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So, back again with another issue.

 

I got my modlist set up and going, managed to start a new game and play for several hours without issue. Quit the game to do other things and when I came back the next day, not only would it not allow me to load my save game, but I can't start a new game either as it immediately CTDs. This also occurs if I try to use the Continue option or load from a previous save file.

 

 

I've done the following to try and figure out why but nothing has come back with an issue I can see.

TESV Edit to check for missing masters and such

LOOT to see if something was moved around

Rebuilt my FNIS and Dual Sheath patches

Manually scanned through the MO Data folder to try and find any issues that I recognized.

Did a file check through Steam then reran hardware detection and re-checked my ENB installation.

 

I'm stumped why this suddenly decided to refuse working.

 

Edited to add Modlist below

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
hdtHighHeel.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
AemersRefuge.esm
SPERG.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
Xvision Children.esm
EB-Races.esm
Deus Mons.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
LB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
moonpath.esm
GeneralStores.esm
AMatterOfTime.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
ArgonianMercArmor.esp
Mannequin.esp
CraftableCloudStorage(GS).esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
Dr_BandolierDG.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
ArvakUndeadFix.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp
LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
DiverseHorses.esp
ProperWeaponScale.esp
SplashofRain.esp
ENB Snow FX.esp
RaceMenu.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
SPERG.esp
SexLab Cumshot.esp
Behemoth Dragon.esp
ETaC - Falkreath.esp
ETaC - Morthal.esp
ETaC - Dawnstar.esp
RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp
More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp
enbweather.esp
KJ Tattoos 4K.esp
RaceMenuOverlays.esp
SPERG Weapon Styles.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
WWW.esp
NewmillerPiercingsUNPB.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
ETaC - Winterhold.esp
ETaC - Rorikstead.esp
ETaC - Riverwood.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
Deus Mons_WithNPCs.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Konahriks Privilege by Edhelsereg.esp
MarshArmor.esp
LC_BecomeJarlofIvarstead.esp
ETaC - Kynesgrove.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
CWINPCApachiiSkyHair.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp
NixHoundVigilance.esp
PrinceandPauper.esp
Xvision Children - PaP.esp
HearthfireMultikid_PNP Patch.esp
SPERG Best Friend Whistle.esp
SexLab Enchantress.esp
Undeath.esp
AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
ESFCompanions.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Lurking in the shadows.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
ETaC - Karthwasten.esp
ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp
Druidessentials.esp
ArcheryDummyXP.esp
ETaC - Karthwasten ELFX Patch.esp
SexLab Submit.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
TwinSouls4.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
SexLabWerewolves.esp
SkyUI.esp
SkyTweak.esp
AchieveThat.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
TradeBarter.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
Predator Vision.esp
WetandCold.esp
mjhCulturalDiversity - Khajiit Clothes Wet and Cold.esp
Xvision Children - Complete.esp
Babette.esp
iHUD.esp
skyrim unbound.esp
ETaC - Kynesgrove ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC - Winterhold ELFX Patch.esp
MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp
Immersive Stonehills.esp
Equipment Merge.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
DGBetterFamiliar.esp
DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp
LakeviewManorWalls.esp
TheFrontier.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
DragonmournInn.esp
Cloaks.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Followers Merge.esp
ETaC - Morthal ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC - Dawnstar ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC - Falkreath ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC - Rorikstead ELFX Patch.esp
Skippy's Book Overhaul.esp
Hearthfire Girls.esp
LykaiosRace.esp
Immersive Shors Stone.esp
LC_immersiveLoot.esp
AliciaPainSlut.esp
AliciaFollower.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
TheDomain.esp
LB_MuchAdoSnowElves_Quest.esp
Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp
AdalMatar.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
Valdmire.esp
LCJarofIvarsteadExpansionGirlsPack.esp
ETaC - Riverwood ELFX Patch.esp
NorthernCardinal.esp
konahrik_accoutrements.esp
Summonable Shadowmere.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
mjhCulturalDiversity - Merged.esp
Jenassa.esp
Vjarkell Castle.esp
ETaC - Falkreath Moon Patch.esp
AemersRefuge-DG-DB.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
DA_Skyship.esp
DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
ELFX - Moonpath.esp
MissingApprentices.esp
Midas Magic Expanded.esp
Champion of Kynareth.esp
CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp
MME SPERG Patch.esp
ETaC - Falskaar Patch.esp
MechaDragons - Guardians of Kagrenzel.esp
MiasLair.esp
00xLolitaFollower.esp
FNISspells.esp
Forgotten Tomb.esp
AV1Dragon_Lords.esp
Hunterborn.esp
[MPX] NPC Gender Race Heights +Dawnguard.esp
NorthernCardinal_Falskaar.esp
NorthernCardinal_Wyrmstooth.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp
torches for realistic lighting.esp
tumbamounts.esp
Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
Dwemer Certified.esp
Dwemer SPERGified.esp
Wolf Master.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Apocalypse - SPERG Compatibility Patch.esp
Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
Ja'khiri and Guild Duelist Armor.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
Wrath Of Nature.esp
BurriedStachRiverwood.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Convenient Horse Herding.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

