Z3N-DrAGON Posted June 2 Posted June 2 Hello all! I would like to inform you that I have taken down both Project JZ and my animation pack indefinitely from LoversLab. It is simply impossible for me to continue with the amount of toxicity emanating from a certain individual, poisoning the Palworld NSFW modding community. Small disclaimer: the redistribution of one or more components of any of my mods is not allowed under any circumstance You can always chat with me, get help with the mods and have more insight on what happened over on Jackal's Den discord (link: https://discord.gg/w5j4ejtyWy) Please do not start any short of drama in the comments 2
Ronnie21093 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 Unfortunate but understandable. I hope this doesn't dissuade you from continuing to make a great mod!
Palpetinus Posted June 2 Posted June 2 Man, am I glad I got all the content I need before all of this, that way I can just come back in a year or two when all the whiny modders crying over mean words on the internet finally get their shit together. 2
Agathrrr Posted June 2 Posted June 2 hmm... sorry my english isn't that good... so let me refrain please, so I know what's happening... because I just came back 2 days ago to palworld... So there is a guy, who made platform scripts and invited everyone to take part in it and releasing their own part of the "cake" Then the OT wrote, please no drama in this thread, but everyone here fires against that guy.... the OT also wrote, don't share the stuff they made, so everyone who starts today... tomorrow... in 2 days, 3 days, 1 week, 2 weeks, 1month..... isn't allowed to participate on their part of the work on this community thing.... And then people praise the OT for the "good move" and the third even just piracy the systems which are anyway free to download on the creators website, his google drive and so on for everyone... while the OT just asked for no piracy. How I said, my english isn't very good especially youthspeak, I usually talk to mature people in my age... but that's the essence so far of that thread right? 1
sick_memes Posted June 3 Posted June 3 Really cool that every fucking modding scene devolves into endless toxicity The game isn't even out yet and everyone already hates eachother 1
ShadyKitsune Posted June 3 Posted June 3 12 minutes ago, sick_memes said: Really cool that every fucking modding scene devolves into endless toxicity The game isn't even out yet and everyone already hates eachother Eh, more specifically, everybody hates a self proclaimed victim. Can dish it out, but definitely can't take it in the slightest, even perceived (no one has actually said anything to the guy, he just views very mundane actions as attacks against him personally). 4
Algene Posted June 3 Posted June 3 8 hours ago, sick_memes said: Really cool that every fucking modding scene devolves into endless toxicity The game isn't even out yet and everyone already hates eachother Meh, if any future modder reads this: NEVER FUCKING MAKE A DISCORD 2
RagnaBlade Posted June 8 Posted June 8 Given how they reacted to Jackals (T-Box? I forget who it was exactly, but I saw ZDragon freak the fuck out like they were caught doing something illegal) ban from the Creaters Server for saying some 'really' dodgy shit, I'm glad and they won't be missed. It is unfortunate that people seem to get upset when they get banned for saying something racist or ablest or the like, and then they call the ones banning them the villain's as being "the toxic ones" when they themselves where the toxic ones. gotta love over-reactions...
Z3N-DrAGON Posted June 8 Author Posted June 8 1 hour ago, RagnaBlade said: Given how they reacted to Jackals (T-Box? I forget who it was exactly, but I saw ZDragon freak the fuck out like they were caught doing something illegal) ban from the Creaters Server for saying some 'really' dodgy shit, I'm glad and they won't be missed. It is unfortunate that people seem to get upset when they get banned for saying something racist or ablest or the like, and then they call the ones banning them the villain's as being "the toxic ones" when they themselves where the toxic ones. gotta love over-reactions... You clearly have no idea about what has transpired, have you? 1
RagnaBlade Posted June 8 Posted June 8 37 minutes ago, Z3N-DrAGON said: You clearly have no idea about what has transpired, have you? I heard one side of it, and I saw what you said and did when you left. at least as far as T-Box is concerned he just wants to move on to the point of banning anyone bringing it up or trying to start Drama, which I can respect.
