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This has become a project, and i'm going to try my hand at it. For now I'll give it the tentative and crappy ttle of SexoutStory and also make sure to note i'm terrible at sticking to things like this. If this goes well I plan to do the same for Skyrim eventually, once we have a Sexout-like base for it.

 

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My goal is simple - to try and influence the early days of Skyrim sexual mods, and coming years of New Vegas into something that is beyond just 'a mod I nstall to watch 3D boobs jiggle'. Into a deep and meaningful experiance in the game, by actually integrating the sex with the quests and stories of the game. Working relationships with NPCs into potentially sexual relationships, where when a young female PC is bribed it may not be just about the gold, and where the PC is actually helpless and more comes from it than someone trying tyo gut them.

 

I recall scenes from Fallout 2 where if you were female you could use your body to your advantage in the main story to free a captive. Yet, it wasn't that cut and dry. It only paid off half the cost, and you had usually effectively sold your virginity for 500 caps to a sleezy slaver. This was my frst experance with the grim gritty realism that was presented, and frankly I was hooked. You could also have a quick encounter with an NPC, which would swiftly lead to a shotgun wedding and a companion that I actually sought to protect and made my agme deeper.

 

It's the Game of Thrones effect to put it in more modern context. The books were always popular, but the show has been a smash hit, and it would be naive to think it is purely for the story. The grim and gritty nature of the show is the perfect example of what I see gaming could be, in its own way, and with Skyrim and Sexout I feel that we have a chance at that. I may be wrong and people may disagree, but none the less I thought I would put this fowards and see what came of it.

 

 

I'll be posting this in both the Skyrim and Fallout section, because I feel it is an important rant for both games, yet both have potentally different audiances. I feel at this point, it's unlikely to happen for Oblivion, due to its age. Here are my most recent posts that I feel are relevent.

 

The first post I made was actually about Oblivion, but I feel at this early stage in both Skyrim and to a lesser extent New Vegas's lives it is relevent to them wth Sexout and whatever comes for the snowy land.

 

I was thinking, and yes it hurt, before anyone snarks. =P

 

A few mods have shown that it's possible to tinker with the games main quests without breaking it. So sidequests would also be fair game I imagine.

 

So... how hard would it be to add 'alternate' quest paths?

 

For example the suicidal guy in the Shivering Isles. He asks you to help him die; what if there was a Lovers option? Give him a 'reason' to live, that resulted the quest stage being set to completed.

 

Or, if you were silly enough to talk to Rufio before knifing him, rather than just having the default options that send him fleeing, perhaps a hesitant response that hints you are going to let him live 'I can't do it...' and seeing your moment of weakness he rapes your PC.

 

In the Captain's Cabin that you are to kill; perhaps yet again a less than cold blooded default answer would result in him raping you, while his crew burst in. After it was over it would make killing him a challenge, and you would forfeit the bonus... aside from the mental trauma.

 

Just things that would make Lovers feel more like a core part of the game and make (role)playing a character that worked by looks and charm more than brute force and agility, well, actually work.

 

When you infiltrate into the Mythic Dawn cave perhaps you would be expected to put out. To take it further; perhaps an option to help the Argonian escape would be to act as the centerpiece of a gangbang while he snuck off, since fighting your way out may not be an option.

 

It could be as basic as a few options that don't really effect anything; to avoiding large dungeon crawls that a negotiator wouldn't survive because she put out instead. Perhaps it would acomplish nothing, with the PC just getting used, and the NPC going back on the deal. All part of the fun.

 

This was inspired by the Neverwinter Nights mod, A Dance with Rogues (and Thomthom noting he had played it), A Game of Thrones, and the translated Dark Bloodlines mod where you can give a blowjob... and find it was for nothing.

 

Sadly, i'm no scripter. I can build a simple room and tweak how any npc looks and fights, but this would be beyond me, unless it is stupidly simple. I'm an idea rat, sadly. Just another idea on a sea of ideas, which the great modders sail and occasionally reel one in when they arn't crafting their masterpeices. =)

 

And much more recently, the inspiration to even make this/these thead/s in the 'Best Game of all time!' thread...

 

A Dance With Rogues, which is amusingly a Neverwinter Nights mod. To the point its actually really damaged my enjoyment of gaming since the closest thing to it is the sexual mods for Bethesda (and New Vegas) games.

