Alpia Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 I know that 8gb is your system ram enb uses the ram to "outscource" stress from your vram over your motherboard to the ram so a good motherboard is required to if you want it to work well there is a lot of traffic in your system if the vram and ram is shared. 8gb is enough for gaming especially stuff like skyrim take a look at your ram usage and 16gb or more is used for graphic rendering etc. so you don't really need it, but this also depends on the stuff you have running with your skyrim like your system whatever tools browser etc. they obviously all need ram so well if you don't want to close everything more ram is allways good also since it dosen't cost that much, but again not required if your ram usage is in the limit. I personally use the 4096MB Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 WindForce 3X card and I will after looking through the stat sheet defenetly not buy the 9xx series until the improved their stuff. If I would be you I would wait until some better releases if this 1gb vram is really worth the hassle and the money I can't really tell you.
Tepi Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 Having skyrim on ssd and disabling preloads in enb really helped a lot with load times and overall memory usage. And thats with only 2gb vram. If you are going to upgrade something, ssd might be the cheapest option. Also you really want it for faster OS performance.
enchiwhatever Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 save and load before and after heavily scripted events, fast travel, load doors, beast form transformations. and when i start a play session i start with the first save after all mcm menus are loaded (even after the ones that require a save load), then the save i want to play, then i save load after that too. it never crashes or freezes anymore unless i do something really dumb or forget. that and the tes edit patch included into the bashed patch. and i use wrye bash to make sure of my load order after sorting. oh ya my computers like 10 years old. so... anybody can do this. lol
Nazgren Posted September 21, 2014 Author Posted September 21, 2014 My motherboard is the Asus Crosshair v Formula z so im certainly not lacking in that regard. In all honesty I really don't understand why your install is causing performance drops as described mate your card is perfectly fine I dont feel i have stressed enough just how heavily modded my skyrim is. My texture folder alone is 22.3 gb. i have replaced absolutely every texture, with the vast majority of them being 4k or even higher, the rest 2k. I have what is quite possibly the most resource intensive ENB there is. I have roughly 200 mods installed including a big bashed patch, with most of them being further graphical enhancements or script heavy mods. Yes, my GPU is one of the best renditions of an absolute beast of a card getting 8k on the 15 minute benchmark on furmark, however its still sat at 100% usage of both core clock and vram, which isn't a great place for a GPU to be. Of course the 970 isnt as good as ours, its not a real gaming GPU. The 980 however is different. IIRC my GPU is factory overclocked to about 140% of its reference model speed. The 980 reference model has a faster clock before overclocking and more vram. It blows our cards out the water. If gigabyte or whoever can overclock it to the same extent as mine then it will go to about 1440 (give or take) mhz. That's insane! That makes the core pretty much fast enough to be a CPU for vanilla skyrim. I dont belive an SSD will help me in this case, like i said, my GPU simply cannot process the data fast enough. Even furmark doesnt push it as hard, and furmark is renown for destroying cards! Preload definitely helps load times, but I'm more concerned with the camera turn stuttering, which disabling pre load to vram increases massively. Unless there is some mod or setting i am missing to help the game run faster or there is a way to add more vram to my card i think the only way to get my current set up running is with a new card. I obviously wouldn't buy a reference 980, i would wait for the OC windforce version. I probably wouldn't be able to buy it till after christmas so theres plenty of time for it to be released. I suppose i will need to wait until closer to the time to see how to proceed. Edit: Just had a walk around whiterun for a bit, my system ram usage sits around 6.8-6.85/8 gb. My cpu doesnt go above 5%? How can that be? Is there any way to boost the cpu usage to remove some strain from the GPU?
