bahamut2119 Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Normally i would bother asking about this but i'm at my wits end. I know skyrim can occasionally crash at a random location every time for a bit but im no longer thinking this is the case. The game has been ctding as soon as the town comes into view for a long time I quit skyrim and moved on to another game for awhile due to this last time but my ctding this time is in the same spot so leading me to believe there's something broken. My lo has shifted heavy since then but my best guess is there's something still there doing this. I have for testing purposes coced into the tavern with no issues but if i step outside bam done again. Currently my char is on a cursed collar quest I really wanted to play out and I have to go there for it the dam next marker is just on the other side of the town from the usual main road access point. I am gonna try 2 other things 1) wait 3 days just outside of view of the town and if that dont work try to climb over the mountains and skip going into town. If neither of these work then I know I won't even be able to complete the main quest or this dd cursed loot event without cheating something I hate doing. 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Papyrus.2.log Papyrus.3.log Papyrus.0.log
myuhinny Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Do any of the NPC's in game use a BBP/TBBP skeleton? If so check and make sure nothing has overwritten their skeleton as that will cause a CTD when you enter their cell. Maybe checking SOS and making sure the skeleton it uses hasn't been overwritten.
gvman3670 Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 There have been other posts in the past on this same issue. Can't remember the fixes, though. Try coc'ing your way into one of the college's buildings and see what happens.
germanicus Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 I haven't look deeply into your log file. Wanted to, but I'm ill and can't concentrate well. Untill someone gives you more concrete answer,maybe you can try console command "refini" - This command loads and re-applies all settings from Skyrim.ini and any .ini with filenames matching currently loaded .esp files.
bahamut2119 Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 Do any of the NPC's in game use a BBP/TBBP skeleton? If so check and make sure nothing has overwritten their skeleton as that will cause a CTD when you enter their cell. Maybe checking SOS and making sure the skeleton it uses hasn't been overwritten. Im sure my skeleton isnt the issue im using the latest xpmse version with bellisario's unpb body this is the only town i cant enter altho i did have a issue with riverwood but was fixed when i coced away from the area and reentered. There have been other posts in the past on this same issue. Can't remember the fixes, though. Try coc'ing your way into one of the college's buildings and see what happens. Ill definitely be trying this when i get to that part of the mq before I set stage it to advance past. I did try resting for 3 days then entering to no joy I ended up taking a long route though the mountains to sarthal where the next stage in the quest im on was located. I didnt get a ctd going that route lucky.
Kuロi Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Wait, does this happen to only one character or every character you make? Basically if you were to create a new character would you be able to enter Winterhold?
Spyder Arachnid Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 I had this same issue awhile back myself. Though my problem was caused by Personalized Music. The College addon to be precise. I was getting crashes all around Winterhold. After removing the College addon from Personalized Music, all my crashes stopped. Was a problem several other people were having as well and that was the solution that worked for all of us. But I didn't see Personalized Music in your list (or I missed it), so not sure what could be causing this issue for you sorry.
bahamut2119 Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 Wait, does this happen to only one character or every character you make? Basically if you were to create a new character would you be able to enter Winterhold? I could try that I think lal has a mage start but as far as i know its the same spot a pervious char crashed and even after a celll reset (slept for 3 days outside the area) I still got a ctd. EDIT: Confirmed started a new character with a mage guild start was fine at the college but second i hit the bridge boom ctd. atleast i now know i could coc into the guild to do that part of the MQ when i get to it. I had this same issue awhile back myself. Though my problem was caused by Personalized Music. The College addon to be precise. I was getting crashes all around Winterhold. After removing the College addon from Personalized Music, all my crashes stopped. Was a problem several other people were having as well and that was the solution that worked for all of us. But I didn't see Personalized Music in your list (or I missed it), so not sure what could be causing this issue for you sorry. Ya dont have the mod unfortunately it aint easy for me to test my mods every time I shut off a mod or almost every time id have to still here for 20-30 min and let patchus maxuimus rebuild the other 2 take just a few minutes.
Leo77 Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 I have a very similiar issue with Dawnstar, 1 out of 20 tries doesn't crash, i'll let you know if i ever figure out why it does that
Kuロi Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Wait, does this happen to only one character or every character you make? Basically if you were to create a new character would you be able to enter Winterhold? I could try that I think lal has a mage start but as far as i know its the same spot a pervious char crashed and even after a celll reset (slept for 3 days outside the area) I still got a ctd. EDIT: Confirmed started a new character with a mage guild start was fine at the college but second i hit the bridge boom ctd. atleast i now know i could coc into the guild to do that part of the MQ when i get to it. Alright this proves that the actual conflict comes from a mod, the question is which. At this point your best bet is removing one mod at a time that you think might be conflicting (or not, sometimes it's the randomest mods). And rather than LaL, if you, say, "coc whiterun" from the main menu, the game will automatically create a generic character for you and start from there. Then it's as easy as using "tmm 1" to toggle all map makers and going straight to the college to test it out. Makes testing stuff much easier when you want to do it fast.
bahamut2119 Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 I will prob try testing disabling every mod (well almost every one) and cocing winterhold sometime tonight possibly gonna be a pita im running 249 actives but if i do say 10 or so then take a break to really play i should be able to get through it all someday. Im just not looking forward to it at all after all i just wanna play.
Kuロi Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 I will prob try testing disabling every mod (well almost every one) and cocing winterhold sometime tonight possibly gonna be a pita im running 249 actives but if i do say 10 or so then take a break to really play i should be able to get through it all someday. Im just not looking forward to it at all after all i just wanna play. I feel you there. It's pretty easy to do, but you simply go crazy if you do it for too long.
bahamut2119 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Posted December 27, 2014 Finally getting this hunt done enabling batches of mods marking off the last loaded in a text document loading a alt save i did using LAL college start. On another note I recently discovered every single child is missing in game so hunting for that issue to thinking there was a issue hen i cleaned one or more of the skyrim .esms as per i just ran though whiterun and didnt see a kid anywhere...
bahamut2119 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Posted December 28, 2014 Finally tracked it down to SkyrimImmersionPatch.esp triple checking it now y enabling everything but that gonna try and see if theres a fix if not oh well the extra fires were nice in some area but I can live without to. EDIT: Confirmed this mod is conflicting with another of mine bad in the winterhold area I was using a older version I updated for a test and still ctded so good bye nice warm fires in cold regions that ain't there by default or placed by me.
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