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1 hour ago, fighter139 said:

So I was only getting some IVDT voices at the end, as well as some other strange SL event behavior, so I started looking more closely at the plugin load order that I had in MO2.

 

I noticed that the IVDT voice pack I'm using (Karryn) has its own IntelligentVoicedDirtyTalk.esp, which was overriding Hentairim P+'s .esp of the same name. I assumed that the P+ version is more recent and has more features, so I moved the Karryn mod in MO2's left pane above Hentairim P+ so that P+ overwrites with its own IntelligentVoicedDirtyTalk.esp.

 

If I'm messing this up or I'm missing something else, please advise.

 

Your voice pack should win the conflict.  The .esp is basically an inventory of the voice files for the mod.  The basic P+ esp will have generic sound files referenced, but your custom (Karryn) will reference all the specific custom sound files. 

Posted (edited)
22 hours ago, Bigglsby said:

 

Your voice pack should win the conflict.  The .esp is basically an inventory of the voice files for the mod.  The basic P+ esp will have generic sound files referenced, but your custom (Karryn) will reference all the specific custom sound files. 

OK thanks very much, that fixed my issue.

 

Edit: I looked through a bunch of DAV posts and I guess it has some compatibility issues with stuff like simple outfit system, etc.

 

I have another, general question about the armor swapping: would it be better to use Dynamic Armor Variants for armor swapping? DAV allows for swapping of ARMA records, so that, no matter how you modded the clothing into your game, ARMAs will swap out. For example, many [Caenarvon] mods uses this method, and the included .json files references the ARMAs.

 

In Hentairim P+, the armor swap .json is referencing ARMO records, so if I alter or mod the ARMOs (from Magecore to replace enchanted mage robes), I need to not only go into Hentairim's .json for armor swapping and add my own custom ARMO records, but also set up a separate set of lewd armors. Not saying I won't do it your way, I'm just wondering if it wouldn't save a ton of time on the user's end to use DAV in order to facilitate modding. Maybe this is a Sexlab P+ limitation, I don't know.

Edited by fighter139
Posted
On 8/22/2025 at 1:11 AM, somedudes5 said:

 

 

OMFG, there is a space between the | and the esp name. That Is what caused the issue.  It started somewhere in the cosplay gala items in the armorswap.json  and i carried it over.

 

Can I get a copy of your armorswapping.json with the gala items?

Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, CakeFace said:

 

Can I get a copy of your armorswapping.json with the gala items?

 

here it is, i alphabetized and rearranged by mod author so if you open it up it will be easier to see what is included by reading the ESP names. I added some other stuff too by Melodic and COCO. You should be able to just have it overwrite HP+, or you can go into the file, copy and paste it directly over the existing ArmorSwapping.json inside of the HP+ folder

ArmorSwapConfigs(Somedude).7z

Edited by somedudes5
Posted (edited)
On 8/27/2025 at 11:01 PM, fighter139 said:

OK thanks very much, that fixed my issue.

 

Edit: I looked through a bunch of DAV posts and I guess it has some compatibility issues with stuff like simple outfit system, etc.

 

I have another, general question about the armor swapping: would it be better to use Dynamic Armor Variants for armor swapping? DAV allows for swapping of ARMA records, so that, no matter how you modded the clothing into your game, ARMAs will swap out. For example, many [Caenarvon] mods uses this method, and the included .json files references the ARMAs.

 

In Hentairim P+, the armor swap .json is referencing ARMO records, so if I alter or mod the ARMOs (from Magecore to replace enchanted mage robes), I need to not only go into Hentairim's .json for armor swapping and add my own custom ARMO records, but also set up a separate set of lewd armors. Not saying I won't do it your way, I'm just wondering if it wouldn't save a ton of time on the user's end to use DAV in order to facilitate modding. Maybe this is a Sexlab P+ limitation, I don't know.

 

i played around with DAV , but i keep getting problems with it parsing my json file i gave up. also it is just swapping the armor model file , but not the actual armor which has certain keywords that some mods require that is immediately incompatible if schlong is involved.

