Skyrim Chain Beasts SE/AE/VR

[Tseverin]

I just COC'd Whiterun just to see what it look like and I'm really impressed. Great work.

[Seeker999]

Just started playing this mod. Skyrim get more dangerous by the day! Sometimes an npc will run towards me saying, "So pretty. Have to touch!" They don't actually touch me but what I want to know is if this is supposed to lead to something? Or is it just some sort of flavor?

[MTB]

On 2/23/2025 at 2:12 PM, Seeker999 said:

Just started playing this mod. Skyrim get more dangerous by the day! Sometimes an npc will run towards me saying, "So pretty. Have to touch!" They don't actually touch me but what I want to know is if this is supposed to lead to something? Or is it just some sort of flavor?

 

Spoiler

They won't touch you, but if you don't stop them, they will touch something, something shiny with pretty lights, something it's maybe better they don't touch...

Spoiler

If you talk to them they'll snap out of their trance, a bit confused about what they were doing, and go back to whatever they normally do.

If you don't... (you can follow them, see where they are going...)

Spoiler

They will walk to and activate a nearby chain beast mine.

 

 

 

[Seeker999]

Aah. ... thanks for the info.

[Thingolf]

Installed this mod and started new save, but the mod does not appear in the in game mcm.

[MTB]

11 hours ago, Thingolf said:

Installed this mod and started new save, but the mod does not appear in the in game mcm.

 

Check the basics;
  Correct version (e.g. not using SE on LE or visa versa)
  Full version, not just update
  Download successful (e.g. 7zip test archive)
  esm activated (and any selected esps, but with just the esm the MCM should appear)
  Waited long enough for all `MCM menu added' in the beginning of the game to have finished
  mod running (In console type: sqv SCB_InitQuest  
    should show lots of info with near the end a quest active true (or something along those lines) near the end.)

 

If those check out, it's most likely not an issue specific to this mod (even if it's only this mod that is not showing up).
Check for general `mcm mod menu not appearing' issues and solutions.

 

[Thingolf]

6 hours ago, MTB said:

 

Check the basics;
  Correct version (e.g. not using SE on LE or visa versa)
  Full version, not just update
  Download successful (e.g. 7zip test archive)
  esm activated (and any selected esps, but with just the esm the MCM should appear)
  Waited long enough for all `MCM menu added' in the beginning of the game to have finished
  mod running (In console type: sqv SCB_InitQuest  
    should show lots of info with near the end a quest active true (or something along those lines) near the end.)

 

If those check out, it's most likely not an issue specific to this mod (even if it's only this mod that is not showing up).
Check for general `mcm mod menu not appearing' issues and solutions.

 

Will try the consolde command thing.

[initforthebewbs]

Would you be interested in adding an option to have, instead of the mechanism leading you to a pole or local cell, the player to instead locked in the mechanism similar to a Devious Devices kit?

 

I really like the idea of a player being locked into the suit, but currently (AFAIK) you are only in it for the punishment duration before being dropped off without it.

[MTB]

22 hours ago, initforthebewbs said:

Would you be interested in adding an option to have, instead of the mechanism leading you to a pole or local cell, the player to instead locked in the mechanism similar to a Devious Devices kit?

 

I really like the idea of a player being locked into the suit, but currently (AFAIK) you are only in it for the punishment duration before being dropped off without it.

 

>you are only in it for the punishment duration before being dropped off without it.

Mostly yes

Spoiler

You can use most larger creatures as mounts, if you manage to kill them (loot a chain spider...).

But that does not work with the small ones (including K9 type).  The K9 one is implemented as an armor, so you could wear it (add with AddMenuItem or similar) and if you update the OAR condition for crawling to include wornhaskeyword (or whatever it's called in OAR) SCB_Crawler you'll also be crawling any time while wearing it. But it won't be `locked' on.  (Current locking mechanism only works for the restraints, not the crawler/suit.)

 

Considered options for having them equipped longer, requiring the PC do something else to get free, but never came up with a satisfactory & feasible story line.

(Dormant beasts; they're locked on but not currently active, may wake up, take the PC somewhere, but then lock back on, NPCs may react to it, ...)