 

I liked the story of being a weakling surrounded by the strong, being the underdog, and I also liked how the story wasn't some massive world saving adventure. It was a personal quest. I found the companions all facinatng in their own ways. I have real affection for the Pia character, and the length if not depth of the romance. Its like a Bioware game with its NPCs, except it dares to tread into the adult situatons aswell.

 

It also tittilated me, and even though I don't exacly liek the part of myself, i'm a very sexually minded person. If a game doesn't have a damn amazing story, then it had best have gritty sexual elements. That effectively makes 95% of games boring for me, and I really hate that fact. It also made me love playing as a female character to the point of rarely playing males, since that mix of being just as capable as any male character... yet with a certain vulnarability... is amazing fun to play out.

 

It was the 'game' that made me realise that pretty much all R and M games - no mater how 'adult' - are actually juvanile blood and death fests rather than actually adult. ADwR has gone more 'porn-like' with the last few updates, though it always was a little far over that line with skimpy armor for the sake of skimpy armor, but resembles A Song of Fire and Ice. It doesn't shy away from the brutal and sexual realities of being a woman in a hard world, let alone a dark ages style fantasy world.

 

Your a young pretty thief. You sneak into a mans home and try to steal something. He catches you. Now, all mainstream games would give you two options for the most part. Kill him, or give him gold. He would then let you go wth the item. Now... A Dance with Rogues was different. You could do both those things, but focus was talking your way out of it, and if you failed a speech test (and sometimes if you didn't) he would demand a 'favor' from the PC.

 

In most games bandits and raiders are stuck on perma-aggression. No matter who you are, peasant or warlord, they will brainlessly attack you and try to kill you. In one amazing and notable scene early in ADwR you are instead captured, low level and with little hope of victory in combat, by the bandits instead because they recognise you arn't a threat and can think of better things to do with a young woman rather than just guttng her on sight. You have ways to escape; though none are desirable. You can flee naked but unmolested from their base with arrows flying aroudn you and wild dogs eager to kill you. You can try your luck in killing two of the thugs, and then sneaking/assassinating your way aroudn their base to recover your gear... or if you hesitate for even a second the PC will be locked in some stocks and be raped by two of the bandits, before the power of plot allows her to be freed.

 

Seriously, this gritty and sexual mod for a very old game grabbed me, and since it I have had a hard time enjoying any sort of mainstream game because I see what could be. Its not even for the thrills, because I enjoyed the challenge of trying to avoid all the sexual encounters and play a chaste character. It immersed me. It added a great deal to the module, because I was in that mindset of a vulnerable young woman with no way to protect myself except my wits.

 

It's one of the biggest failings in the Lovers series in my opinion, and one I hope that can be fixed early on with Skyrim. Perhaps in New Vegas with Sexout. We have the ability, and with Oblivion the system, to interweave that same sexuality into the very quests of these games... but for the most part its always remained almost seperated from the 'actual' game with a wall. This is the only thing, aswell as the deep companions, that I feel we lack.

 

Also relevent I feel are two posts from other people.

 

'Adult Quest Mod: Extend existing quest or make new ones?'

http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=3386

 

'Contextual Sex'

http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=3215

 

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I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment. What's tricky is finding the right combination of modding skill and 'kink' in a single person. I think overall Loogie has done a terrific job with the tryouts for example. It is, however, a particular 'kink'.

 

It may just be that, for now, the particular combination of skill + the kink you want does not exist in a single person, and it really needs to. People can collaborate of course, but if the interest isn't there to begin with, then there's no compelling reason for them to do so. No modder is going to write scripts (or spend much time on them) for a mod they aren't "in to", and the same goes for modelers, dialogue writers, and so on.

 

As for Skyrim, we're looking at January now for release of the new TESCK. That's a while before anyone is really able to mod it, which is good and bad. It's good for the creative types in a sense; they have plenty of prep time to work on quest outlines, models, textures, and so on. It's hell for the script writers like myself, but our work is easier to come up to speed on.

 

It takes a long time to become a good artist or writer, but not nearly as long to become a passable (if not great) scripter.