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I find the autosave function frequently creates saves which won't load when the game is heavily modded. Thus have it disabled and save regularly, keeping about a dozen saves and resaving over the oldest one each time.

 

I think i've read that this saves which won't load (crash on loading them) are caused by a script overload issue. A solution I found on another thread here is to load a relatively empty save area, such as the "live another life" mod prison cell at the start (so start a new game or load an early save). Then after about 30 seconds, you can hit the menu again and reload the save that wouldn't load. I just keep the prison cell save from the start of my playthrough to use for this purpose.

 

Might work for you, might not. I rarely get it now that i've installed the "safety load" mod. It is supposedly included in another mod (racemenu i think), but installing it seperately made a lot of difference for me, seriously reduced the constant load screen issue as well.

 

The CTD on new game thought sounds like a missing ESM.

 

Oh, and as i've not counted them - you're not trying to run more than 254 mods are you?

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I try to keep it below 250 as well... I generally fail (254 atm). Sure i read that it can be increased to 512... but not foudn instructions so I've put it down as a myth ;)

 

It's CTD on a new profile? A blank one or a copy of your other profile? With the same save games, or no save games?

 

Don't think the below is relevant, was meant in reference to another thread :D Got confused as to which one I was replying to.

 

 

You didn't mention if you have FNIS... FNIS is a requirement for Sexlab. If you don't have it installed, and run it prior to loading (run through MO like you're running SKSE) then it will CTD. There is an install guide on Youtube.

 

 

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Yeah, I have FNIS. Even rebuilt the patch just to be sure. :P

 

I'm going back to some of my previous profiles, I rebuilt my modlist in stages because I was trying to track down a problem mod which lead to one that seemed to be improperly installed but the problems now aren't the same as before.

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Random thoughts:

- Have you installed any new mods recently that might have caused a conflict. Like two body mods, or two weather altering mods.

- Everything up to date? For example I re-built my mod list last week, and just realised today i'd installed an old version of racemenu. (wondered where the options had gone). Seem to find a couple of mods each week on here that get updated.

 

 

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I was doing updates to various mods as updated the list. But managed to get them to work.

 

I've found one duplicate on an NPC, but that didn't clear up the problem.

 

I'm probably going to have to find a version that works and start rebuilding from there. Looks like another three day project for me. lol

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So, back again with another issue.

 

I got my modlist set up and going, managed to start a new game and play for several hours without issue. Quit the game to do other things and when I came back the next day, not only would it not allow me to load my save game, but I can't start a new game either as it immediately CTDs. This also occurs if I try to use the Continue option or load from a previous save file.

 

 

I've done the following to try and figure out why but nothing has come back with an issue I can see.

