Fienyx Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 I've seen a thread before about mod addiction, the installing of as many mods as possible. I had nearly 400 mods and started getting weird issues. Npc's were always mad at me, even if i used MCS, scrolls, spells, or console moddisposition. There were areas in the world that would freeze the game, but if I went a few feet over, I could pass. So I decided I need to bring my list down. I only have 2 mods that are merged mods. I'm down to 291 (includes what gets bashed) which gives me 244 active mods total. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34] 03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 04 Harvest[Containers].esm 05 Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esm 06 CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm 07 Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm [Version 3.0b] 08 CLS-Craftybits.esm 09 A_Bloody_Mess.esm 0A Lovers with PK.esm 0B TamagoClub.esm 0C HiyokoClub.esm 0D LoversCreature.esm 0E Fundament.esm [Version ision] 0F Oblivion Sexualized Monsters.esm 10 HorseCombatMaster.esm 11 ShieldOnBack.esm [Version 3.4.1] 12 Oblivifall Master File.esm [Version 1.2] 13 SDR.esm [Version 8.2.0] 14 CustomSpellIcons - OBME.esm 15 Teenagers.esm 16 Teenagers Shivering Isles.esm 17 Children.esm 18 Children Shivering Isles.esm 19 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.1] 1A DLCShiveringIsles.esp 1B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.5] 1C All Natural.esp [Version 1.35] 1D All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.35] 1E Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] 1F Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp [Version 2.01] 20 Immersive Interiors - Landscape Addon.esp 21 Better Bell Sounds.esp ++ Symphony of Violence.esp 22 Better Rainbows.esp 23 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.35] 24 WindowLightingSystem.esp 25 AliveWaters.esp 26 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 27 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 28 EnableFreeLookOBSE.esp 29 Menu and Camera Toggler.esp [Version 1.1] 2A More Effective Enchantments.esp ++ NPCs Eat More.esp 2B See You Sleep DLL.esp 2C Camping.esp ** Camping - Natural Interiors Patch.esp 2D QQuix - Rock, rock, rock your ship - V3.esp ++ Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp [Version 1.01] ** OSM-All Genders.esp 2E Slof's Oblivion Pillow Book.esp 2F Torch Arrows.esp 30 TryBeforeYouBuy.esp 31 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3] 32 Teenagers Patch.esp [Version 1.1] 33 Teenagers Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.1] 34 Children Patch.esp [Version 1.3] 35 Children Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.3] 36 ExtraNPCs.esp <----- 8 Mods Merged 37 BookTrackerOBSE.esp 38 Container Menu Support.esp 39 Display Stats.esp [Version 2.0.1] 3A FormID Finder4.esp 3B Get Wet.esp 3C kuerteeSittableRocks.esp 3D sycNiceToMeetYou.esp 3E Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.3.2] 3F Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp 40 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3] 41 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3] 42 RM Hot Potion and Poison.esp [Version 1.0] 43 Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 2.3.1] 44 devsmods darkbrotherhoodarmorreplacer.esp ** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 45 Alluring Books.esp ++ Better Unique Items.esp 46 CL_Tools_and_Clutter.esp 47 Dreadweave Complete_Light.esp 48 EpicLifeDetectRing.esp 49 Nicos Gift.esp 4A Nicos Scimitars Back.esp [Version 1.61] 4B sci-fi bow.esp 4C Slof's Goggles.esp 4D The Maeva Scribonia Collection 1.esp 4E The Maeva Scribonia Collection 2.esp 4F The Maeva Scribonia Collection 3.esp 50 Maeva Scribonia Collection 4 Option 2 Sleazy.esp 51 Immersive Weapons.esp 52 Slof's Horses Base.esp 53 Slof's Extra Horses.esp 54 Wolf Diversity.esp ++ RealBanditsAndHighwaymen.esp 55 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 56 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] ++ CB-Cobl_Glue.esp 57 Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp 58 Alluring Wine Bottles.esp 59 Hemingweys Capes Improved.esp [Version 3.0b] ++ Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla - Ore Respawn.esp ++ Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp ++ Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp 5A Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp [Version 1.03] 5B Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp [Version 1.0] 5C Cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp 5D _NDibellaBT.esp 5E Better Camps.esp 5F Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp [Version 2.01] 60 HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp 61 BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.1.2] 62 Fighters Guild Quests.esp 63 OblivionFarmer'sMarket3NoHungry.esp 64 LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.61] 65 LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp ++ LostSwordOfTheAylied_delayer.esp 66 Mages Guild Quests.esp 67 MrPwner's Marihuana Mod.esp 68 MTCExpandedVillages.esp 69 Quest-Related Dungeons Marked.esp 6A Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp 6B Secret Sanctuary v1.esp 6C Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp 6D Stonehenge.esp 6E TeddyChest.esp 6F TheElderCouncil.esp 70 AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.32.Non-COBL] 71 House of Healing at Weye.esp 72 WeyeOverhaulModsPatch.esp 73 Wayshrines Enhanced.esp 74 Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp [Version 1.43] 75 HackdirtAlive.esp 76 HentaiMania2.esp 77 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] 78 A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp ++ A Bloody Mess - Armor Shader Supression.esp ++ A Bloody Mess - Arena Wash Basin.esp 79 Actors Have DLT.esp [Version 2.4] <---- 3 Mods Merged 7A Cliff's Shacks Basements.esp [Version 1.0] 7B HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2] 7C DS Storage Sacks.esp [Version 1.3] 7D EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp 7E Finite Ammo.esp 7F GuildAdvancement.esp 80 ImprovedWaterfrontShips.esp 81 kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp 82 kuerteeSilentEquipUnequipClothing.esp ++ more books teach.esp ++ More Lockpicks.esp 83 More Gold in Locked Containers-5976.esp 84 Oblivifall - Closing Time.esp [Version 1.0] 85 P1DKeyChainSI Merged.esp 86 kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp 87 RMDailyIncomeV2.esp 88 UNKNOWNYMOUS Social NPCs.esp 89 CLS-Craftybits.esp ++ CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue.esp [Version 1.1] 8A CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue-Ragplacer.esp ++ CB-Weights_Hard.esp 8B Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 5.4.3] 8C Elz - No Floating Weapon.esp 8D Elz - Realistic Gravity.esp 8E SM Encumbrance and Fatigue.esp [Version 2.6] 8F AdvancedHealthRegen.esp 90 Sitting Regeneration.esp 91 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.3] 92 Basic Personal Hygiene.esp [Version 3.0] 93 Basic Physical Activities.esp [Version 1.3] 94 AltVillageStart.esp 95 Blood Raven.esp 96 Lindum-BloodRaven Patch.esp ++ No Vampirism.esp 97 FuroGeneratorTrap.esp 98 MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 99 MCS extension.esp 9A RefScope.esp [Version 2.1.2] 9B SetBody.esp 9C Disease Immunity (Oblivion + Shivering Isles).esp 9D Light Sleepers v1.0.esp 9E MigFEA.esp [Version 2.1.2] 9F CandleNoMagicCapsV2.esp A0 Syc_AtHomeAlchemy_No_Bounty_v2.esp A1 RshAlchemy.esp A2 RshAlchemyRecipes.esp A3 Dark Brotherhood Armor Bounty v1.0.esp A4 EnchantmentRestore.esp A5 Glowing Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones 14-28 Days.esp A6 StolenItemOwnership.esp A7 IThieveryRaiseVeryHard.esp A8 ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp A9 ZumbsLockpickingMod - Hide Difficulty Addon.esp AA Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5] AB Denock Arrows.esp AC Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp AD DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp AE Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp [Version 7.1] AF Double-tap dodge.esp B0 Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp B1 Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp [Version 4] B2 Unequip Broken Armor.esp [Version 2.8.2] ++ SDR_Oblivion.esp [Version 8.2.0] B3 HumantouchNPC.esp ++ MagesGuildSkillRewards.esp B4 nGCD.esp B5 Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp B6 Panzer_Kleidung_03.esp ** Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp ** Cava Obscura - SI.esp ** Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp B7 Kanin Race.esp B8 Elves Of Lineage II.esp ++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp B9 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0] BA NeckSeamFixer.esp BB Automatic Timescale.esp [Version 1.1.1] ** GW71_Life_Detect.esp BC qazFingerSnap.esp BD Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] ++ A Bloody Mess_Fix.esp ++ DBED - 7 murders Level delay.esp [Version 1.0] ++ HealthFood-2050.esp ++ LessRain.esp ++ MD No more Sleeper Agents.esp ++ Icon Overhaul.esp ** YoungerNPCs.esp ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.35] BE OblivionReloaded.esp BF Bashed Patch, 0.esp C0 GBRsAntiCTD.esp C1 Crowded Cities 15.esp C2 NBB.esp C3 TamagoNews.esp C4 TamagoTopic.esp C5 LoversTamagoClub.esp C6 LoversHiyokoShooter.esp C7 LoversEncounter.esp C8 HiyokoQuestTarget.esp C9 HiyokoFutureDream.esp [Version y] CA HiyokoGenerator.esp CB HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp CC TamagoSetBody.esp CD LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp CE LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2] CF LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp D0 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp D1 LoversRaperS.esp D2 LoversStalkerM.esp D3 LoversStalkerMN.esp D4 LoversBed.esp D5 PlayerSlaveEncounters.esp [Version 0.694] D6 PSE-SeeYouSleepDLL.esp D7 PSE-HackdirtAlive-Patch.esp D8 LoversPayBandit.esp D9 PSE-PayBandit-Patch.esp DA Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] DB LoversBitch.esp DC PSELoversBitchPatch.esp DD LoversCreature.esp DE LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0] DF LoversSpermSplashEx.esp E0 LoversSlaveTrader.esp E1 LSTBravilUnderground.esp E2 LSTaddonInH.esp E3 LoversGGBlackmail.esp E4 LoversImmoralSisters.esp E5 LoversSituations.esp E6 LoversProstitute.esp E7 LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp E8 LoversLight.esp E9 LoversChorus.esp EA LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp EB LoversAchievments.esp EC Slof's Dogs.esp ED LandMagicPatch.esp EE DynamicLeveledLists.esp EF LoversMB2.esp F0 LoversSatisfaction.esp F1 LoversSatisfactionExtender.esp F2 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp F3 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
kingkong Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 i am not sure if you are asking anything !!! but i am sure you can still lower the amount by merging mods togather ! - using tes4edit you can merge all clothing , armor, weapons to one mod. (any mod not containing scripts can be easyly merged). 2 you need to check if all mods that change texture are replacers and in this case you can remove the esp and apply "archive invalidation ".
ljacquard Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 I had some fun with your load order, I couldn't resist picking it apart ^.^ Feel free to have a look, or ignore everything, but it might just save you some slots. PS : belated happy new year by the way. >>> merging master files (ESMs) is considered a (VERY) bad practice, don't do it 0F Oblivion Sexualized Monsters.esm>>> redundant (I think)>>> to save a slot, have a look at the latest <lovers creatures with dicks - vanilla full> by Fejeena, which is a pure mesh replacer1C All Natural.esp [Version 1.35]1D All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.35]>>> could probably be merged1E Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1]1F Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp [Version 2.01]20 Immersive Interiors - Landscape Addon.esp>>> ditto25 AliveWaters.esp26 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp27 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp>>> ditto32 Teenagers Patch.esp [Version 1.1]33 Teenagers Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.1]>>> ditto34 Children Patch.esp [Version 1.3]35 Children Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.3]>>> ditto40 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3]41 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3]>>> ditto++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp>>> shouldn't use this with <B9 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0]> >>> check OCOv2 Nexus page (the comments more specifically) >>> if you use any of Robert's Body Replacers, do not activate their esps, use only OCO's esp.45 Alluring Books.esp++ Better Unique Items.esp46 CL_Tools_and_Clutter.esp47 Dreadweave Complete_Light.esp48 EpicLifeDetectRing.esp49 Nicos Gift.esp4A Nicos Scimitars Back.esp [Version 1.61]4B sci-fi bow.esp4C Slof's Goggles.esp4D The Maeva Scribonia Collection 1.esp4E The Maeva Scribonia Collection 2.esp4F The Maeva Scribonia Collection 3.esp50 Maeva Scribonia Collection 4 Option 2 Sleazy.esp51 Immersive Weapons.esp>>> merge, merge, merge...