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I have upgraded to Windows 10 and was pleasantly surprised by the look and feel of it. However I have concerns with the privacy/security aspects of Windows 10, the removal of control over what gets pushed to my computer, and the general direction in which Microsoft is headed. As a result I am giving some consideration to moving everything wholesale to Linux and would like to start a discussion here on that subject.

 

It does look like most of my games will run via WINE or PlayOnLinux.

 

So questions:

 

Which linux distribution is recommended?

Is there significant performance degradation for Skyrim and/or ESO (sorry)?

Can I expect significant issues with getting everything up and running?

Can I run Skyrim with ENBoost/ENB?

Is it possible to use Mod Organizer?

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Just note that Ubuntu may also head the same destination as Win10 (in terms of privacy). There is whoopsie which sends crashdumps with your data and some other deamons/services. You can disable them, though

I'd went for Lubuntu for its low resource usage.

 

You can run MO, CK, Skyrim, ENB. Can't run FNIS (yet?). Don't expect much support. Don't expect that some native applications like SKSE plugins, modding tools will run, will run properly. Expect performance loos and it will depend on your rig.

 

Why not use Win7 or 8?

 

 

Guest ffabris
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I have upgraded to Windows 10 and was pleasantly surprised by the look and feel of it. However I have concerns with the privacy/security aspects of Windows 10, the removal of control over what gets pushed to my computer, and the general direction in which Microsoft is headed. As a result I am giving some consideration to moving everything wholesale to Linux and would like to start a discussion here on that subject.

 

It does look like most of my games will run via WINE or PlayOnLinux.

 

So questions:

 

Which linux distribution is recommended?

Is there significant performance degradation for Skyrim and/or ESO (sorry)?

Can I expect significant issues with getting everything up and running?

Can I run Skyrim with ENBoost/ENB?

Is it possible to use Mod Organizer?

 

  • I would recommend linux Mint, KDE. Seems the best for those new to linux.
  • I've never played skyrim on Windows so I can't compare. However, I would expect it will be slower since you'll be playing on an emulated windows.
  • Skyrim works fine. Setup isn't painless but it works.

    NMM won't start, ModOrganizer crashes 4 out of 5 times. Learn to install/uninstall manually. ;)

    SKSE works, FNIS works, TES5Edit works, CK works but is slow, unstable.

  • No idea on ENB, never tried.

 

A good reference to setting up PlayOnLinux is in this thread. Please read it all as later posts have more up to date info.

 

General note: I was a Windows user, going back to version 1. I first installed linux back when XP was the most current version of Windows. I set up dual boot so I could switch back and forth. 3 months later, I removed Windows, and never looked back.

 

If you're new to linux, there will be much to learn. While the UI can look very similar, under the hood, it is vastly different, and linux doesn't hold your hand the way Windows does.

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I have upgraded to Windows 10 and was pleasantly surprised by the look and feel of it. However I have concerns with the privacy/security aspects of Windows 10, the removal of control over what gets pushed to my computer, and the general direction in which Microsoft is headed. As a result I am giving some consideration to moving everything wholesale to Linux and would like to start a discussion here on that subject.

 

It does look like most of my games will run via WINE or PlayOnLinux.

 

So questions:

 

Which linux distribution is recommended?

Is there significant performance degradation for Skyrim and/or ESO (sorry)?

Can I expect significant issues with getting everything up and running?

Can I run Skyrim with ENBoost/ENB?

Is it possible to use Mod Organizer?

This is what really gets me about it. I'm sticking with Windows 7 for now. ;)

 

It does look like most of my games will run via WINE or PlayOnLinux.

Bear in mind that "runs" does not necessarily mean "runs well."

Skyrim "runs" on my old computer with a Pentium 4 processor, 2gb RAM, a 256mb graphics card... but it doesn't run particularly well. Minimum graphics settings and several performance mods help, but it's still not perfect.

 

Which linux distribution is recommended?

I haven't tried very many, but here's my short list (in no particular order):

  • Mint is probably my favorite. It's quick, easy, and simple, and does what I want it to do without cluttering things up too much. And it has a lovely GUI that is very similar to Windows.
  • I am most familiar with OpenSUSE. It has many problems, and can take longer than most Windows OS to actually load up (as of about a year ago - haven't tried any new versions yet), but it's pretty solid. Same basic GUI as Mint.
  • DSL might work, but then again DSL is pretty basic. It might not have enough functionality to even run WINE. I don't know.
  • Ubuntu isn't bad, it's a pretty solid OS. A few smallish issues, about on par with OpenSUSE. Caveat: I've used GNOME but not Ubuntu.
  • Sabayon is pretty good, as far as I can tell (tried it a couple of years ago for a few days), but IIRC there were some translation problems.