CliftonJD Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 My motherboard is the Asus Crosshair v Formula z so im certainly not lacking in that regard. In all honesty I really don't understand why your install is causing performance drops as described mate your card is perfectly fine I dont feel i have stressed enough just how heavily modded my skyrim is. My texture folder alone is 22.3 gb. i have replaced absolutely every texture, with the vast majority of them being 4k or even higher, the rest 2k. I have what is quite possibly the most resource intensive ENB there is. I have roughly 200 mods installed including a big bashed patch, with most of them being further graphical enhancements or script heavy mods. Yes, my GPU is one of the best renditions of an absolute beast of a card getting 8k on the 15 minute benchmark on furmark, however its still sat at 100% usage of both core clock and vram, which isn't a great place for a GPU to be. Of course the 970 isnt as good as ours, its not a real gaming GPU. The 980 however is different. IIRC my GPU is factory overclocked to about 140% of its reference model speed. The 980 reference model has a faster clock before overclocking and more vram. It blows our cards out the water. If gigabyte or whoever can overclock it to the same extent as mine then it will go to about 1440 (give or take) mhz. That's insane! That makes the core pretty much fast enough to be a CPU for vanilla skyrim. I dont belive an SSD will help me in this case, like i said, my GPU simply cannot process the data fast enough. Even furmark doesnt push it as hard, and furmark is renown for destroying cards! Preload definitely helps load times, but I'm more concerned with the camera turn stuttering, which disabling pre load to vram increases massively. Unless there is some mod or setting i am missing to help the game run faster or there is a way to add more vram to my card i think the only way to get my current set up running is with a new card. I obviously wouldn't buy a reference 980, i would wait for the OC windforce version. I probably wouldn't be able to buy it till after christmas so theres plenty of time for it to be released. I suppose i will need to wait until closer to the time to see how to proceed. should check for background programs running like antiviruses and such and close them to free up memory until you can afford the upgrade, i've found things like norton can affect performance as well on systems less than 16g ram
Alpia Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 My motherboard is the Asus Crosshair v Formula z so im certainly not lacking in that regard. In all honesty I really don't understand why your install is causing performance drops as described mate your card is perfectly fine I dont feel i have stressed enough just how heavily modded my skyrim is. My texture folder alone is 22.3 gb. i have replaced absolutely every texture, with the vast majority of them being 4k or even higher, the rest 2k. I have what is quite possibly the most resource intensive ENB there is. I have roughly 200 mods installed including a big bashed patch, with most of them being further graphical enhancements or script heavy mods. Yes, my GPU is one of the best renditions of an absolute beast of a card getting 8k on the 15 minute benchmark on furmark, however its still sat at 100% usage of both core clock and vram, which isn't a great place for a GPU to be. Of course the 970 isnt as good as ours, its not a real gaming GPU. The 980 however is different. IIRC my GPU is factory overclocked to about 140% of its reference model speed. The 980 reference model has a faster clock before overclocking and more vram. It blows our cards out the water. If gigabyte or whoever can overclock it to the same extent as mine then it will go to about 1440 (give or take) mhz. That's insane! That makes the core pretty much fast enough to be a CPU for vanilla skyrim. I dont belive an SSD will help me in this case, like i said, my GPU simply cannot process the data fast enough. Even furmark doesnt push it as hard, and furmark is renown for destroying cards! Preload definitely helps load times, but I'm more concerned with the camera turn stuttering, which disabling pre load to vram increases massively. Unless there is some mod or setting i am missing to help the game run faster or there is a way to add more vram to my card i think the only way to get my current set up running is with a new card. I obviously wouldn't buy a reference 980, i would wait for the OC windforce version. I probably wouldn't be able to buy it till after christmas so theres plenty of time for it to be released. I suppose i will need to wait until closer to the time to see how to proceed. Edit: Just had a walk around whiterun for a bit, my system ram usage sits around 6.8-6.85/8 gb. My cpu doesnt go above 5%? How can that be? Is there any way to boost the cpu usage to remove some strain from the GPU? My texture folder alone is 24gb like I said with your system specs you should run your skyrim fine my skyrim overall is 42gb with 331 mods active so I understand how heavy modded your skyrim is well I have 1gb vram more, but beside that our systems seem quite similar. A SSD will help with loading times, but nothing else. Walking around whiterun causes no cpu usage and what fills up your ram is everything in the ugrids that gets loaded thats why its called ram it is nothing else than a memory where stuff gets saved for fast access I don't know any way to manage manually what gets callculated on the cpu and what on the gpu.
