michigobbi Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Hello, male genitalia and female boobs (sometimes only genitalia) are cratching during all animations load order Lovers with PK.esm Oblivion.esm CustomRaceFix.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp OblivionMsg.esp Knights.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCVileLair.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp LoversLight.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp Elves Of Lineage II.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPayBandit.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversMB2.esp brumafix.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp utilities: OBSE 0.0.21.4 OBMM 1.1.11 pluggy 132. Male and female body replacers were installed via obmm, BSA redirection was set: and i've installed only LAPF and supplemental pack 1
fejeena Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 have you read ? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/21242-lovers-supplemental-plugin-pack/?do=findComment&comment=664915 Have you hecked your Skeleton size ? in data\characters\_male It must be 95kb. If not = no LAPF Skeletons = stretching boobs and penis
michigobbi Posted January 31, 2014 Author Posted January 31, 2014 yes, thank you, but it didnt help. i think it's about body replacers, withoot them animations are okay, but i dont know how to fix it their size is 95. My body replacers are .omod files and after installing them in the _male folder appear lots of .nif files. Then i copy those 2 skeletons again, but nothing changes
fejeena Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Lovers use his own lower Body during set so there should be no penis stretching. The stretching boobs is strange. Do you use a very old Body replacer ? moving breasts (instead odf BBB) or a Body replacer with very rare Body meshes which have breast bones instead of Op bones in the nif. Why don't you use the Body Mod which is suggested in the LAPF installation instructions http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/354-lapf/ Male http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/40532/ Female http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/34442/ (and female foot fix http://www.loverslab.com/topic/9488-rel-hgec-gm-type-with-roberts-feet/ ) !!! the feamale Body relacer has Skeletons so you must install the LAPF Skeletons again !!!
michigobbi Posted January 31, 2014 Author Posted January 31, 2014 i used those you suggest me now. when i activate HGEC omod file, should i choose "no animation" first/ then "special nude"/ then which body type? and i dont understand which files to copy when i want to change male's body type: charachters/RT/bodytypes/"selected one"/nude and copy all of them to _male folder? and what about MuscFullBody.nif (or others)? and installation order is male bodies, female bodies, LAPF , supplemental pack right?
fejeena Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Male: the full body meshes are only for watching in NifSkope. ignore ! You need Folders meshes\characters\_male meshes\characters\argonian meshes\characters\darkelf meshes\characters\khajiit If you want another Body type select on of the RT Folders, the nude Folder ! copy/past the foot, Hand, upperbody and lowerbody in meshes\characters\_male the tail.nif in meshes\characters\argonian the khajiittail.nif in meshes\characters\khajiit If you want the Circumcised lowerbody you must rename the lowerbodyCircumcised.nif to lowerbody.nif and put it in meshes\characters\_male Female: ??? I never used the install program. I unpacked the Omod and installed what I like. Without Animations ! I use NoMaam animations (Link in the LAPF installation instructions) In "special nude" are Special Body types like DM, GUTS, H Cup Version A, BDM, UHK, ..... If you want a normal HGEC Body you can ignore the "special nude", the only interesting Body is "HGEC Hcup VerB (More bouncy)" So I think you must choose "no Animation" and then select your Body type (HGEC B,C,D,E or H Cup and lowerbody S,M,L or LL ) best for Lovers animations is upperbody H Cup and LL lowerbody. ( or specal nude "HGEC Hcup VerB (More bouncy)" this Body has the LL lowerbody ) And the foot fix ( Link in the LAPF installation instructions) the femalefoot.nif must be in meshes\characters\_male
michigobbi Posted January 31, 2014 Author Posted January 31, 2014 i did as you say, but male isnt nude after copy/past and still have problem with stretching penis in animations ( oh and i also change skeletons back as you said) i tried musc and average and male stil underweared, it's not getting naked =D but it's stretching
fejeena Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Male.7z LAPF male.7z Male.7z install the textures Folder in your data Folder. open "Average" or "Musc" Folder and install the meshes Folder in your data Folder. Activate your MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp in the Modmanager. LAPF male.7z install the meshes Folder in your data Folder. (LAPF Skeleton and controlable 1stperson Skeleton ) open "Roberts Male Muscular (Default)" or "Roberts Male Average" Folder and install the meshes Folder in your data Folder.
michigobbi Posted February 1, 2014 Author Posted February 1, 2014 I have even reinstalled the game, but male are still underweared and stretching in animations
gregathit Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 You need to use OBMM or Wyre and archive invalidate via bsa redirection.
