 (0401AAC8) because their base types do not match [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property DLC2RRTeldrynSero on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessage on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsFemale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanions on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWedding on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsMale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWait on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property DismissedFollower on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property AshSpawnAttachChancePercent on script DLC2AshSpawnAttackChanceScript attached to alias Player on quest DLC2Init (04016E02) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property DLC1VampireChangeEffect on script dlc1playervampirechangescript attached to DLC1PlayerVampireQuest (020071D0) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027115) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027114) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property TG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script tg06questscript attached to TG06 (00021552) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027116) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027112) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027113) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027110) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027111) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property Alias_LevitationTarget on script DLC2_QF_DLC2DialogueTelMithry_02017E85 attached to DLC2DialogueTelMithryn (04017E85) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (0402710F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property Bladesman90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property SavageStrike on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property DarkSouls on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property MagicResistance30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property MagicResistance50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property AugmentedFrost on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property Bladesman60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property MageArmor50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property MageArmor30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property Necromancy on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property WindWalker on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property Axe on script DLC2DBAncientDragonbornSCRIPT attached to (0401DC33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027117) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:47PM] Loading game... [02/21/2016 - 11:35:48PM] VM is thawing... [02/21/2016 - 11:35:48PM] [bYOHHouseBuildingPlayerScript <alias Player on quest BYOHHouseBuilding (0300305D)>] OnPlayerLoadGame... [02/21/2016 - 11:35:48PM] DLC2InitCrossDLCScript found: [QF_DLC01VQ01_0100352A <DLC1VQ01 (0200352A)>], [byohrelationshipadoptionscript <BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)>] [02/21/2016 - 11:35:48PM] [byohhousebuildingscript <BYOHHouseBuilding (0300305D)>] Dawnguard.esm found - Initializing vampire hate list [02/21/2016 - 11:35:48PM] [DCL1VampireTurnPlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC1VampireTurn (0200588C)>]OnPlayerLoadGame() calling MakeAliasesEyesRed() [02/21/2016 - 11:35:48PM] [dlc1vampireturnscript <DLC1VampireTurn (0200588C)>]MakeAliasesEyesRed() [02/21/2016 - 11:35:49PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart() [02/21/2016 - 11:35:55PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart() [02/21/2016 - 11:35:58PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart() [02/21/2016 - 11:36:00PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart() [02/21/2016 - 11:36:03PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart() [02/21/2016 - 11:36:17PM] RNPC: Periodic update check. [02/21/2016 - 11:36:22PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart() [02/21/2016 - 11:36:27PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart() [02/21/2016 - 11:36:41PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart() [02/21/2016 - 11:36:46PM] VM is freezing... [02/21/2016 - 11:36:46PM] VM is frozen Over-the-top 243 plugin load order, I know it's stupid, but (for once) it doesn't seem to be the problem here, as the issue persists even for bare-bones load orders. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp AzarHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm RaceCompatibility.esm CreatureFramework.esm SGHairPackBase.esm Heels Sound.esm dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm ApachiiHair.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm daymoyl.esm ScocLB.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Cutting Room Floor.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp AMatterOfTime.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp BTRH_Ingjard.esp SexlabScocLB.esp SlaveTats.esp BTRH_Mjoll.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp RaceMenuOverlays.esp AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp BTRH_Beleval.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp BTRH_Jordis.esp DaedricCrownCraftable.esp MoonGlow.esp BlackWisteria.esp Alternate Valerica.esp HDTTailsEquipable.esp BTRH_Lydia.esp EbonyCrownCraftable.esp Blush When Aroused.esp zzEstrus.esp BTRH_Iona.esp GagSFX.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp BTRH_Frea.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp GagSFXDawnguard.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp GlassCrownCraftable.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp DragonCrownCraftable.esp AnonymousPeople.esp Aradia Devious Expansion.esp BTRH_Aranea.esp BTRH_Sorine.esp HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp HDT Female Hairstyles.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp HDTHair_Luckystars_Standalone.esp HHairstyles.esp Apropos.esp Hair Physics Project 1.11.esp BTRH_Brelyna.esp MBWSHeroines_SeranaSBFver.esp ImmersiveFP.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_NL1.esp XiNafay - Shoes.esp K2 HDT Boots.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Cassandra Frost Witch.