TESV Edit to check for missing masters and such

LOOT to see if something was moved around

Rebuilt my FNIS and Dual Sheath patches

Manually scanned through the MO Data folder to try and find any issues that I recognized.

Did a file check through Steam then reran hardware detection and re-checked my ENB installation.

 

I'm stumped why this suddenly decided to refuse working.

 

Edited to add Modlist below

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Falskaar.esm

Wyrmstooth.esp

hdtHighHeel.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

AemersRefuge.esm

SPERG.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

Xvision Children.esm

EB-Races.esm

Deus Mons.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

LB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

moonpath.esm

GeneralStores.esm

AMatterOfTime.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

ArgonianMercArmor.esp

Mannequin.esp

CraftableCloudStorage(GS).esp

FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

Dr_BandolierDG.esp

MoreNastyCritters.esp

ArvakUndeadFix.esp

The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp

LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp

Animated Dragon Wings.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

DiverseHorses.esp

ProperWeaponScale.esp

SplashofRain.esp

ENB Snow FX.esp

RaceMenu.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

SPERG.esp

SexLab Cumshot.esp

Behemoth Dragon.esp

ETaC - Falkreath.esp

ETaC - Morthal.esp

ETaC - Dawnstar.esp

RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp

More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp

More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp

enbweather.esp

KJ Tattoos 4K.esp

RaceMenuOverlays.esp

SPERG Weapon Styles.esp

Footprints.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

WWW.esp

NewmillerPiercingsUNPB.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

ETaC - Winterhold.esp

ETaC - Rorikstead.esp

ETaC - Riverwood.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Helgen Reborn.esp

Deus Mons_WithNPCs.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Konahriks Privilege by Edhelsereg.esp

