Mad_Monty Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 (edited) Hi, I need some help fixing a body bug that I haven't seen before. While playing and not wearing clothes I keep getting this bug where the body goes transparent. A gap is also formed around the wrist area and the arms go transparent when in front of the rest of the body. I have added screen shots that show this. Other Effects that I think are related. while wearing base game clothes there is no issue but modded clothes has a clipping effect in the Chest and butt area. This clipping is worse than what I would think is normal. The NPCs in the screen shots that are not affected by the bug never wear clothes in the mods I have loaded. the Bug doesn't affect me in the character creator So you might have to wear clothes for it to affect the character models This is not causing me to crash so I'm not sure if a Papyrus log is needed. I'm trying to follow the rules and supply all the need info. I have another bug where the water sound and animation resets when you move or look around. But I don't think its related. I added this information just in case. I've tried reloaded and readded CBBE, joy of perspective and XP32. I feel like I might be having an issue with Body slide, but I use the build body morphs option. I appreciate any info or help on this as I've run out of ideas. Load Order Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 7 7 SexLab.esm 8 8 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm 11 b Devious Devices - Assets.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Integration.esm 13 d Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm 15 f CreatureFramework.esm 16 10 RidingStyles2.esm 17 11 hdtHighHeel.esm 18 12 Cutting Room Floor.esp 19 13 SkyUI.esp 20 14 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 21 15 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 22 16 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 23 17 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 24 18 MilkModNEW.esp 25 19 TreasureHunterWhore.esp 26 1a MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp 27 1b SexLab-Stories.esp 28 1c SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 29 1d SexLab_Solutions.esp 30 1e hydra_slavegirls.esp 31 1f SexLab Confabulation.esp 32 20 Public Whore.esp 33 21 SkyrimImmersionPatch.esp 34 22 SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 35 23 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 36 24 Devious Lore.esp 37 25 SLUTS.esp 38 26 CustomComments.esp 39 27 BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp 40 28 SkyrimImmersionPatch-Legendary.esp 41 29 TentaCave.esp 42 2a SkyrimImmersionPatch-ESO.esp 43 2b BooksOfDibella.esp 44 2c submissivelola_est.esp 45 2d kal_LolaAddon.esp 46 2e SimpleSlavery.esp 47 2f MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 48 30 PetProject.esp 49 31 zSLSDNeophytes.esp 50 32 FNISspells.esp 51 33 FNIS.esp 52 34 RaceMenu.esp 53 35 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 54 36 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 55 37 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 56 38 KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp 57 39 KKSDrBWeightFix.esp 58 3a DHuntress.esp 59 3b KKFur.esp 60 3c FullBootForKKSA.esp 61 3d FlameAtronachArmor.esp 62 3e UIExtensions.esp 63 3f AddItemMenuLE.esp 64 40 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 65 41 Marriable Serana.esp 66 42 Marriable Serana HF.esp 67 43 zDarkArena.esp 68 44 UthgerdYounger.esp 69 45 SlaveTats.esp 70 46 SexistGuards.esp 71 47 PWComments.esp 72 48 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 73 49 sr_FillHerUp.esp 74 4a Horgasm.esp 75 4b Sunstarved_Tanlines.esp 76 4c Apropos2.esp 77 4d Devious Devices - Lore Patch.esp 78 4e Devious Chastity Piercing.esp 79 4f Dwarven Devious Cuirass Variations.esp 80 50 SkyrimImmersionPatch-seasons.esp 81 51 SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp 82 52 Blush When Aroused.esp 83 53 DW.esp 84 54 MilkModNEW HF.esp 85 55 MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp 86 56 titkit.esp 87 57 SLAnimLoader.esp 88 58 TTT_ArousedNips.esp 89 59 MoreNastyCritters.esp 90 5a XPMSE.esp 91 5b SOSRaceMenu.esp 92 5c 12FemaleBrows.esp 93 5d Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 94 5e ccas_starts.esp 95 5f Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp Screen Shots Spoiler Edited July 8, 2024 by Mad_Monty updating
