doop_lvl Posted June 1 Author Posted June 1 8 hours ago, camistrie said: Really want to give this mod a try (instead of Equal Milking), hoping for some features in order to make the jump: - milk pipes, milking machines and milk fluid storage - integration with onaholes extension for milking TYVM! this mod already integrates with onahole mod. i just havent included the pipes and machines because i dont have the sprites for it yet
doop_lvl Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 update - Added option to disable the mechanic of removal of ideo from pawns who have reached maximum cattle conditioning. - Added letter on pawns reaching maximum cattle conditioning. - Lactation fertility penalty that are being partially nullified by cattle conditioining will now show the correct number on the pawn's fertility stat. Fertility penalty that has been completely nullified will not show at all. - Fixed human produce consumption social thoughts not firing correctly.
BulBulOgly Posted June 21 Posted June 21 On 5/26/2026 at 4:35 PM, doop_lvl said: what do you mean by transition exactly? I'm using a translator. it develops to the stage (needy) and continues to develop. and the breast reaches a large size and does not grow further (if this information is important). milklily once every 4 days, milking constantly. what should I check or change? It was fine in April, but I updated your mod in May. I don't have the old version to double-check. Thanks for the mod!
Alpenglow Posted June 21 Posted June 21 Is it currently mod option to temporarily increase breast size during pregnancy and breastfeeding?
doop_lvl Posted June 21 Author Posted June 21 18 hours ago, BulBulOgly said: I'm using a translator. it develops to the stage (needy) and continues to develop. and the breast reaches a large size and does not grow further (if this information is important). milklily once every 4 days, milking constantly. what should I check or change? It was fine in April, but I updated your mod in May. I don't have the old version to double-check. Thanks for the mod! you need the drug called lacton to progress further. administer the drug once a day 1
doop_lvl Posted June 21 Author Posted June 21 6 hours ago, Alpenglow said: Is it currently mod option to temporarily increase breast size during pregnancy and breastfeeding? no. all breast size changes are permanent
BulBulOgly Posted June 22 Posted June 22 (edited) On 6/21/2026 at 9:56 PM, doop_lvl said: you need the drug called lacton to progress further. administer the drug once a day Thank you for your reply! is it possible to make a drug to create dependence on breastfeeding? If you can, of course. I can't assign a role - human cattle specialist. lactating - at limit. Edited June 22 by BulBulOgly
doop_lvl Posted June 23 Author Posted June 23 22 hours ago, BulBulOgly said: Thank you for your reply! is it possible to make a drug to create dependence on breastfeeding? If you can, of course. you dont need a drug to give people dependence on breastfeeding. just make them breastfeed often and the percentage on the lactation tab will go to 100% and they will have "unweaned" hediff, which means they have breastfeeding dependence  22 hours ago, BulBulOgly said: If you can, of course. I can't assign a role - human cattle specialist. lactating - at limit. the requirements for human cattle specialist is that they are not allowed to have maximum cattle conditioning. you need to decrease their cattle conditioning first and convert them back to their ideology (maximum cattle conditioning also removes ideology unless you disable it in the settings). after that, you can give them the human cattle specialist role  there are three ways to decrease the cattle conditioning: - surgery that needs some glitterworld medicines - using a biosculpter pod that needs only one glitterworld medicine - an ideology ritual, but this requires a human cattle specialist in the first place, so you can only do this if you already have one 1
BulBulOgly Posted June 24 Posted June 24 On 6/23/2026 at 4:49 PM, doop_lvl said: you dont need a drug to give people dependence on breastfeeding. just make them breastfeed often and the percentage on the lactation tab will go to 100% and they will have "unweaned" hediff, which means they have breastfeeding dependence  the requirements for human cattle specialist is that they are not allowed to have maximum cattle conditioning. you need to decrease their cattle conditioning first and convert them back to their ideology (maximum cattle conditioning also removes ideology unless you disable it in the settings). after that, you can give them the human cattle specialist role  there are three ways to decrease the cattle conditioning: - surgery that needs some glitterworld medicines - using a biosculpter pod that needs only one glitterworld medicine - an ideology ritual, but this requires a human cattle specialist in the first place, so you can only do this if you already have one manual breastfeeding requires control. I thought I'd just take a pill to get addicted right away. or I didn't figure out the settings. I understood about the ideology. when the status is "cattle minded", if a pawn is raped, then she has negative thoughts. It's weird, she's a cow. Can you make yogurt or smoothies or warm milk from breast milk for mood or bonuses? Thank you for putting up with my stupid questions!