Nazgren Posted September 21, 2014 Author Posted September 21, 2014 My overall skyrim is 62 gb. How can you have skyrim run more then 250 mods? I cant see a bashed patch holding 81 mods O.o If your right then there must be a setting that needs to be changed. Would upping these make any difference? iMaxMemoryPageSize=512 iMinMemoryPageSize=128 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=1048576 Apparently using +fullproc could help with cpu usage but it doesnt work with skse
Alpia Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 My overall skyrim is 62 gb. How can you have skyrim run more then 250 mods? I cant see a bashed patch holding 81 mods O.o If your right then there must be a setting that needs to be changed. Would upping these make any difference? iMaxMemoryPageSize=512 iMinMemoryPageSize=128 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=1048576 Apparently using +fullproc could help with cpu usage but it doesnt work with skse I have nearly all my armor in one single file the soft cap is btw. 255 above 325 mods wyre bash starts suggests ghosting, but never try I try to stay within the 255. Don't know if these files would make a diffrence, but if you don't know what you are changing backup the stuff. Thats my "biggest" merged plugin: Merged Plugin: kuzak-bodyandstockings.esp SleekSteel_StandAlone.esp ArmorEbonyRanger.esp Blade and Soul Negligee.esp NightmareByNausicaa.esp yurica_chevaleresse [HDT].esp Fizban007Tohsaka.esp Aradia Living Armour.esp Arngrim_Evening_Dress.esp NewlynaArmor.esp DF_T21.esp ProType - Rocco.esp BBP_BunnyGirl.esp NewmillerDarkVampKnight.esp Cute Frills.esp SexyVest.esp Blade and Soul Qipao.esp DF_T17.esp ElvenScout.esp KURESEMizugi.esp MashupUNP.esp Alduin Bikini.esp Neo'sTinaByNausicaa.esp Fancy Dress.esp SkimpyAssassins.esp numenume elf ear.esp Edhildils Dark Brotherhood Gear.esp Aradia Kato Outfit.esp ly ff13lb.esp SnakeArmor.esp Kaine Outfit.esp PLCS - UNPB BBP.esp Legendary.esp LightningArmor13-2.esp NalimCatsuit1.esp NewVampChainsCuirass.esp Onechanbara Kagura Set.esp Northgirl.esp df_t11.esp Aradia Lace Dress.esp RB0102.esp RedSamurai.esp RogueCoutureMashup.esp S&D crow.esp SantaRobes.esp Sayaka_Suit.esp TS_RogueOutfits2.esp SexyKunoichi2ndByNausicaa.esp royal_daedric.esp SoulArmor_1.0.esp Red Vipers Racing Swimsuit.esp EliteRogueArmour.esp LightBladesArmor.esp Vampiric Knight.esp ShellBondage - Bombshell.esp Shocky's Latex Outfit.esp fox22 Armor.esp fox24 Armor.esp fox25 Armor.esp fox26 Armor.esp fox28 Armor.esp fox38 Armor.esp fox32 Armor.esp KERESECollection.esp HentaiCasualKarliah.esp WestWindAssault.esp R18pn - lingerie Set.esp Davjes_SorceressArmorHHS.esp Darklilith.esp Blades Hakama.esp Neo's Selene.esp NewmCBBELO1.esp R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp Ursine Armor Pack.esp yurica_slayer [HDT].esp Aradia Living Armor JE.esp BBD_CatsuitSpearhead.esp Katarina Armor.esp Insanity'sServatorMashup.esp Cassandra Armor.esp IcyV 19092187.esp Diana Allers Dress.esp Samus Suit.esp Harley Quinn.esp Catwoman Suit.esp Hentai's Dark Rose Set.esp
Nazgren Posted September 21, 2014 Author Posted September 21, 2014 Ah, the only armors i have installed iirc is turbosnowys and immersive armors. I dont suppose anyone can see any issues with my mod list that might be causing mouse lag? 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Complete.esp AB SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp AC SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp AD SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp AE RBB Long and Row Boats - Snow.esp AF SMPC_windows_fix.esp B0 SRTODragonbornParallax.esp B1 SRTOParallax.esp B2 CD - TSFetish Wardrobe addon.esp B3 SMIM-Merged-All.esp B4 About horses 1.5.esp B5 SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp B6 Unique Grasses_clippingfixer.esp B7 SOS - Shop.esp B8 Skyrim_Ice_Shader_Fix.esp B9 SMPC_Dawnguard_ReFix.esp BA RBB Large Boats.esp BB RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp BC elderbuttscroll.esp BD Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp BE Cloaks.esp BF Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp C0 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp C1 CustomRaces.esp C2 FNISSexyMove.esp C3 RevampedExteriorFog.esp C4 RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp C5 RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp C6 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Turning off ipresentinterval and mouse acceleration helped quite a bit, but turning the mouse with any level of speed in places like whiterun is still met with a lag spike