 

what we want is something very like Skyrim Outfit Equipment System NG. so im thinking of how to use this or something similar without too many steps

Edited by ShimizuModding
Posted (edited)
On 8/25/2025 at 11:54 PM, ShimizuModding said:

 

 

theres on option in Hentairim Director that auto reverts to default at the end of the stage. try disabling it. i dont think SL p+ reverts the gender

 

 

Thanks for the feedback.  SOMETHING is definitely reverting the gender, I can see it myself in real time--I change them to Male, within a few seconds they change back to Futa.  For giggles, I switched from SOS to TNG this morning, and tried this mod which appears to be a more up-to-date version of what is on LL theoretically: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/127183

 

But nothing really changed.  If you can either solve my issue with genders not working the way I want (Futas should be Male aggressors/dominates, but Female victims/subs--get rid of Futa gender all together) or add this as a feature / separate mod that works, I'll definitely throw some cash your way.

 

Do you have any thoughts on why HentairimDirector doesn't seem to work for me?  The only thing overwriting it is IVDT.  Hentairim seems to disable SexLab controls, so it is apparently overwriting SexLab successfully...   I did  not  change any of the hotkeys like SpaceBar or H.

 

 

Screenshot Load Order.png

 

Edited by firedanzigdog67
Posted (edited)
41 minutes ago, firedanzigdog67 said:

 

 

Thanks for the feedback.  SOMETHING is definitely reverting the gender, I can see it myself in real time--I change them to Male, within a few seconds they change back to Futa.  For giggles, I switched from SOS to TNG this morning, and tried this mod which appears to be a more up-to-date version of what is on LL theoretically: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/127183

 

But nothing really changed.  If you can either solve my issue with genders not working the way I want (Futas should be Male aggressors/dominates, but Female victims/subs--get rid of Futa gender all together) or add this as a feature / separate mod that works, I'll definitely throw some cash your way.

 

Do you have any thoughts on why HentairimDirector doesn't seem to work for me?  The only thing overwriting it is IVDT.  Hentairim seems to disable SexLab controls, so it is apparently overwriting SexLab successfully...   I did  not  change any of the hotkeys like SpaceBar or H.

 

 

Screenshot Load Order.png

 

 

The futaxfuta , femalexfemale etc use other positions in hentairim is basically used by Hentairim Combat Rape to change the aggressor/victim's sexlab gender before the sexlab is triggered by combat rape. if you have another mod that forcibly change it back the problem will still persist

 

what is the intelligent voiced dirty talk SE V ? is it voice pack or is it the old mod. can you double click on the Hentairim P and share a screenshot .

 

does your gender get reverted after Sex Scene, or right after you tried to change the gender in sexlab?

 

if the gender gets changed back almost immediately, use notepad++ find in files function and search the following keyword in all the .psc files in your mod sub folder  for the following keyword :

RegisterForModEvent("SexLabActorGenderChange"

to find the culprit mod. almost all the sexlab mods have are loose files with source files so i believe it should have something.

Make sure Hentairim Director Config "resetsexassignment":1,  is set to 0

Edited by ShimizuModding
Posted (edited)

I read the user guide but couldn't find any information about the tags "ENI" and "ENO." I understand that these tags are related to “ENDING,” but what do the letters “I” and “O” stand for?

 

Edited: Oh, I see. They stand for Inside and Outside.

Edited by CHoowe
Posted (edited)

Thanks for another great work on P+.

I checked the PDF but there seem to be little contect about enjoyment.

I installed P+ version and tested some sex scenes. The enjoyment increases with time, and decreases lightly occasionally. What can I do to take control of the enjoymet bar, for example, preventing orgasm? Should it work with SLSO_voices_widget from https://discord.com/channels/906462751101177886/1169635757535805440/1235941091816243292 ?

 

Also, your load order lies like that. But my MO2 doesn't allow me to drag iii) IntelligentVoicedDirtyTalk.esp under the other 5 esp.

i) Hentairim Director.esp

ii) HentairimExpressions.esp

iii) IntelligentVoicedDirtyTalk.esp

iv) HentairimSFX.esp

v) HentairimResistance.esp

vi) HentairimMaleVoice.esp

Edited by zh1023700559
Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, ShimizuModding said:

 

The futaxfuta , femalexfemale etc [...]

Make sure Hentairim Director Config "resetsexassignment":1,  is set to 0

 

(On a separate note, I just searched for 10 minutes on how to spoiler images to stop taking up so much thread space.  If there is a way I'm ignorant of, feel free to correct me.)

