Cum Addiction Begging Addon LE/SE

[jib_buttkiss]

1 hour ago, Kruggar said:

For some reason, only gold option is working, even when I put slider to 0, NPCs always ask for gold.

 

Odd. Did you update the mod from version 1.0 or install 1.1 into a new game? Is it the Survival or CumSwallowNeeds version? Is this for Starving-level begs (which are only ever gold) or for Ravenous-level begs (where the other options come up?)?

Ingame, can you enter help _CSNABA_ in the console, scroll up and check the values of the _CSNABA_Weight_xxxOutcome variables?

[Kruggar]

5 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Odd. Did you update the mod from version 1.0 or install 1.1 into a new game? Is it the Survival or CumSwallowNeeds version? Is this for Starving-level begs (which are only ever gold) or for Ravenous-level begs (where the other options come up?)?

Ingame, can you enter help _CSNABA_ in the console, scroll up and check the values of the _CSNABA_Weight_xxxOutcome variables?

 

It was a first time install of 1.1 version for cumswallowneeds. It's for Starving level begs so far, didn't reach ravenous yet. In console, it shows the gold outcome weight as 0, as I set it to 0 in MCM, but the mod still triggers the Gold outcome. I use cumswallowneeds add on 1.5.3.6.7

[MadAssassin5465]

It'd be nice if this were compatible with Ostim so its an Ostim scene that plays. I've tried the 'Sexlab to Ostim' mod but thats been quite unreliable.

[jib_buttkiss]

1 hour ago, Kruggar said:

 

It was a first time install of 1.1 version for cumswallowneeds. It's for Starving level begs so far, didn't reach ravenous yet. In console, it shows the gold outcome weight as 0, as I set it to 0 in MCM, but the mod still triggers the Gold outcome. I use cumswallowneeds add on 1.5.3.6.7

 

Starving level begs only use gold- you can limit the gold taken by either turning down the max price or hunger-based gold scalar settings.

It's only at Ravenous that NPCs start demanding other things, and the weights become relevant.

 

1 hour ago, MadAssassin5465 said:

It'd be nice if this were compatible with Ostim so its an Ostim scene that plays. I've tried the 'Sexlab to Ostim' mod but thats been quite unreliable.

 

This mod uses pretty simple Sexlab.Quickstart functions, to play animations with "Blowjob" tags. If Sexlab to OStim works at all, it should be able to handle it.

Regardless of that, I don't deal with OSim at all but it would be a very simple conversion for someone who does- the mod routes all its sex scenes through two scripts, so it's literally just two lines of code to change.

 

...that's assuming Survival or CumSwallowNeeds have OStim compatibility.

[Kruggar]

2 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Starving level begs only use gold- you can limit the gold taken by either turning down the max price or hunger-based gold scalar settings.

It's only at Ravenous that NPCs start demanding other things, and the weights become relevant.

 

 

Got it, my bad at the reading part then.

[Riot445]

Hi I'm still having trouble when I ask someone. I'll pay for there help but afterwords they take my money and just walk away.

[foreveraloneguy]

On 9/22/2024 at 9:10 AM, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Starving level begs only use gold- you can limit the gold taken by either turning down the max price or hunger-based gold scalar settings.

It's only at Ravenous that NPCs start demanding other things, and the weights become relevant.

 

 

This mod uses pretty simple Sexlab.Quickstart functions, to play animations with "Blowjob" tags. If Sexlab to OStim works at all, it should be able to handle it.

Regardless of that, I don't deal with OSim at all but it would be a very simple conversion for someone who does- the mod routes all its sex scenes through two scripts, so it's literally just two lines of code to change.

 

...that's assuming Survival or CumSwallowNeeds have OStim compatibility.

 

I'm running into something similar. When at higher hunger levels, the animation isn't starting but the actor will tell me that I just did them if I immediately approach them again.

And to make sure I understand, even though "free" is very high weight, that's only relevant at ravenous level? Otherwise, at lower levels, gold will still be demanded?

[jib_buttkiss]

On 9/24/2024 at 9:23 AM, Riot445 said:

Hi I'm still having trouble when I ask someone. I'll pay for there help but afterwords they take my money and just walk away.

9 hours ago, foreveraloneguy said:

 

I'm running into something similar. When at higher hunger levels, the animation isn't starting but the actor will tell me that I just did them if I immediately approach them again.

And to make sure I understand, even though "free" is very high weight, that's only relevant at ravenous level? Otherwise, at lower levels, gold will still be demanded?

 

Hm, I'll take a look into the animations not starting. Is this at a particular hunger level, or just randomly?