 

[Fraying9981]

i really like the idea.
just tested it midgame on npcs in whiterun. pure chaos!  

the integration with Pahe is great.

do i get how it works clearly? dropped a mine, some chain dogs go around, strip npcs, then the npcs crawl to some place where they are chained against the wall. is that it?

i found 3 spells in the console: ride spider, summon chain beast and the mine spell. are there other spells?

 

not sure I get where NPCs always crawl to, sometimes they just seem to patrol.

Also noted the two following things about compatibility

- not compatible with fnis sexy move because SM overrides crawling apparently

- interactive bdsm seems to make chained npcs with each other. not game breaking either but just strange

Edited March 8, 2025 by Fraying9981

[MTB]

On 3/8/2025 at 5:35 PM, Fraying9981 said:

i really like the idea.
just tested it midgame on npcs in whiterun. pure chaos!  

the integration with Pahe is great.

do i get how it works clearly? dropped a mine, some chain dogs go around, strip npcs, then the npcs crawl to some place where they are chained against the wall. is that it?

i found 3 spells in the console: ride spider, summon chain beast and the mine spell. are there other spells?

 

not sure I get where NPCs always crawl to, sometimes they just seem to patrol.

Also noted the two following things about compatibility

- not compatible with fnis sexy move because SM overrides crawling apparently

- interactive bdsm seems to make chained npcs with each other. not game breaking either but just strange

 

> npcs crawl to some place where they are chained against the wall. is that it?

Outcome wise that is the main one, other one for NPCs is capture by PC.  There's some specifically for the PC as well. 

There's also a whole quest line and some side quests. 

(Using the mine and summon spells must be exhausting, perhaps have a nap...).

 

>mine, some chain dogs

Did you try the big one outside of Whiterun...

 

>not sure I get where NPCs always crawl to, sometimes they just seem to patrol.

If all spots are full they'll wait for a turn near one, though it may not be the one they use in the end if another one is free first.

You can see where a specific victim is going in the status menu. (Click on victim -> Where am I going.)

 

>i found 3 spells in the console: ride spider, summon chain beast and the mine spell. are there other spells?

While those are key ones, there's more; you can obtain them from the quest line/side quests.

 

 

> - not compatible with fnis sexy move because SM overrides crawling apparently

If SM applies a new `alternate animation' it will likely override the crawling indeed. I guess it would also break DD/ZAP for cases those you use full alternate animations and not just eg arm positions... 

Using an OAR based replacer for SM would offer even more options and make it possible to solve such conflicts. (By adjusting priorities if needed.)

Resetting affected NPC in the status menu may reinstate the crawling animation, but would not prevent is being overridden again;

a keyword check or something in SM would be needed.

 

> - interactive bdsm seems to make chained npcs with each other. not game breaking either but just strange

?  You mean NPCs wearing chains may still be selected to interact with those in the furniture?   (But not the crawling ones I assume?)

 

 

[Fraying9981]

4 hours ago, MTB said:

 

> npcs crawl to some place where they are chained against the wall. is that it?

Outcome wise that is the main one, other one for NPCs is capture by PC.  There's some specifically for the PC as well. 

There's also a whole quest line and some side quests. 

(Using the mine and summon spells must be exhausting, perhaps have a nap...).

 

>mine, some chain dogs

Did you try the big one outside of Whiterun...

 

>not sure I get where NPCs always crawl to, sometimes they just seem to patrol.

If all spots are full they'll wait for a turn near one, though it may not be the one they use in the end if another one is free first.

You can see where a specific victim is going in the status menu. (Click on victim -> Where am I going.)

 

>i found 3 spells in the console: ride spider, summon chain beast and the mine spell. are there other spells?

While those are key ones, there's more; you can obtain them from the quest line/side quests.

 

 

> - not compatible with fnis sexy move because SM overrides crawling apparently

If SM applies a new `alternate animation' it will likely override the crawling indeed. I guess it would also break DD/ZAP for cases those you use full alternate animations and not just eg arm positions... 