t.ara Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 30 minutes ago, Mad_Monty said: Hi, I need some help fixing a body bug that I haven't seen before. While playing and not wearing clothes I keep getting this bug where the body goes transparent. A gap is also formed around the wrist area and the arms go transparent when in front of the rest of the body. I have added screen shots that show this. Other Effects that I think are related. while wearing base game clothes there is no issue but modded clothes has a clipping effect in the Chest and butt area. This clipping is worse than what I would think is normal. The NPCs in the screen shots that are not affected by the bug never wear clothes in the mods I have loaded. the Bug doesn't affect me in the character creator So you might have to wear clothes for it to affect the character models This is not causing me to crash so I'm not sure if a Papyrus log is needed. I'm trying to follow the rules and supply all the need info. I have another bug where the water sound and animation resets when you move or look around. But I don't think its related. I added this information just in case. I've tried reloaded and readded CBBE, joy of perspective and XP32. I feel like I might be having an issue with Body slide, but I use the build body morphs option. I appreciate any info or help on this as I've run out of ideas. [spoiler] Load Order [/spoiler] LoadOrder_Skyrim_2024-07-01T19-20-24.txt 2.3 kB · 0 downloads i did not see the load order but first aspect to become checked is, if our game is almost skyrim LE or SE. Compare this with all the mods and tools you have installed and check if the mods all do suit to the related game. a next problem may occure if using a different skin texture for a not suiting female body. CBBE skin is made for a cbbe-body mesh and so on. Gaps only occure from animation torsions and normally may not be visible during normal game situations. SSE has a different slot system in use and when it comes to their clothing, all those have to suit to sse itself...if a cloth is not matching then to sse, it is possible that parts of the legs and arms are invisible, caused by the body slot stystem of sse (check the mods as usually). Normally such phenomena you have here occure only by mixing skyrim sse mods with oldrim mods, so far I made my experiences about that when creating assets for the CBBE SMP legacy body for SSE so far in the past.
Mad_Monty Posted July 7, 2024 Author Posted July 7, 2024 3 hours ago, t.ara said: i did not see the load order but first aspect to become checked is, if our game is almost skyrim LE or SE. Compare this with all the mods and tools you have installed and check if the mods all do suit to the related game. a next problem may occure if using a different skin texture for a not suiting female body. CBBE skin is made for a cbbe-body mesh and so on. Gaps only occure from animation torsions and normally may not be visible during normal game situations. SSE has a different slot system in use and when it comes to their clothing, all those have to suit to sse itself...if a cloth is not matching then to sse, it is possible that parts of the legs and arms are invisible, caused by the body slot stystem of sse (check the mods as usually). Normally such phenomena you have here occure only by mixing skyrim sse mods with oldrim mods, so far I made my experiences about that when creating assets for the CBBE SMP legacy body for SSE so far in the past. Ok, that fair. I forgot to say that I'm using LE. I think almost all my mods are made for LE. some are for SE but are compatible for LE. I'll take your advice and double check the mods in case there was something I missed. I'll post again once I've checked. I might even go so far as to remove the SE compatible mods and repost my load order if the bug is still there.