MarshArmor.esp

LC_BecomeJarlofIvarstead.esp

ETaC - Kynesgrove.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

CWINPCApachiiSkyHair.esp

HearthfireMultiKid.esp

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp

NixHoundVigilance.esp

PrinceandPauper.esp

Xvision Children - PaP.esp

HearthfireMultikid_PNP Patch.esp

SPERG Best Friend Whistle.esp

SexLab Enchantress.esp

Undeath.esp

AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp

Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp

ESFCompanions.esp

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

CWIELnFXPatch.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

Lurking in the shadows.esp

Immersive Whiterun.esp

Immersive Solstheim.esp

ETaC - Karthwasten.esp

ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp

Druidessentials.esp

ArcheryDummyXP.esp

ETaC - Karthwasten ELFX Patch.esp

SexLab Submit.esp

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp

TwinSouls4.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

SexLabWerewolves.esp

SkyUI.esp

SkyTweak.esp

AchieveThat.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

TradeBarter.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

Predator Vision.esp

WetandCold.esp

mjhCulturalDiversity - Khajiit Clothes Wet and Cold.esp

Xvision Children - Complete.esp

Babette.esp

iHUD.esp

skyrim unbound.esp

ETaC - Kynesgrove ELFX Patch.esp

ETaC - Winterhold ELFX Patch.esp

MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp

Immersive Stonehills.esp

Equipment Merge.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

HentaiCreatures.esp

DGBetterFamiliar.esp

DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp

LakeviewManorWalls.esp

TheFrontier.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

DragonmournInn.esp

Cloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

Followers Merge.esp

ETaC - Morthal ELFX Patch.esp

ETaC - Dawnstar ELFX Patch.esp

ETaC - Falkreath ELFX Patch.esp

ETaC - Rorikstead ELFX Patch.esp

Skippy's Book Overhaul.esp

Hearthfire Girls.esp

LykaiosRace.esp

Immersive Shors Stone.esp

LC_immersiveLoot.esp

AliciaPainSlut.esp

AliciaFollower.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

TheDomain.esp

LB_MuchAdoSnowElves_Quest.esp

Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp

AdalMatar.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

moonpath_questdata.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

Valdmire.esp

LCJarofIvarsteadExpansionGirlsPack.esp

ETaC - Riverwood ELFX Patch.esp

NorthernCardinal.esp

konahrik_accoutrements.esp

Summonable Shadowmere.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

mjhCulturalDiversity - Merged.esp

Jenassa.esp

Vjarkell Castle.esp

ETaC - Falkreath Moon Patch.esp

AemersRefuge-DG-DB.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

DA_Skyship.esp

DungeonQuestAwareness.esp

ELFX - Moonpath.esp

MissingApprentices.esp

Midas Magic Expanded.esp

Champion of Kynareth.esp

CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp

MME SPERG Patch.esp

ETaC - Falskaar Patch.esp

MechaDragons - Guardians of Kagrenzel.esp

MiasLair.esp

00xLolitaFollower.esp

FNISspells.esp

Forgotten Tomb.esp

AV1Dragon_Lords.esp

Hunterborn.esp

[MPX] NPC Gender Race Heights +Dawnguard.esp

NorthernCardinal_Falskaar.esp

NorthernCardinal_Wyrmstooth.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp

torches for realistic lighting.esp

tumbamounts.esp

Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp

Dwemer Certified.esp

Dwemer SPERGified.esp

Wolf Master.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp

DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

Apocalypse - SPERG Compatibility Patch.esp

Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp

Ja'khiri and Guild Duelist Armor.esp

My Home Is Your Home.esp

Wrath Of Nature.esp

BurriedStachRiverwood.esp

ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp

Convenient Horse Herding.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

 

Too many mods.

 

The game engine is stressed. If you create a new game... and cut that in half.. don't matter which mods.. you might find that your game runs again. you can do the same with other mods and see the same results. The engine cannot handle all that data and when something hangs.. it crashes.

 

If you are more advanced user. You can try to create  a patch for the mods. (less fighting between the mods) Combine the armor/Weapons esps together to one mod.. and lower the textures or user a lighter ENB if you are using one if the above statement is too much to try now and you want / need to keep most of the mods in the list. It might work to varying degrees.

 

 

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So, back again with another issue.

 

I got my modlist set up and going, managed to start a new game and play for several hours without issue. Quit the game to do other things and when I came back the next day, not only would it not allow me to load my save game, but I can't start a new game either as it immediately CTDs. This also occurs if I try to use the Continue option or load from a previous save file.

 

 

I've done the following to try and figure out why but nothing has come back with an issue I can see.

TESV Edit to check for missing masters and such

LOOT to see if something was moved around

Rebuilt my FNIS and Dual Sheath patches

Manually scanned through the MO Data folder to try and find any issues that I recognized.

Did a file check through Steam then reran hardware detection and re-checked my ENB installation.

 

I'm stumped why this suddenly decided to refuse working.

 

