Clothing modification problems (Missing bodies)

[Combinemaster]

hi!

recently I wanted to modify a clothing piece (add stuff to it/remove some/whatever) for personal use.

What I do is that I go into 3DS max, and I find, import (​) and edit the .NIF file that is provided for the clothing piece, I edit it too what I want too it, and then export it as the same nif file and simply over-write (of course I have backups lying around in case of these types of errors)

but for some reason, the body parts are missing, COMPLETELY, but the clothing is there, I tried installing the appropriate body mod for it too (being DMRA) but to no go, still missing body pieces

 

I am sure the problem is with the mesh itself rather then my mod list but here is my mod list anyway:

Oblivion.esm

CM Partners.esm

IceElfRace.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Knights.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

Personality Idles - Modified version.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

EY_AoD.esp

R18PN - Lingeries.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

Millstone_Farm.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

Kaleencolors.esp

CM Partners.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

YakumoIsle.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

CMpartnerTifa.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

DMRASexyGhostArmor.esp

DMRA BBB R18PN Lingerie.esp

MechaFox.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

BasicInstinct.esp

bondage_sex.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

CTAddPose_v_1.esp

oblivion_anim.esp

Eroblivion.esp

CTAddPose_ other.esp

CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp

Hentai_CerenityArmor.esp

Slof's Sexy Anims.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Tifa.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

Synx.esp

Gizmodian - Eclipse.esp

HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp

Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp

Hentai_SnowFlower.esp

homura outfit HGEC.esp

Infinite Charge.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

Lady Anna.esp

aion_tegrak.esp

yangyang_Oneytia.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

k1_CW7heaven.esp

GGBDDCW.esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

Iron Maiden Set.esp

CM Partner Sandra.esp

Iron Maiden - Jo's Rest.esp

Private Army Beta.esp

SM_OOO.esp

SM_DLCSpellTome.esp

SM_MMM.esp

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

LadyFantasyBBBHVer.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Imperial Legion.esp

Lady Flirt.esp

Silorn Manor.esp

DMRA Stock Robe Skimpy Replacer.esp

DMRA  Skimpy Armor Expanded.esp

DMRA Stock Clothing Skimpy.esp

DAFeria.esp

CM Partner Destara.esp

Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp

xeoex.esp

 

Attached contains my in-game picture, before and after
as well as my import and export settings

before:


after:

[gregathit]

post the nif file.  A quick look at that can help us tell you what is wrong.

[myuhinny]

Another nice way to do many of those things is to use nifskope. Save a copy of your installed Skeleton.nif somewhere and use this as the base for every mash-up the skeleton is located in the mesh folder under _male. This file has all the needed bones/nodes. Open an outfit in a new window, right-click on a part you want to use and select 'Copy Branch'. In the skeleton file right-click on the 'Scene Root' at the top of the block list to the left and select 'Paste Branch' then save as. Repeat this for all the needed parts until you have a complete outfit and save it under a new name. Then you can put it into your custom outfit esp in the CS, according to the item slots it will occupy or use it to replace the file that you modified.

 

An additional step before saving is using the spell 'Spells > Batch > Update All Tangent Spaces'. Never hurts even if nothing changes.

[gregathit]

 

Another nice way to do many of those things is to use nifskope. Save a copy of your installed Skeleton.nif somewhere and use this as the base for every mash-up the skeleton is located in the mesh folder under _male. This file has all the needed bones/nodes. Open an outfit in a new window, right-click on a part you want to use and select 'Copy Branch'. In the skeleton file right-click on the 'Scene Root' at the top of the block list to the left and select 'Paste Branch' then save as. Repeat this for all the needed parts until you have a complete outfit and save it under a new name. Then you can put it into your custom outfit esp in the CS, according to the item slots it will occupy or use it to replace the file that you modified.

 

An additional step before saving is using the spell 'Spells > Batch > Update All Tangent Spaces'. Never hurts even if nothing changes.

 

 

Not really recommended.  You are just increasing the size of your mesh as it now will have an actual skeleton on top of the game skeleton.  There is a reason blender doesn't export the actual skeleton out and that is performance.

 

Doing this on multiple outfits will cause a pretty drastic slowdown on your game.

[Combinemaster]

post the nif file.  A quick look at that can help us tell you what is wrong.

oh, my apologies I knew I forgot something...

 

Attached is the .nif file before and after modification

 

for (hopefully) easier comparison. 

 

EDIT: I forgot to mention that this mesh is suppose to be a replacement for the dancer dress from SI.

DCMDRoyal_after.nif

DCMDRoyal_before.nif

[fejeena]

Have not tested it in game  but saw that some texture pathes are wrong

Characters\argonian\female\footfemale.dds should be textures\Characters\argonian\female\footfemale.dds

Armor\SpeedBuster\suicup\bottom01_05.dds should be  textures\Armor\SpeedBuster\suicup\bottom01_05.dds

 

Edit: I tested it in game with changed texture path, all fine.

 

 

[Combinemaster]

Have not tested it in game  but saw that some texture pathes are wrong

Characters\argonian\female\footfemale.dds should be textures\Characters\argonian\female\footfemale.dds

Armor\SpeedBuster\suicup\bottom01_05.dds should be  textures\Armor\SpeedBuster\suicup\bottom01_05.dds

 

Edit: I tested it in game with changed texture path, all fine.

Bit of a dumb question, but how do I edit the texture path?

 

Because in 3DS max I go to the bitmap/photometric path editor and everything seems to be fine in terms of textures, when I go to to the bitmap path editor it displays these things for the paths you mentioned above:

 

C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\Textures\Armor\SpeedBuster\suicup\bottom01_05.dds

C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\Textures\Characters\argonian\female\footfemale.dds

[fejeena]

Just change the 3 wrong lines in NifSkope. Double click and add Textures\

 

Never add  a path like C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\Textures\Characters\argonian\female\footfemale.dds

or all People who have not installed Oblivion in C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks can not use the mesh.

My Oblivion is in E:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion

So always start with Textures\.....

 

here the mesh with correct texture path

DCMDRoyal_after.nif

[Combinemaster]

Just change the 3 wrong lines in NifSkope. Double click and add Textures\

NifSkope3.jpg

 

Never add  a path like C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\Textures\Characters\argonian\female\footfemale.dds

or all People who have not installed Oblivion in C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks can not use the mesh.

My Oblivion is in E:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion

So always start with Textures\.....

 

here the mesh with correct texture path

DCMDRoyal_after.nif

Awesome! it worked!

 

Thank you so much for your help, I don't know how I managed to miss that

[gregathit]

Honestly you don't want to pick a race specific body texture.  If you do then ONLY that race can wear the outfit.  What you "should" be doing is picking the imperial female body texture as that will allow ANY race to use the outfit and will properly display the correct race for all.