Jaxon Hellsing Posted July 11 Posted July 11 34 minutes ago, Excell said: Well yeah, that's the whole point of the mod. It doesn't have it's own models though, you would have to get them yourself. Seems like most people would use TBox's and Jackal's mods as the modder posted discord links in the discription. I have V-Skin, but the controls don't do anything in game with it.
Excell Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) I have no idea what that is, so I can't help ya. But so long as the JSON files are converted, in the correct spot, and you run the manifestlist it should work... Maybe try to make sure your mod works without this mod. The 1.0 update may have broke something Edited July 11 by Excell
juanito09 Posted July 13 Posted July 13 When I run manifest list, this is what I get; I don't know if it's wrong, but nothing happens when using the commands.
ShadyKitsune Posted July 13 Posted July 13 2 hours ago, juanito09 said: When I run manifest list, this is what I get; I don't know if it's wrong, but nothing happens when using the commands. Do you have the converted files from SwapJSON in the new ModelJSON folder while trying this?
juanito09 Posted July 13 Posted July 13 No, I'm using the one from this BakkasvSkin mod, which is already converted to ModelJSON.
Bootyman467 Posted July 14 Posted July 14 (edited) Can we use both Palmagic and dynamic Pals at the same time? I get a crash with dynamic Pals when changing skins. The only skin replacer I have is Bakka's skin and Primal Pals. Edited July 14 by Bootyman467
Msurikqp79 Posted Friday at 07:47 AM Posted Friday at 07:47 AM (edited) On 7/13/2026 at 10:56 PM, Bootyman467 said: Can we use both Palmagic and dynamic Pals at the same time? I get a crash with dynamic Pals when changing skins. The only skin replacer I have is Bakka's skin and Primal Pals. you can but it would be redundant bloat, additionally the crashes should be fixed now Edited Friday at 07:47 AM by Msurikqp79 1
Harby94 Posted Friday at 07:13 PM Posted Friday at 07:13 PM So was this just made to spite the SCake guy or is there a benefit to this over Altermatic?
ShadyKitsune Posted Friday at 07:19 PM Posted Friday at 07:19 PM 3 minutes ago, Harby94 said: So was this just made to spite the SCake guy or is there a benefit to this over Altermatic? Excerpt from one of his recent version updates: PalMagic v0.2 What's new Support for ShapeKeys/Morphs, they will be applied randomly to wild Pals and the settings will be saved for Player owned Pals, Captured Pals will be saved with the settings they are caught with, A cap of 1000 saved Pals was implemented to avoid making a massive save file, giving priority to the recently used ones Otherwise, the intent: i wanted to first deliver a Minimum Viable Product for people to be able to start adopting PalMagic should they like it just so people are aware of what i personally intend to implement into PalMagic over time, here's a roadmap some ideas are mine, some are from other modders, and some are from the community - Save the selected random skin of wild Pals when caught (This feature needs also a way for me to clean the persist file so it doesn't gets huge when people catch a billion Cattivas for their condensing purposes) - Morphs, as well as saving said morph values in the persist file - More skin conditions, like temperature, HP values, Rank, etc - Skin weights so people can make the skin more or less likely to be selected for randomly - Skin locks (?) so a Pal gets locked in that skin and cannot be changed if desired to lock it - FNV-1a for skin hashing - Replication (whereas possible) of skins via the previous hashing (ie. all people who are in a multiplayer game can see the same skin if all players have it available) - Proper saving of multiplayer game persist files (Currently all of the client sessions will be saved in a single file) - Support of special/compatible skeleton models (this is in very heavy research, and may or may not work, but i will do my best to research it)
Harby94 Posted Friday at 07:27 PM Posted Friday at 07:27 PM I just want to use a mod because it's actually better, and not just because people don't like the 'other guy.' Like, as much of an ass as Arthmoor is, I'm still gonna use USSEP because it's an (overall) good mod.
ShadyKitsune Posted Friday at 10:13 PM Posted Friday at 10:13 PM 2 hours ago, Harby94 said: I just want to use a mod because it's actually better, and not just because people don't like the 'other guy.' Like, as much of an ass as Arthmoor is, I'm still gonna use USSEP because it's an (overall) good mod. Well considering one is being made with a document for open source editing and redistribution to allow you to see what's in it as a public user, and the other will randomly include malicious code in his framework just because he doesn't like someone, while hiding said source, I'm more than fine trading for a sidegrade with potentially less future problems than the former just because its been around longer.
