MilkyWays Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 You know, one lovely thing about New Vegas is that there's never any shortage of bugs to make the game literally unplayable, especially if you play with mods. I have been struggling with this issue for MONTHS to no avail, and I'm about ready to delete this damned game and every file associated with it. Simply put, the game works fine. For about a minute. Then I try to use a workbench / reloading bench and for one, all of the options are bunched up into a tiny mess of text in the corner of the screen. It doesn't end there. If I enter another area through a loading screen, immediately all custom meshes and textures act as if they're missing or Archive Invalidation just turned itself off while I'm in-game. And for some obscure reason I can't pause the game. Everything that rendered properly before the loading screens will now fail to do so and turn into the infamous missing mesh model. I've tried every possible method of Archive Invalidation I could to no avail. I'm fairly sure the game just screwed itself.In the interest of helping you guys help me, here's my load order for reference. I've already reinstalled the game, deleted every mod and reinstalled them. I'm out of ideas. GameMode=FalloutNVFalloutNV.esm=1DeadMoney.esm=1HonestHearts.esm=1OldWorldBlues.esm=1LonesomeRoad.esm=1GunRunnersArsenal.esm=1ClassicPack.esm=1MercenaryPack.esm=1TribalPack.esm=1CaravanPack.esm=1CFWNV.esm=1drgNV - Melissa Companion.esm=1FreesideOpen.esm=1AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm=1NVInteriors_Core.esm=1NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm=1Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm=1Project Nevada - Core.esm=1Project Nevada - Equipment.esm=1Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm=1SomeguySeries.esm=1T6M Equipment Replacer NV.esm=1Tales from the Burning Sands.esm=1Weapon Mod Expansion.esm=1WME - GRA.esm=1WME - DLCs.esm=1ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm=1ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm=1UWHNV-Core.esm=1Lings.esm=1MikotoBeauty.esm=1Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp=1Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp=1RustTownV1Master.esm=1Daughters of Ares.esp=1NVWillow.esp=1Another-Kick-in-the-Head.esm=1VincentVincent.esp=1Niner.esm=1Mission Mojave - Ultimate Edition.esp=1MMUE POP.esp=1MMUE-CP-Electrocity.esp=1MMUE-CP-NVInteriors.esp=1FreesideOpenPatch.esp=1The Mod Configuration Menu.esp=1MikotoBPCCArcade.esp=1MikotoBPWastersOverhaul.esp=1Veronica_Redux_Type3_Alice_Mikoto.esp=1Freeside Fine Living.esp=1RustTownAdditions3.esp=1UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp=1UWHNV-Addon-GRA.esp=1UWHNV-Addon-FollowerHome.esp=1UWHNV-Addon-NoCompanionsRoom.esp=1Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp=1Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp=1Project Nevada - All DLC.esp=1MMUE-CP-PNALLDLC.esp=1MMUE-CP-PNCore.esp=1MMUE-CP-PNRebalance.esp=1MMUE-CP-PNEquipment.esp=1Existence2.0.esp=1CRL9K_ThisMachineSound.esp=1Radio Free Wasteland.esp=1awilderwasteland.esp=1NewVegasBounties.esp=1NewVegasBountiesII.esp=1NewVegasBountiesFSOPatch.esp=1outsidebets.esp=1Pacersgambit.esp=1rotfacetoriches.esp=1CFW-DLC.esp=1KerberosPanzer.esp=1Daughters of Ares - CouriersStash.esp=1LingsPrettyThings.esp=1Daughters of Ares - Lings Patch.esp=1MMUE-CP-New Vegas Redesigned.esp=0drgNV - Marcus Companion.esp=1Dead Money - Automatic Rifle fix.esp=1Weapon Mod Expansion.esp=1WME - GRA - Weapon Integration.esp=1WME - GRA - Vendor Reform.esp=1WME - GRA - Unique Integration.esp=1WME - GRA - Just Guns.esp=0WME - GRA - Complete.esp=0WME - GRA - Arenovalis.esp=0WME - GRA - All Weapons.esp=1WME - DLCs.esp=1WME - DLCs Arenovalis.esp=0EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp=1MMUE-CP-EVE.esp=1Vurt's WFO.esp=1ProjectRealityMkIv5HDR.esp=1Nights are Darker - Ultimate Edition.esp=0Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp=1ILO - GS Shack.esp=1ILO - NVInteriors Project.esp=1ILO - Project Reality Patch.esp=1ILO - A World of Pain.esp=1UWHNV-Addon-Time for Bed NV.esp=0DK Caucasians.esp=1MikotoBeauty.esp=1housemod.esp=1DLC-Another-Kick-Extension.esp=0ArisakaType99.esp=1Badmothafucka.esp=1BrassGoggles.esp=1Browning1885HW.esp=1CFW-PN.esp=1CFW-PN-DLC.esp=1De Lisle Commando.esp=1Digital_Nightmare.esp=1EVE FNV - NO GRA - TIS Disabled.esp=0EVE FNV - NO DLC - TIS Disabled.esp=0EVE FNV - ALL DLC - TIS Disabled.esp=0Type3MClothing_OWB.esp=1Type3MClothing_HH.esp=1Type3MClothing.esp=1CCO - FT Ulysses Patch.esp=0CCO - Ulysses Companion.esp=1CCO - Ulysses Companion - All DLCs Patch.esp=1CCO - Ulysses Companion - Dead Money Patch.esp=0CCO - Ulysses Companion - Free Follower.esp=0CCO - Ulysses Companion - Old World Blues Patch.esp=0UWHNV-Wave Radio.esp=1TheLozza's_Gasmasks.esp=13DNPC_HopeLies.esp=1Companion Sandbox Mode3.esp=1ILO - New Vegas Bounties.esp=1ILO - New Vegas Bounties II.esp=1ILO - Rust Town 2.esp=1IrishVolunteerUniform.esp=0Lee Enfield No1 MK I Rifles.esp=1CNR_Beta.esp=1HKMG2277.esp=1HK Base.esp=1Donta1979 MK117 Prototype Armor.esp=1MP40.esp=1zzClothes.esp=1ED-E Replacer.esp=1T6M Dead Money Armor.esp=1AWOPFSOPatch.esp=1P0N-3 Radio.esp=1Pickelhaubes.esp=1zmod_add_misc_RadioGaga.esp=1Cass.esp=1Russell.esp=1STRobot-Companion.esp=0Stg44CQB.esp=1T6M Old World Blues Replace.esp=1CourierCacheWSE.esp=1MMUE-CP-ILO.esp=1IMPACT.esp=1AWOP-IMPACT.esp=1IMPACT - AllDLC.esp=1WME-PN-Impact CP.esp=0WME - Impact CP.esp=0WME - Impact CP [ALLDLC].esp=1IMPACT-WMX.esp=0IMPACT-WMX-POPMerged.esp=0IMPACT-WMX-ModernWeapons.esp=0IMPACT-WMX-DLCMerged.esp=0IMPACT-Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esp=0IMPACT-POPMerged.esp=1IMPACT-CFWNV.esp=1IMPACT-CFW-DLC.esp=1IMPACT-AWOP.esp=1IMPACT-AG Supplimentary Uniques.esp=0FOOK-WME-Impact CP.esp=0FOOK-Impact CP.esp=0 EDIT: Okay, it's not Archive Invalidation related. The .ini files don't change after entering a loading screen. Something is causing the game to fail to load meshes and textures after walking through a door.