Edited to add Modlist below

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
hdtHighHeel.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
AemersRefuge.esm
SPERG.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
Xvision Children.esm
EB-Races.esm
Deus Mons.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
LB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
moonpath.esm
GeneralStores.esm
AMatterOfTime.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
ArgonianMercArmor.esp
Mannequin.esp
CraftableCloudStorage(GS).esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
Dr_BandolierDG.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
ArvakUndeadFix.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp
LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
DiverseHorses.esp
ProperWeaponScale.esp
SplashofRain.esp
ENB Snow FX.esp
RaceMenu.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
SPERG.esp
SexLab Cumshot.esp
Behemoth Dragon.esp
ETaC - Falkreath.esp
ETaC - Morthal.esp
ETaC - Dawnstar.esp
RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp
More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp
enbweather.esp
KJ Tattoos 4K.esp
RaceMenuOverlays.esp
SPERG Weapon Styles.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
WWW.esp
NewmillerPiercingsUNPB.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
ETaC - Winterhold.esp
ETaC - Rorikstead.esp
ETaC - Riverwood.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
Deus Mons_WithNPCs.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Konahriks Privilege by Edhelsereg.esp
MarshArmor.esp
LC_BecomeJarlofIvarstead.esp
ETaC - Kynesgrove.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
CWINPCApachiiSkyHair.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp
NixHoundVigilance.esp
PrinceandPauper.esp
Xvision Children - PaP.esp
HearthfireMultikid_PNP Patch.esp
SPERG Best Friend Whistle.esp
SexLab Enchantress.esp
Undeath.esp
AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
ESFCompanions.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Lurking in the shadows.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
ETaC - Karthwasten.esp
ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp
Druidessentials.esp
ArcheryDummyXP.esp
ETaC - Karthwasten ELFX Patch.esp
SexLab Submit.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
TwinSouls4.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
SexLabWerewolves.esp
SkyUI.esp
SkyTweak.esp
AchieveThat.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
TradeBarter.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
Predator Vision.esp
WetandCold.esp
mjhCulturalDiversity - Khajiit Clothes Wet and Cold.esp
Xvision Children - Complete.esp
Babette.esp
iHUD.esp
skyrim unbound.esp
ETaC - Kynesgrove ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC - Winterhold ELFX Patch.esp
MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp
Immersive Stonehills.esp
Equipment Merge.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
DGBetterFamiliar.esp
DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp
LakeviewManorWalls.esp
TheFrontier.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
DragonmournInn.esp
Cloaks.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Followers Merge.esp
ETaC - Morthal ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC - Dawnstar ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC - Falkreath ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC - Rorikstead ELFX Patch.esp
Skippy's Book Overhaul.esp
Hearthfire Girls.esp
LykaiosRace.esp
Immersive Shors Stone.esp
LC_immersiveLoot.esp
AliciaPainSlut.esp
AliciaFollower.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
TheDomain.esp
LB_MuchAdoSnowElves_Quest.esp
Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp
AdalMatar.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
Valdmire.esp
LCJarofIvarsteadExpansionGirlsPack.esp
ETaC - Riverwood ELFX Patch.esp
NorthernCardinal.esp
konahrik_accoutrements.esp
Summonable Shadowmere.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
mjhCulturalDiversity - Merged.esp
Jenassa.esp
Vjarkell Castle.esp
ETaC - Falkreath Moon Patch.esp
AemersRefuge-DG-DB.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
DA_Skyship.esp
DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
ELFX - Moonpath.esp
MissingApprentices.esp
Midas Magic Expanded.esp
Champion of Kynareth.esp
CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp
MME SPERG Patch.esp
ETaC - Falskaar Patch.esp
MechaDragons - Guardians of Kagrenzel.esp
MiasLair.esp
00xLolitaFollower.esp
FNISspells.esp
Forgotten Tomb.esp
AV1Dragon_Lords.esp
Hunterborn.esp
[MPX] NPC Gender Race Heights +Dawnguard.esp
NorthernCardinal_Falskaar.esp
NorthernCardinal_Wyrmstooth.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp
torches for realistic lighting.esp
tumbamounts.esp
Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
Dwemer Certified.esp
Dwemer SPERGified.esp
Wolf Master.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Apocalypse - SPERG Compatibility Patch.esp
Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
Ja'khiri and Guild Duelist Armor.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
Wrath Of Nature.esp
BurriedStachRiverwood.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Convenient Horse Herding.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

 

Too many mods.

 

The game engine is stressed. If you create a new game... and cut that in half.. don't matter which mods.. you might find that your game runs again. you can do the same with other mods and see the same results. The engine cannot handle all that data and when something hangs.. it crashes.

 

If you are more advanced user. You can try to create  a patch for the mods. (less fighting between the mods) Combine the armor/Weapons esps together to one mod.. and lower the textures or user a lighter ENB if you are using one if the above statement is too much to try now and you want / need to keep most of the mods in the list. It might work to varying degrees.

 

 

 

 

I run 254 mods, but had to cut a load of the overhaul type mods I was running such as frostfall, immersive patrols. I now run a higher percentage of simple mods such as armour/follower/weapons and limit the overhauls to the best (imo, like SL, DD, an armour overhaul and an ENB) and my game is a lot more stable overall.