gregathit Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Then you've done something wrong somewhere along the line. Skeleton or some other thing. You did install the recommended bodies that are listed in the LAPF installation instructions correct?
michigobbi Posted February 1, 2014 Author Posted February 1, 2014 yes, but something is wrong about male bode replacer.
gregathit Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 yes, but something is wrong about male bode replacer. Clearly, but I can't begin to diagnose anything from just that. For kicks and giggles, remove the male body esp from your load order (you may need to rebuild your bashed patch if you have one). Then archive invalidate via bsa redirection again and start a new game. See if you work then.
michigobbi Posted February 2, 2014 Author Posted February 2, 2014 is there any wrye bash instruction i could use? what should i do with it after installing?
gregathit Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 What??? You don't do anything except enable it after installing. If you seriously can't get things working then I highly recommend you start over from scratch and follow the installation instructions I give in the LAPF line by line. That is the only method I can guarantee that works as I wrote those instructions as I did a from scratch installation myself.
michigobbi Posted February 2, 2014 Author Posted February 2, 2014 close the topic please, i've changed _male skeletons again, everything's good now, thanks all for the help
doomcat9 Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 i know your problem and i know whats causing it. I've had that problem repeatedly before. the problem really is with your skeleton file. you see LAPF has a specific skeleton for bodies to work with it. When you install other body replacers they'll replace that skeleton. the only way i've fixed it is this: 1) Install LAPF and other stuff you want 2) Install the body replacer you want. 3) install LAPF again to overwrite the skeleton installed by the body replacer. (trust me on this, i dont know why but LAPF hates any other skeleton file it only like that one it comes with. The skeleton files that are in body replacers seem to cause this problem) you'll see the problem goes away P.S. dont just replace the skeleton files. Reinstall LAPF itself. This is important. LAPF seems to like to stay intact, it doesn't like having any of its files replaced, it behaves erratically when something gets changed this is why i usually make it a point to install it again any and every time i install a new mod that may make significant changes to a character just to be sure that LAPF stays intact. Regarding boobs stretching out, you maybe missing meshes for some body types. This mod: Tamago Setbody Tspec edition. http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/39966/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Foblivion%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D39966%26preview%3D&pUp=1 and this http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/73-tamago-setbody-revised/ have many female body meshes included. it might help you to install those. the mods allows you to change your characters body type on the go and give you a ton of choice and the pro to this is that they have a huge variety of body type meshes. so what ever female body mesh you're missing that's causing your uber droopy boobs problem (stretchy boobs ) maybe in it. if not least you can change the body type to another
michigobbi Posted February 2, 2014 Author Posted February 2, 2014 yes, thanks, that was exactly my problem
doomcat9 Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 hey michi i added more info to your problem cuz i think it maybe a 2 part problem
rynak777 Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Why do any body replacers nowadays even still use anything but the "Universal Skeletton" which by now almost any plugin that does stuff with skelettons expects? The only other contender i know, is from the same creator (Universal Skeleton, Total Controllable variant), and that one afaik is actually compatible with LAPF as well.... it's just that it will cause headtracking (of characters, not players : ) to make eyes of people roll funny, but again that's not an issue for LAPF (some might even during sexacts consider it not a bug but a feature - ahegao for free! rofl). I can understand people creating new skelettons for creatures and stuff - but why would any body replacer nowadays use some weird custom skeleton for "humans"?
NinjaCarrot Posted June 6, 2014 Posted June 6, 2014 I had the same problem. If you have Steam version, you need to reset BSA timestamps with OBMM when doing archive invalidation.
Mizu78 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 I seem to have encountered this myself. Latest installs are Reapers_Waterfront, Reapers The Necromancer Tower and Reapers A Friendly Backup Quest. Only shows during sex and its just the male penis that is affected. One in ten animations work right, the rest all go from the crotch off into the distance. Also one girl has started walking around with the stocks from one of the animations stuck to the back of her head.
gregathit Posted July 11, 2014 Posted July 11, 2014 For some fucked up reason many modders throw in a customized (or even a vanilla) skeleton and that fucks the whole program up. You need to get into the habit of checking EVERYTHING you install to make sure there are no skeletons inside. Re-installing the skeleton from the LAPF should fix your issue.
Mizu78 Posted July 11, 2014 Posted July 11, 2014 I did. I followed every tip that has been listed before my post to fix the issue. And none of them worked. I even tried reinstalling Roberts, HGEC with BBB and Daedra Sutra as well as some other lovers mods to see if it would fix the issue before doing a complete reinstall.
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