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp ELFX - Dawnguard.esp ELFX - Dragonborn.esp KJ Tattoos 2K.esp KS Hairdos.esp Brows.esp SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp MiqoteMarks.esp MovementSpeedsFixed.esp BTRH_Rayya.esp NecroSketchAlpha05.esp RaceMenu.esp NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp PhysicsImpactDamageFix.esp RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp LyPlayerVoice.esp DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor.esp Angeli Devious Expansion.esp SGHairPackMerged.esp SLAnimLoader.esp Extra Scars.esp The Ningheim.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp SkyUI.esp LessIntrusiveHUD.esp SplashofRain.esp TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp TrueEyesNingheimPatch.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenu.esp WEBS extended.esp Whiskers.esp WildHuntress.esp XPMSE.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp iHUD.esp iLuvLoading.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp immersive roads.esp SkyRe_Main.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp NPC_Overhaul_V_2_.esp Weapons & Armor_FasterArrows.esp SkyRe_Survivalism.esp ElvenCrownCraftable.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp BrighterTorches.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp Point The Way.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp AOS.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcishWeapons.esp WAFR Pre ReProccer Patch.esp SkyRe_Main_Fix.esp SD Cages.esp hydra_slavegirls.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp SkyRe_HelmlessPerks.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp TERAArmors_CBBE.esp SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp EstrusChaurus.esp SexLab-Stories.esp HentaiCreatures.esp PetCollar.esp GDZZJJDH.esp LadyKdCirclets.esp SkyRe_EnemyScaling_Fix.esp mintylightningmod.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp xazPrisonOverhaul.esp xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp Dolls.esp SexLab_Solutions_PO_Patch.esp LC_immersiveLoot.esp TrueStorms.esp TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp ADS.esp Immersive Sounds - Aural Assortment.esp Immersive Sounds - Footsteps.esp Immersive Sounds - Footsteps Dragonborn Patch.esp ImmersiveSpells.esp Immersive Spells and Lights SkyRe Patch.esp Riding Styles.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp AOS2_DSI Patch.esp AOS2_EBT Patch.esp Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp AOS2_WAF Patch.esp AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp AOS2_SupremeStorms_CoT Patch.esp TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp AOS2_SkyRe Patch.esp AOS2_SkyRe-AFTER Patch.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp SimpleSlavery.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp Devious Deviants.esp GetStripped.esp Slaverun_Reloaded.esp Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp Ciceriareplacor.esp CinematicFireFX.esp FemaleUlfric.esp Dead Body Collision.esp Sara.esp SR Daemonic Followers.esp PCEA DG n DB DLC for SkyRe_Races.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp PrvtIRings.esp ErsiliaFollower.esp Witch Elf Armour.esp Grass_On_Steroids_SFO-SHORT.esp SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp S_L_U_T_S.esp SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp fantasy music overhaul.esp MilkModNEW.esp HoldBorderBanners.esp BlockSparkles.esp AOS2_IWIE Patch.esp SkyRe_Combat.esp DragonBoneBikini.esp MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp MilkModNEW HF.esp RosaFollower.esp Wolfbikini.esp BladesBikini.esp Lorelei.esp ScopedBows.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ReProccer.esp
27X Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 reinstall the ENB dll and remove the series and local inis and see if the problem persists.
Anatriax Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 reinstall the ENB dll and remove the series and local inis and see if the problem persists. Without enbseries or enblocal the .dll file is useless and won't know what it's supposed to do. This is pointless.
GrimReaperCalls Posted February 22, 2016 Author Posted February 22, 2016 reinstall the ENB dll and remove the series and local inis and see if the problem persists. Sadly the problem does persist through re-installs of the ENB, and removing the local inis before launching does not appear to fix the issue, instead gives a few errors, thanks though!
OldGuy879 Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 something stuck me____________ [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property Alias_LevitationTarget on script DLC2_QF_DLC2DialogueTelMithry_02017E85 attached to DLC2DialogueTelMithryn (04017E85) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (0402710F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property Bladesman90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property SavageStrike on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property DarkSouls on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property MagicResistance30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property MagicResistance50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property AugmentedFrost on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property Bladesman60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property MageArmor50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property MageArmor30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property Necromancy on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property WindWalker on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property Axe on script DLC2DBAncientDragonbornSCRIPT attached to (0401DC33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [02/21/2016 - 11:35:16PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027117) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property________________Those are from entries in the CO-SKSE save you could try deleting or move the most recent to another folder the co save and run a save cleaner.
Rebel Marauder Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 I'm not sure if this will help you at all, but with your long load times and stuttering/low fps, can I ask if you are signed up to the Steam client beta program ? The reason I ask is this. In the last 7 days Steam beta updated and anyone using an ENB who is in the beta program suffers massive fps drops to 10 or less and has stutter and lag galore, opting out of the beta solves this issue and allows the game to run as normal. Let me know if this information helped.
