SquallPT Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Is there a episode 2 torrent version available ? yay or nay ? or ni ?
ObrinMRtel Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 She said on the forums that if people keep making torrents, she will stop with making the game. She wants us to download from the official page, and I do not get it why are people having problems with that ( I also prefer the torrent but... )... Also I would like to know are there any new updates...
SquallPT Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 At least she changed to rapidgator. It takes a while but better than nothing
Degeneracy Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 She said on the forums that if people keep making torrents, she will stop with making the game. She wants us to download from the official page, and I do not get it why are people having problems with that ( I also prefer the torrent but... )... Also I would like to know are there any new updates... problems with getting them from torrents or using the official dl methods? For me the official method is a slow method, 5+parts with downloading 1 at a time due to the site restrictions at 100kbps would take about 5 days. Torrent 2hrs total, so yea, she should look into torrent file which is housed on one of those ad link sites for $$ of course. Edit: new site is also slow, 1 part every 2hrs, 9 parts....
Beyound Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Episode 2 V1.3 is open to the public on Aurils blog. Nothing new in the beta forums atm. 3 new Gallery Images: As for the downloading from share sites instead of torrent, is due to Auril gets money from share sites but not torrents. Means she can work more on the game and less worrying about bills.
Degeneracy Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 I understand she gets money from those sites, it's just that those sites are so limited. If I could download more then 1 file per 2hrs then I would be ok with that, even if I have to go through 2min of ads. I have to ask, do ViP members have to download from this site or they have their own download site(faster/etc)?
Beyound Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 No, we don't download through those sites. we have a site you can download all parts together in one go with no restrictions on speed.
ObrinMRtel Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 So she uses us to her advantage to get money... which is illegal i guess, some guy mentioned this on the official forums. This means she restricts our downloads on purpose so we get bored and eventually pay for ViP... have to say she is a smart girl, but I will not give money to a stranger who could be pretending all the time and eventually just stop making anything and leave us all as complete losers, especially people who 'donated'. I have nothing against her but what she does is not right. Btw. thanks for the info Beyound
todotodonexus Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 So she uses us to her advantage to get money... which is illegal i guess, some guy mentioned this on the official forums. This means she restricts our downloads on purpose so we get bored and eventually pay for ViP... have to say she is a smart girl, but I will not give money to a stranger who could be pretending all the time and eventually just stop making anything and leave us all as complete losers, especially people who 'donated'. I have nothing against her but what she does is not right. Btw. thanks for the info Beyound u not right, she said: In other words, if you want to upload files on your file hostings or torrents- I won't to do something for you anymore, and the following episodes can be exclusive only for VIP members.
LordJerle Posted July 17, 2013 Author Posted July 17, 2013 The problem with that being that if she asks for money, technically she's breaking the terms of agreement for the UDK. If you're making a profit from the game, you have to get a license for your game for distribution from Epic, which costs $99 in US currency, and give Epic 25% of the profit. And yes, those terms still apply if you live in Russia.
todotodonexus Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 And yes, those terms still apply if you live in Russia. this terms don't work on practice if u live in Russia, but Auril don't. And let it be better as she does now than nothing will.
Beyound Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 There is ways of getting around such slow downloads from download managers to proxies to even premium generating download sites and of course torrent.If you don't have the patience to wait for downloads how is that Auril forcing you go to go VIP on her site especially when there is fast ways to download mentioned above.This kind of argument shown up before and each time it's impatient people. And for the record the majority of people that donated including myself did so because we believe Auril should get something for her hard work.Hearing the same compliant about downloads. About how it forces you to pay. Seriously unless someone is holding a gun to your head you shouldn't be using such a flimsy excuse.Ugh....
LordJerle Posted July 17, 2013 Author Posted July 17, 2013 There is ways of getting around such slow downloads from download managers to proxies to even premium generating download sites and of course torrent. If you don't have the patience to wait for downloads how is that Auril forcing you go to go VIP on her site especially when there is fast ways to download mentioned above. This kind of argument shown up before and each time it's impatient people. And for the record the majority of people that donated including myself did so because we believe Auril should get something for her hard work. Hearing the same compliant about downloads. About how it forces you to pay. Seriously unless someone is holding a gun to your head you shouldn't be using such a flimsy excuse. Ugh.... Still not downloading the new one
ObrinMRtel Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 I didn't tell you to download anything. You just don't understand....
