Body physics causing crash

[Nvooid]

I have tried "CHSBHC - BBP - Nude and Jiggly Mod" and "HDT Physics Extension" (not using them at the same time), both are crashing my game. I've followed the given tutorials step by step. The game is crashing the when the physics activates. For instance, I can play along just fine with clothes on but the very moment I take them of it's causing the game to crash. 

 

I have a feeling these mods interferes with "Immersive Animations", "Schlongs of Skyrim" or "XP32 Maximum Skeleton".

 

Could you experienced modders help a rookie out? Any common mistakes or things I should look out for? I've tried a bit of googling as well as general forum reading.

I don't really know what to feel when the only physics I see is penises hanging around while the women walk around like stiff dolls. 

 

Thanks in advance!

[srayesmanll]

I use the HDT_PE with ADEC body, SOS, and the version of the XPMS skeleton here ( http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25971-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/ ) with no problems (well, until last night, but a completely different problem).  One thing to remember is ALWAYS install the skeleton last.  You didn't provide a complete load order so there is no way to verify with your mods, but there are mods that install their own skeleton (Realistic Ragdoll for example), so you should always install the skeleton last.  The XPMS from nexus should work, but try the one I linked - it's the XPMS skeleton with some added features.  It has options specific to HDT in the installer so you may have more luck with that.  I cannot comment on the mods "Immersive Animaitions" or the "CHSBHC - BBP - Nude and Jiggly Mod".  I don't use them so I wouldn't be able to tell you if there is an issue related to them.  If the above doesn't work, export your complete load order and paste it in [ spoiler ]   [ /spoiler ] tags (no spaces).  There is also an HDT log in the data folder (I believe it's in the same folder where you put the dll/xml for the HDT).  You can paste the text of the log in spoiler tags as well.  This may help someone with more experience than I have give you more helpful info.

[hryh23k9823u]

If you use MO, make sure you're placing XPMS at the top priority, cause such mods tends to come with their own skeleton and you don't want it. If you use NMM/Manual install, remake your installation order and stall xpms the last one, overwriting.

[Nvooid]

No crashes after applying skeleton last and no physics. Removed all the physic mods, I think. This is my load order without them, which is sort of a cluster fuck.

GameMode=Skyrim

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

AP Skyrim.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

The Joy of Perspective.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

AOS.esp=1

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1

SoS - Civilization.esp=1

SoS - The Dungeons.esp=1

SoS - The Wilds.esp=1

brawlbug-plugin.esp=1

Headtracking.esp=1

killable_children_qp_aventus.esp=1

killable_children_qp_nelkir.esp=1

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

ASX_Spells.esp=1

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

Populated Cities 2.esp=1

Better Vampires.esp=1

DeadlyDragons.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

isilNarsil.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1

Footprints.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp=1

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1

SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp=0

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp=0

Beautiful Cities.esp=1

GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_SFO.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1

Basvanbeu MuscleTextureChanger with Navetsea set.esp=1

SkyFalls + SkyMills.esp=1

SkyFalls + SkyMills Dawnguard.esp=1

SkyFalls + SkyMills Dragonborn.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

Cutting Room Floor.esp=1

FNISspells.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp=1

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp=0

CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

SOS Schlong Controller.esp=1

SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp=1

SOS Equipable Schlong.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

SOSRaceMenu.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp=0

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1

zzLSAR.esp=1

zzLSARAddon.esp=1

[hryh23k9823u]

Your load order has nothing to do here, in any case your mod order if you were using Mod Organizer. Anyway, what HDT are you using? have you propertly insalled them inside skse folder? Also, I *think* BBP bodies aren't compatible with HDT physics. I'm not sure but I would say only TBBP bodies are? Try Caliente's or UNPB instead (with Caliente's you can use bodyslide to make a shape similar to CHSBHC if you like). And again, after all install again xpms and overwrite (or just switch to Mod Organizer :3)

[srayesmanll]

According to the info here ( http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25482-setup-step-by-step-setup-basics-for-hdt-physics-extension/ ), it "should" work with BBP or TBBP based bodies.  Again, I use ADEC which is TBBP, so I can't verify if BBP works.  Like Lother asked:  Which version of HDT are you using?  Also, is the lack of physics with clothes on, or without clothes.  Reason I ask is that the clothes/armor/etc must be BBP/TBBP as well.  So if you using non-T/BBP armor & clothing, you won't see the physics.  You should see it when naked though.