Alpia Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 I don't even know a lot of these mods my only change would be: 1F HighResTexturePack01.esp20 HighResTexturePack02.esp21 HighResTexturePack03.espUse a real high res pack, but the enb preset you use you have said installs all the textures right? otherwise I would recommend skyrim hd I also looked up the settings you want to integrate seems like they can indeed help, but can be harmfull as well guess you have to try I found this: First section is the most important. Papyrus, which is the scripting system Skyrim uses, is very fragile. The most popular tweak for it will overload it, and can hurt performance, and overwork the CPU.be careful with these settings! [Papyrus]fUpdateBudgetMS=1.2fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.2fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0iMinMemoryPageSize=128iMaxMemoryPageSize=512iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=76800bEnableLogging=0bEnableTrace=0bLoadDebugInformation=0bEnableProfiling=0Notice that the MS values is ~660x smaller than what some recommend (800)? To put it simply, 60fps requires around 16.6ms max to be spent on rendering each frame. Allowing up to 800ms of CPU time to one task is not a good idea, it needs to share CPU time with other things. Also notice the small memory values. Setting these larger is not a good idea, just read the link below to know why.If you are running a script-heavy setup (you shouldn't be), and your scripts start to misbehave/perform badly, you could increase the fUpdateBudgetMS value in increments (to 1.6, then 2.0 at max). This will help prevent the additional time in fExtraTaskletBudgetMS being allocated to the CPU, instead adding a smaller amount to additionally always be allocated to the CPU. This will ensure all scripts have sufficient time to run. This is also something for you Distant DetailShort warning about these, but flagging models to load at full distance with full detail will really hurt your GPU. Skyrim Distance Overhaul accomplishes this using actual LOD's (reduced quality models, like vanilla Skyrim), so that the models don't need every twig loaded in full texture resolution. Compromise for your GPU's sake .
Uriel Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 Use "AutodetectMemorySize" in ENBlocal.ini. Don't care about "VideoMemorySizeMB". Provide momory blocks log form the start of the game until you start lagging. Show us your papyrus logs. Also, i don't recommend you to buy multichip graphics cause: 1) ENB does not work good with multigpu 2) You will definitely have some bad experiences running it anyways 3) You will not get any benefit from multigpu in some apps, you can get a headache trying to find out why some apps refuse to work properly. 4) AMD has builtin frame pacing stuff right now, but still first read about about frametimes. 5) One fast GPU is always better then two mediums, despite the test results. What you probably experience is overtexturing. Since you are using highest res textures, your VRAM is probably constantly filled, and when you walk further into the world, and Skyrim loads more textures, ENB starts moving them between Skyrim's RAM space/VRAM/ENBhost process RAM, trying to prevent Skyrim from crashing. What you can do is try to set ReservedMemorySizeMB to be close to your VRAM amount. This will not solve your problem completely, but might help somewhat. Otherwise, you will probably need to lower your texture resolutions.
Nazgren Posted September 21, 2014 Author Posted September 21, 2014 No, not my ENB, Skyrim Mod Combiner. It handled all my texture replacements. It gets the best textures from a vast number of packs and combines them into an archive that will replace every texture in the game. Its a fantastic program and a shame that more people dont know about it but it takes a pc of our level to handle the level of textures this program uses. Hill have a look at some of those settings and will see what works. Im not using Distant Detail or Skyrim Distance Overhaul!
