training AI

[Tlam99]

I make a new topic for reasons.

 

If you are convinced, a question is from an AI, do NOT point others, which responded, that this could be an AI.

(except you want to be a trainer)

Self explaining why not.

[Demonwise]

1 hour ago, Tlam99 said:

I make a new topic for reasons.

 

If you are convinced, a question is from an AI, do NOT point others, which responded, that this could be an AI.

(except you want to be a trainer)

Self explaining why not.

 

Are you trying to say that you created this thread purely for the sake of training one or more ai models?

[Miauzi]

Vor 10 Minuten sagte dämon.:

 

Versuchen Sie zu sagen, dass Sie diesen Thread nur für das Training eines oder mehrere KI -Modelle erstellt haben?

 

Maybe it's about a (possible) discussion about what the forum users think about the fact that their efforts (such as finding solutions to questions asked) are being misused for free training of AI software... in other words, the active forum user is the "idiot" in the IT companies' profit maximization!

 

The consequence of this is probably that more and more users will behave passively here... which will ultimately lead to the (long-term) death of an Internet community.

[Demonwise]

11 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

 

Maybe it's about a (possible) discussion about what the forum users think about the fact that their efforts (such as finding solutions to questions asked) are being misused for free training of AI software... in other words, the active forum user is the "idiot" in the IT companies' profit maximization!

 

The consequence of this is probably that more and more users will behave passively here... which will ultimately lead to the (long-term) death of an Internet community.

 

 

[Ashal]

The AI bot posts are just junk spam. After a few days, if the post is still up and they aren't banned, the bot comes back and edits in a spam link to the original text or replies with one in the post now that the thread has some engagement to look more legitimate. 

 

Just report them if you see or suspect them, and the bot will be banned asap after we verify.

 

Fortunately, they are usually pretty easy to spot once you seen a few of them because they almost always post around the same time of night (around now), on a fresh account made seconds before the thread is posted. And they always ask generic questions to bait engagement that comes off as very "Hello, fellow humans. I, too, play Skyrim". 

 

But again, just report them for a moderator to investigate. Please don't go on a witch hunt pointing fingers at what might end up being a legit new user and scaring them off.

[belegost]

30 minutes ago, Ashal said:

they almost always post around the same time of night (around now)

 

But... it's the middle of the day. Sunrise was 7 hours ago.

[Ashal]

Because I'm bored and want to show an example of what an AI post looks like. I'm going to unhide and lock an obvious AI bot post. So, look at this recent post for an example:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/246639-if-you-actually-lived-in-skyrim/ I've hidden all the replies to this post as well it's just the relevant original post by the bot.

• If you look at the user and the time the thread was posted, the thread was posted at the exact same hour the account was made. This is less obvious as time goes on since it no longer says "X hours ago," but when they are new, the time posted, and when the account was created almost always match.
• Their username always tends to be word+number.
• They seemingly always ask a random general question you wouldn't usually ask on a site like loverslab, but it is the sort of question that might bait engagement. 
• The real killer is this... if you google the first sentence of the example post above: "You go to bed like any other night, but when you wake up, you find yourself in the world of Skyrim" you'll see this is just a copy paste of a reddit post that was made a few hours beforehand (https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/1ix3hon/if_you_actually_lived_in_skyrim/)
• With it being copied from a recent reddit post, it's maybe honestly unfair to call them AI posts and more like copycat bot posts... I'd accuse the reddit post of also being booted, but OP at least seems to be replying in the comments.
• This kind of bot posts happens maybe once a week. And if left unchecked usually edit or quote their original post with a spam/ad link.

I'm sort of in a weird spot where I feel like I should "like" that these posts are happening because they bait engagement so the community seems more active, but to be honest, the dead internet theory terrifies me, and shit like this kinda makes me afraid of how true it might be, and I rather not feed into it and focus the community on real interactions rather than fake bait like this. 

 

But to reiterate my previous post here. DO NOT accuse random posters of being AI. Send a moderator report if you are suspicious, and let us decide. Accusing a real person of being a bot and driving them away from the site is the worst scenario.

 

I'm kind of hesitant to have posted this, to be honest, because I fear the person making these bot posts might see it and know now what to change up with their tactics to be less noticeable. But I also feel it necessary to educate people on how to recognize this shit.

[Tlam99]

8 minutes ago, Ashal said:

hidden all

call me whatever you want, but knew that this can only be an AI. But I restricted myself as mention in my post, don't comment.

[belegost]

On 2/25/2025 at 10:47 AM, Ashal said:

the dead internet theory terrifies me

Butlerian Jihad, here we come.

[Count Chocula]

On 2/12/2025 at 3:11 AM, Ashal said:

The AI bot posts [...] always ask generic questions to bait engagement that comes off as very "Hello, fellow humans. I, too, play Skyrim".

I suspect AI is not very adept at using colloquialisms. But I'm no expert.

[belegost]

I usually report 1-2 per week in Skyrim section alone. The pattern is the same, a very general, often naive question, that really feels off on an ADULT modding website. A real person who comes here would not have asked a question or made a statement like that,  especially an a new thread and as their first post. This is a very niche, very specific and very themed community. Stuff like that stands out and after you've seen a bunch, you get the feel for it.

 

Before I report, I do check the profile for joining date, last vist date and the number of posts. If it matches the pattern, it's 99% a bot. Even if it had adapted and changed pattern, you can still recognize it. Can't realy explain this, but you get this sort of gut feeling for it after a while.

Edited March 31, 2025 by belegost

[Count Chocula]

I know someone who has started diddling around with ChatGPT and when they tell me how the AI replied to comments, the AI comes across as obsequious, in addition to Ashal's mention of saying things characterized as "Hello, fellow humans, I too play Skyrim."