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I been trying to make Oblivion look better...

 

Came to something that looked like this :

 

http://postimg.org/image/pj9erg1rx/full/

 

 

But then i did something ,i'm still not sure what....

 

http://postimg.org/image/l2e2nqk21/full/

 

http://postimg.org/image/vkypm9wad/full/

 

http://postimg.org/image/cd3t291ql/full/

 

http://postimg.org/image/z7hra2b9n/full/

 

 

What can cause such problems?

 

I been working on Oblivion for the past 4 days with barely any sleep, if i am to start from scratch i will probably go crazy.

If it's possible i would like to find the actual problem and correct it rather than starting anew.

 

Please tell me if i need to provide any more info on the condition of my Oblivion.

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Wrong texture for the head mesh.

There are different head meshes , they need different textures.

Use the right head mesh or use another texture

( sorry don't know which one you need for the textures. Check the Original Mod there should be mentioned whith head you need. Or the Mod has a head mesh)

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There were so many textures used in face changing....

 

But the problems started when i begun instaling the following mods :

 

Xeo SP++

Face Texture for High Rez Skin Textures v1_2

 

After i installed Xeo SP++, most NPCs became bald, some lost their head "not their hair or eyes or mouth, just the head" some had black hair.

 

After i installed "Face Texture for High Rez Skin Textures v1_2" is where i first saw the misplaced eye/nostril texture...

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I don't use Xeo, can't help.

But you must miss head meshes or textures.

And the High Rez Skin Textures v1_2 seems not the right for Xeo heads.

 

Here 2 head textures Placements ( the UV map grid )

post-3205-0-72651000-1420514927_thumb.jpg

You see one eyes and mouth are lower.

 

The same with bodies, you can not use Roberts female or UFF textures for HGEC Body meshes  or vice versa.

Mixing different beautification mods is hard, you must know what you are doing.

 

Hope a Xeo user can help.

 

xeo http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15185-xeo-sp/

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When i was building my list, i tried to make everything that goes with the HGEC.

 

Here's my mod list just in case :

 

 

 

GameMode=Oblivion
 
Oblivion.esm=1
Lovers with PK.esm=1
CM Partners.esm=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm=1
Better Cities Resources.esm=1
x117race.esm=1
Chanpon.esm=1
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp=1
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp=1
UOPS Additional Changes.esp=1
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp=1
DLCShiveringIsles.esp=1
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp=1
USIPS Additional Changes.esp=1
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp=1
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCThievesDen.esp=1
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp=1
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp=1
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCVileLair.esp=1
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCHorseArmor.esp=1
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCOrrery.esp=1
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCSpellTomes.esp=1
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCFrostcrag.esp=1
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
Knights.esp=1
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp=1
HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp=1
LoversBiko.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp=1
DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp=1
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp=1
EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp=1
Creature Diversity.esp=1
EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp=1
Streamline 3.1.esp=1
Lovers with PK.esp=1
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp=1
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp=1
SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp=1
Synx.esp=1
x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp=1
x117Race ENG Race.esp=1
x117race.esp=1
Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp=1
Better Cities .esp=1
LoversMB2.esp=1
Lush & Gaudy Damn Greens GC CH Tree Cull 5.esp=1
xulRiverEthe.esp=1
xulTheEasternPeaks.esp=1
xulCloudtopMountains.esp=1
xulAncientYews.esp=1
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp=1
xulLushWoodlands.esp=1
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp=1
xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp=1
xulBlackwoodForest.esp=1
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp=1
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp=1
xulChorrolHinterland.esp=1
xulArriusCreek.esp=1
ShezriesTownsMaster.esp=1
Better Cities BRAVIL.esp=1
Lush & Gaudy Damn Greens.esp=1
Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp=1
xulSnowdale.esp=1
Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp=1
xulAncientRedwoods.esp=1
xulJerallGlacier.esp=1
AliveWaters.esp=1
Lush & Gaudy FG.esp=1
xulEntiusGorge.esp=1
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp=1
Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp=1
Better Cities CHORROL.esp=1
Better Cities ANVIL.esp=1
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp=1
Better Cities BRUMA.esp=1
xulTheHeath.esp=1
Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp=1
Weapon Improvement Project.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
xuldarkforest.esp=1
HentaiMania2.esp=1
Hentai Mania.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp=1
Lop-ears Elf.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp=1
Vanilla_Race_Overhaul.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp=1
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp=1
EVE_KhajiitFix.esp=1
LoversAdultYield.esp=1
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp=1
HM2SummonCompatible.esp=1
HentaiMania2_Merged_Hell.esp=1
xulAspenWood.esp=1
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp=1
xulRollingHills_EV.esp=1
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp=1
xulStendarrValley.esp=1
xulPantherRiver.esp=1
xulImperialIsle.esp=1
GTAesgaard.esp=1
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp=1
Grass Overhaul.esp=1
CM Partners.esp=1
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp=1
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp=1
CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp=1
CM Partners More NPCs.esp=1
UVIII.esp=1
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp=1
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp=1
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp=1
CM Partners NPC NE.esp=1
LoversMagic-Japanese.esp=0
LoversMagic.esp=0
LoversRaperS.esp=1
CM Partners NPC.esp=1
SMChorrol.esp=1
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp=1
CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp=1
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp=1
CM Partner Destara.esp=1
CM Partner Franziska.esp=1
CM Partner Isabell.esp=1
CM Partner Sandra.esp=1
DANecsKarla.esp=1
xeosp++.esp=1