>>> books, items, clothes, weapons, etc. are strong candidates for mergers (unless heavily scripted and with tons of dialog)52 Slof's Horses Base.esp53 Slof's Extra Horses.esp>>> could probably be mergedA1 RshAlchemy.espA2 RshAlchemyRecipes.esp>>> could probably be mergedA8 ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.espA9 ZumbsLockpickingMod - Hide Difficulty Addon.esp>>> could probably be mergedAB Denock Arrows.esp>>> redundant>>> feature already present in COBLAE Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp [Version 7.1]B0 Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.espB1 Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp [Version 4]>>> just FYI, Duke Patrick strongly discourages merging his modsB7 Kanin Race.espB8 Elves Of Lineage II.esp>>> races mods are also strong candidates to be mergedEC Slof's Dogs.esp>>> not sure if it's a good idea to overwrite LAPF with Slof's dogs>>> you'd lose at least the fleshy bits that LAPF and/or LoversBitch add to them, and there might be scripting issues (need to check)EF LoversMB2.esp>>> should probably be higher in your load order, but still under your bashed patch (I didn't go through all of your Lovers mods to see what they do or need)>>> http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/
Fienyx Posted January 19, 2015 Author Posted January 19, 2015 0F Oblivion Sexualized Monsters.esm>>> redundant (I think)>>> to save a slot, have a look at the latest <lovers creatures with dicks - vanilla full> by Fejeena, which is a pure mesh replacer This gives male and female. More variety. AB Denock Arrows.esp>>> redundant>>> feature already present in COBL When I use COBL's, I don't get the feel of actually stopping the shot. It just disappears back to the quiver. This one you see the arrow pull away. EC Slof's Dogs.esp>>> not sure if it's a good idea to overwrite LAPF with Slof's dogs>>> you'd lose at least the fleshy bits that LAPF and/or LoversBitch add to them, and there might be scripting issues (need to check) I modify a lot of my esp's. I made all the dogs added by slof have penises. Along with the wolf diversity. I used to have a ton of stuff merged, and can tell you that nico's gift and scimitars don't like to be merged. It will break the script on one. I'm going for fewer mods. Just a discussion on oblivion and mods. I used to have one mod that was a merge of 105 minor tweaks and stuff.
ljacquard Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Sounds good to me and you know what you're doing too. As I said, it was just some fun on my side, to wish you happy new year, not to impose or sound authorative ^.^
fejeena Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 25 AliveWaters.esp26 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp27 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp Yes can be merged ( i did it) Most Lovers Bitch Dogs are unique, if EC Slof's Dogs.esp replace vanilla dog and wolf meshes only 3 Dogs/wolves in the dog shop and all vanilla dog- creatures can have Problems ( no dicks) The same Problem if you use my creatures replacer with dicks ( vanilla no dicks) If Slof's Dogs adds new Dogs you can install my creatures replacer after Slof's Dogs , so the vanilla Dogs\Wolves have dicks. The same dick Problem with Slof's horses.
myuhinny Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 @fienyx What .esp/.esm's do you have in your mod folder that are not active? Ones that are not active either need to be removed from your folder or turn on auto ghosting or manually ghost them in wrye bash or those inactive .esp/.esm's can cause problems in your oblivion.
Fienyx Posted January 19, 2015 Author Posted January 19, 2015 Slofs dogs and both slofs horses I went through to make sure every dog and horse has a penis. So they work perfectly with lovers mods.The only files that aren't active are the ones in my bashed patch. If I don't have a mod active, it gets removed from my list.Here's Satan. He's normally a big black dog, but this is how he looks in my pack of modified mods.
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