Dorabella Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 21 minutes ago, Mad_Monty said: repost my load order As said by T.ara , I doubt very much it is a loading order.Bodyslide, does not fit into these factors. It is more likely to be the skeleton 1) Make sure you are using the correct DDS , based on the type of Bodymorph you have in use 2) Reshapes the body, hands and feet 3) If you are using mods that replace NPC's , make sure they are of the type of Bodymorph in use 4) Reinstall XPMSE 5) Launch FNIS with Skeleton Patch active 6) Make sure that the mods of SSE , are properly converted for LE . Even if they are compatible, they may not necessarily work properly 7) If the problem persists , post here , the FNIS Report 1
Kastagir Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 (edited) Lack of textures at hips is a sign of using UNP/default textures on a CBBE-based body. UNP and default textures use the same UV mapping so you don't technically need a body texture mod if you're using UNP/UUNP/BHUNP/etc unless you want to see the private bits. CBBE uses a different UV map so you need body textures made specifically for CBBE. And it doesn't look to me that the actor's arms are transparent - they are clipping through the actor's enormous breasts. The "cover self" animation that you have installed likely isn't meant to work with those proportions. The gap at the wrists is due to the ArmorAddOn record not being properly configured for body and hands, leaving something to prevent the forearms from showing. Providing your load order (in a spoiler, please) would be the next step in seeking assistance with this problem. Edited July 7, 2024 by Kastagir 2
Mad_Monty Posted July 8, 2024 Author Posted July 8, 2024 (edited) 18 hours ago, Kastagir said: Lack of textures at hips is a sign of using UNP/default textures on a CBBE-based body. UNP and default textures use the same UV mapping so you don't technically need a body texture mod if you're using UNP/UUNP/BHUNP/etc unless you want to see the private bits. CBBE uses a different UV map so you need body textures made specifically for CBBE. And it doesn't look to me that the actor's arms are transparent - they are clipping through the actor's enormous breasts. The "cover self" animation that you have installed likely isn't meant to work with those proportions. The gap at the wrists is due to the ArmorAddOn record not being properly configured for body and hands, leaving something to prevent the forearms from showing. Providing your load order (in a spoiler, please) would be the next step in seeking assistance with this problem. Hi. thanks for the advice I'm using CBBE and have tried to make sure I've chosen the correct options for mods when having to choose between CBBE and UNP. I'll edit my first post to fix it up and add the load order correctly. I'm new to posting so I'll keep editing it to make it better, if I get it wrong I apologize in advance. I don't think it's the boobs being crazy big. I'm using the curvy CBBE option and have made no other adjustments to size, But I agree that my screen shots don't make that clear, I'll take new screenshots with different angles to try and show it better. Edited July 8, 2024 by Mad_Monty
Mad_Monty Posted July 8, 2024 Author Posted July 8, 2024 22 hours ago, Dorabella said: As said by T.ara , I doubt very much it is a loading order.Bodyslide, does not fit into these factors. It is more likely to be the skeleton 1) Make sure you are using the correct DDS , based on the type of Bodymorph you have in use 2) Reshapes the body, hands and feet 3) If you are using mods that replace NPC's , make sure they are of the type of Bodymorph in use 4) Reinstall XPMSE 5) Launch FNIS with Skeleton Patch active 6) Make sure that the mods of SSE , are properly converted for LE . Even if they are compatible, they may not necessarily work properly 7) If the problem persists , post here , the FNIS Report Thanks for the List I'm currently working my way through it. I'm going through step 1 and 6 atm I've done 3, 4 and 5. I've never had to do step 2 before so 'I'm hoping it doesn't come to that. I'm also going to remove every skin mod I have installed that would affect appearance like " Fair skin complexion" and better looking females by bella" to see if that makes a difference.
Dorabella Posted July 8, 2024 Posted July 8, 2024 3 hours ago, Mad_Monty said: Fair skin complexion If you have alternative textures, you can conveniently eliminate it There are different types of textures : Diamond Skin , Demoniac Skin , The Pure Skin , Vera Skin , Leyenda Skin , these are some . What matters , is to install for the type of Bodymorph in use 1