 
I was running the game after every mod to check if it works properly "it still may look like a mess though"
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I was looking through you load order have you cleaned your DLC's and mods with TES5EDIT? All DLC's are full of dirty edits except for shivering isle I also see HentaiMania2.esp Hentai Mania.esp the hentia mania series mods are full of tons of dirty edits and also need to be cleaned as well because dirty edits can and will cause problems in your game maybe not right away but they will. It might not be part of your problem but it is still a good idea to clean those mods and DLC's that need cleaning to prevent problems later on.

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I have cleaned all of my mods properly.

 

I was using LOOT for my load order...

 

The only warning that was left was with Custom Race Fix.esp

 

It says that i should turn it off completely and use UOF instead, i wasn't sure what that meant so i left it on.

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Is there a way for these 3 mods to coexist?

 

1. http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/34442/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Foblivion%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D34442&pUp=1

 

2. http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/39823/?

 

3. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15185-xeo-sp/

 

I need the body textures from the 1st mod, face textures from the 2nd mod and face types? for NPCs from the 3rd mod so that in the end i will have a nice BBB rough skin HGEC body. My character needs to look like in the 2nd mod while NPCs look like in the 3rd mod.

 

If i install 2nd and 3rd mods, my character looks the way i want but NPCs look like the 2nd mod.

If i add the 1st mod to the mix i get this http://postimg.org/i...l2e2nqk21/full/

 

 

EDIT: Alright, i managed to make mods 2 and 3 to work as i wanted, but i still need the BBB from mod 1 and i can't add it without the face textures getting misplaced...

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I don't use 2 and 3

But 1 adds face textures for the original game head mesh. So install it first to get the HGEC BBB Body.

Then install the other Mods and overwrite the face textures ( seems the Mods use own head meshes and textures) I do not know in what order and if you can use both .

NPCs and Player use the same textures and head meshes, so they look the same.

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I screwed myself over.....

 

Made a complete and clean modlist with proper bodies/faces/animations/sexmods/visual mods/content mods. It was all working fine until i installed Alternative Start "Arrive by boat" It seems some of the mods conflicted with a boat suddenly appearing out of nowhere and i was getting CTD everytime i tried to exit it. I didn't realize it at that time so i went and reinstalled the whole thing again...

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Could be the wrong load order ( if you still use LOOT instead of BOSS )

 

Or Mod conflict: where did you arrive ? Anvil ?   Better Cities ANVIL.esp

But does the Mod add a ship ?

I use Alternative Start Arrive by Ship by Robert Evrae and the Mod does not add a ship. You start in a ship, and if you leave it you are placed at the Harbor ,but no new ship in the Harbor.

http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/11495/?

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I am not sure what it does since i never actually got out without a CTD. What i did though is rechecked the integrity of Oblivion files through steam and now i'm readding every mod again.

 

I tried adding the Alternative start again and it had the same CTD as before, then i removed it and started normally, it worked fine and i got outside. Went into both Anvil and the Capital and both worked fine.