Z3N-DrAGON Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 6 hours ago, RagnaBlade said: I heard one side of it, and I saw what you said and did when you left. at least as far as T-Box is concerned he just wants to move on to the point of banning anyone bringing it up or trying to start Drama, which I can respect. Could always fill you in on the rest, if you are interested. In my opinion, for a situation like this, just sweeping things under the rug (or playing it off like "trolling") and moving on is not the best way forward.
Algene Posted June 9 Posted June 9 can't you all guys go and say "sorry we're a bunch of horny people with too much blood on our dicks/tits and no enough in our brains so X thing should be left in the past"? unless there's a corpse I doubt you can't compose things back, I remember back when I was helping, people in a drug recovery center or whatever is called in english even tried to kill eachother but in the end they understood unity is really the only way to even survive 1
Z3N-DrAGON Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 6 minutes ago, Algene said: can't you all guys go and say "sorry we're a bunch of horny people with too much blood on our dicks/tits and no enough in our brains so X thing should be left in the past"? unless there's a corpse I doubt you can't compose things back, I remember back when I was helping, people in a drug recovery center or whatever is called in english even tried to kill eachother but in the end they understood unity is really the only way to even survive Excuse me but I will not apologize for something I didn't do, my dear. Also after the latest debacle, the ship has sailed and I will not bother making content for SCake anymore. Too far is too far
Algene Posted June 9 Posted June 9 Ya, thought so, in fact doubt anyone thinks they did anything wrong as usual, long story short we have to wait for another completely unaffiliated "faction" makes their own way to lewd pals
ddmdsc Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) On 6/8/2026 at 2:31 PM, RagnaBlade said: Given how they reacted to Jackals (T-Box? I forget who it was exactly, but I saw ZDragon freak the fuck out like they were caught doing something illegal) ban from the Creaters Server for saying some 'really' dodgy shit, I'm glad and they won't be missed. It is unfortunate that people seem to get upset when they get banned for saying something racist or ablest or the like, and then they call the ones banning them the villain's as being "the toxic ones" when they themselves where the toxic ones. gotta love over-reactions... I might have to point out the dude banned me just cuz i posted in the jackel den trying to affirm my understanding of the situation lol Instead of actually talking to me and correcting me and proving anything else, only showing the person is banning others willy nilly over the dumbest things which is what exactly happened to me. And id figure id bring a receipt so its not all just "Oh hes saying it to say it" This was my first time ever posting in any of the servers btw. I didnt quite understand the situation so i was asking to make sure i was correct in my thought process of what was going on. I have blotched out the names for privacy reasons. As you can see, i noticed me even asking in the server got me banned 2 minutes after i had even "DARED" to ask what was going on, in another server. Edited June 9 by ddmdsc
Agathrrr Posted June 10 Posted June 10 I don't care really for "who insulted who" or "who banned who" It's pretty simple overall... the older versions even down to 0.0.1 are available in the archive of the original creator of sCake... so it was NEVER gone, just the URL changed for directly here to a googledrive. That this change will come and even instructions can be read in the news of sCake Discord and got ignored for months.... and now the creators were called to action, possible solutions: just investing a bit time and updating the jsons like other animations creators did aswell, or getting help with that (for example I made fixed jsons for the new version because I made something like a AI controlled converter for that) Or.... they could have just changed the link in their animations download pages here with the googledrive into the right archive folder. And yeah, of course it's suspicious if someone just publishes something they didn't work on, just to spread the rumor that "the old version is no more available!" while it is. The Real thing is, Jez-Dragon hurts not Michael from sCake, because he works on a universal solution for ALL Unreal Games, so he is as you all can imagine really unimpressed and just continues his work in another games community for tests instead of focusing on palworld. The real Victims are thousands of palworld adult mod users, Jez-dragon did a so well job, that noone else started to work on an alternative, and now there we're... 1 month before the official release, no time to build now an alternative and hundreds of thousands people who start to play again, will check this board here and see: oh... there is a complete system for adult stuff, but the matching meshes are gone.... ok so nothing to see here! So I don't see the problem from the creator of scake.... especially not after that move of just releasing his work without his agreement while this whole thread here is made to say by the other side "don't reupload my stuff" it's like someone shooting with a gun while he yells "don't shoot me". and ddmdsc... I can see your frustration there, but