DoctaSax Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Disappearing tex, can't pause = plugin limit, or plugin record limit, or whatever it really is. Either way, reduce the number of mods you have.
MilkyWays Posted February 4, 2015 Author Posted February 4, 2015 Disappearing tex, can't pause = plugin limit, or plugin record limit, or whatever it really is. Either way, reduce the number of mods you have. I'll give that a shot. I've been going through my mods list and enabling them in groups, then entering/exiting the cell that the problem usually occurs in, and I haven't spotted the problem yet. But I swear I've had more mods than this running in the past. I'm guessing it's a specific one that's causing it.
spoonsinger Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 I haven't looked at your load order, but did count them. You have 171 mods. I'm fairly sure that there is a circa 140'ish weird esm/esp mod limit on NV, (not the 255 of Oblivion/Skyrim). I've never been able to get over 136 on my NV setup's without it screwing up anyway. (Can't find the links, but I think this is a factual statement).
MilkyWays Posted February 4, 2015 Author Posted February 4, 2015 I haven't looked at your load order, but did count them. You have 171 mods. I'm fairly sure that there is a circa 140'ish weird esm/esp mod limit on NV, (not the 255 of Oblivion/Skyrim). I've never been able to get over 136 on my NV setup's without it screwing up anyway. (Can't find the links, but I think this is a factual statement). After enabling all my mods about five at a time it seems, for some obscure reason that IMPACT is causing the issues. I've tried disabling other mods and enabling IMPACT but the issues come all the same. :I That is excessively weird. Thanks for the advice, though. Guess it's time I get my addiction under control. Heh.
Loogie Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 I haven't looked at your load order, but did count them. You have 171 mods. I'm fairly sure that there is a circa 140'ish weird esm/esp mod limit on NV, (not the 255 of Oblivion/Skyrim). I've never been able to get over 136 on my NV setup's without it screwing up anyway. (Can't find the links, but I think this is a factual statement). After enabling all my mods about five at a time it seems, for some obscure reason that IMPACT is causing the issues. I've tried disabling other mods and enabling IMPACT but the issues come all the same. :I That is excessively weird. Thanks for the advice, though. Guess it's time I get my addiction under control. Heh. Here's the stupid, unintuitive part - you actually have to remove the plugins you're not using entirely. Even if it's unchecked, the game still loads the data but just doesn't use it. If it's a problem with the plugin limit and not an actual mod, disabling mods won't fix anything.
d4nt320 Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 I haven't looked at your load order, but did count them. You have 171 mods. I'm fairly sure that there is a circa 140'ish weird esm/esp mod limit on NV, (not the 255 of Oblivion/Skyrim). I've never been able to get over 136 on my NV setup's without it screwing up anyway. (Can't find the links, but I think this is a factual statement). After enabling all my mods about five at a time it seems, for some obscure reason that IMPACT is causing the issues. I've tried disabling other mods and enabling IMPACT but the issues come all the same. :I That is excessively weird. Thanks for the advice, though. Guess it's time I get my addiction under control. Heh. Here's the stupid, unintuitive part - you actually have to remove the plugins you're not using entirely. Even if it's unchecked, the game still loads the data but just doesn't use it. If it's a problem with the plugin limit and not an actual mod, disabling mods won't fix anything. is like DoctaSax and Loogie say. i was having the same problem like you in last i did what doctasax and loogie say. but in that time i never ask here for help but i am glad that problem is not only my, in that time i start experimenting my self now i only have 120 mod and i use all the mod and went i install a quest mod i play the quest from the start to finish after that i delete that quest mod. i only use the mods i use the most.
jAudi5K Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Thank you for this post!! My fallout was perfect up till yesterday. I couldn't figure it out for the life of me
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