 

Speaking of BOSS and LOOT, i haven't noticed any differences in the load order by using both of them for comparison so, i think it's safe to assume that they both work.

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If your load order in post 5 is created with LOOT then there is a BIG difference between LOOT and BOSS. Your load order in post 5 is a mess !

See my example load order ( yellow Link below)

 

And the  Lovers Mods you must sort manually  (LOOT and BOSS does not sort Lovers Mods right )

 

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
must be the last Lovers Mods in the load order ( other Lovers Mods below will not work right !  )
 
LoversMagic-Japanese.esp
LoversMagic.esp
Are you sure you can use both ?

 

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Oh, no my mod list i a bit smaller now. 

 

 

 

GameMode=Oblivion
 
Oblivion.esm=1
Lovers with PK.esm=1
CM Partners.esm=1
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp=1
UOPS Additional Changes.esp=1
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp=1
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp=1
DLCShiveringIsles.esp=1
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp=1
USIPS Additional Changes.esp=1
Better Cities .esp=1
Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp=1
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp=1
AliveWaters.esp=1
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp=1
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp=1
Streamline 3.1.esp=1
DLCHorseArmor.esp=1
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCOrrery.esp=1
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCVileLair.esp=1
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp=1
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCSpellTomes.esp=1
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp=1
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
Weapon Improvement Project.esp=1
DLCThievesDen.esp=1
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp=1
Creature Diversity.esp=1
Hentai Mania.esp=1
SMChorrol.esp=1
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp=1
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
DLCFrostcrag.esp=1
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
Knights.esp=1
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
ShezriesTownsMaster.esp=1
xuldarkforest.esp=1
xulStendarrValley.esp=1
xulTheHeath.esp=1
xulEntiusGorge.esp=1
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp=1
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp=1
xulChorrolHinterland.esp=1
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp=1
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp=1
xulLushWoodlands.esp=1
xulAncientYews.esp=1
xulAncientRedwoods.esp=1
xulCloudtopMountains.esp=1
xulArriusCreek.esp=1
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp=1
xulRollingHills_EV.esp=1
xulPantherRiver.esp=1
xulRiverEthe.esp=1
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp=1
xulImperialIsle.esp=1
xulBlackwoodForest.esp=1
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp=1
xulAspenWood.esp=1
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp=1
xulSnowdale.esp=1
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp=1
xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp=1
xulJerallGlacier.esp=1
xulTheEasternPeaks.esp=1
Lush & Gaudy Damn Greens.esp=1
Lush & Gaudy Damn Greens GC CH Tree Cull 5.esp=1
Lush & Gaudy FG.esp=1
LoversAdultYield.esp=1
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp=1
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp=1
LoversRaperS.esp=1
LoversBiko.esp=1
Lovers with PK.esp=1
LoversMB2.esp=1
SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp=1
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp=0
Vanilla_Race_Overhaul.esp=1
CM Partners.esp=1
Synx.esp=1
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp=1
CM Partners NPC.esp=1
CM Partners NPC NE.esp=0
CM Partners More NPCs.esp=1
CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp=0
CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp=1
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp=1
CM Partner Destara.esp=1
CM Partner Isabell.esp=1
CM Partner Sandra.esp=1
CM Partner Franziska.esp=1
DANecsKarla.esp=1
UVIII.esp=1
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp=1
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp=1
xeosp++.esp=1

 
It was sorted with LOOT first "It's much easier for me to see which files need cleaning with LOOT since i'm more accustomed to it" and then it was sorted with BOSS after everything was cleaned.
 
Everything seems to work fine with occasional crashes when entering a huge open areas "exiting cities and dungeons" i guess the game can't process all of those striking visuals. I got some mods to help me save more often for that.
 
Also male on male sex animations have textures flying all over the screen but, that's to be expected since i don't need male on male animations. Just gotta find out how to turn them off completely.
 
 
EDIT: Finally this is my first ever successful modding attempt at a Bethesda game. I am so happy that i don't even wanna play the game itself now, what if something goes wrong.... 
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Also a thing to note is that this mod http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/20022/?kept screwing me over with skin textures. Sure it makes them 4k and all that stuff. But what it doesn't do, is keep the previous uhh.... overlay? 