 

I do still plan to work on a version of SexougNG for Skyrim as soon as the CK is released. Getting it out there is going to require the support of the artists, particularly the skeleton authors and animation editors. There's nothing stopping them from getting started now, and testing by just replacing vanilla game assets, and I sincerely hope they are.

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I've always planned to learn to script, but still have yet to get around to it, nor have I found easy to understand guides. Perhaps I should try and elarn and start on this myself, as the 'base' is already there. D=

 

Edit: Heh, decided to start by trying to convince Easy Pete to part with soem dynamite with a favor, but I can't seem to add topics. Off to hunt for tutorials.

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Even though i agree with the points here. getting it out there is more difficult..

First of what we see here is only idea's not really a modder. So unless some modder steps up and say i am gonna do this this will never happend. Atashi post is great because we have already seen what he can do oblivion Other idea's are more from people who only have idea but expect others to do the hard work.

 

What we really need is people with idea but also the means of doing it them-selfs. There is hardly any post out there from modders with idea most are only no modders with idea.

 

Edit: Heh' date=' decided to start by trying to convince Easy Pete to part with soem dynamite with a favor, but I can't seem to add topics. Off to hunt for tutorials.

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If it is just easy pete. The best way to find dialog

Is left top of your screen there is box named filter. (its under Object window)

type in pete

 

And it should point you to GSEasyPete

Double click it. => click on dialogue

 

And you should have all the dialogue for EasyPete

Have fun.

 

If you want to fully create new dialog remember he is from Goodsprings

so click on quest tab then type in the filter Good

And you should see VfreeformGoodSprings This is the dialog for all npc's in good springs and in here you can create and add new dialog for easy pete.

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Yeah, I found VfreeformGoodSprings and that was why I couldn't add topics. I was trying to add it directly to his Dialog. I've made progress int hat i've added the new response and it shows up in the Dialog Tree... just not in game. Perhaps because it shows up in the list above GREETINGS since I called the topic aaEasyPeteBJ. *sigh*

 

Thanks for the help Donkey, any more tips you can ofer would be appreciated. I just wish i'd seen your post before I figured it out hehe.

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Yeah' date=' I found VfreeformGoodSprings and that was why I couldn't add topics. I was trying to add it directly to his Dialog. I've made progress int hat i've added the new response and it shows up in the Dialog Tree... just not in game. Perhaps because it shows up in the list above GREETINGS since I called the topic aaEasyPeteBJ. *sigh*

 

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You need to click on Top Level and up the priority level for it have higher rate then other dialog. Or else there is only a slight chance it will even show.

 

You must also place conditions.

Like GetIsID GSEasyPete == 1

 

If the conditions aren't set it will show on all npc you talk to.. :D You don't want that.

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Thanks, i'll keep tinkering. All this project, at its most basic, needs is for me to be able to add extra dialog choices and paste in a Sexout startscript if i'm not mistaken. So hopefully i'll get it lol.

 

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Well, i've successfully added a new option to the conversation, and then added the sexual favor. However, I can't seem to make it 'complete' the quest.

 

I copied the 'conditions from the previous part of the conversations, guessing that they kicked in if you succeeded in passing the Explosives check.

 

Uploading a Screen. Help spotting my mistake would be apreciated?

 

 

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You need to look at what the vanilla script is doing after you convince him with the speech check. It'll probably be in the quest dialogue entry for his answer, where it's going to be setting some quest var that you will also need to set.

 

Right now you're not doing anything but having sex and granting XP.

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It... works.... =O

 

Amazing lol.

 

Right, time to scrap that little bit of work and move onto actually doing this proper with expanded dialog trees and lets see if I can't get a few other little things working. I have some questions if someone could teach me? Things to make whatever I come up with work better.

 

#1: How can I get an NPC to follow me to somewhere more secluded for the encounter? And then return to their sandbox behavior? Where they are stood is often too open for it to be 'realistic'.

 

#2: How can I have a conversation stop, have an encounter, and then have the conversation continue where it left off? I don't want all scenes to have Conversation > Sex, and then nothing.

 

#3: Why with 'set Sexout.SexType to Oral' and 'player.CIOS SexoutBegin' does Sexout reckon that the sex type was Vaginal in the stats?

 

Edit:4#: Which plugin added lesbian interactions? I noted that they didn;t seem to be normally avalable, but in SS the PC could have sex with other women.