 

Yeah, that toggle only affects begging at the ravenous level. Somehow a free option for lower level begs completely skipped my mind. I'll add them in in the next version- looks like I'll need to do one to fix the scenes not playing regardless.

Edited September 26, 2024 by jib_buttkiss

[foreveraloneguy]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Hm, I'll take a look into the animations not starting. Is this at a particular hunger level, or just randomly?

 

Yeah, that toggle only affects begging at the ravenous level. Somehow a free option for lower level begs completely skipped my mind. I'll add them in in the next version- looks like I'll need to do one to fix the scenes not playing regardless.

 

It's only the highest level where the dialogue for begging is forced. The NPC says yes then nothing happens.

[jib_buttkiss]

1 hour ago, foreveraloneguy said:

 

It's only the highest level where the dialogue for begging is forced. The NPC says yes then nothing happens.

Weird... Every script to trigger sex in the mod is the same. I hate to impose, but would you know the exact line NPCs say before it doesn't work? It'd save me having to investigate every dialogue tree.

Edited September 27, 2024 by jib_buttkiss

[Riot445]

On 9/26/2024 at 7:51 PM, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Hm, I'll take a look into the animations not starting. Is this at a particular hunger level, or just randomly?

 

Yeah, that toggle only affects begging at the ravenous level. Somehow a free option for lower level begs completely skipped my mind. I'll add them in in the next version- looks like I'll need to do one to fix the scenes not playing regardless.

It seems to be ant any hunger level, as long as I approach someone and ask them, nothing will occur. I have SL P+ so that may be causing problems?

[effrenatus]

Hi! I have 2 little questions:

1. In the version for SL Survival, the main file is still called "!CumSwallowNeeds_BeggingAddon.esp", that is correct likt this, yes?
2. Is there a chance you could make this an ESL? Please? ❤️ 

[jib_buttkiss]

On 9/29/2024 at 3:20 PM, Riot445 said:

It seems to be ant any hunger level, as long as I approach someone and ask them, nothing will occur. I have SL P+ so that may be causing problems?

 

That's very odd, since it all works fine for me. Does Sexlab output any debug messages to the console? Those might help nail down the problem.

If you're using P+ it'll probably fail on anything but a straight Male-Female pairing, so there's that to consider too.

I assume other blowjobs in your game work fine?

 

6 hours ago, effrenatus said:

Hi! I have 2 little questions:

1. In the version for SL Survival, the main file is still called "!CumSwallowNeeds_BeggingAddon.esp", that is correct likt this, yes?
2. Is there a chance you could make this an ESL? Please? ❤️ 

 

1. Yes- I started the mod for CumSwallowNeeds then expanded to Survival, so the .esp name isn't great. The MCM ingame will display which version it is though.

2- I only work in LE, so I can't. Apparently it's fairly easy to do with XEdit, so you might be able to do it yourself?

[VergilDMX]

Great addon! Would be possible to add the feature to beg women for female cum as well?

[jib_buttkiss]

2 hours ago, Revanx91 said:

Great addon! Would be possible to add the feature to beg women for female cum as well?

 

Enabling Futa mode will allow you to beg women for cum- all it actually does is disable the default logic restricting the begging to men. So even if you don't have futa NPCs, it will still work.

[Riot445]

On 10/1/2024 at 6:34 PM, jib_buttkiss said:

 

That's very odd, since it all works fine for me. Does Sexlab output any debug messages to the console? Those might help nail down the problem.

If you're using P+ it'll probably fail on anything but a straight Male-Female pairing, so there's that to consider too.

I assume other blowjobs in your game work fine?

 

 

1. Yes- I started the mod for CumSwallowNeeds then expanded to Survival, so the .esp name isn't great. The MCM ingame will display which version it is though.

2- I only work in LE, so I can't. Apparently it's fairly easy to do with XEdit, so you might be able to do it yourself?

Sometimes the animation will play now, but after it ends I'll be trapped in place, like all the keys have stopped working,

[Riot445]

3 minutes ago, Riot445 said:

Sometimes the animation will play now, but after it ends I'll be trapped in place, like all the keys have stopped working,

Also no animation plays when the request does go through

 

 

Edited October 9, 2024 by Riot445

[jib_buttkiss]

On 10/9/2024 at 11:30 AM, Riot445 said:

Sometimes the animation will play now, but after it ends I'll be trapped in place, like all the keys have stopped working,

On 10/9/2024 at 11:33 AM, Riot445 said:

Also no animation plays when the request does go through

 

 

 

I.... don't know what those logs mean.

[Wut1969]

@jib_buttkiss; Could you please make the money sliders a bit more granular? My PCs are usually very poor.