 

If you haven't looked at it, take a look at this pinned topic ( http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25501-hdt-news-and-info-latest-12-29-stable-10-24/ ).  That's what led me to the other info I linked.

[Nvooid]

Yes exactly, I followed this specific order 

Install SKSE.
It is required!

Install a body with BBP or TBBP compatibility.
Start here if you need one. Well known bodies and their derivatives will have this. Others will say in their documentation.

Install skeleton with BBP or TBBP compatibility.
Start here if you need one. Most often, this will be an xp32 created skeleton. Others will say in their documentation.

Download the HDT plugin for SKSE.
Start here if you need it. Also available from the HDT Download link in the menu bar at the top of the page.

Open this directory: Skyrim/data/SKSE/plugins/
If it doesn't exist, create it. Go ahead, it's ok.

Copy in the files hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll and hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml
v9-23 or earlier: Remove the date from the plugin dll filename so that it is now hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll.

Done.

Enjoy the show.

The physics are non existent while nude. 
And yes, about the HTD version. I use the v12-29 Latest and it's just two text files going inside skse plugins. Am I missing some major files in this mod? 

Btw should you regenerate FNIS after installing the whole package for HDT, because that's what I did. 

 

[hryh23k9823u]

FNIS and HDT are unrelated, because HDT is not animations.

Try this one maybe? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25503-hdt-tripples/

[Nvooid]

Okay I actually tested to switch body replacer and with ADEC the physics works!  
But a texture problem appeared.. This happens both with the including ADEC textures and other textures supporting ADEC. Is some old body replacer still creeping around, or what could be causing this?

[srayesmanll]

Definitely not the standard look for adec.  Personally I use ADEC 2.4 with the Sporty/Sexy map and Sport/Sexy sweat, with all of the armors that Acdale created.  It is probably some texture leftover from the previous body installed.  Are you manually installing?  If so, you might want to use a mod manager, it helps a lot with adding/removing textures (there are so many files sometimes it's too easy to miss one or two when manually installing).  Mod Organizer is good, especially if you want to try out different body types.  You could set up different installs, 1 for each body you want to try.  Anyway, yes it is probably some leftovers from the previous body, or an armor installed that is non-adec.

[Nvooid]

Definitely not the standard look for adec.  Personally I use ADEC 2.4 with the Sporty/Sexy map and Sport/Sexy sweat, with all of the armors that Acdale created.  It is probably some texture leftover from the previous body installed.  Are you manually installing?  If so, you might want to use a mod manager, it helps a lot with adding/removing textures (there are so many files sometimes it's too easy to miss one or two when manually installing).  Mod Organizer is good, especially if you want to try out different body types.  You could set up different installs, 1 for each body you want to try.  Anyway, yes it is probably some leftovers from the previous body, or an armor installed that is non-adec.

Thanks. I'm currently using NMM but I've seen Mod Organizer being mentioned a lot on here. I'll give it a try on a fresh install. 

[srayesmanll]

I use NMM myself, and am quite happy with it.  But I also already went through my testing phase of trying different bodies (before MO existed) before settling on ADEC.  Never used MO but it is highly recommended and I do definitely see it's value for testing out various mod setups and if you want to maintain multiple characters.  Me, I'm an old fart and somewhat set in my ways, so I stick with NMM.  Hell it took me until a month ago (after playing with Skyrim since about july 2012) before I started cleaning the dlcs with Tes5Edit.  Well, time to go chase those damn kids off my lawn ...