GrimReaperCalls Posted February 22, 2016 Author Posted February 22, 2016 I'm not sure if this will help you at all, but with your long load times and stuttering/low fps, can I ask if you are signed up to the Steam client beta program ? The reason I ask is this. In the last 7 days Steam beta updated and anyone using an ENB who is in the beta program suffers massive fps drops to 10 or less and has stutter and lag galore, opting out of the beta solves this issue and allows the game to run as normal. Let me know if this information helped. Holy canoly, that was indeed the issue! Thank you so much! Completely forgot I was signed into the steam beta!
Rebel Marauder Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Your welcome, that caught me out as well. I was going insane trying to work it out. Hopefully they'll fix that issue before unleashing that update on the unsuspecting public
27X Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 reinstall the ENB dll and remove the series and local inis and see if the problem persists. Without enbseries or enblocal the .dll file is useless and won't know what it's supposed to do. This is pointless. Bullshit. The inis control the amount of memory reserved and more importantly how often it's accessed and where it's aligned. I'm not sure if this will help you at all, but with your long load times and stuttering/low fps, can I ask if you are signed up to the Steam client beta program ? The reason I ask is this. In the last 7 days Steam beta updated and anyone using an ENB who is in the beta program suffers massive fps drops to 10 or less and has stutter and lag galore, opting out of the beta solves this issue and allows the game to run as normal. Let me know if this information helped. Holy canoly, that was indeed the issue! Thank you so much! Completely forgot I was signed into the steam beta! You're generally advised to disable the overlay when using any injection software (FX, reshade, enb, HDT) as a global rule, this would be a perfect example.
buglover Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Your welcome, that caught me out as well. I was going insane trying to work it out. Hopefully they'll fix that issue before unleashing that update on the unsuspecting public Could you be more specific, if possible? Is this issue with ALL Steam Beta users, or just some hardware configs? Personally I'm not signed up, but I was interested because I think this might be the cause of a lot of stutter problems that people are experiencing when trying to use the new ENB .303 binary. Possible scenario: Person hasn't played Skyrim for awhile, but signed up for the Steam Beta and thus received the update without knowing about it. They then hear about Boris's newest magic and install it. They play for the first time in weeks and have a horrible stutter. They KNOW they just installed new binary, but don't know about the update. Which do they blame for the stutter? See my point? Bug
Anatriax Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 reinstall the ENB dll and remove the series and local inis and see if the problem persists. Without enbseries or enblocal the .dll file is useless and won't know what it's supposed to do. This is pointless. Bullshit. The inis control the amount of memory reserved and more importantly how often it's accessed and where it's aligned. I'm not sure if this will help you at all, but with your long load times and stuttering/low fps, can I ask if you are signed up to the Steam client beta program ? The reason I ask is this. In the last 7 days Steam beta updated and anyone using an ENB who is in the beta program suffers massive fps drops to 10 or less and has stutter and lag galore, opting out of the beta solves this issue and allows the game to run as normal. Let me know if this information helped. Holy canoly, that was indeed the issue! Thank you so much! Completely forgot I was signed into the steam beta! You're generally advised to disable the overlay when using any injection software (FX, reshade, enb, HDT) as a global rule, this would be a perfect example. Excuse your rudeness. You pretty much just said the same thing I did. Derp. Also, what does the overlay have to do with Steam Beta? They are in no way related, and the person you quoted didn't even mention the overlay. Are you even on this planet?
buglover Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 @Rebel Marauder I just gave you credit for figuring this out over on the ENB .303/6.0 thread at the Nexus. People are already reporting that opting out of Steam Beta is allowing them to use the newest binary (.303). Kudos, Sir.
Rebel Marauder Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Your welcome, that caught me out as well. I was going insane trying to work it out. Hopefully they'll fix that issue before unleashing that update on the unsuspecting public Could you be more specific, if possible? Is this issue with ALL Steam Beta users, or just some hardware configs? Personally I'm not signed up, but I was interested because I think this might be the cause of a lot of stutter problems that people are experiencing when trying to use the new ENB .303 binary. Possible scenario: Person hasn't played Skyrim for awhile, but signed up for the Steam Beta and thus received the update without knowing about it. They then hear about Boris's newest magic and install it. They play for the first time in weeks and have a horrible stutter. They KNOW they just installed new binary, but don't know about the update. Which do they blame for the stutter? See my point? Bug I will do my best to give my explanation more substance, This issue is not with "all" steam beta users, only the one's who use an enb, which as I understand it is a vast majority of them, it was something in the coding of the new beta update which interfered with how the .dll hook accesses tesv.exe it actually affects all binaries and not just the latest but because the steam beta update only came out close to the release of 303 many people will attribute it to the new enb binary incorrectly. If your signed into steam when the update comes up in the beta you have to actively restart steam for the update to take effect so some users would know if they had it installed, but if you were to just start steam and the update was already up it would be silently installed and you wouldn't be any wiser, ergo in that situation people would blame Boris perhaps, which is why I am sharing this information on as many sites as possible to get the word out and avoid Boris being incorrectly blamed. I hope I covered the points you were making and then some.