 

Hentairim Director Config "resetsexassignment" to 0 is the one thing I haven't tried yet, but...  I guess it would be nice to get Hentairim Director working in-game first before I tinker/experiment too much.  😅

 

Search result attached.  The only ones showing up with SexLabActorGenderChange seem to be SexlabFrameworkAE & SexlabFramework PPlus.

 

Hentairim P screenshot attached.

 

The IVDT mod is this, latest version.  Maybe I misunderstood.  I thought your "Hentairim IVDT Resources" suggested its use.

 

 

 

 

Screenshot Hentairim P.png

Screenshot Search Result.png

Edited by firedanzigdog67
Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, firedanzigdog67 said:

 

(On a separate note, I just searched for 10 minutes on how to spoiler images to stop taking up so much thread space.  If there is a way I'm ignorant of, feel free to correct me.)

 

Hentairim Director Config "resetsexassignment" to 0 is the one thing I haven't tried yet, but...  I guess it would be nice to get Hentairim Director working in-game first before I tinker/experiment too much.  😅

 

Search result attached.  The only ones showing up with SexLabActorGenderChange seem to be SexlabFrameworkAE & SexlabFramework PPlus.

 

Hentairim P screenshot attached.

 

The IVDT mod is this, latest version.  Maybe I misunderstood.  I thought your "Hentairim IVDT Resources" suggested its use.

 

 

 

 

Screenshot Hentairim P.png

Screenshot Search Result.png

 

 

that is old mod. you only need to get the voice pack from the hentairim Resource. everything else there is old stuff in archive and should not be installed with hentairim. it will cause it not to work.

 

as for the gender issue, lets go for a different approach. in sexlab.ini in SLPP folder

 

 

[Filter]
iScoreAcceptThreshold = 1
iWeightSexStrict = 100
iWeightSexLight = 50
iWeightSexMismatch = -15
iWeightVampire = 10
iWeightSubmissive = 20
iWeightUnconscious = 10

 

try putting

 

iScoreAcceptThreshold = 1
iWeightSexStrict = 10
iWeightSexLight = 10
iWeightSexMismatch = 10
iWeightVampire = 10
iWeightSubmissive = 10
iWeightUnconscious = 10

 

im not overly familliar with this so might need some testing

first it will check Strict. it is a perfect match, so Male => Male, Female => Female or Futa => Futa
then it will check LightMatch .The Light match are weak matches, which is Female => Male and Futa => Any
then it will check for Mismatch which gender not matching the position gender. since mismatch is at negative at default, the Scene will not match the positions (aka Futa aggressor as Male on Futa Female), and will appear as strict gender control for unsuspecting users


And you need at least ScoreThresshold points to allow a match
If the match doesnt meet the threshold, it returns as invalid and the Scene cannot be used in that position

 

i

 

Edited by ShimizuModding
Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, zh1023700559 said:

Thanks for another great work on P+.

I checked the PDF but there seem to be little contect about enjoyment.

I installed P+ version and tested some sex scenes. The enjoyment increases with time, and decreases lightly occasionally. What can I do to take control of the enjoymet bar, for example, preventing orgasm? Should it work with SLSO_voices_widget from https://discord.com/channels/906462751101177886/1169635757535805440/1235941091816243292 ?

 

Also, your load order lies like that. But my MO2 doesn't allow me to drag iii) IntelligentVoicedDirtyTalk.esp under the other 5 esp.

i) Hentairim Director.esp

ii) HentairimExpressions.esp

iii) IntelligentVoicedDirtyTalk.esp

iv) HentairimSFX.esp

v) HentairimResistance.esp

vi) HentairimMaleVoice.esp

 

in this version, Hentairim is not controlling the Enjoyment calculations, and is only using SLPP Enjoyment Values. the Authors are expanding the enjoyment configurable options so allow more control over the gain rate, and adding a game that allows edging or prevent orgasm or something. you can already control some of the enjoyment gains by editing sexlab.ini

 

 

The Link you shared is old patch for legacy SL Hentairim to use in SLPP, this should not be used with this version

Edited by ShimizuModding
Posted

Thanks!  This did not fully resolve my issues, but it was a great start.  Director works now that I completely got rid of IVDT and I am OCCASIONALLY (65%?) getting Male on Female animations instead of the very limited-quantity Futa on Female animations.  I'll try tinkering more with the ini settings to see if I can improve it further.  Only sad part is that this doesn't seem to cover NPC or creature animations very well.  Still seems like all aroused creatures just get confused when they approach a futa-female and it basically says there are no animations that work. 