doop_lvl Posted June 26 Author Posted June 26 On 6/25/2026 at 6:25 AM, BulBulOgly said: manual breastfeeding requires control on the lactation tab, you can find the column that says "Configure if children and adults are allowed to voluntarily breastfeed from lactating pawns" when you hover over the top icon. set the value to "breastfeed only diet" to make that pawn never look for normal food anymore and automatically breastfeed instead  On 6/25/2026 at 6:25 AM, BulBulOgly said: when the status is "cattle minded", if a pawn is raped, then she has negative thoughts its only vanilla thoughts that gets negated for now. it would be difficult to cover every single thought, so i wanted to add a setting that will let you set the thoughts to negate, but i havent made it yet  On 6/25/2026 at 6:25 AM, BulBulOgly said: Can you make yogurt or smoothies or warm milk from breast milk for mood or bonuses? having more crafts that specifically requires milk that has been milked from people is a nice idea. ive never thought about it before for some reason 1
BulBulOgly Posted June 26 Posted June 26 10 hours ago, doop_lvl said: on the lactation tab, you can find the column that says "Configure if children and adults are allowed to voluntarily breastfeed from lactating pawns" when you hover over the top icon. set the value to "breastfeed only diet" to make that pawn never look for normal food anymore and automatically breastfeed instead  its only vanilla thoughts that gets negated for now. it would be difficult to cover every single thought, so i wanted to add a setting that will let you set the thoughts to negate, but i havent made it yet  having more crafts that specifically requires milk that has been milked from people is a nice idea. ive never thought about it before for some reason I understood about the diet, I thought it was something else. It's not very important about thoughts, but I really want recipes. is there a dependence of the amount of milk on the size of the breast? if so, how can more be done? let the pawn not be able to walk and become dumb, but it is better to keep one as a milk factory than several with debuffs and a little milk.
doop_lvl Posted June 27 Author Posted June 27 4 hours ago, BulBulOgly said: become dumb if by dumb you mean the cattle conditioning, cattle conditioning itself doesnt increase the amount of milk produced. what increases the milk is the size of the breasts, the fluid multiplier on the breasts (theres a drug called galactagogue from the mod Cumpilation that does this), and the body size. if you want more milk, i suggest getting more human cattles or maybe make your human cattles body size bigger by other mods 1
BulBulOgly Posted June 27 Posted June 27 1 hour ago, doop_lvl said: if by dumb you mean the cattle conditioning, cattle conditioning itself doesnt increase the amount of milk produced. what increases the milk is the size of the breasts, the fluid multiplier on the breasts (theres a drug called galactagogue from the mod Cumpilation that does this), and the body size. if you want more milk, i suggest getting more human cattles or maybe make your human cattles body size bigger by other mods Thank you for your reply!
BulBulOgly Posted July 3 Posted July 3 On 6/27/2026 at 4:48 AM, doop_lvl said: if by dumb you mean the cattle conditioning, cattle conditioning itself doesnt increase the amount of milk produced. what increases the milk is the size of the breasts, the fluid multiplier on the breasts (theres a drug called galactagogue from the mod Cumpilation that does this), and the body size. if you want more milk, i suggest getting more human cattles or maybe make your human cattles body size bigger by other mods they don't put the bell on themselves, but it wears out and they take it off. and you can skip the situation that they are without a bell. you can either make a bell without wear or have them put it on themselves, even with a debuff.
doop_lvl Posted July 3 Author Posted July 3 are you looking to prevent cattle conditioning from progressing using the cow bell?Â
BulBulOgly Posted July 4 Posted July 4 12 hours ago, doop_lvl said: are you looking to prevent cattle conditioning from progressing using the cow bell? maybe I just didn't understand how to use it correctly. I'll try to figure it out myself. Sorry for the stupid question!