I talked to michael an he seem to be a relative cold headed guy.... but if I would lead a discord and 2-3 times a day, someone asks exactly these questions.... and then there comes someone with a catalogue of all these several times answered questions again... I may would have banned you too... not because it's wrong to ask... but because I would feel like I get "mentally troll ddos'ed" And to answer your question on the screen: if you're banned for asking these questions... who could you have wrote exactly the last message then? So.... stop the trolling and act like an adult on a website for adult content.... this whole behaviour is completly destructive and hits the wrong targets for something like a personal difference. And to make it clear: I don't know what exactly happened .... but I'm also not interested into answers of that.... drama and conflicts have to get solved between these who have this conflict, this whole "here look how bad xy is, lets push him out" is exactly what destroys the whole online culture. 3
ddmdsc Posted June 11 Posted June 11 43 minutes ago, Agathrrr said: I don't care really for "who insulted who" or "who banned who" It's pretty simple overall... the older versions even down to 0.0.1 are available in the archive of the original creator of sCake... so it was NEVER gone, just the URL changed for directly here to a googledrive. That this change will come and even instructions can be read in the news of sCake Discord and got ignored for months.... and now the creators were called to action, possible solutions: just investing a bit time and updating the jsons like other animations creators did aswell, or getting help with that (for example I made fixed jsons for the new version because I made something like a AI controlled converter for that) Or.... they could have just changed the link in their animations download pages here with the googledrive into the right archive folder. And yeah, of course it's suspicious if someone just publishes something they didn't work on, just to spread the rumor that "the old version is no more available!" while it is. The Real thing is, Jez-Dragon hurts not Michael from sCake, because he works on a universal solution for ALL Unreal Games, so he is as you all can imagine really unimpressed and just continues his work in another games community for tests instead of focusing on palworld. The real Victims are thousands of palworld adult mod users, Jez-dragon did a so well job, that noone else started to work on an alternative, and now there we're... 1 month before the official release, no time to build now an alternative and hundreds of thousands people who start to play again, will check this board here and see: oh... there is a complete system for adult stuff, but the matching meshes are gone.... ok so nothing to see here! So I don't see the problem from the creator of scake.... especially not after that move of just releasing his work without his agreement while this whole thread here is made to say by the other side "don't reupload my stuff" it's like someone shooting with a gun while he yells "don't shoot me". and ddmdsc... I can see your frustration there, but I talked to michael an he seem to be a relative cold headed guy.... but if I would lead a discord and 2-3 times a day, someone asks exactly these questions.... and then there comes someone with a catalogue of all these several times answered questions again... I may would have banned you too... not because it's wrong to ask... but because I would feel like I get "mentally troll ddos'ed" And to answer your question on the screen: if you're banned for asking these questions... who could you have wrote exactly the last message then? So.... stop the trolling and act like an adult on a website for adult content.... this whole behaviour is completly destructive and hits the wrong targets for something like a personal difference. And to make it clear: I don't know what exactly happened .... but I'm also not interested into answers of that.... drama and conflicts have to get solved between these who have this conflict, this whole "here look how bad xy is, lets push him out" is exactly what destroys the whole online culture. So i have to know this... how exactly am i trolling by pointing out my own experience from my again VERY FIRST POST I EVER DID? I never posted to anything or anyone, i wanted confirmation on wtf was going on so i was not being mislead or mistaken, and if you took even an OUNCE of a second to actually read my post before trying to act like "mightier then thou". You woulda realized one little crucial detail immediately. That i had posted these questions ON THE OTHER SERVER which wasnt on Micheals SERVER at all. The other server HE LEFT because of previous drama and is obviously using an alt account to track ANYONE who posts anything or asking anything to ban them from HIS server. I wasn't posting on Micheals server, this was on the JackalDens Server that i asked this question. And i have even stated on Jackals server that i have no desire to take any sides, im not taking Jackals side, xMenars side, or hell even Micheals side. I have stated this a few times in Jackals server this one crucial key information. And that is the mature way to take things, especially when i have no gain in taking sides in this, honestly stupid drama. So how bout you actually be an adult, and fully read the information, rather then slinging labels because you didn't do your do diligence to actually understand the information. Thank you.