Posted

I got the file which removed SLPP's top hud, but is it possible to also remove the bottom hud stuff too? You can hide SLPP's hud by toggling that option in the hud itself, but the problem is that it's not permanent. Maybe instead of replacing the swf file there could be a way to keep the hud hidden at all times after startup?

Posted (edited)
21 hours ago, firedanzigdog67 said:

Thanks!  This did not fully resolve my issues, but it was a great start.  Director works now that I completely got rid of IVDT and I am OCCASIONALLY (65%?) getting Male on Female animations instead of the very limited-quantity Futa on Female animations.  I'll try tinkering more with the ini settings to see if I can improve it further.  Only sad part is that this doesn't seem to cover NPC or creature animations very well.  Still seems like all aroused creatures just get confused when they approach a futa-female and it basically says there are no animations that work. 

you would have to search in SLPP discord for the relevant patches for mods like aroused creatures. some mods dont really interact well with SLPP

 

 

at this point your animations for futa male to futa female are unlocked. now its up to your mod which triggers the sex animation to filter out the futa tags animations when calling sex scene

Edited by ShimizuModding
Posted
3 hours ago, 40Karats said:

I got the file which removed SLPP's top hud, but is it possible to also remove the bottom hud stuff too? You can hide SLPP's hud by toggling that option in the hud itself, but the problem is that it's not permanent. Maybe instead of replacing the swf file there could be a way to keep the hud hidden at all times after startup?

 

the option to hide it all times has to be provided by SLPP team since its related to their dll. the only thing i can do is just removing elements from the swf file

Posted

First of all - love this mod. I especially like the menu system to find other animations (just have to hold down 'h' to get it to come up). I also really like that you can disable scene advancement if you need to mess around with something.

 

Just a note that I'd like to place here, because there is no "remove heel effect," as far as I can tell, LShift + Num5 is the combo to lower the PC's height manually.

Posted
6 hours ago, fighter139 said:

First of all - love this mod. I especially like the menu system to find other animations (just have to hold down 'h' to get it to come up). I also really like that you can disable scene advancement if you need to mess around with something.

 

Just a note that I'd like to place here, because there is no "remove heel effect," as far as I can tell, LShift + Num5 is the combo to lower the PC's height manually.

you can use https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/155551

Posted

In the mcm of SLPP, there is a choice about how to use the furniture.

If Ask(always) is actived, there will be a window asking you whether or not use furniture. However, this window will be hiden by the patch hiding top HUD of SLPP, so the game will be frozen.

 

image.png.6a9f40b140a3424b1b1ed71d93ea4e8a.png

Posted
On 9/5/2025 at 8:03 PM, moolag said:

Is the new SLATE file necessary? Do I need to use SLATE again?

not unless you are planning on creating your own animations.

absolutely DO NOT INSTALL SLAL OR SLATE on sexlab p+

SLAL is built in already, slate might come be implemented in the future

Posted (edited)

I'll be honest I dont really like when people use kemono(patreon/substar skimmer) to steal others hard work and if you do you shouldnt advertise it in anyway...as an artist who has their entire art catalogue stolen by this site its really not cool you put it in the guide under the futa addon. Its a slap in the face to artists/modders/creators trying to earn a living.

 

I ask only as a request to remove it, obviously i can't enforce anything.

Edited by tamai
Posted
On 9/5/2025 at 2:48 AM, zh1023700559 said:

In the mcm of SLPP, there is a choice about how to use the furniture.

If Ask(always) is actived, there will be a window asking you whether or not use furniture. However, this window will be hiden by the patch hiding top HUD of SLPP, so the game will be frozen.

 

image.png.6a9f40b140a3424b1b1ed71d93ea4e8a.png

 

can you still open console if it is frozen

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, tamai said:

I'll be honest I dont really like when people use kemono(patreon/substar skimmer) to steal others hard work and if you do you shouldnt advertise it in anyway...as an artist who has their entire art catalogue stolen by this site its really not cool you put it in the guide under the futa addon. Its a slap in the face to artists/modders/creators trying to earn a living.

 

I ask only as a request to remove it, obviously i can't enforce anything.

fair enough

Edited by ShimizuModding

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