Advice for which mods to use

[Soronarr]

Trying to navigate so many mods and dependencies and version compabilities is a nightmare. Especially since there might be more mods to do a thing, or they might have mutiple possible prerequisities.

 

For example - arousal. There are 3 possible mods. Which one should I use?

 

Capture/battle rape mods - again several options and I have no clue what one of them will have issues with other mods. Sexlab Defeat? Acheron? Yamate or one of the others?

 

SexLab? Ostim?

 

Which follower framework to use? (to minimize problems/bugs)

 

What about pregnancy/family mods? I see Being Female supposedly only work on old skyrim. ATM I'm trying to build a modlist around SE/AE (1.6.1070 or whatever)

 

I'm becoming lost.

Edited June 10, 2024 by Soronarr

[Grey Cloud]

Read the descriptions and then fink dead, dead hard.

Edited June 10, 2024 by Grey Cloud

[Just Don't]

3 hours ago, Soronarr said:

Trying to navigate so many mods and dependencies and version compabilities is a nightmare. Especially since there might be more mods to do a thing, or they might have mutiple possible prerequisities.

Asking for advice can only help you so much. But only you know what you want from your modded game. So you're the one who is going to read and check available mods, compare features and test which ones works the best in your game. Or not, and you won't install more mods after a while. Usually sticking to using one mod per mechanic/type (aka only one mod to start scenes with dialogues, or combat, or fertility, or devices, etc.) is a good start, and version compatibility is only a concern if the mods contain DLL files. And requirements are easy, just install whatever a mod calls a requirement and confirm it's the correct version for your game. Very mechanical task you should get used or you really won't make it that far.

[traison]

6 hours ago, Soronarr said:

Trying to navigate so many mods and dependencies and version compabilities is a nightmare. Especially since there might be more mods to do a thing, or they might have mutiple possible prerequisities.

 

That's why some of us have been modding for a decade. Whether you're installing or creating mods, it's a passion project not unlike art. The reason why there might be several mods doing seemingly the same thing is that someone decided they wanted to sort of the same thing but in a slightly different way. I imagine we're all in pursuit of some form (partial or otherwise) of perfection. Perfection is subjective.

 

There's the fast-lane option as well. I believe the Nexus call their variant of it "Collections". The issue with that path however is that those people end up on these forums as well (16.5k views on that thread should be evidence enough), and they typically have no idea what mods they have and what they do.

 

My point is, unfortunately, that "learn to mod" is where its going to end regardless; and that includes the art aspect of it - no one here is going to be able to tell you which of Submit or Defeat you'd like better except for yourself. If however you word your question differently like "which one do you percieve as more stable" then that, while still subjective, is slightly more manageable. So:

 

7 hours ago, Soronarr said:

Capture/battle rape mods

 

Defeat. Tried and tested.

 

7 hours ago, Soronarr said:

SexLab? Ostim?

 

SexLab.

 

7 hours ago, Soronarr said:

Which follower framework to use?

 

Nether's

 

7 hours ago, Soronarr said:

What about pregnancy

 

SLIF with an SLIF compatible mod which fits your definition of how pregnancy should work in the fictional world of Skyrim.

 

And to top this off, a warning:

7 hours ago, Soronarr said:

I'm trying to build a modlist around SE/AE

 

SE/AE is not a thing. You may have purchased LE or SE, or perhaps even pre-LE but when dealing with platforms such as Steam you do not own Skyrim, especially not a particular version of Skyrim. Whatever it said on the receipt is irrelevant, they can change the version of the game at any moment (1 minute from now, tomorrow, next week or in 10 years). They can remove the game at any moment. That said, for whichever version you're building your mods, make sure you're protected from the platform on which you bought Skyrim. You may think I'm exaggerating, but you won't be a happy camper when they push out another update and brick your setup.

 

Oh and 1070 is AE.

[Visdagon]

"For example - arousal."

OSL Aroused FOMOD 2.5.1

 

"Capture/battle"

Acheron - Death Alternative

YameteKudasai - 2.1.3

 

"SexLab? Ostim?"

Both!

SexLabFrameworkAE_v166b

OStim Standalone

 

Which follower framework to use? (to minimize problems/bugs)

Im diehard AFT... but its old and its showin quirks, which is why it Was the best, because it didnt. Nether's is prob the best choice now.

 

Also:

"Defeat. Tried and tested." traison is right. But Yamete is cooler. Maybe youll have to reload a save here and there, maybe not. Worth it? 

Sound advice from peeps so far, gonna reiterate it. You can get suggestions, but you NEED to research yourself. Get ideas from us, go look at the mods, piece together your own setup. Welcome to the glorious nightmare of Skyrim modding. 