Agathrrr Posted June 11 Posted June 11 ok then I misunderstood you, and calm down... I didn't wanted to offend you any case... what I said is, how michael could see what you write, because I thought you asked these questions there.... because I already wanted to excuse that he may banned you, if you feel offended I'm sorry for that, I in my opinion would prefer if all of them on all sides would calm down and just doing their best to improve things. But I appologize for my mistake and that I made you feel offended (and tbh, these questions and all that would have been possible on michaels Discord aswell) I don't know the people on the other Discord.... I was a fan of their work but I'm deeply against their behaviour. So I hope you take my sorry as what it's meant.... at the end you and me have the same target I guess... to get everything together again and patch the problems in the community for the best experience for EVERYONE. Maybe I completly missunderstand what you posted there, I thought, that was a screenshot from a discord server, and so my question was, how you could have write that you got banned (or the person who wrote that) and still being able to add the last message.... And about the troll ddos'ing: I said it may feels like that for them, not that you try to troll anyone, so I'm sorry that you thought, that I said, that this is your intention. 1
ddmdsc Posted June 11 Posted June 11 7 hours ago, Agathrrr said: ok then I misunderstood you, and calm down... I didn't wanted to offend you any case... what I said is, how michael could see what you write, because I thought you asked these questions there.... because I already wanted to excuse that he may banned you, if you feel offended I'm sorry for that, I in my opinion would prefer if all of them on all sides would calm down and just doing their best to improve things. But I appologize for my mistake and that I made you feel offended (and tbh, these questions and all that would have been possible on michaels Discord aswell) I don't know the people on the other Discord.... I was a fan of their work but I'm deeply against their behaviour. So I hope you take my sorry as what it's meant.... at the end you and me have the same target I guess... to get everything together again and patch the problems in the community for the best experience for EVERYONE. Maybe I completly missunderstand what you posted there, I thought, that was a screenshot from a discord server, and so my question was, how you could have write that you got banned (or the person who wrote that) and still being able to add the last message.... And about the troll ddos'ing: I said it may feels like that for them, not that you try to troll anyone, so I'm sorry that you thought, that I said, that this is your intention. Its ok, thank you for actually trying to understand me. Like i said, i made my very first post at the jackals den server and i had kept quiet throughout everything, and i was trying to figure out what was going on. And by accounts from others, this isnt the first time Micheal has done this kinda thing, and he tends to do it ALOT to others for even posting on other servers, innocent bystanders who did nothing wrong. A cold headed person does not behave like this. In the end, it doesnt matter whos right and whos wrong, all of us just wanna enjoy the porn and like i said in the server and ill say it here too. Pocketpair owns the rights to their Palworld IP and could easily just nuke all this work like how Game Freak/Nintendo does for Pokemon. 1
Agathrrr Posted June 11 Posted June 11 I don't know Michael good enough to defend him completly... but I also don't need to... I had a talk with him and he gave me his opinion.... of course out of his view, he is the victim and that the other side is causing all that drama. But what he didn't do was, telling me much details, so as someone not involved I didn't had the feeling, that he tries to escalate that drama. On the other hand, the other side just takes everything down for everyone not involved... which is taking thousands of peoples as hostages in a private dispute... and that's a nogo. I also modded in the past, just never in a unreal engine based game (well I did a very simple mod once for ark, but that's it) and so I also ran sometimes into drama, but that never, nowhere ended with the result "i take my stuff offline and noone can get it anymore muahahaha" because reality isn't a Disney production with super villains. Usually it ended with, both sides who had dramas tried to work harder and better and were trying to replace others mod solution with their own... and that was at the end good for the community not a completly block for the community. I mean... I don't have to care... I was so lucky that I just downloaded everything one day before all that drama started.... so I got the stuff... it's just sad for everyone else who came to late.... And what you said about the Palworld IP is not entirely correct, (i feel old now) a court decided decades ago FOR the Modder community, that happened when Ultima Online Freeshards were a big thing, and here are the borders: You're NOT allowed to manipulate or change FILES in a game if the rightholder doesn't allows it.... so editing the main palworld pak file or the executive file or something like that, would be something they can stop. But aslong as you only add files or completly replace files with 100% self/community made ones, you're safe and they cannot stop you doing that. These Mods here could get stopped from Youth safety NGO's because it could be, that children get these contents.... but that's a thing which you have to care for as publisher (in this case Loverslab) and all adult pics are hidden even the direct links are not able to watch unless you have an registered account here and verified your age... so content posted here, no matter what it is, is safe aslong as it doesn't break any laws.
