crime town/city?

[Lustfulnight]

hey guys,
i ask alot of qestions i know lol. but trust me, i only use this site as a last resort if i can find a mod on the internet. believe me i do alot of digging O_o, even in those jap websites which is a pain without a translator.

anyways i wanted to ask if there is a modded town or city for skyrim that brings a more....ghetto, slummy, sleazy environment,
like....umm crap i forgot the title of the mod...but it was for oblivion and it brought 3 new towns to the game, one was a village in the mods with a cool quest, the other was by bravil in another set of weeds with a hunted mansion, and finally my fav town it brought, pails gate, a ghetto town that had everything i ever wanted, a underground area where the poor beggars lived and a bar full of cutthroats. it was the perfect criminal town to be if you were evil or in my case a prostitute lol.

so back to the point, i was wondering if anyone has made such a awsome place like this for skyrim? a city or town full of crime, where most of the badest of the bads go to live their life with other killers, where hookers go to make a honest living xD.

if there isnt one...would it be to much to ask if someone can make a town or city all slumy and scary and dirty? :3

[Adam Jensen]

So what you want is basically a town with a bunch of "cutthroat" npcs?

[Lustfulnight]

kinda, like i really enjoy the slums feel of a town, like the moment you walk in, you tell yourself o damn...i gatta keep a eye on my coin bag and make sure to watch my back. like a whole town ran on corruption, you know what i mean? i just think itd be a very fitting mod for others who enjoy being a criminal aswell and also very fitting for those how are a prostitute.

if i could id make this mod myself,
i already have a list down of things to make this town feel run down,
pretty much :
-boarded windows on some houses,
-abandon houses thats been taken over by beggars and skooma addicts,
-have skooma dealers in some ally ways,
-have like 2 or 3 taverns in the town, each with a different but violent setting
(example: one would have blood on the floor the moment you walk in due to all the bar fights, another have a dead man outside by the front door, due to a stabbing but no one took the time to treat his wounds, instead they just left him outside to deal with his own problems and eventually bleed out. and the other have a gang of bandits harassing the costumers).
- have a brathol or whore house (where prostitute pc's can join
- make this town have no guards (walking around outside) due to the town being over run with crime, their to scared to show that their guards, if they do they get killed.
-have beggars roaming the streets, sometimes asking for money, sometimes they try to kill you.
- if possible add dialogue where some npc's will be telling you to fuck off or they will stab you (rouph idea)
- have some creeps (if your a female pc) say some rude things about how theyd treat you like a bitch. ect.

like i just have this whole idea and because of this idea im trying to learn how to create mods, but im very new to creating mods so this is way out of my reach but its an idea, and if someone wants to take this up, by all means. youll be my hero. im tried of this pretty, nice, beautiful towns. i want a dirty grimmy, town no one wants to be at. unless your evil, unless you like killing, unless your a whore then this town is for you.

the idea would just to add this town thats so nasty looking theres not one clean street.
dont get me wrong itd be nice to add some npc's that are nice and caring but are just to poor to have a life in the other holds so they put up with the chaos in this town because its so cheap, due to everyone ether moving out, or someone always dying from a violent death.

the only way i can really explain this mod is to take a look at sherzie towns for oblivion, look at the town called palls gate. it was nicly done for that feeling i want in skyrim. and im pretty sure im not the only one thatd love to see something like this done =3. we can all admit. skyrim is just to pretty when it comes towns. we need a dark, nasty town for once.
just throwing ideas out there.

[hentaijin]

I think overhauling Riften might be a good idea. It's already a shady place with the thieves guild there.

I don't think it could be make that extreme though(no guards, you could perhaps add some guards that are corrupt) without breaking something.

[AlerictheNord]

The OP has a really good point, but 'sterility' and 'cartoon-realism' has more or less become the norm with Bethesda games.

 

EDIT: @OP

 

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[Lustfulnight]

fair enough, riften does seem like the place to put this mod, but i was also thinking of solitude, why? because the hold its self is big and i think it would blend so well with the skyrim solitude docks mod, which already adds a much bigger more slummy docks to solitudes originial docks. to be honest this sudden spark in asking for someone to take this mod up was inspired not just by the sleazy towns mod for oblivion but also because of many factors solitude had within itself already, like the beheading that took part the moment you first walk into solitude, the bandit quest with the light house, the feeling of the winking skeever and the npc's within it. this all just kinda made me go nuts on thinking how i could remake this place to what was once a gorgeous city by the bay, to a corrupted vile hold, where,..hell even pirates would stop by to get drunk off rum and spend all their gold on whores?. 

making a overhaul like this would be awsome, i think itd be the first of its kind since (no offense to the modders out there) theres just too many BEAUTIFUL towns or cities mods out there, not enouph crime infected towns or cities. not enouph of the vision towards what a city would look like if truly corrupted.
yes i thought riften would be great for this, BUT! i like moderation, id say go for solitude (With my previous ideas). riften would be the city that shows a more medium crim rate of skyrim, while whiterun or markarth are the places to be for absolute safety,  THEN you would have solitude, a very corrupted place, and its not helping that the docks are located there, escaping criminals and pirates always roaming the populated docks?

@AlerictheNord,

dont get me wrong i LOVE loverslab and everyone on this site, they all are gifted and very creative. i adore everyones work on here and how open minded people are , im just stubborn so i always do a deep hardcore look on the internet for what im looking myself before coming on here, i dont like to burden people with all my questions  =/. so i like to see loverslab and the people on here as my 100%, if i cant find what im looking for on here, then ill never find it anywhere else =3.

[aravis7]

Don't think solitude would work for this, it the richest city of skyrim after all. A good idea could be to add a new quarter in riften, instead of overhauling it, the vanilla city is too small anyway, and there are a lot of aviable space in the west. It could be a nice collaborative project for loverslab members.

[Lustfulnight]

hmmm i geuss i see what your saying. well im happy ether way if someone or a team is willing to make this setting in a city. im just tired of this lack of corruption and crime in the cities

[Guest Youngmemer]

The whole, Ghetto/Slum town sounds like a great idea to me.

(I have absolutely no idea of how to mod) but it actually doesn't sound like a huge job:

 

1. Use the creation kit to create the base town

2. Design interiors, stuff like that

3. Put a bunch of NPCs around

4. ?????

5. Profit

 

However if there are any people who know how to do this stuff and think I'm being a complete idiot, correct me please.

[BringtheNoise]

Instead of reworking a specific city. Why not just use an empty area close to a city.

I'ld suggest the swamp that is to the east of Solitude's Dock's (and it would be realistic with the rick pricks up on the hill and the slum's down in the swamp).

Just don't go to far east as you would eventually hit the Abandon'd shack (which is part of the brotherhood mission).

Toss in some currupt Solitude guards, some whore's, pirates, slave traders, and you've got a place where you don't need to just watch your coin purse, but your ass as well (least you be club'd over the head and sold at auction).

[Darkening Demise]

If I can figure out how to make a town in CK I would continue on Rokton. But alas no one is willing to help. They expect you to know everything already. We do need more settlement mods, mainly aimed for thief style instead of these Solitude harmony happy go lucky make you wanna puke mods.