1 hour ago, traison said:

The issue with that path however is that those people end up on these forums as well

You have to research either way, theres only so much plug n play 

[Soronarr]

Thanks for your answers.

As for what I want. for the PC (and follwoers and NPC's) to be able to enslave/use defeated opponents.

 

So SexLab and Ostim can work together without issues?

 

 

Lest time I tried Yamate I found it more straightforward than Defeat (a lot of finicking, you have to mark things for it to work), but had some issued/conflict. I think it caused a bug with brawls.

But I can try again, perhaps it's less buggy now....and now I see there' 3 version of it now?

2.1.3 is based on Acheron? Redux seems standalone? I take it that SL Defeat and Acheron will conflict?

Edited June 10, 2024 by Soronarr

[Soronarr]

2 hours ago, traison said:

SLIF with an SLIF compatible mod which fits your definition of how pregnancy should work in the fictional world of Skyrim.

 

HMmm.. like Fertility? Seem some others mods like Being Female are outdated.

[JimUpdating]

I've had sexlab and ostim work together before - sexlab works better for scripted events (defeat, devious, slaverun), ostim seemed more immersive for romantic. I think there was a fork in Ostim development, so for AE you may need to be very careful which version of Ostim you get.

 

OSL aroused should work with both Ostim and Sexlab.

 

acheron/yamete can need multiple files.

 

 

[traison]

9 minutes ago, Soronarr said:

 

HMmm.. like Fertility? Seem some others mods like Being Female are outdated.

 

I have my own SLIF and it has the pregnancy stuff built into it for performace. Self-made, so I have no opinion on any of the mods available here on LL.

[Visdagon]

I went with Yamate for mid combat interaction and I think it will even do simul-multi. Yeah theres like 3 different ones, it gets confusing, What I was going for with my setup was a band of marauders rapeing and pillaging, so I wanted the setup to be able to do that all at once. Hope it works out that way, still smoothing things out, sooo many mods in the load order.

It would be easier if I was more hyper focused on what I installed. Like, do I need Hearthfire Expanded and Tel Mithryn Expanded in the load at the same time? No. Can they be? Yeah. Might as well, if I get it all in and working then I wont have to change later.

 

In other words, its easier and simpler, for right now, if you limit your load order to what you KNOW you want to use, instead of what you Might want. But this is prob obvious.

 

I think at one point they had sexlab and ostim working together via five million bridge addons. Apparently at some point there was a standalone ostim made that was easier to run alongside SL. I been gone awhile Im playin catch up. It will be way easier to only use 1 of them. And if you want sex in your violence, most of those are based around SL first, then with Ostim integration secondary, if at all. Or so it was/appears, like I said, playin catchup

Edited June 10, 2024 by Visdagon

[Soronarr]

9 hours ago, traison said:

 

I have my own SLIF and it has the pregnancy stuff built into it for performace. Self-made, so I have no opinion on any of the mods available here on LL.

 

Neat. Why not share that version?

[traison]

2 hours ago, Soronarr said:

 

Neat. Why not share that version?

 

Because its an entire ecosystem, built on a modified version of SexLab. If I release it I'd essentially be saying "what you guys did sucks, its time to switch over to my way of thinking", which I believe would be rude and unecessary.

 

Modding is art, art is subjective, I just wanted to do things differently.

[Soronarr]

HEh.. I don't consider it "art" or subjective. The mod either works well or does not. Results you want to achieve with a mod might be more of a grey area.

 

 

But anyway, back in the day when I was making my Skyrim modlist I recall some mod that required a whole bunch of modified creatures (several mods with female variants of many creatures from Nexus)... I can't seem to find it. Is my memory whack?

[Soronarr]

Another thing That often isn't clear is if some additon/patch is still valid.

 

Like SOS - you have a dll for AE download, but it seem older than the SOS. Is it included in the base SOS mod?

Is it necessary? Anything that isn't necessary or is outdated should be marked like that.

[Soronarr]

HM..Eager NPC's - is lists Sex Lab aroused as a requirement. Does it work with the other alternatives like OSL Aroused?

[Visdagon]

This is subject to I may be wrong because everything forks and has its own page and its hard for me to track it all down here.

 

SexLabFrameworkAE_v166b - latest

Schlongs_of_Skyrim_SE - v1.1.4 and SchlongsOfSkyrim_1_1_5-DLL-1_6_1170 for latest AE

ZAZ 8.0 CBBE SE Rev2 and /or ZaZ Animation Pack+ CBBE HDT V.8.0+SE2023... for cbbe

Devious Devices for SE-AE-VR and Devious Devices NG - latest.

OSL Aroused, I believe supplants any previous version, maybe read further on it

SexLab Aroused NG - sorry, so many mods I get confused 

Edited June 13, 2024 by Visdagon