Kastagir Posted July 8, 2024 Posted July 8, 2024 On 7/7/2024 at 1:08 AM, Mad_Monty said: Load Order Reveal hidden contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 7 7 SexLab.esm 8 8 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm 11 b Devious Devices - Assets.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Integration.esm 13 d Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm 15 f CreatureFramework.esm 16 10 RidingStyles2.esm 17 11 hdtHighHeel.esm 18 12 Cutting Room Floor.esp 19 13 SkyUI.esp 20 14 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 21 15 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 22 16 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 23 17 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 24 18 MilkModNEW.esp 25 19 TreasureHunterWhore.esp 26 1a MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp 27 1b SexLab-Stories.esp 28 1c SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 29 1d SexLab_Solutions.esp 30 1e hydra_slavegirls.esp 31 1f SexLab Confabulation.esp 32 20 Public Whore.esp 33 21 SkyrimImmersionPatch.esp 34 22 SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 35 23 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 36 24 Devious Lore.esp 37 25 SLUTS.esp 38 26 CustomComments.esp 39 27 BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp 40 28 SkyrimImmersionPatch-Legendary.esp 41 29 TentaCave.esp 42 2a SkyrimImmersionPatch-ESO.esp 43 2b BooksOfDibella.esp 44 2c submissivelola_est.esp 45 2d kal_LolaAddon.esp 46 2e SimpleSlavery.esp 47 2f MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 48 30 PetProject.esp 49 31 zSLSDNeophytes.esp 50 32 FNISspells.esp 51 33 FNIS.esp 52 34 RaceMenu.esp 53 35 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 54 36 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 55 37 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 56 38 KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp 57 39 KKSDrBWeightFix.esp 58 3a DHuntress.esp 59 3b KKFur.esp 60 3c FullBootForKKSA.esp 61 3d FlameAtronachArmor.esp 62 3e UIExtensions.esp 63 3f AddItemMenuLE.esp 64 40 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 65 41 Marriable Serana.esp 66 42 Marriable Serana HF.esp 67 43 zDarkArena.esp 68 44 UthgerdYounger.esp 69 45 SlaveTats.esp 70 46 SexistGuards.esp 71 47 PWComments.esp 72 48 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 73 49 sr_FillHerUp.esp 74 4a Horgasm.esp 75 4b Sunstarved_Tanlines.esp 76 4c Apropos2.esp 77 4d Devious Devices - Lore Patch.esp 78 4e Devious Chastity Piercing.esp 79 4f Dwarven Devious Cuirass Variations.esp 80 50 SkyrimImmersionPatch-seasons.esp 81 51 SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp 82 52 Blush When Aroused.esp 83 53 DW.esp 84 54 MilkModNEW HF.esp 85 55 MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp 86 56 titkit.esp 87 57 SLAnimLoader.esp 88 58 TTT_ArousedNips.esp 89 59 MoreNastyCritters.esp 90 5a XPMSE.esp 91 5b SOSRaceMenu.esp 92 5c 12FemaleBrows.esp 93 5d Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 94 5e ccas_starts.esp 95 5f Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp I'm not familiar with several of these mods so I don't know if any of them are responsible for the wrists being invisible. I suspect this is because a mod is forcing slot 34 (forearms) to be occupied when it should not be (e.g. when naked). Try unequipping everything from your character and see if it solves the problem. If it does, re-equip items until the problem occurs and that should identify the mod responsible. The easiest way to unequip everything from your character is to open the console with ~, type prid 14 to select your character and type unequipall - then close the console with ~ again. I also don't recognize any textures but they wouldn't normally show up in a .esp list. To confirm you have CBBE-compatible textures installed, try opening the body mesh up in either Nifskope or Outfit studio and see if it looks correct. If it doesn't, post a screenshot. You can find the body meshes at \meshes\actors\character assets\femalebody_1.nif unless you are using a custom race (which I didn't recognize among your load order). If it looks correct in either of those two applications then a mod is causing the problem and not a texture. 1
Mad_Monty Posted July 9, 2024 Author Posted July 9, 2024 I think I might have found the answer. I'll have to play the game for longer to make sure. I removed all the skin/appearance mods like I planned. I also changed my FPS as that was causing havoc with the water and animals in the game. When I loaded in the issue was gone. Step by step I reloaded the removed mods to find the one that caused it. Currently all the mods are loaded and the bug hasn't returned. I'm thinking the bug was caused by 2 possible things: 1 how the skin mods overwrite each other. 2 the FPS was affecting the HDT areas of the character and npcs. I could be wrong and the bug will come back. In which case I'll edit this post. but if everything goes correctly, I'd like to thank everyone for the ideas and help.
Grey Cloud Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Mad_Monty said: I'm thinking the bug was caused by 2 possible things: 1 how the skin mods overwrite each other. 2 the FPS was affecting the HDT areas of the character and npcs. In other words user error.
