Adam Jensen Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 Honestly, one of the things I miss the most out of Oblivion is without a doubt the arena. I dunno why, but putting my life on the line for a few coins and a championship was always fun. So I was thinking, would it be possible to create an arena of sorts with sexlab elements? What I mean by this is that the reward of a fight (or punishment) would be sex. Kind of a to the victor the spoils scenario. Maybe the arena could be held in a underground place, to give it a clandestine feel. Perhaps there could also be specialties like only using unarmed combat or magic. But anyway what do you guys think? Does an arena where the prize is sex sounds like a good idea?
bruh... Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 i was actually thinking about asking the same thing for a while. Someone should really get on this.
allfather123 Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 I'll drink to that. In fact, any good mod that would take the Arena in Oblivion and improve it even further would be welcome.
Adam Jensen Posted July 14, 2014 Author Posted July 14, 2014 I'll drink to that. In fact, any good mod that would take the Arena in Oblivion and improve it even further would be welcome. Amen to that, my good man. I seen a few arenas, but sadly they don't seem to be very good.
Leeeeeroy Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 there's a good arena mod on the steam workshop i just can't remember it's name i really like the idea of a sexlab arena, but just making an arena takes too much time and needs a lot of work, making one with sexlab elements would need even more time and work, I don't want to disencourage anyone trying to make it, but with the time and work needed, i don't think there's many people here able to do it
allfather123 Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 there's a good arena mod on the steam workshop i just can't remember it's name It's Faction: Pit Fighter mod. It's kinda cool.
Just Checking Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 On the topic of pit fighters, there is that cave in the game with gamblers and pit wolves and what have you. If someone wanted to do this it wouldn't be hard to just use that cell as a template or something. Everything but the scriptwork is already there, really.
aravis7 Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 Yes you can use the windhelm arena, it's almost finished with custom meshes and everything, but unused in the vanilla game. http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Windhelm_Pit It would be perfecr for this kind of mod : )
GodSmack Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 Yes you can use the windhelm arena, it's almost finished with custom meshes and everything, but unused in the vanilla game. http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Windhelm_Pit It would be perfecr for this kind of mod : ) that area is used in pit fighters, its a good idea, but if someone has pit fighters it will collide with with a mod that uses that place too, hard.
gamefreak999 Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 I would also like to see something like this implemented but again it would seem like a lot of work just to make the arena itself. Instead of gold, maybe the incentive can be freedom. Based off the other mods like SD+, the PC could be defeated, captured and sold off to an arena as a gladiator and has to fight for their freedom. Alternatively, the PC can choose the option to fight in an arena once captured to earn money for her master. I think the fights would be easier to make fair since the PC won't have any equipment and would be given equipment before the fights. The PC could do favors for the weapon master to get better equipment or be more prideful and get worse equipment or none at all and get sent out into the field naked. The win condition for these arenas would be defeat or surrender instead of to the death.
Adam Jensen Posted July 14, 2014 Author Posted July 14, 2014 I would also like to see something like this implemented but again it would seem like a lot of work just to make the arena itself. Instead of gold, maybe the incentive can be freedom. Based off the other mods like SD+, the PC could be defeated, captured and sold off to an arena as a gladiator and has to fight for their freedom. Alternatively, the PC can choose the option to fight in an arena once captured to earn money for her master. I think the fights would be easier to make fair since the PC won't have any equipment and would be given equipment before the fights. The PC could do favors for the weapon master to get better equipment or be more prideful and get worse equipment or none at all and get sent out into the field naked. The win condition for these arenas would be defeat or surrender instead of to the death. Great concept, but I think I see two issues with it: 1: In order to have the goal of earning the freedom, we would need to either have a dependency to one of the other slavery mods or create that feature by itself. If the arena is a lot of work, this would add more to that work. 2: That would work more as a one time thing. Like a quest or something like that. What I am looking for is something more in the vein of Oblivion's arena, where you can go and compete on your own accord. With all that said, I been actually checking some stuff and it seems that making the arena might not be too hard. As others mentioned, there are already quite a few arenas, so we could build off from that and just add the sexlab implementation, I think.
allfather123 Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 Yes! Using the Windhelm pit would be niice! About the incompatibilities with other mods, it's just a matter of enlisting the mods that uses the same cell. How about this: Since it's in Windhelm, the pit could be a dark place in the common rabble where imperials (captured by Stormcloaks on the Civil War) are sold and tossed to live as long as they can entertain the public (everything off Ulfric's records of course). The player could be either one of the fighters or one of the patrons, who would bet between pit fights or even invest money and manage fighters careers. Sex element could be anywhere in those 2 possibilities, either being molested in their cells, being raped by the other contestant as a defeat humilliation or even being a patron and buy fighters so you can do anything with them.