buglover Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 I will do my best to give my explanation more substance, This issue is not with "all" steam beta users, only the one's who use an enb, which as I understand it is a vast majority of them, it was something in the coding of the new beta update which interfered with how the .dll hook accesses tesv.exe it actually affects all binaries and not just the latest but because the steam beta update only came out close to the release of 303 many people will attribute it to the new enb binary incorrectly. If your signed into steam when the update comes up in the beta you have to actively restart steam for the update to take effect so some users would know if they had it installed, but if you were to just start steam and the update was already up it would be silently installed and you wouldn't be any wiser, ergo in that situation people would blame Boris perhaps, which is why I am sharing this information on as many sites as possible to get the word out and avoid Boris being incorrectly blamed. I hope I covered the points you were making and then some. May I repost this comment elsewhere?
Rebel Marauder Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 I will do my best to give my explanation more substance, This issue is not with "all" steam beta users, only the one's who use an enb, which as I understand it is a vast majority of them, it was something in the coding of the new beta update which interfered with how the .dll hook accesses tesv.exe it actually affects all binaries and not just the latest but because the steam beta update only came out close to the release of 303 many people will attribute it to the new enb binary incorrectly. If your signed into steam when the update comes up in the beta you have to actively restart steam for the update to take effect so some users would know if they had it installed, but if you were to just start steam and the update was already up it would be silently installed and you wouldn't be any wiser, ergo in that situation people would blame Boris perhaps, which is why I am sharing this information on as many sites as possible to get the word out and avoid Boris being incorrectly blamed. I hope I covered the points you were making and then some. May I repost this comment elsewhere? If the information I have shared helps even 1 more person to resolve their issues then by all means, I'm all for the sharing of information for the betterment of communities.
buglover Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 "If the information I have shared helps even 1 more person to resolve their issues then by all means, I'm all for the sharing of information for the betterment of communities." As it should always be. A couple of people at the Nexus have already stated that opting out solved their stuttering issues, so, yeah--It has already helped. Thanks again! Bug
D_ManXX2 Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 i am not too sure i not using any beta and never even opted for beta of steam. and i still get massive stutter. split second stutter is what makes playing this game now no longer fun.
27X Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Your welcome, that caught me out as well. I was going insane trying to work it out. Hopefully they'll fix that issue before unleashing that update on the unsuspecting public Could you be more specific, if possible? Is this issue with ALL Steam Beta users, or just some hardware configs? Personally I'm not signed up, but I was interested because I think this might be the cause of a lot of stutter problems that people are experiencing when trying to use the new ENB .303 binary. Possible scenario: Person hasn't played Skyrim for awhile, but signed up for the Steam Beta and thus received the update without knowing about it. They then hear about Boris's newest magic and install it. They play for the first time in weeks and have a horrible stutter. They KNOW they just installed new binary, but don't know about the update. Which do they blame for the stutter? See my point? Bug Signed up and it's not an issue for me. As a dev working on a project I kinda have to be. However, I don't have the overlay enabled for strict separation of church and state reasons while on the job. No stuttering issues since changing thread priority in .303. The caveat to this my system would be capable of running SKyrim + the custom ENB at 90 frames@4K if V-Sync was not enabled.