ibleedmonster2 Posted Saturday at 08:15 AM Posted Saturday at 08:15 AM (edited) 12 hours ago, Harby94 said: I just want to use a mod because it's actually better, and not just because people don't like the 'other guy.' Like, as much of an ass as Arthmoor is, I'm still gonna use USSEP because it's an (overall) good mod. so not to stir the pot, but im gonna stir the pot... tbox, jackal and the rest dont care if you use thier mods, or if you use thier mods with other ppls mods... the makers of altermatic, unipal and etc do not want ppl from tbox, jackalpals, zendragons,etc communities to use thier tools, they will even kick you from thier discord if they know you use thier "competitors" mods. this happened to me, i had nothing to do with whatever drama they have/had just was simply a member of both disco and got kicked as they "purged" ppl and made shitastic disclaimers on thier downloads pages they then quit updating to add a further roadblock... meanwhile, everything on the other side of the fence is fine, just working around the roadblocks and improving the tools as they go. also Arthmoor is a G, always has been, always will be. hes also extremely helpful if you talk to him and dont overwhelm him. Ive had many convos with him over the years. very knowledgable leahzard. Edited Saturday at 08:17 AM by ibleedmonster2
LustyLucy Posted Saturday at 08:41 AM Posted Saturday at 08:41 AM 25 minutes ago, ibleedmonster2 said: so not to stir the pot, but im gonna stir the pot... tbox, jackal and the rest dont care if you use thier mods, or if you use thier mods with other ppls mods... the makers of altermatic, unipal and etc do not want ppl from tbox, jackalpals, zendragons,etc communities to use thier tools, they will even kick you from thier discord if they know you use thier "competitors" mods. this happened to me, i had nothing to do with whatever drama they have/had just was simply a member of both disco and got kicked as they "purged" ppl and made shitastic disclaimers on thier downloads pages they then quit updating to add a further roadblock... meanwhile, everything on the other side of the fence is fine, just working around the roadblocks and improving the tools as they go. also Arthmoor is a G, always has been, always will be. hes also extremely helpful if you talk to him and dont overwhelm him. Ive had many convos with him over the years. very knowledgable leahzard. Yeah, it's a shame seeing this modding community be the hellscape that it is. 1
Spirit_Shard Posted Saturday at 09:21 AM Posted Saturday at 09:21 AM 57 minutes ago, ibleedmonster2 said: so not to stir the pot, but im gonna stir the pot... tbox, jackal and the rest dont care if you use thier mods, or if you use thier mods with other ppls mods... the makers of altermatic, unipal and etc do not want ppl from tbox, jackalpals, zendragons,etc communities to use thier tools, they will even kick you from thier discord if they know you use thier "competitors" mods. this happened to me, i had nothing to do with whatever drama they have/had just was simply a member of both disco and got kicked as they "purged" ppl and made shitastic disclaimers on thier downloads pages they then quit updating to add a further roadblock... meanwhile, everything on the other side of the fence is fine, just working around the roadblocks and improving the tools as they go. also Arthmoor is a G, always has been, always will be. hes also extremely helpful if you talk to him and dont overwhelm him. Ive had many convos with him over the years. very knowledgable leahzard. You seem to have this backwards, as the developer of Altermatic, I can assure you we don't care about whatever mods you use and Altermatic is specifically designed so that users have the most control possible. It's why we come up with the JSON format and methods to begin with, OK Framework required mod makers to specifically define how the swap would be used and how it was set-up, but we wanted something more freeing and put users in control of how their game looked and felt. We've had people in our community make all sorts of configs for mods from all over the place, even mods from those who are hostile to us, and we continue to try our best to help the community do so. We have people in our community who also use mods from the people you mentioned, we don't care, just don't try and use then to start drama or whatever. Also, we're still updating our frameworks and such, idk what you mean by "then quit updating", the newest versions are available on my website and our forums and have always been posted to our discord as well. If you mean the LL pages, they were temporarily hidden to reduce drama, and of course when they returned we then had to immediately deal with drama again. >.> People need to chill out and stop trying to hate everyone all the time. There's this strange obsession with creating 'villians' in everything and creating 'us versus them' tribes as an excuse to be mean to one another. We just want to mod in peace, use whatever mods you want, just don't engage in or support these hostile behaviors. There is no fence, the fence is made up to try and keep things divided, if you take a step through you'll realize you can access both pastures.
pupfluff Posted Saturday at 04:38 PM Posted Saturday at 04:38 PM 8 hours ago, ibleedmonster2 said: so not to stir the pot, but im gonna stir the pot... tbox, jackal and the rest dont care if you use thier mods, or if you use thier mods with other ppls mods... the makers of altermatic, unipal and etc do not want ppl from tbox, jackalpals, zendragons,etc communities to use thier tools, they will even kick you from thier discord if they know you use thier "competitors" mods. this happened to me, i had nothing to do with whatever drama they have/had just was simply a member of both disco and got kicked as they "purged" ppl and made shitastic disclaimers on thier downloads pages they then quit updating to add a further roadblock... meanwhile, everything on the other side of the fence is fine, just working around the roadblocks and improving the tools as they go. also Arthmoor is a G, always has been, always will be. hes also extremely helpful if you talk to him and dont overwhelm him. Ive had many convos with him over the years. very knowledgable leahzard. Oh you were also kicked? I've heard multiple people talk about it until it happened to me and is arthmoor really sensible? the skyrim community speak worst of him than people here do of spirit 😭 1
Agent355 Posted Saturday at 05:30 PM Posted Saturday at 05:30 PM There is an entire Down the Rabbit Hole dedicated to what a shithead Arthmoor is, so I'm pretty doubtful of this person's claim that they're cool actually haha.
DoctaSax Posted Saturday at 06:56 PM Posted Saturday at 06:56 PM Let's keep this poor thread out of all that, please. Edit: I meant it, you know. By OP's request.
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