Degeneracy Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 There is ways of getting around such slow downloads from download managers to proxies to even premium generating download sites and of course torrent. If you don't have the patience to wait for downloads how is that Auril forcing you go to go VIP on her site especially when there is fast ways to download mentioned above. This kind of argument shown up before and each time it's impatient people. And for the record the majority of people that donated including myself did so because we believe Auril should get something for her hard work. Hearing the same compliant about downloads. About how it forces you to pay. Seriously unless someone is holding a gun to your head you shouldn't be using such a flimsy excuse. Going through this method is the same as using a torrent, the reason she gets paid from these sites is people who pay to have 'Unlimited' downloads/speeds. The reason it forces you to go VIP is that you will never pay to download using 'Unlimited' method(unless you already have subbed for the dl site, but given she changed it why would you pay the dl site in case she changes again[Just looked at main site, back to exibit...), but rather go for her VIP donation status. Which give you a better download site, better access, and possibly the game goes VIP only, all of which push you into donating. I would go on but if you can't understand the dilemma then you won't understand anything we say.
Mouse Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 It does not force you to do anything. I have never paid anything for those downloads and I have no problems getting the game. I just need some patience and not expect the download to finish in ten minutes or such. So just please stop being ADHD and download it for free by using the slow mode. Or quit complaining. Your choice.
Beyound Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 There is ways of getting around such slow downloads from download managers to proxies to even premium generating download sites and of course torrent. If you don't have the patience to wait for downloads how is that Auril forcing you go to go VIP on her site especially when there is fast ways to download mentioned above. This kind of argument shown up before and each time it's impatient people. And for the record the majority of people that donated including myself did so because we believe Auril should get something for her hard work. Hearing the same compliant about downloads. About how it forces you to pay. Seriously unless someone is holding a gun to your head you shouldn't be using such a flimsy excuse. Going through this method is the same as using a torrent, the reason she gets paid from these sites is people who pay to have 'Unlimited' downloads/speeds. The reason it forces you to go VIP is that you will never pay to download using 'Unlimited' method(unless you already have subbed for the dl site, but given she changed it why would you pay the dl site in case she changes again[Just looked at main site, back to exibit...), but rather go for her VIP donation status. Which give you a better download site, better access, and possibly the game goes VIP only, all of which push you into donating. I would go on but if you can't understand the dilemma then you won't understand anything we say. I didn't say for you to pay for going premium on any download site nor does anyone else. And the reason why it was changed was because her account got deleted. Which believe it or not happens a lot since the game is classed as pornographic. So there goes one part of your argument. The only reason you know of VIP's having faster downloads is through me, And the reason for faster downloads for VIP users is to lessen the time for the amount of Beta's we have to download. Auril has only ever said you get access to the Beta forum and Gallery if your VIP nothing else. And if you seriously think getting better "access" is a reason then your barking up the wrong tree. Beta forums sometimes you can be talking downloading the same episode 10 - 15 times over a month play testing and helping improve the game or finding bugs or crashes. Then it is released to everyone for the price of free. Also if the game goes VIP do you really think in this day in age that a game can stay private even if only VIP's get it? -facepalm- You are getting the game for free that is beta tested and continuous improved upon, and yet complain that you should be getting more stuff for free. Edit: I've explained enough on this that it should be clear and obvious by now, if i haven't sorry. Don't need stress of trying to convince people that they don't have to do anything they don't want to or have to. I didn't tell you to download anything. You just don't understand.... Quoting me and saying "Still not downloading the new one". Now that comes across as i'm trying to make him download the game. If you can pull another meaning from it, do share instead of adding vague a comment.