 

For example i would install Rough Skin which looks almost real and is just beautiful, but then i install the 4k textures hoping it would blow my mind even more. It removes the rough skin and replaces it with bland "but high quality" skin textures with nothing on them, no wrinkles no nothing. Never again!

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Theres this particular crash that happens everytime. When i get into the Oblivion gate, get to a Citadel Door that usually opens with an animation, the game crashes regardless of me opening it or not. If i manage to start opening it, it will crash halfway. The Citadel Door fix.esp seem to do nothing here.

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Decided to get myself some conpanions.......

 

Installed these :

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/7819/?

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/38471/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Foblivion%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D38471&pUp=1

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/38518/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Foblivion%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D38518&pUp=1

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/35671/?

 

Whenever i take any of them with me, i get random CTDs "i have never seen a single CTD with my new mod list yet" 

 

Is there something i'm doing wrong?

 

Here's my current load order :

 

 

Oblivion.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
CM Partners.esm
RealisticLeveling.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOPS Additional Changes.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
USIPS Additional Changes.esp
Better Cities .esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
personality_idles2.esp
StandingJOJO.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
MHSNfuru.esp
Swimming Costume.esp
Veil and Dress.esp
VipCxjHHTest.esp
Weapon Improvement Project.esp
1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp
Birdy.esp
Bodysuit and Garter.esp
Neo'sFelicia.esp
Cute Leather Dress.esp
Corset Dress.esp
LDPGC.esp
Witch LongDress.esp
R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp
R18PN - Fiona Armor.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Hentai Mania.esp
SMChorrol.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
ShezriesTownsMaster.esp
HentaiMania2.esp
HentaiMania2_Merged_Hell.esp
EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
Grass Overhaul.esp
Lush & Gaudy Damn Greens.esp
Lush & Gaudy Damn Greens GC CH Tree Cull 5.esp
Lush & Gaudy FG.esp
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
LoversRaperS.esp
LoversBiko.esp
Lovers with PK.esp
LoversAdultYield.esp
bondage_sex.esp
Eroblivion.esp
Short Grass V3.esp
BasicInstinct.esp
CTAddPose_v_1.esp
CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp
actors_in_charge.esp
77_Umpa_Animation.esp
EFGAddPose.esp
shinyEmotions.esp
Slof's Sexy Anims.esp
Vanilla_Race_Overhaul.esp
CM Partners.esp
CMPartnersDecrashification.esp
Kaleencolors.esp
Synx.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CM Partners More NPCs.esp
CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
CM Partner Destara.esp
CM Partner Sandra.esp
CM Partner Isabell.esp
CM Partner Franziska.esp
EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
UVIII.esp
HM2SummonCompatible.esp
LoversMB2.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
xeosp++.esp

 
I already played through the story mode and all the factions without a single ctd and 3 freezes so..... this is the most successful load list so far. 
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Yeah, ditto on what Vaelorian posted and some seem worse than others.

 

Some work arounds: You can attempt to fix what is broken via CS/E, which is or can be very time consuming.

 

If all you want is that particular companion you can rebuild it and use MCS or Human Touch.

 

I found the GGC partner system much better, especially latter versions and some variants. GGC Valeria and Vincente Companion Revived by rMnQw36FcH There is at least one set of GGC partners here on LL, that use various races. It is not hard to then use that as a base template and simply rework the race choice and look of the partner.

 

GGC pack by Taka You CANNOT use all of these at the same time due to the same identical scripts being used for each character. There was an update to those done by another member that completly removes the scripts, allowing you to use all and control then via MCS or Human Touch.

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It's not really about a partner, i just wanted someone pretty to tag along and break the monotony of the gameplay.

 

Those GGC examples look ok, but not quite what i had in mind. 

 

Also, that Valeria follower is included in the "xeosp++.esp". Her character is renamed to "Xeo" yet when you destroy an Oblivion gate, the game says "Valeria has escaped the plane of Oblivion" and her menu is exactly the same as in the screenshot. I found her by accident, she was sitting on the road between Bruma and Cloud Ruler Temple.

 

You can actually see her here wearing nun outfit "since i made her into a healer haha" http://postimg.org/image/4cbhysd9d/full/

 

 

Oh well, guess i will just have to delete all the followers and just play normally. Thank you for your help.

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