Using an OAR based replacer for SM would offer even more options and make it possible to solve such conflicts. (By adjusting priorities if needed.)

Resetting affected NPC in the status menu may reinstate the crawling animation, but would not prevent is being overridden again;

a keyword check or something in SM would be needed.

 

> - interactive bdsm seems to make chained npcs with each other. not game breaking either but just strange

?  You mean NPCs wearing chains may still be selected to interact with those in the furniture?   (But not the crawling ones I assume?)

 

 

 

Thanks for the thorough reply!

 

I unlocked the quests and doing them now. Really like the way the quest line is triggered and the world integration (not spoiling here )

 

Regarding SM, indeed I switched to OAR version and it works well together with CB.

 

Interactive bdsm: what i meant = when crawling npcs compete for the same spot to hang on the wall, the one waiting starts playing with the one on the wall, breaking its crawl animations. Again not a very big issue, jfyi

 

Regarding the quest line: it says i should get rid of the mines and beasts everywhere. Please dont spoil, but does the questline completely remove CB from the game? Are they no longer usable after destroying the mines?

[MTB]

15 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

Regarding the quest line: it says i should get rid of the mines and beasts everywhere. Please dont spoil, but does the questline completely remove CB from the game? Are they no longer usable after destroying the mines?

>rid of mines

specific ones.

>completely remove

no worries,  plenty of CB related antics left (so maybe I should be saying worry! worry a lot!).

 

[natybs]

will we ever get the ability to summon the chain dragon or the floating cage beast?

[MTB]

14 hours ago, natybs said:

will we ever get the ability to summon the chain dragon or the floating cage beast?

 

There is no such ability in the current version.

(Might add in future versions. Creating the spells is easy enough, just need to think of a fun or at least fitting way to integrate them... I wonder what happens if a summons summons summons ... Prisoner's Chain Dragon's Chain priest? )

 

[Dendriah]

is there only one thing in the bodyslide stuff for this or am i missin something?

 

[natybs]

8 hours ago, MTB said:

 

There is no such ability in the current version.

(Might add in future versions. Creating the spells is easy enough, just need to think of a fun or at least fitting way to integrate them... I wonder what happens if a summons summons summons ... Prisoner's Chain Dragon's Chain priest? )

 

i noticed you can spawn them and ive never run into one in the wild i assume i need to find the aspect first? can you sue the bend will shout to ride them?

[MTB]

14 hours ago, Dendriah said:

is there only one thing in the bodyslide stuff for this or am i missin something?

 

 

There's two `armors', with 2 variations of one so 3 entries in total.  (The `armor' shape does not change, only the body inside it.)

(All other beasts are `ridden' rather than `worn'.)

 

10 hours ago, natybs said:

i noticed you can spawn them and ive never run into one in the wild i assume i need to find the aspect first? can you sue the bend will shout to ride them?

 

>bend will

I don't think that will work.

 

floating cage

Spoiler

There is one quest involving this.

Spoiler

Ask Retching Netch Barkeep about work.

I may have added them to some Solstheim random encounter lists (using the level setting of Mobile Prison beast) but not sure and seems those are not used as much as the ones in Skyrim.

You can ride them with the `reanimate & ride' spell.

 

chain dragon

Spoiler

You'll need to unlock these in the quest sequence

Spoiler

Need to have chainbreaker; look at it's tempering requirements and then talk to the Lore master about it.

After unlocking they can be encountered e.g. as result of traps (but rare).

 

You can ride them (but they will only walk, not fly, while mounted) with the reanimate&ride spell.

 

[KellyInTrouble]

This mod is absolutely amazing. I am so glad I found it!   It really hits that perfect blend of sexy fun and adventure, and I'm really enjoying the challenge level! 

 

One thing has me stumped so far...

Spoiler

In the "In Your Dreams" quest, I am stumped and would love a hint. I searched all the spider webs and freed myself and got the weapon. 

 

I cut through the spider webs into the room with the spider, defeated him and then the mimic bedroll. Then I don't know what to do. I tried reanimating the spider, but that doesn't seem to accomplish anything. 