Fox_737 Posted July 6 Posted July 6 I need help: when I install the mod, the hunger of my lactating pawns immediately drops to zero and won't go back up no matter how much I feed them—is this a bug?
doop_lvl Posted July 6 Author Posted July 6 6 hours ago, Fox_737 said: I need help: when I install the mod, the hunger of my lactating pawns immediately drops to zero and won't go back up no matter how much I feed them—is this a bug? that may happen if you load the mod mid save
Fox_737 Posted July 6 Posted July 6 1 hour ago, doop_lvl said: that may happen if you load the mod mid save Unfortunately, no: the mod was loaded from the very beginning. As soon as a pawn acquires the "lactation" status, their hunger rate drops to zero; however, if that status is removed using developer mode, the hunger rate returns to normal.
doop_lvl Posted July 7 Author Posted July 7 On 7/7/2026 at 12:45 AM, Fox_737 said: Unfortunately, no: the mod was loaded from the very beginning. As soon as a pawn acquires the "lactation" status, their hunger rate drops to zero; however, if that status is removed using developer mode, the hunger rate returns to normal. enable dev mode on your game and hover over the lactation hediff. you can see the hunger to milk conversion rate. relay to me what you see and i might have a better idea of whats happening
doop_lvl Posted Saturday at 01:19 PM Author Posted Saturday at 01:19 PM new update adds a mood based milk productivity mechanic: Cattle conditioning may now speed up how fast lactation fills up, scaling with mood above minor break threshold up to twice as fast at 100% mood. All the additional milk is provided without extra cost to the lactator's hunger. Inversely, mood below the minor break threshold slows lactation down which stops it completely at 0% mood. Again, the hunger cost is unchanged. You'll be converting food into less milk with the speed penalty. There's a 3% chance for cattle conditioning to acquire this mood mechanic upon milking a lactator with maxed out cattle conditioning while they are above minor break threshold. The chance is adjustable in settings. Reverting cattle conditioning will also revert the mood mechanic, unless you have made the mood mechanic permanent beforehand. The only way to acquire permanent mood mechanic for your cattle conditioning hediff is through a cattle placation ritual which is locked behind the human cattle rearing meme. Similar to cattle blessing, you will need a hormonized milk pool. The difference is that you don't need the human cattle specialist role. You can apply this ritual to any lactator who has maxed out cattle conditioning to gain the mood mechanic and also make it permanent. other changes in this update: Replaced old hormonized milk pool sprite with a new one made by Gerrymon. Added a small milk sore thought for lactators with full lactation and milk fullness of at least 10 milk's worth of nutrition in their lactation. Added negative thought for lactators that respects providing human milk whenever they haven't been milk for long (3 days). They will want to be milked regularly.
doop_lvl Posted Saturday at 03:25 PM Author Posted Saturday at 03:25 PM update - Added a new set of precepts centered around keeping slaves and prisoners as human cattles. - Nerfed cattle conditioning's mood mechanic. Highest productivity is now capped at x150% faster milking speed instead of x200%, with a much steeper curve instead of just linear. Lactators now need to be significantly above minor break threshold to have noticeable buff. On the plus side, the debuff from low mood is also capped at x50%, but its curve has also been changed to be nonlinear. The mood debuff now accumulate sooner at higher mood below the minor break threshold. - Added a function that multiplies hand milking speed that includes the milkee and milker as parameters.
Prawn15 Posted Saturday at 06:02 PM Posted Saturday at 06:02 PM (edited) Yeah I got the same issue with the hunger meter going down instantly. It happens everytime the Pawn gets milked, it just empties the Food meter. So they go eat, get milked, go eat, get milked. Constantly. EDIT: It is especially bad when using one of the Onahole mods furniture and turning on the milking. As that keeps the food meter at zero Edited Saturday at 06:05 PM by Prawn15
doop_lvl Posted Saturday at 07:18 PM Author Posted Saturday at 07:18 PM well, the milk fullness calculation looks right. make sure you did not install the mod mid save or worse installed it into a save that had Equal Milking before. and show me a hugslog so that i can debug your problem better
monzsss Posted Saturday at 07:35 PM Posted Saturday at 07:35 PM i notice that the breast cup sizes isn't tailored with breast size as it grows, or its just problem with SA0 ? or maybe my mods installation ?
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