LordJerle Posted July 18, 2013 Author Posted July 18, 2013 There is ways of getting around such slow downloads from download managers to proxies to even premium generating download sites and of course torrent. If you don't have the patience to wait for downloads how is that Auril forcing you go to go VIP on her site especially when there is fast ways to download mentioned above. This kind of argument shown up before and each time it's impatient people. And for the record the majority of people that donated including myself did so because we believe Auril should get something for her hard work. Hearing the same compliant about downloads. About how it forces you to pay. Seriously unless someone is holding a gun to your head you shouldn't be using such a flimsy excuse. Going through this method is the same as using a torrent, the reason she gets paid from these sites is people who pay to have 'Unlimited' downloads/speeds. The reason it forces you to go VIP is that you will never pay to download using 'Unlimited' method(unless you already have subbed for the dl site, but given she changed it why would you pay the dl site in case she changes again[Just looked at main site, back to exibit...), but rather go for her VIP donation status. Which give you a better download site, better access, and possibly the game goes VIP only, all of which push you into donating. I would go on but if you can't understand the dilemma then you won't understand anything we say. I didn't say for you to pay for going premium on any download site nor does anyone else. And the reason why it was changed was because her account got deleted. Which believe it or not happens a lot since the game is classed as pornographic. So there goes one part of your argument. The only reason you know of VIP's having faster downloads is through me, And the reason for faster downloads for VIP users is to lessen the time for the amount of Beta's we have to download. Auril has only ever said you get access to the Beta forum and Gallery if your VIP nothing else. And if you seriously think getting better "access" is a reason then your barking up the wrong tree. Beta forums sometimes you can be talking downloading the same episode 10 - 15 times over a month play testing and helping improve the game or finding bugs or crashes. Then it is released to everyone for the price of free. Also if the game goes VIP do you really think in this day in age that a game can stay private even if only VIP's get it? -facepalm- You are getting the game for free that is beta tested and continuous improved upon, and yet complain that you should be getting more stuff for free. Edit: I've explained enough on this that it should be clear and obvious by now, if i haven't sorry. Don't need stress of trying to convince people that they don't have to do anything they don't want to or have to. I didn't tell you to download anything. You just don't understand.... Quoting me and saying "Still not downloading the new one". Now that comes across as i'm trying to make him download the game. If you can pull another meaning from it, do share instead of adding vague a comment. Let me explain my motivation ever more clearly for you then. I don't pirate games, and I don't support smug people who blatantly try to circumvent a licensing agreement such as the one in the UDK by third party profiting. Whether or not she's profiting from a third party source, she's still profiting. On top of that, she's asking for "donations" which make you part of a VIP club, which is, in reality, direct profit. If she wants my money, by whatever means, she'll get the $80 license, display the agreement on her page, and give the cut she's required to give as somebody who's profiting from the UDK. The crap she's pulling only serves to reduce the chances of a new and improved version, or even worse, they'll take it down, revoke the freeware licensing, and perform legal action against people who use it from then on. Is that clear enough?
Endiness Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 I was just curious as to what kind of money someone could earn off of this. http://extabit.com/faq.jsp#faq_1_2 has the pricing plans. You probably won't get anywhere near the amounts per 1000 downloads without getting premium sales. After reading it over, I would bet money they wouldn't pay more than $.25 (I consider this extremely generous) per 1000 downloads for 0 premium sales considering Extabit didn't make any money off of you. Business is business.
Beyound Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 I agree that pirating and profiting from it is a douche move. But there has not been any information as to where Auril has or has not bought a license. Also the fact you don't take costs of doing such a project into consideration from up keep of stuff from broadband to electricity to site upkeep. Judging without information on how much is spent or earned and even if there is a profit made from it or even if their own money is put into it. If you want the information why not get in contact with Auril yourself then make a judgement based on actual information.
WrythePhokas Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 Sorry to break into the extabit party, but I downloaded and installed the game but can't figure out how to start it :/ I can't find an application other than the uninstall application and somehow I don't think it starts the game... Halp.
LordJerle Posted July 18, 2013 Author Posted July 18, 2013 I agree that pirating and profiting from it is a douche move. But there has not been any information as to where Auril has or has not bought a license. Also the fact you don't take costs of doing such a project into consideration from up keep of stuff from broadband to electricity to site upkeep. Judging without information on how much is spent or earned and even if there is a profit made from it or even if their own money is put into it. If you want the information why not get in contact with Auril yourself then make a judgement based on actual information. Once she posts the proof of licensing on her page, I'll consider giving her my money.
Beyound Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 Sorry to break into the extabit party, but I downloaded and installed the game but can't figure out how to start it :/ I can't find an application other than the uninstall application and somehow I don't think it starts the game... Halp. You need to find a file called UDK.exe it will start it up for you.
WrythePhokas Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 Will check that when I get back from work - thanks.
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