ANiceDayOutside Posted June 11 Posted June 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, Agathrrr said: I don't know Michael good enough to defend him completly... but I also don't need to... I had a talk with him and he gave me his opinion.... of course out of his view, he is the victim and that the other side is causing all that drama. But what he didn't do was, telling me much details, so as someone not involved I didn't had the feeling, that he tries to escalate that drama. On the other hand, the other side just takes everything down for everyone not involved... which is taking thousands of peoples as hostages in a private dispute... and that's a nogo. I also modded in the past, just never in a unreal engine based game (well I did a very simple mod once for ark, but that's it) and so I also ran sometimes into drama, but that never, nowhere ended with the result "i take my stuff offline and noone can get it anymore muahahaha" because reality isn't a Disney production with super villains. Usually it ended with, both sides who had dramas tried to work harder and better and were trying to replace others mod solution with their own... and that was at the end good for the community not a completly block for the community. I mean... I don't have to care... I was so lucky that I just downloaded everything one day before all that drama started.... so I got the stuff... it's just sad for everyone else who came to late.... And what you said about the Palworld IP is not entirely correct, (i feel old now) a court decided decades ago FOR the Modder community, that happened when Ultima Online Freeshards were a big thing, and here are the borders: You're NOT allowed to manipulate or change FILES in a game if the rightholder doesn't allows it.... so editing the main palworld pak file or the executive file or something like that, would be something they can stop. But aslong as you only add files or completly replace files with 100% self/community made ones, you're safe and they cannot stop you doing that. These Mods here could get stopped from Youth safety NGO's because it could be, that children get these contents.... but that's a thing which you have to care for as publisher (in this case Loverslab) and all adult pics are hidden even the direct links are not able to watch unless you have an registered account here and verified your age... so content posted here, no matter what it is, is safe aslong as it doesn't break any laws. Michael absolutely has been escalating the drama. He posted an image in his discord saying that menar (the creator of many animations) had uploaded a virus-filled reupload of the previous version of scake. I ran it through virustotal and found no malicious activity. Furthermore, I ran it through malwarebytes (on my computer) and found no malicious activity. Michael provides no proof for this and is actively just dragging out the drama for the sake of it. I agree that the sides need to compromise somehow, but Michael is fanning the flames here. Edited June 11 by ANiceDayOutside 1
slippyfist Posted June 11 Posted June 11 All this drama over a bunch of erotic mods is absolutely retarded. I get that modding is a lot of work as I used to be part of the modding scene for another game myself, but at the end of the day you're not creating something revolutionary that'll change the gaming scene forever that you're going to present to a bunch of shareholders and lead you to wealth beyond your wildest imaginations. They're a bunch of porn mods for gooners who just want to beat their meat to their character fucking their favorite monsters in Palworld. 3
Ban2300 Posted June 11 Posted June 11 ... So what's stopping Z3N-drAGON and Spirit_Shard from talking things out civilly like actual adults and patching things up? 1
ANiceDayOutside Posted June 11 Posted June 11 13 minutes ago, slippyfist said: All this drama over a bunch of erotic mods is absolutely retarded. I get that modding is a lot of work as I used to be part of the modding scene for another game myself, but at the end of the day you're not creating something revolutionary that'll change the gaming scene forever that you're going to present to a bunch of shareholders and lead you to wealth beyond your wildest imaginations. They're a bunch of porn mods for gooners who just want to beat their meat to their character fucking their favorite monsters in Palworld. The idea of presenting a palworld sex mod to investors is incredibly funny though, you have to admit. 3
Z3N-DrAGON Posted June 11 Author Posted June 11 28 minutes ago, Ban2300 said: ... So what's stopping Z3N-drAGON and Spirit_Shard from talking things out civilly like actual adults and patching things up? Primarily the fact that I have exactly 0 trust in Michael anymore... Plenty of other things but at this point it's beating a dead horse so I won't bother going over the rest again
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