[jib_buttkiss]

On 10/19/2024 at 5:41 PM, Wut1969 said:

@jib_buttkiss; Could you please make the money sliders a bit more granular? My PCs are usually very poor.

 

In what sort of ways?

I do have a version almost ready to release that adds the option to make the lower-tier begs free as well, it just needed a bit of debugging and I got distracted.

[Wut1969]

3 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

In what sort of ways?

I do have a version almost ready to release that adds the option to make the lower-tier begs free as well, it just needed a bit of debugging and I got distracted.

Spoiler

 

Well, I'd like to see the 'Maximum price' as low as 50, or maybe even 25. When it's 200, my PC most of the time won't be able to get her fix, where with 25 or 50, she'd be a Pro Vac.

 

And while I'm begging asking, I'd also like to see the outcomes having steps of 5 instead of 10.

[jib_buttkiss]

On 10/21/2024 at 4:48 AM, Wut1969 said:

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Well, I'd like to see the 'Maximum price' as low as 50, or maybe even 25. When it's 200, my PC most of the time won't be able to get her fix, where with 25 or 50, she'd be a Pro Vac.

 

And while I'm begging asking, I'd also like to see the outcomes having steps of 5 instead of 10.

 

The limits for the maximum value, that's just changing a number in the MCM script, 5 second job. Sure thing, easy.

 

The weights for the outcomes, though? No. They're staying multiples of 10. To tell you why I'd have to admit to how I implemented it and it's... not pretty.

 

 

Anyone who knows code, you've been warned...

Spoiler

The decision making script has 6 array properties, one for each outcome and one empty one. Each outcome's array is an array of 10 of the same digit for each outcome (eg, 'gold' has an array of the number 1 ten times, 'clothes' has the number 2.)

 

When the player triggers a beg, a check goes through and decides which ones are valid (as in, can the player afford them). If an outcome is valid, it's array gets appended to the empty array. Except, first, the outcome's array gets trimmed so that it has a number of values equal to that outcome's weight/10 (i.e, an outcome set to 30% gets 3 values). If an outcome is disabled, it gets 0 values and doesn't appear in the final set of potential outcomes.

 

Then, once all the outcomes have been considered, we have a big array with each outcome represented in it a number of times equal to it's weight/10. So for your settings, for example, assuming you have both sufficient gold and clothes, it would be [1 1 2 4 4 4 4 4 5 5]. This is the pool of potential outcomes that can be selected for this chat. Then, I simply take a random entry from that array, check which outcome it corresponds to, and do that one.

If the array is empty, no outcome was valid and a fallback rejection happens (it's different to the normal rejection dialogue).

Could that be done in a less insane way? Certainly. Am I going to change it? Certainly not. Suffer with me.

 

Edited October 22, 2024 by jib_buttkiss

[Wut1969]

36 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Could that be done in a less insane way? Certainly. Am I going to change it? Certainly not. Suffer with me.

 

I.. er... I guess I should be .. happy that you acknowlegde it could be done in a less insane way?

I mean, I ..

 

 

😵

 

[Raven 54]

On 10/20/2024 at 12:48 PM, Wut1969 said:

Well, I'd like to see the 'Maximum price' as low as 50, or maybe even 25. When it's 200, my PC most of the time won't be able to get her fix, where with 25 or 50, she'd be a Pro Vac.

This is why I quit using this mod, my PC is always broke and the values for loosing everything too high, only feasible if you use CC to add Septims, or spend the whole game on your back. Even then to have it all taken for nothing is Absurd.

Don't get mad this is just my Opinion.    

 

EDIT: I forgot to say I appreciate the availability of such work, I am not trying to be negative, just why I am not using this.

Edited October 22, 2024 by Raven 54

[jib_buttkiss]

On 10/23/2024 at 1:17 AM, Wut1969 said:

I.. er... I guess I should be .. happy that you acknowlegde it could be done in a less insane way?

I mean, I ..

 

 

😵

 

😵 indeed

 

On 10/23/2024 at 1:22 AM, Raven 54 said:

This is why I quit using this mod, my PC is always broke and the values for loosing everything too high, only feasible if you use CC to add Septims, or spend the whole game on your back. Even then to have it all taken for nothing is Absurd.

Don't get mad this is just my Opinion.    

 

EDIT: I forgot to say I appreciate the availability of such work, I am not trying to be negative, just why I am not using this.

 

Yeah, it stems from this mod originally being pitched as a hardcore punishment mod- and now, updates are slow because Bimbos is my priority. But with the next version I'll pull the lower limit for maximum gold cost slider down even further, so you'll be able to set it so that your PC will never get charged more that 10 gold or something like that.

 

By the way, you should be able to completely disable NPCs not delivering after you pay them.