Sanguine Debauchery enhanced: SD+ (January 2022)

[Wil]

Love the mod and I am extremely excited reading what's planned. Though, I have a few problems after updating. Are you supposed to start the enslavement with -10 on both trust and disposition?  Also my character is being constantly raped.

[mrtauntaun]

Love the mod and I am extremely excited reading what's planned. Though, I have a few problems after updating. Are you supposed to start the enslavement with -10 on both trust and disposition?  Also my character is being constantly raped.

 

I have recently had this too, not sure if a bug or not.  Her master is quite insatiable. 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Love the mod and I am extremely excited reading what's planned. Though, I have a few problems after updating. Are you supposed to start the enslavement with -10 on both trust and disposition?  Also my character is being constantly raped.

 

I have recently had this too, not sure if a bug or not.  Her master is quite insatiable. 

 

 

It is normal to start trust and disposition very low.

 

I am still working on balance for the constant rapes.

 

When you are just starting, there is more emphasis on rapes and punishment to break you in. 

As a more established slave, you will be given more room to do things for your master other than entertainment.

[Vithiss]

hello.

 

as long as i played that mod, it's the first time i see the statue "sanguine on a thrones with 3 slaves" and a bed in front, under honningbrew mead (i'm not sure of the name i can't remember). is there always be here? has it a specific purpose or it's just a way to go to dreamworld quickly?

 

and now i see a "dremora" (not sure it's the same word in english, whatever) who say alltime "an enemy is here!" or something like that and when i try to speak to him... the power of curiosity.. he only defeat me and rape. 

Is there a planned interaction in future with him?

 

The shrine was added in version 2 (I think) and is, at present, mostly a way of going to the Dreamworld with a 100% chance (after your first visit). There may be more to come in future versions, but for now, it is kind of a more "powerfully embued" version of the basement of the Bunkhouse (where, I think, the chances are 1:3 of going to dreamworld when you sleep - which speaks volumes from a rp perspective ).

 

Do you mean the dremora in Dreamworld? If so, he and a fire autronach were added a while back. They part of the on-going development of the dreamworld into an ever-more interesting rp experience (along with more dialogs with Sanguine, new reactions and scenes, etc).

 

Hope that helps.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

hello.

 

as long as i played that mod, it's the first time i see the statue "sanguine on a thrones with 3 slaves" and a bed in front, under honningbrew mead (i'm not sure of the name i can't remember). is there always be here? has it a specific purpose or it's just a way to go to dreamworld quickly?

 

and now i see a "dremora" (not sure it's the same word in english, whatever) who say alltime "an enemy is here!" or something like that and when i try to speak to him... the power of curiosity.. he only defeat me and rape. 

Is there a planned interaction in future with him?

 

The shrine was added in version 2 (I think) and is, at present, mostly a way of going to the Dreamworld with a 100% chance (after your first visit). There may be more to come in future versions, but for now, it is kind of a more "powerfully embued" version of the basement of the Bunkhouse (where, I think, the chances are 1:3 of going to dreamworld when you sleep - which speaks volumes from a rp perspective ).

 

Do you mean the dremora in Dreamworld? If so, he and a fire autronach were added a while back. They part of the on-going development of the dreamworld into an ever-more interesting rp experience (along with more dialogs with Sanguine, new reactions and scenes, etc).

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

Small correction: sleeping in front of the shrine sends you to Dreamworld 100% of the time, even if you have not been to Dreamworld yet.

 

It is the only way to start the Dreamworld quest manually if you disable the automatic start after the first enslavement or 'A night to remember'.

[darkfender666]

Please can you explain me some stuff ? seems i'm to dumb to understand how to get better relationship with master (or maybe mod on my game doesn t work).

 

Started with -10 disposition and -10 relationship

 

Gave food, answered correctly (what do you want) and stuff and yet i am again -10 -10 after 1 day.

 

 

I swear i read the FAQ and the PDF.

 

 

[Wil]

 

It is normal to start trust and disposition very low.

 

I am still working on balance for the constant rapes.

 

When you are just starting, there is more emphasis on rapes and punishment to break you in. 

As a more established slave, you will be given more room to do things for your master other than entertainment.

 

 

I see, thanks for clearing it up. I was worried I made a mistake or something.

[skaal109]

This might have been answered previously, but when I am first enslaved, the arm and leg cuffs that are placed on me have a bluish/purple color. I'm not sure at the moment if this is a devious devices or an SD+ issue, but on the previous version of this mod it seemed to work fine. Also, I may have overlooked something, but should I be able to talk to my master immediately? Or do I need to have sex and follow him until he allows me to speak. I'm not entirely sure how the new version works, so any feedback is appreciated. Thanks so much for your hard work on this mod SkyrimII.

[Bane Master]

The surrender function does not seem to work. It just goes into bleedout and acts like I'm still in combat.

 

I have found that the default key map does not seem to work - if I map it to another key via the MCM it seems to work fine.