Rebel Marauder Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 @Rebel Marauder I just gave you credit for figuring this out over on the ENB .303/6.0 thread at the Nexus. People are already reporting that opting out of Steam Beta is allowing them to use the newest binary (.303). Kudos, Sir. Thankyou @buglover but I do not wish to take full credibility for this find, I myself was directed to this information from another user The original post by TirigonX of "step" was quoted to me by Nebulous112 also of "step" that the steam overlay could be an issue. Any further information I have supplied here is direct from me and not from external sources, I'm glad this information is helping people regardless of how or whom shared it initially. I have read the comments in response to your post on the ENB page you mentioned, it seems to have garnered quite the following, hopefully as you said this will remain only a bug and not a common feature of upcoming steam platform releases. i am not too sure i not using any beta and never even opted for beta of steam. and i still get massive stutter. split second stutter is what makes playing this game now no longer fun. If your not in the steam beta and you still suffer with stutter this could be numerous things, including but not limited to system specifications, enblocal.ini settings, memory allocation or SKSE.ini settings Your welcome, that caught me out as well. I was going insane trying to work it out. Hopefully they'll fix that issue before unleashing that update on the unsuspecting public Could you be more specific, if possible? Is this issue with ALL Steam Beta users, or just some hardware configs? Personally I'm not signed up, but I was interested because I think this might be the cause of a lot of stutter problems that people are experiencing when trying to use the new ENB .303 binary. Possible scenario: Person hasn't played Skyrim for awhile, but signed up for the Steam Beta and thus received the update without knowing about it. They then hear about Boris's newest magic and install it. They play for the first time in weeks and have a horrible stutter. They KNOW they just installed new binary, but don't know about the update. Which do they blame for the stutter? See my point? Bug Signed up and it's not an issue for me. As a dev working on a project I kinda have to be. However, I don't have the overlay enabled for strict separation of church and state reasons while on the job. No stuttering issues since changing thread priority in .303. The caveat to this my system would be capable of running SKyrim + the custom ENB at 90 frames@4K if V-Sync was not enabled. All I can say is you must be one of the lucky one's to not have this bug, but what does "for strict separation of church and state reasons while on the job" have to do with enabling and disabling the steam overlay ? Thread priority is only needed if you are already suffering with lag or problematic loading of saves. Boris himself has said that unless your suffering from crashes and/or loading a save that would otherwise be impossible to load that the thread lines need not be changed.
D_ManXX2 Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 If your not in the steam beta and you still suffer with stutter this could be numerous things, including but not limited to system specifications, enblocal.ini settings, memory allocation or SKSE.ini settings IIf that was true why is the older version working with no problem of even stutter happening ?? People still keep reporting massive stutter even without that steam beta on nexus. So something tells me it has to be something else that enb itself does that does not work right, it still alpha release so it may still improve for next version. btw there seem to be new version for stutter fix from enb.
buglover Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 @Rebel Marauder I updated that post with the following... "Thankyou @buglover but I do not wish to take full credibility for this find, I myself was directed to this information from another user The original post by TirigonX of "step" was quoted to me by Nebulous112 also of "step" that the steam overlay could be an issue. Any further information I have supplied here is direct from me and not from external sources" Credit where credit is due. This was news to Boris, as well, and is now stickied information in that thread. Thanks again.
buglover Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 If your not in the steam beta and you still suffer with stutter this could be numerous things, including but not limited to system specifications, enblocal.ini settings, memory allocation or SKSE.ini settings IIf that was true why is the older version working with no problem of even stutter happening ?? People still keep reporting massive stutter even without that steam beta on nexus. So something tells me it has to be something else that enb itself does that does not work right, it still alpha release so it may still improve for next version. btw there seem to be new version for stutter fix from enb. This. Go get it, folks. I can also confirm that hyper-threading entries in .ini files are no longer needed. REMOVE THEM. If they remain, they will only make things worse. If I've learned ANYTHING from all of this, it is the following... If Boris says to do it, DO IT.
Mookeylama Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 If your not in the steam beta and you still suffer with stutter this could be numerous things, including but not limited to system specifications, enblocal.ini settings, memory allocation or SKSE.ini settings IIf that was true why is the older version working with no problem of even stutter happening ?? People still keep reporting massive stutter even without that steam beta on nexus. So something tells me it has to be something else that enb itself does that does not work right, it still alpha release so it may still improve for next version. btw there seem to be new version for stutter fix from enb. This. Go get it, folks. I can also confirm that hyper-threading entries in .ini files are no longer needed. REMOVE THEM. If they remain, they will only make things worse. If I've learned ANYTHING from all of this, it is the following... If Boris says to do it, DO IT. any link to this new stutter fix please
Rebel Marauder Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 If your not in the steam beta and you still suffer with stutter this could be numerous things, including but not limited to system specifications, enblocal.ini settings, memory allocation or SKSE.ini settings IIf that was true why is the older version working with no problem of even stutter happening ?? People still keep reporting massive stutter even without that steam beta on nexus. So something tells me it has to be something else that enb itself does that does not work right, it still alpha release so it may still improve for next version. btw there seem to be new version for stutter fix from enb. This. Go get it, folks. I can also confirm that hyper-threading entries in .ini files are no longer needed. REMOVE THEM. If they remain, they will only make things worse. If I've learned ANYTHING from all of this, it is the following... If Boris says to do it, DO IT. any link to this new stutter fix please Yes, you can either download it from here as just an enblocal.ini file or you can upgrade to the enb 0305 which has all this included by simply clicking here and scrolling to the bottom of the page and clicking download
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