 

I have never used Fedora or derivatives, but I have heard lots of good things.

 

 

Is there significant performance degradation for Skyrim and/or ESO (sorry)?

Can I expect significant issues with getting everything up and running?

Can I run Skyrim with ENBoost/ENB?

Is it possible to use Mod Organizer?

 

Emulators (and emulator-like programs such as Wine) can generally run things pretty well, with a bit of tweaking, but they're never quite as good as native OS. If your computer is fairly beefy, it might not matter at all though, you might not notice any performance difference.I honestly don't know. I haven't tried to run them through Linux.

Who knows, though... you might get better performance running through Linux than through Windows 10.  :D

 

 

EDIT: Don't be afraid to dual-boot if necessary.

Guest ffabris
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Just note that Ubuntu may also head the same destination as Win10 (in terms of privacy). There is whoopsie which sends crashdumps with your data and some other deamons/services. You can disable them, though

I'd went for Lubuntu for its low resource usage.

 

You can run MO, CK, Skyrim, ENB. Can't run FNIS (yet?). Don't expect much support. Don't expect that some native applications like SKSE plugins, modding tools will run, will run properly. Expect performance loos and it will depend on your rig.

 

Why not use Win7 or 8?

 

Interesting one what works for you vs what works for me. ;-)

 

For FNIS, find a copy of scrrun.dll from a Win7 32-bit and replace the one that comes with wine. That solved it for me. actually, try the attached, if you like.

Wow, who knew there were so many linux folks lurking in the woodwork! :D

scrrun.dll.rar

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Interesting one what works for you vs what works for me. ;-)

 

For FNIS, find a copy of scrrun.dll from a Win7 32-bit and replace the one that comes with wine. That solved it for me. actually, try the attached, if you like.

Wow, who knew there were so many linux folks lurking in the woodwork! :D

 

Thanks!

 

I don't actually play Skyrim on Linux, my laptop's graphics card is not enough good for that. Also there are plenty of older games I haven't tried yet :)

 

Guest ffabris
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Interesting one what works for you vs what works for me. ;-)

 

For FNIS, find a copy of scrrun.dll from a Win7 32-bit and replace the one that comes with wine. That solved it for me. actually, try the attached, if you like.

Wow, who knew there were so many linux folks lurking in the woodwork! :D

 

Thanks!

 

I don't actually play Skyrim on Linux, my laptop's graphics card is not enough good for that. Also there are plenty of older games I haven't tried yet :)

 

 

 

Haha... ok then. :)

 

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Next question: Has anyone tried to use SLI? I currently run dual 670s here.

 

As far as learning linux, I use it on a daily basis at work, mostly to set up and run servers so I'm not completely unfamiliar with the internals. I have heard good things about Mint, so will probably give that a shot over the weekend.

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I'd went for Lubuntu for its low resource usage.

 

Grabbing it now, as I have a Wind netbook that's still too slow for Windows 7. Planning to turn that one into a mobile workstation for fieldwork such as testing networks and downloading drivers.

Guest ffabris
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Next question: Has anyone tried to use SLI? I currently run dual 670s here.

 

As far as learning linux, I use it on a daily basis at work, mostly to set up and run servers so I'm not completely unfamiliar with the internals. I have heard good things about Mint, so will probably give that a shot over the weekend.

 

Not actually tried that ... but I expect the nVidia drivers will handle it. You'll need to install those anyway.

 

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I'd went for Lubuntu for its low resource usage.

 

Grabbing it now, as I have a Wind netbook that's still too slow for Windows 7. Planning to turn that one into a mobile workstation for fieldwork such as testing networks and downloading drivers.

 

In case default Lubuntu desktop manager will scare you, you still can install another one (mate/openbox/whatever)

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Won't upgrade also only when i need to.

 

Linux is not holygrail to privacy misconception many think it is.

 

Also linux still sucks when it come to games there are some improvements but it go slow.

 

I'll stick with windows 8.1 until better alternative.

 

Google and Fakebook are way worse then M$ windows 10 seems to become king of privacy violations malware/spyware virus.

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