[Teddar]

This might have been answered previously, but when I am first enslaved, the arm and leg cuffs that are placed on me have a bluish/purple color. I'm not sure at the moment if this is a devious devices or an SD+ issue, but on the previous version of this mod it seemed to work fine. Also, I may have overlooked something, but should I be able to talk to my master immediately? Or do I need to have sex and follow him until he allows me to speak. I'm not entirely sure how the new version works, so any feedback is appreciated. Thanks so much for your hard work on this mod SkyrimII.

 

if stuff is blue, it sounds like you have missing textures. Check the Devious Devices thread and get the textures folder from there.

[stobor]

Some odd errors in the log, with the latest SD+:

 

 

 

[12/31/2014 - 01:37:49PM] Error: Array index -1 is out of range (0-8)
stack:
    [_SD_snp (8A004E0D)]._sdqs_snp.OnUpdate() - "_SDQS_snp.psc" Line ?
[12/31/2014 - 01:48:22PM] Error:  (00000014): is an Actor, and PlayAnimation should not be used..
stack:
    [ (00000014)].Actor.PlayAnimation() - "<native>" Line ?
    [ (8A056E4D)]._sdsf_snp_05.Fragment_27() - "_sdsf_snp_05.psc" Line 19

 

 

 

No indication (so far) that these errors are serious, just noting them in case something turns up later.

[Nepro]

That's a whole lot too much to ask. I fancy one day SD+ lets player become a master and enslave other NPCs. There seems to be already Sexlab Frameowrk for Enslavement.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/33878-s%C2%B3f-skyrim-slavery-system-framework/

[spid1005]

Hello i have a question, today i used a patch for SD: (btw. sorry for my not best(bad) english)

"Sanguine’s Debauchery Patches 0.77"

But after this patch escaping from the Master is so easy and i don't know if it's normal or not. I only need to get far away from the master wait 5 minuts(it says that master is writing something in training log) and i escaped... Before(without this patch) escaping was impossible this way. Is there something that i don't know about ?. And anyone can explain me it ? And another question what do u prefer 

Sanguine Debauchery with this patches or no ?

[Teddar]

Hello i have a question, today i used a patch for SD: (btw. sorry for my not best(bad) english)

"Sanguine’s Debauchery Patches 0.77"

But after this patch escaping from the Master is so easy and i don't know if it's normal or not. I only need to get far away from the master wait 5 minuts(it says that master is writing something in training log) and i escaped... Before(without this patch) escaping was impossible this way. Is there something that i don't know about ?. And anyone can explain me it ? And another question what do u prefer

Sanguine Debauchery with this patches or no ?

 

SD patches is not compatible with the latest versions of SD+ You need to remove it. Check requirements on the first page.

[Teddar]

 

 

Hello i have a question, today i used a patch for SD: (btw. sorry for my not best(bad) english)

"Sanguine’s Debauchery Patches 0.77"

But after this patch escaping from the Master is so easy and i don't know if it's normal or not. I only need to get far away from the master wait 5 minuts(it says that master is writing something in training log) and i escaped... Before(without this patch) escaping was impossible this way. Is there something that i don't know about ?. And anyone can explain me it ? And another question what do u prefer

Sanguine Debauchery with this patches or no ?

 

SD patches is not compatible with the latest versions of SD+ You need to remove it. Check requirements on the first page.

 

 

Ooo... thanks... but what will be better SD+ or SD patches ? What do u think ?

 

That's something you should decide for yourself. What you need to remember is that Patches improves a version that isn't being worked on currently, whereas SD+ 3 moves forward with new content and is still being worked on.

[BloodSplatter]

How do you sleep anywhere? Is it a hot key or a dialogue option? I haven't seen one.

 

Also I am not sure why but the thug quest is suddenly not working for me since I updated to 303. The thugs were already after me when I updated so would it be because of that? I tried going back to the previous version and it doesn't work there anymore either, even in earlier saves where 303 wasn't even saved into. Somehow removing the mod and then placing it back in has broken the quest : /. Is it possible that saving, closing the game, and coming back to it later during the thug quest (And yeah I saved just as they engaged me in combat) has somehow broken it. I should define how it's broken, basically I'm captured by the thugs and they escort me towards mistwatch but stop halfway on a road in the Rift, I tried the "Are we there yet?" which leads to the screen slowly fading to black and then unfading, but that's all. So the scene/s aren't firing for that particular quest for some reason. I also tried teleporting me and the owner-thug directly into mistwatch01 with the console but he just turned around and walked out the door.

[djsmfcja]

Hello. I've been using this mod but after updating it recently, no NPC(except falmer) could enslave my character. I think something is missed and am trying to find out, but still I have no idea what's the matter. Could you advise me what I should check?

[Buffmutti]

Ok, started a new game (just to make sure nothing "old" is in the game^^) and i set the minimum slave level to 3.

 

Then i went to a bandit camp and let them enslave my PC and then....surprise....the slave level is -10 and the owners trust level is -10 too.

 

-10? Seriously?

 

Even if i manage to gain 1 level per day then i would need 13 days to reach slave level 3 with which the enslavement should have started with.