Mad_Monty Posted July 11, 2024 Author Posted July 11, 2024 (edited) You're not wrong Grey Cloud. It was definitely not my first guess that FPS would affect so much in Skyrim LE like that. Hopefully this will help others. Plus, learning the process of fault finding and posting was useful. I've currently got a CTD that happens after/during sexlab animations. But I'm hoping I can figure out in my spare time and fix it. After a few weeks if I run out of ideas I can always come back here and post a new help topic. Because of this user error I'll be better prepared to lay out all the relevant info and make sure I've covered the common faults I've learned here and seen posted elsewhere. Edited July 11, 2024 by Mad_Monty
Grey Cloud Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 (edited) I always assume user error with any problem including my own. If you hear hoof beats, think horses not zebras. Load order stuffed full of DD mods and character stuck in a strange position with something affecting hands? Another clue would be the texture mismatch at the biceps and half way up the thigh. The regular body texture extends to the wrists and ankles so maybe some sort of DD gloves and boots are involved. If you have problems with the hands it's always worth having a look at the feet. Did you build things correctly in Bodyslide, i.e. body, hands and feet and not just body? Physics in LE can be problematic so it can be a good idea to cap FPS at 60 (or 58-59) or whatever your monitor's refresh rate. CTD post animation could be related to redressing. DD again? Edited July 11, 2024 by Grey Cloud 1
Mad_Monty Posted July 14, 2024 Author Posted July 14, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 8:33 PM, Grey Cloud said: I always assume user error with any problem including my own. If you hear hoof beats, think horses not zebras. Load order stuffed full of DD mods and character stuck in a strange position with something affecting hands? Another clue would be the texture mismatch at the biceps and half way up the thigh. The regular body texture extends to the wrists and ankles so maybe some sort of DD gloves and boots are involved. If you have problems with the hands it's always worth having a look at the feet. Did you build things correctly in Bodyslide, i.e. body, hands and feet and not just body? Physics in LE can be problematic so it can be a good idea to cap FPS at 60 (or 58-59) or whatever your monitor's refresh rate. CTD post animation could be related to redressing. DD again? Thats some great info that I'll use going forward when it comes to fixing my modded Skyrim. I'll definitely do some checking and see if I've done some more user error. As for CTD it happens mostly after the animation but can happen during. It's about a 70-30 split. I don't have any of the DD equipped. I'm still just playing the game fresh to test stuff out and look for any issues. So, I haven't gone into the content that much of either game or mods. I think it might be an animation loading issue or memory issue. I've being looking into bug fix mods that I don't have installed yet that might help. or changing script in the .ini There is no issue I can see with the character models. Sometimes I can't get the game to load a save and it CTD or just backscreens but that's usually after the first animation CTD and doesn't happen all the time. Reloading an older save seem to fix it until I try to use sexlab animations again. When it loads everything works till the animation starts. The animation seems to work fine and then straight after it ends or out of nowhere, I get a CTD. Is there a good guide for getting a papyrus log to find the cause for crashing? I haven't done that before and I'm a little confused on how to do it.
Dorabella Posted July 14, 2024 Posted July 14, 2024 6 hours ago, Mad_Monty said: I think it might be an animation loading issue or memory issue FNIS report 6 hours ago, Mad_Monty said: Is there a good guide for getting a papyrus log to find the cause for crashing? Documents/My games/Skyrim/Skyrim.ini ,active log Papyrus Spoiler 1
Grey Cloud Posted July 14, 2024 Posted July 14, 2024 8 hours ago, Mad_Monty said: Is there a good guide for getting a papyrus log to find the cause for crashing? Papyrus isn't much use for crashes as the log is not in real time - what's written is some ways behind what is happening. There are no 'at a glance' crash reporters. Skyrim Performance Monitor https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/6491 For LE https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/ https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimLE:3.0.0 1
Mad_Monty Posted July 17, 2024 Author Posted July 17, 2024 On 7/14/2024 at 4:56 PM, Dorabella said: FNIS report Reveal hidden contents With the FNIS Report. Thats what comes up after FNIS has finished updating the behaviors I'm using FNIS XXL and NNM to activate my mods and tools My FNIS screen shot Spoiler So, am I right in understanding that the CTD percentage is the chance I'll have at crashing during any animation? I'm also guessing that my CTD percentage is really high, compared to what is normal. Those mods that have high percentage such as DD V4.0.0 with 13% Or as seen in the Screen shot zaz animation pack with 7.9% Do I reload the mod to fix this issue?