Alpia Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 No, not my ENB, Skyrim Mod Combiner. It handled all my texture replacements. It gets the best textures from a vast number of packs and combines them into an archive that will replace every texture in the game. Its a fantastic program and a shame that more people dont know about it but it takes a pc of our level to handle the level of textures this program uses. Hill have a look at some of those settings and will see what works. Im not using Distant Detail or Skyrim Distance Overhaul! Well it may be a nice program I see why you use it, but I choose well what textures I install and which not. The mod sounds intressting, but I like to know what textures I have installed update us about the settings It indeed sounds very promising with its options maybe if I ever gonna setup my skyrim new I try it^^
Nazgren Posted September 21, 2014 Author Posted September 21, 2014 Use "AutodetectMemorySize" in ENBlocal.ini. Don't care about "VideoMemorySizeMB". Provide momory blocks log form the start of the game until you start lagging. Show us your papyrus logs. Also, i don't recommend you to buy multichip graphics cause: 1) ENB does not work good with multigpu 2) You will definitely have some bad experiences running it anyways 3) You will not get any benefit from multigpu in some apps, you can get a headache trying to find out why some apps refuse to work properly. 4) AMD has builtin frame pacing stuff right now, but still first read about about frametimes. 5) One fast GPU is always better then two mediums, despite the test results. What you probably experience is overtexturing. Since you are using highest res textures, your VRAM is probably constantly filled, and when you walk further into the world, and Skyrim loads more textures, ENB starts moving them between Skyrim's RAM space/VRAM/ENBhost process RAM trying to prevent Skyrim from crashing. What you can do is try to set ReservedMemorySizeMB to be close to your VRAM amount. This will not solve your problem completely, but might help somewhat. Otherwise, you will probably need to lower your texture resolutions. Theres too many reports of Autodetect memory size to be wrong Already doing hte memory blocks stuff My latest papyrus is attached I had rad some of those, is definately soemthing to consider. My gpu is hardly a medium level GPU, the GTX 980 is only 5% faster as i said. I wont deny that i am probably on the verge of overtexturing, but since im just facing slight lag spikes now when turning in notoriously resource heavy areas i would like to try and avoid reducign quality when there may be a mod issue or ini issue or file that i can install to solve the issue. Have upped by Reservedmemorysizemb from 512 to 768, will see how much difference that makes.
Nazgren Posted September 21, 2014 Author Posted September 21, 2014 No, not my ENB, Skyrim Mod Combiner. It handled all my texture replacements. It gets the best textures from a vast number of packs and combines them into an archive that will replace every texture in the game. Its a fantastic program and a shame that more people dont know about it but it takes a pc of our level to handle the level of textures this program uses. Hill have a look at some of those settings and will see what works. Im not using Distant Detail or Skyrim Distance Overhaul! Well it may be a nice program I see why you use it, but I choose well what textures I install and which not. The mod sounds intressting, but I like to know what textures I have installed update us about the settings It indeed sounds very promising with its options maybe if I ever gonna setup my skyrim new I try it^^ You do know, it gives you a list of mods to download and there links on nexus. It lets you pick what size of textures if the mod creator gives a choice. You can download as many or as few of them as you want. You then drop em into a folder, click go and it does all the rest. About 5-6 of the mods are hidden on nexus and one of the big ones was banned altogether due to the mod owner demanding donation to download but there are links to a torrent of it on here somewhere but there not overly important as there must be close to 200 texture packs in the list, if not more. Anyway, gonna go try this reserved memory size thing, hopefully will make a difference.
Alpia Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 Ah ok that indeed makes it even more intressting like I said maybe if I will ever setup my skyrim new
Nazgren Posted September 21, 2014 Author Posted September 21, 2014 I've used it the last few times, cant fault it at all, and even if there's a texture you dont like, theres nothing to stop you from replacing the particular texture later . the initial set up takes a while buti think it definately saves you time overaul. Upping the reserved memory from 512 to 768 has changed things slightly. It's gone from being moderate lag spikes intermittently to minor lagspikes regularly. However i can run around outside whiterun pretty much lag free and in whiterun i can also go lag free if i only look down... Damn, my road texture looks good!