Maybe cut a few, and run different profiles for different game aspects.

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Yes that might help.. Keep in mind that the Gambro engine isn't the most stable of the bunch. I have an 8 core processor. 16 gigs of ram multiple SSDs and a 670 and I can also run games close to 250 or so esps.. However.. there is a risk of errors and strange effects. Missing textures ( if you have heavy textures ) or features and even conversations. Errors don't always mean CTD. Missing quest starts and the such. Many contribute that to a bad game created however if you lighten the stress.. those issues seem to slow or even stop.

 

I have pretty much filled my Skyrim with most of what I want for a few game plays and will start playing with some other options in another profile (MO) and remove some that isn't quite so important for that play through. If you look through the mod you are using and what you are doing you also likely will find some not so important.

 

By the way.. I rarely have a CTD with Skyrim.. Fallout NV. or even Fallout 3.. Oblivion I do .. however I haven't played that much  so I haven't refined the mods or such to be stable. Don't know the sweet spot for my computer and mods list. Each computer, list is unique as is the person playing the game.. choices and order of completion of quest etc.

 

Modding don't seem so much a science as more of an art form now adays..

 

Hope some ideas I have given you helps. Others might be able to help you condense the mods that are able to be merged and such. Useful for those base setups .. mods that are a must for every game. ;)

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I'd like to merge some more files together. I have a few magic based mods since I like to use magic a lot. There is also some that require certain equipment be installed and I wonder if I couldn't merge it all together and for it to work, but I'm probably a moderate skill level for modding, enough to do a lot trouble shooting and stuff on my own, but not enough knowledge to go in and start fiddling with the actual files and stuff in the CK or something.

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My understanding and keep in mind that i haven't done it myself but likely will soon enough... I might have about the same level of understanding you do.

 

Keep the mods to mods that only have item not scripts. Scripts or quests etc can get messed up badly. See the game will merge them but if the id's etc are identical between two mods these ids and such will get renamed. This will mean that a script won't see the items quest etc that it is expecting potentially causing strange issues or even CTD.

 

here is some reading

 

http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Merging_Plugins

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Thank you. I'll put it on my to read list.

 

@Verkan. I hope you do get it fixed/working again. Part of the trouble is most of the really interesting mods here are beta/WIP. There is always the chance that they will break save games.

Because of that - I've taken to starting a game, and concentratint on trying a few mods out. Using the console commands as I need to, to boost levels or get items I want such as gold. It makes the save less valuable (hard to lose) in case I have to trash it. Also it is helping me learn more about hwo the game is built, as I plan to try mod making at some point.

 

I have a base profile in mod organizer with just the ENB setup on it, to make for a quicker rebuild.

 

Yesterday I learnt how to open locked doors with the console! Which makes the prison overhaul mod less buggy as I can open doors the guards get stuck at :)

 

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If I remember correctly safety load isn't needed because I believe it is already included in the new RaceMenu plugin.

 

The more mods that you add that use scripts or high script using mods the more chance to have problems in  game and if you turned any of those off their can be still scripts left in the save from the one/ones that you turned off. You might be able to clean a save to remove scripts that are still there.  

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You should be able to start a new game even with a heavy script load, at a minimum you should be able to get through character creation. The most common cause I had seen for crashing at start of a new game was not having the proper skeleton for the male body, either something is overwritten the male skeleton or the prisoner clothes and they are no longer compatible (I am betting it is the skeleton).

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Just an update. I trimmed my mod list down to about 160, but I'm still having the same issues. Its becoming a real headscratcher and I'm beginning to start looking at Hardware issues, since I used to be able to run a high mod load before while using NMM. I hate to go back to it, because I am loving the control that MO offers me but it might be my only option if I want to play the game again.

 

Edit: So apparently a complete reinstall of Skyrim fixed the problem. Somehow the base program must have been affected somehow and it just wouldn't load anymore or something. Thanks for all the help folks.

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