Dorabella Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 12 hours ago, Mad_Monty said: I'm also guessing that my CTD percentage is really high, compared to what is normal. it gets worse . 12 hours ago, Mad_Monty said: zaz animation pack It is considered almost mandatory. It is required on many sex mods . Recharge it, I don't think it solves the prob Since FNIS , seems not to detect anything ( a full report would be better ) , Reinstall XPMSE , launch FNIS with Skeleton Patch active . If you have not done so , use LOOT to optimize the loading order. If necessary , clean up the masters with XEdit Reinstall XPMSE , launch FNIS with Skeleton Patch active . If you have not done so , use LOOT to optimize the loading order. If necessary , clean up the masters with XEdit It could also be HDT + HDTSMP 1
Qviddhartha Posted July 18, 2024 Posted July 18, 2024 15 hours ago, Mad_Monty said: So, am I right in understanding that the CTD percentage is the chance I'll have at crashing during any animation? I think it's rather how close you are to the max. This is my FNIS summary, and I have no reason to think any of my CTDs are due to idles: 11843 animations for 52 mods successfully included (character). ChAnims: 11843 CTD:89.9% pOpt:17.2% max: 13176 LC: 23516 (max. 26162) 2594 animations for 10 mods and 42 creatures successfully included.. 1
Dorabella Posted July 18, 2024 Posted July 18, 2024 The causes , unfortunately, can be endless . My FNIS Report . To these animations, all installed DARs should be added. Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL 18/07/2024 18:07:23 Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Games\steam\steamapps\common\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim - Legendary Edition\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:679 CTD:3,9% pOpt:0,9% Reading Anubs Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:1300 CTD:7,6% pOpt:1,7% Reading AyasatoAnims V1.0 ... ChAnims:90 CTD:0,5% pOpt:0,1% Reading BaboAnimation V5 ... ChAnims:76 CTD:0,8% pOpt:0,4% Reading BaboApproachRedux V5 ... ChAnims:26 CTD:0,3% pOpt:0,2% Reading BaboHorribleHarassment V5 ... ChAnims:41 CTD:0,5% pOpt:0,3% Reading BaboMotionData V?.? ... ChAnims:159 CTD:1,8% pOpt:1,1% Reading Bathing in Skyrim V?.? ... ChAnims:14 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... ChAnims:379 CTD:2,3% pOpt:0,6% Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... ChAnims:150 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:56 CTD:0,4% pOpt:0,1% Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... ChAnims:371 CTD:2,3% pOpt:0,6% Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoidsLarge V1.0 ... ChAnims:290 CTD:1,8% pOpt:0,4% Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... ChAnims:260 CTD:1,6% pOpt:0,4% Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:980 CTD:6,0% pOpt:1,5% Reading Billyy_HumanDD V1.0 ... ChAnims:390 CTD:2,4% pOpt:0,6% Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:182 CTD:1,1% pOpt:0,3% Reading Billyy_HumanFurnitureInvis V1.0 ... ChAnims:292 CTD:1,8% pOpt:0,4% Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ... ChAnims:300 CTD:1,9% pOpt:0,5% Reading Billyy_HumanLesbianDD V1.0 ... ChAnims:120 CTD:0,8% pOpt:0,2% Reading Billyy_HumanOrgy V1.0 ... ChAnims:222 CTD:1,3% pOpt:0,3% Reading Defeat V5 ... ChAnims:30 CTD:0,4% pOpt:0,2% Reading FNISBase V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0,0% pOpt:0,0% Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0,0% pOpt:0,0% Reading ImmersiveAnimatedLooting V?.? ... ChAnims:13 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... ChAnims:344 CTD:2,2% pOpt:0,6% Reading NCK30 V1.0 ... ChAnims:322 CTD:2,0% pOpt:0,5% Reading P1FlyingRing V?.? ... ChAnims:39 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% NOTE: P1FlyingRing uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading SexLab V1.62 ... ChAnims:1025 CTD:6,5% pOpt:1,7% Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ... ChAnims:5 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... ChAnims:178 CTD:1,2% pOpt:0,3% Reading XPMSE V7.2 ... ChAnims:164(164) CTD:2,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ... ChAnims:1669 CTD:7,9% pOpt:0,1% Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ... ChAnims:42 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... No GENDER directory male 87 GENDER modifications for Animations\female Alternate Animation mods: 1 sets: 16 total groups: 30 added file slots: 170 alternate files: 164 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... Reading BaboMotionData V?.? ... Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoidsLarge V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading BaboHorribleHarassmentCreature V1.0 ... 10208 animations for 34 mods successfully included (character) ChAnims: 10208 CTD:63,8% pOpt:14,1% max: 15993 LC: 16699 (max. 26162) 4379 animations for 11 mods and 43 creatures successfully included. 0 possible consistence issues The causes of CTDs, are many. One should be able to understand when it occurs. Specific location ? Specific animation ? Specific equipment ? Is the body naked or dressed? HDTPhysicExtensions+ HDT-SMP? Virtual parts? Mod without all requirements? Take a look at the guide pointed out by @Grey Cloud . Also try deleting some mods 1
Kastagir Posted July 18, 2024 Posted July 18, 2024 (edited) On 7/17/2024 at 3:05 AM, Mad_Monty said: So, am I right in understanding that the CTD percentage is the chance I'll have at crashing during any animation? I'm also guessing that my CTD percentage is really high, compared to what is normal. If you have the FNIS XXL patch the number of animations can be greatly extended and you can pretty much ignore the CTD percentage. If you cross the limit, however, the game will crash on launch. Crashing during animations is not related to the limit, it is caused by an animation event calling scripts that are broken or incompatible with other mods. Once again, to be absolutely clear: if you have too many animations your game will crash on launch, either at the main menu or before it even loads the menu. Any other animation-related crashes are not related to how many animations you have installed - they are caused by a mod or its assets (mesh, animation, script). This is my FNIS output and the game doesn't crash: 28579 animations for 91 mods successfully included (character). ChAnims: 28579 CTD:170.9% pOpt:28.6% max: 16725 LC: 44704 (max. 26162) If you don't have the XXL patch or other fixes the CTD percentage becomes more binding: Animation Limit Crash Fix (Skyrim SE and LE), SSE Engine Fixes (Skyrim SE only) Since FNIS cannot know if such mod is installed, it will still warn you at the original limit. But when such tool is used, load calculation can be switched off (FNIS.ini: "LoadCTDCalculation=0") If I add the mod that expands the number of animations that SLAL can load (2000 slots for LE) my game crashes when starting or ending certain animations when sslAnimationSlots is called. So I don't use that mod. You'll have to do some testing with your installed mods. I suspect DD adds a lot of stuff you probably don't want or need so that may be a good place to start. Just make sure that you clean your save with SaveTool or Skyrim ReSaver after uninstalling scripted mods. Edited July 18, 2024 by Kastagir 1
Mad_Monty Posted July 21, 2024 Author Posted July 21, 2024 Ok, thanks for all the advice. When I get the spare time, I'll continue to try to fix my modded Skyrim.
Mad_Monty Posted July 25, 2024 Author Posted July 25, 2024 I believe I have fixed my problem. After rerunning FNIS, Loot and bodyslide to no results. I started looking at the mods that effected scenes. I removed Sexlab separate orgasms and found that the scenes ran smoother but still crashed. After that I used the advice given and changed the mods that use HDT. I swapped out ZAP 8+ for Zap 8 and now the scenes worked with females but still crashed when males are involved. From there I removed Fill her up brakka addition and found the game works fine. I'm not sure why the HDT side of my Skyrim is buggy or why those versions of mods make me crash but older versions work fine, but I'm happy that my number of crashes had dropped massively. I'd also like to thank everyone for their advice and the links posted. I have been using them and it's been really useful. 1
Dorabella Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 17 hours ago, Mad_Monty said: I'm not sure why the HDT side of my Skyrim is buggy or why those versions of mods make me crash but older versions work fine one would need to know what HDT files you had in use 1
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