Alpia Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 well I'm glad you found something that helped you modding skyrim until it explodes should be everyone's goal Btw don't know if you use some tree mod allready, but http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/56877/? Simply bigger threes makes the immersive for me really nice well if you have allrady lags I don't recommand it ^^
...0... Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 GTX 980 is more made for 2560 resolution then 1920 they tested mainly that resolution, high end cards like that you should concider a monitor that have at least 1440p, it's even good for 4k. Alot people will be sad they bought the 780 ti not long ago hehe.
Nazgren Posted September 21, 2014 Author Posted September 21, 2014 well I'm glad you found something that helped you modding skyrim until it explodes should be everyone's goal Btw don't know if you use some tree mod allready, but http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/56877/? Simply bigger threes makes the immersive for me really nice well if you have allrady lags I don't recommand it ^^ I know, i always see people boasting about how they have cards like ours and how they can run skyrim on ultra and I cant help but laugh. Why would you spend that much money on a card and not use texture packs? Its probably best not to rock the boat, dotn want to make my skyrim any more difficult to run until my system can handle it When it can though i will most certainly look at that, i always thought tree's could have been a little bigger. GTX 980 is more made for 2560 resolution then 1920 they tested mainly that resolution, high end cards like that you should concider a monitor that have at least 1440p, it's even good for 4k. Alot people will be sad they bought the 780 ti not long ago hehe. YY, i think mines only 1080p but it could be higher, I'm not sure. When i do eventually upgrade monitor i will probably jump straight to the 4k, probably once there not obscenely overpriced. Heh, IKR, i bought mine in January and even I'm gutted Who wouldn't be when there cards successor is cheaper AND more powerful? T'is a rare sight in the gaming world for a component like that. I took the reservedmemory size one step further to 1024 and finaly, the lag is just about gone! I figure that pushing it any further will be asking for trouble, so i just need to squeeze a bit more performance out. Is there any ENB setting that is very resource intensive but doesn't have a big effect? Would taking a risk and cleaning my mods help at all? Might need to try optimizing my textures again.
yatol Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 I dont feel i have stressed enough just how heavily modded my skyrim is. My texture folder alone is 22.3 gb. i have replaced absolutely every texture, with the vast majority of them being 4k or even higher, the rest 2k bigger texture does not mean better texture... on a picture the body is 10 mo, on the other one it's the original 65 mo file can you see the difference? i can't and that's probably your problem, texture too big, your hardrive can't load them to ram in time, so the game wait for it
Nazgren Posted September 21, 2014 Author Posted September 21, 2014 I dont feel i have stressed enough just how heavily modded my skyrim is. My texture folder alone is 22.3 gb. i have replaced absolutely every texture, with the vast majority of them being 4k or even higher, the rest 2k bigger texture does not mean better texture... on a picture the body is 10 mo, on the other one it's the original 65 mo file can you see the difference? i can't and that's probably your problem, texture too big, your hardrive can't load them to ram in time, so the game wait for it That looks like poor compression to me. I would get Ordenadors texture optimizer, helps a lot with file size. When i say texture size i dont mean the size of the file, i mean the resolution of the texture, e.g 512, 1024, 2k, 4k, etc
Uriel Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 Upping the reserved memory from 512 to 768 has changed things slightly. It's gone from being moderate lag spikes intermittently to minor lagspikes regularly. However i can run around outside whiterun pretty much lag free and in whiterun i can also go lag free if i only look down... No, it's not about upping it just 256mb more, i've seen you were doing this already. Try setting your ReservedMemorySizeMB to something like 2560 or 2816 and look how it goes. This was suggested by Boris for setups with too much textures. About auto detect - who said it's not working properly? 99% is like "OMG, autodetect says i have >9000mb while my card only haz 512!!1111, autodetect is bad!". While the rest 1% were unable to prove it's existence.
Nazgren Posted September 21, 2014 Author Posted September 21, 2014 Like i said, upping it from 512 to 1024 has just about sorted it now. I dont belive that, it doesnt even allow you to increase it higher then 1024 in game, so why would he recommend making it more then twice that? Do you have a link to such a recommendation? The Speed and Stability Guide for ENB on the nexus. Besides, i don't need a computer to tell me what 8192+3072-2048 is.
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