The maximum time of enslavement is set to 5 days, which means unless i gain several slave levels per day the owner WILL sell the PC for sure (after 1 hour of enslavement the owner talked already about selling the PC, because of the high costs which he had (high costs? in 1 hour?))

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Ok, started a new game (just to make sure nothing "old" is in the game^^) and i set the minimum slave level to 3.

 

Then i went to a bandit camp and let them enslave my PC and then....surprise....the slave level is -10 and the owners trust level is -10 too.

 

-10? Seriously?

 

Even if i manage to gain 1 level per day then i would need 13 days to reach slave level 3 with which the enslavement should have started with.

The maximum time of enslavement is set to 5 days, which means unless i gain several slave levels per day the owner WILL sell the PC for sure (after 1 hour of enslavement the owner talked already about selling the PC, because of the high costs which he had (high costs? in 1 hour?))

 

Slavery level should only be a value between 0 and 6.

 

Can you send me a log or a screenshot where you see slavery level at -10?

[Teddar]

 

Ok, started a new game (just to make sure nothing "old" is in the game^^) and i set the minimum slave level to 3.

 

Then i went to a bandit camp and let them enslave my PC and then....surprise....the slave level is -10 and the owners trust level is -10 too.

 

-10? Seriously?

 

Even if i manage to gain 1 level per day then i would need 13 days to reach slave level 3 with which the enslavement should have started with.

The maximum time of enslavement is set to 5 days, which means unless i gain several slave levels per day the owner WILL sell the PC for sure (after 1 hour of enslavement the owner talked already about selling the PC, because of the high costs which he had (high costs? in 1 hour?))

 

Slavery level should only be a value between 0 and 6.

 

Can you send me a log or a screenshot where you see slavery level at -10?

 

I think he means disposition and trust, not slavery

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Ok, started a new game (just to make sure nothing "old" is in the game^^) and i set the minimum slave level to 3.

 

Then i went to a bandit camp and let them enslave my PC and then....surprise....the slave level is -10 and the owners trust level is -10 too.

 

-10? Seriously?

 

Even if i manage to gain 1 level per day then i would need 13 days to reach slave level 3 with which the enslavement should have started with.

The maximum time of enslavement is set to 5 days, which means unless i gain several slave levels per day the owner WILL sell the PC for sure (after 1 hour of enslavement the owner talked already about selling the PC, because of the high costs which he had (high costs? in 1 hour?))

 

Slavery level should only be a value between 0 and 6.

 

Can you send me a log or a screenshot where you see slavery level at -10?

 

I think he means disposition and trust, not slavery

 

 

Ok.. that makes more sense

 

You don't have to wait for 5 days.

 

When you get a new master, disposition and trust should be randomly assigned. Some masters will start angry and others happy.

 

Disposition is calculated after 24 hours or when you ask 'why me'. If you want to accelerate increases in disposition and trust, give the master what he/she wants (sex, punishments, food, gold), at least 2 or 3 of each goals and select 'why me' to refresh the scores. 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

I got frustrated in my test about not being able to go through doors while wearing a leash so I decided to experiment with a small variations.

 

Instead of teleporting the slave to the master when the collar chokes you, I am teleporting the master to the slave,

 

That makes more sense in terms of RP (the collar chokes you and makes you collapse.. your master has to walk to you to find you) and allows you to go through doors or nudge the master away from a boring area (just run away and the master will be wherever you choked unconscious).

 

The chance of punishment is still there - your master will want to punish you for taking the initiative to go through a door ahead of him/her.

 

if I don't find any issue with it, this will be part of the next update (released this weekend at the latest).

[carolight]

Hi, I've followed this mod for a while, thou haven't really used it to much.

I love mods that give consequences to your actions but don't want them to be to harsh.

Can someone tell me what are settings to set this to be the easiest to escape.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hi, I've followed this mod for a while, thou haven't really used it to much.

I love mods that give consequences to your actions but don't want them to be to harsh.

Can someone tell me what are settings to set this to be the easiest to escape.

 

The easiest way to escape is to improve your pickpocket skills.

 

You can also look for suggestions in this section of the wiki:

 

https://github.com/MinLL/SDPlus/wiki/ENSLAVEMENT#ending-enslavement 

[Teddar]

I got frustrated in my test about not being able to go through doors while wearing a leash so I decided to experiment with a small variations.

 

Instead of teleporting the slave to the master when the collar chokes you, I am teleporting the master to the slave,

 

That makes more sense in terms of RP (the collar chokes you and makes you collapse.. your master has to walk to you to find you) and allows you to go through doors or nudge the master away from a boring area (just run away and the master will be wherever you choked unconscious).

 

The chance of punishment is still there - your master will want to punish you for taking the initiative to go through a door ahead of him/her.

 

if I don't find any issue with it, this will be part of the next update (released this weekend at the latest).

 

Excellent idea Sir. Being able to travel around a little is a good idea. Its a shame that the old leash system for following the master was so problematic though  as that was my favourite system.