Kuロi Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 Yes! Using the Windhelm pit would be niice! About the incompatibilities with other mods, it's just a matter of enlisting the mods that uses the same cell. How about this: Since it's in Windhelm, the pit could be a dark place in the common rabble where imperials (captured by Stormcloaks on the Civil War) are sold and tossed to live as long as they can entertain the public (everything off Ulfric's records of course). The player could be either one of the fighters or one of the patrons, who would bet between pit fights or even invest money and manage fighters careers. Sex element could be anywhere in those 2 possibilities, either being molested in their cells, being raped by the other contestant as a defeat humilliation or even being a patron and buy fighters so you can do anything with them. We don't even need to keep it to Imperial, considering how racist the Nords are. Anyone not a Nord is probably fair game for an arena fighter, hell even a Nord can be if he doesn't fully support the stormcloak. Here's a suggestion though, while the sex element needs to be present (this is, LL, afterall ), let's try to leave some liberty to the player. Say the player loses : yeah, the first few times it might be fun to see the pc get raped on the stop, but it will get boring. Give a resist option where you don't get raped, with a twist. There might be someone visiting your cell that night, for "not following the rules". Or maybe publicly exposed and used as punishment. But what if you win? Does it end here? Do you rape your opponent? If you don't, would it make a certain official (the rules, y'know?) angry?, angry enough to visit you that night? Or if you do, do you get to keep the loser for a while and bring him/her to your cell? or maybe a fan comes to see you afterwards, in total admiration, and you decide to make him/her your slave for a while? All in all, these might be some difficult ideas to implement, but if someone does decide to make a sexlab arena, these might be some things to expand upon.
XJ347 Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 I always liked the idea of an arena quest. Could be forced, or just volunteer... I always liked forced personally! Objective for men is to rape the women, the women is trying to kill the man... Part of me wants to do it, but my lazy side says it will never happen LOL.
Adam Jensen Posted July 15, 2014 Author Posted July 15, 2014 Yes! Using the Windhelm pit would be niice! About the incompatibilities with other mods, it's just a matter of enlisting the mods that uses the same cell. How about this: Since it's in Windhelm, the pit could be a dark place in the common rabble where imperials (captured by Stormcloaks on the Civil War) are sold and tossed to live as long as they can entertain the public (everything off Ulfric's records of course). The player could be either one of the fighters or one of the patrons, who would bet between pit fights or even invest money and manage fighters careers. Sex element could be anywhere in those 2 possibilities, either being molested in their cells, being raped by the other contestant as a defeat humilliation or even being a patron and buy fighters so you can do anything with them. We don't even need to keep it to Imperial, considering how racist the Nords are. Anyone not a Nord is probably fair game for an arena fighter, hell even a Nord can be if he doesn't fully support the stormcloak. Here's a suggestion though, while the sex element needs to be present (this is, LL, afterall ), let's try to leave some liberty to the player. Say the player loses : yeah, the first few times it might be fun to see the pc get raped on the stop, but it will get boring. Give a resist option where you don't get raped, with a twist. There might be someone visiting your cell that night, for "not following the rules". Or maybe publicly exposed and used as punishment. But what if you win? Does it end here? Do you rape your opponent? If you don't, would it make a certain official (the rules, y'know?) angry?, angry enough to visit you that night? Or if you do, do you get to keep the loser for a while and bring him/her to your cell? or maybe a fan comes to see you afterwards, in total admiration, and you decide to make him/her your slave for a while? All in all, these might be some difficult ideas to implement, but if someone does decide to make a sexlab arena, these might be some things to expand upon. Last night I booted up the CK and decided to give it a try. This is my first time experimenting with the CK, so I am shooting for something rather simple. Hopefully the initial idea will be that once pc is defeated a forced dialogue triggers and you have at the very least two options. In one option pc admits defeat honorably and it's more docile which triggers a more passionate scene. In the other pc trash talks, which leads to a more aggressive animation. If pc wins, you can choose either one or spare the loser. This will be the basic system, if I can get it to work. Once I learn how to properly use CK, I will try to come up with more complex scenarios. On a side note, I am considering using one of these places. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Cragslane_Cavern http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Fort_Dunstad
Guest Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 cragslane cavern in my opinion is good it has a little fighting place and gamblers
Adam Jensen Posted July 15, 2014 Author Posted July 15, 2014 cragslane cavern in my opinion is good it has a little fighting place and gamblers Yeah I really like it because it goes with the underground/illegal feel that I want to convey. Now all I need to do is learn how to make the bandits in the cave non hostile. xD
allfather123 Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 Now all I need to do is learn how to make the bandits in the cave non hostile. xD Maybe this thread can help you out. The modder was asking the opposite. http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1737001-making-friendly-npcs-hostile-toward-player-by-default-question/ Though, after reading it better, it's kinda a simple answer that does not solve that big deal of a problem.
afa Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 I have a feeling this will conflict with Defeat and Submit tho. Since they are technically the same concept except not in an arena setting.
Adam Jensen Posted July 17, 2014 Author Posted July 17, 2014 I am trying to come up with a way to not have them conflict. If anybody can throw in an idea it would be much appreciated.
Ashra XIII Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 They can't even keep their mods from conflicting with one another, other than to create settings where the player can change what takes over in the event of getting reduced to zero health. At least in the case of Defeat (and SD+), you could create compatibility simply by integrating your mod with Death Alternative, which allows for certain events to take priority over others when the player is reduced to zero health, and again when they 'black out' (the secondary bleed out bar is depleted). If your mod set itself to a higher priority than the others only when an arena battle is taking place, it would be the one to trigger every time.
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