 

 

Thank you for such a fun adventure! I particularly love how many different ways you put these wonderful devices to work. There's so much variety to it that it's easily kept my interest for days now!

Edited March 16, 2025 by KellyInTrouble

[MTB]

2 hours ago, KellyInTrouble said:

This mod is absolutely amazing. I am so glad I found it!   It really hits that perfect blend of sexy fun and adventure, and I'm really enjoying the challenge level! 

 

One thing has me stumped so far...

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In the "In Your Dreams" quest, I am stumped and would love a hint. I searched all the spider webs and freed myself and got the weapon. 

 

I cut through the spider webs into the room with the spider, defeated him and then the mimic bedroll. Then I don't know what to do. I tried reanimating the spider, but that doesn't seem to accomplish anything. 

 

 

Thank you for such a fun adventure! I particularly love how many different ways you put these wonderful devices to work. There's so much variety to it that it's easily kept my interest for days now!

 

Spoiler

Don't forget to pick up the tome ... then you've reached your goal so it's time to leave this dream realm behind. Do you know a way to travel between realms?

Spoiler

The same thing you used to enter the dream: go to sleep.  (Activate the bedroll, the one on the table...)

 

 

[KellyInTrouble]

Spoiler

Thank you so much! It  was the time I was missing!!

 

[Seeker999]

I'm only asking here because I see you have a script 'SCB_SettingsScript.pex' and I am start to get a little desperate.

This is my issue: the game's sound settings for effects always reverts to max volume no matter how many times I change it. None of my other sound settings change, only the effects setting. This is one of only a couple of new mods I'm trying, not counting upgrades.

I realize it's a long shot, but I'd really like to fix this problem.

I am posting in a technical support forum as well.

Thank you.

 

I am enjoying the mod so far. Those mobile cage mammoths are worse than dragons! Good thing I have a lot of followers and pets!

[Fraying9981]

I really like the mod too.

 

I started the mine clearing list and the chained beasts are level 35. I have a lower level. What's the minimum recommended level to do the quest?

[MTB]

8 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

I'm only asking here because I see you have a script 'SCB_SettingsScript.pex' and I am start to get a little desperate.

This is my issue: the game's sound settings for effects always reverts to max volume no matter how many times I change it. None of my other sound settings change, only the effects setting. This is one of only a couple of new mods I'm trying, not counting upgrades.

I realize it's a long shot, but I'd really like to fix this problem.

I am posting in a technical support forum as well.

Thank you.

 

I am enjoying the mod so far. Those mobile cage mammoths are worse than dragons! Good thing I have a lot of followers and pets!

 

That settings script just defines a few properties for use in the mod's scripts and conditions, it has no relation to any system settings.

Afaik (but that's not very far...) those get set in .ini files, wouldn't expect this mod to impact such system settings.

 

44 minutes ago, Fraying9981 said:

I really like the mod too.

 

I started the mine clearing list and the chained beasts are level 35. I have a lower level. What's the minimum recommended level to do the quest?

 

The beasts actually level a bit faster than the PC.  Some beasts have a higher minimum level, but not the ones summoned by those mines.

No minimum recommended level. Nearly all my testing is with low level chars (as often testing is best done on a new game...). 

While some tweaking of setting may be needed to get a reasonable difficulty at any level, at higher levels it likely needs a lot of tweaking.

Lowering the max number of (extra) beasts may be advisable, or you may get huge mobs at higher levels.

Lowering the byte strength (either base or increase or both), possibly setting a health penalty for small and medium beasts.

(Getting the `aid' is advised if you've got a melee style character.)

Spoiler

Triggered by PC or a follower getting captured during this quest.

 

 

[Seeker999]

12 hours ago, MTB said:

That settings script just defines a few properties for use in the mod's scripts and conditions, it has no relation to any system settings.

Afaik (but that's not very far...) those get set in .ini files, wouldn't expect this mod to impact such system settings.

Thanks for the reply. I knew it was a long shot. It's just odd that it's only the one setting that reverts to the default value on game load. I change it in game, the .ini updates, but that one change doesn't last on loading. I think I might have to stop running down the rabbit hole and figure out a workaround. Thanks again.