 

I'm also going to ask for anyone with ideas if they would be willing to list quests in the game they think sex would fit, how and why. I don't know New Vegas half as well as I know Fallout 3 and Oblivion. This project is going to take til the middle of the next century if I have to play the game 100% looking for places to fit things, ratehr than investigating suggestions.

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It... works.... =O

 

Amazing lol.

 

Right' date=' time to scrap that little bit of work and move onto actually doing this proper with expanded dialog trees and lets see if I can't get a few other little things working. I have some questions if someone could teach me? Things to make whatever I come up with work better.

 

#1: How can I get an NPC to follow me to somewhere more secluded for the encounter? And then return to their sandbox behavior? Where they are stood is often too open for it to be 'realistic'.

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You'll want to create a new AI package and assign it to the NPC. You can look at the tryouts which all have example packages that do just this to walk to you. The code that initiates the tryout (the scanner) is a separate piece so you don't have to worry about that; without the scanner, they will follow you forever.

 

#2: How can I have a conversation stop, have an encounter, and then have the conversation continue where it left off? I don't want all scenes to have Conversation > Sex, and then nothing.

 

Use callbacks (documented in the first post) to start a new conversation after sex is over, or give them a scripted item, cast a spell on them, etc.

 

#3: Why with 'set Sexout.SexType to Oral' and 'player.CIOS SexoutBegin' does Sexout reckon that the sex type was Vaginal in the stats?

 

It shouldn't. Is that using NG (actora/b/c) or classic (male/female) and is it the latest version? Also, you didn't set both Sexout.Sextype and one of the SexoutNG.is* vars (isOral, isVaginal, etc) did you?

 

If no to either of those, try it twice in a row to make sure. It's possible that an old sexoutNG var for vaginal was in your save. They are quest vars after all. If you set them and don't call sexoutbegin, they will stay there until something else initiates sex, persisting through saves.

 

Edit:4#: Which plugin added lesbian interactions? I noted that they didn;t seem to be normally avalable, but in SS the PC could have sex with other women.

 

Sexout does not care about the gender of the participants, this is even true of the old/classic/legacy version. Just that most modders didn't ever add any female/female actors in their scripts.

 

I'm also going to ask for anyone with ideas if they would be willing to list quests in the game they think sex would fit, how and why. I don't know New Vegas half as well as I know Fallout 3 and Oblivion. This project is going to take til the middle of the next century if I have to play the game 100% looking for places to fit things, ratehr than investigating suggestions.

 

Off the top of my head the strip passport @ mick & ralphs seems like a good one to add. Also in Novac there's that old injured ranger, I forget his name, that will teach you a hand2hand move with a speech check that could also have sex as an option.

 

If you're going to go all the way with this, you can add perk checks on top of your conditions for sex. Also you might want to take a look at the 'humping the mojave' mod for wasteland sex. It adds sex in various places either as a negotiating tactic on your part the way you're doing it, or as a reward to the player; e.g. maybe that could be the 'one favor' from the king, a night with the king! ;)

 

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I'm also going to ask for anyone with ideas if they would be willing to list quests in the game they think sex would fit' date=' how and why. I don't know New Vegas half as well as I know Fallout 3 and Oblivion. This project is going to take til the middle of the next century if I have to play the game 100% looking for places to fit things, ratehr than investigating suggestions.

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Oh good I can help here! I do'nt think there's any where the character is helpless but there's plenty with options.

 

Anywhere I Wander - An NCR trooper says his squad was captured and you rescue them from a mine. The Legion could hand over the key for sex.

 

Beyond the Beef - Rescuing a guy from the White Glove who want to eat him. Can offer to trade places with him. Helpless situation could work here.

 

Birds of a Feather - This is the one where the Van Graffs want you to bring in Cass. Can use sex to make them forget about her. Helpless situation also possible here.

 

Booted - Freeing Powder Ganger slaves from the Legion.

 

Boulder City Showdown - Hostage situation with the Khans and NCR. There's already a peaceful option but can add the sex option here.

 

Climb Ev'ry Mountain - Convince a sniper to stop kiling NCR troops. Peaceful talking option already available.

 

Come Fly With Me - You could add an option to make the guy realize he's human by stripping for him.

 

Ghost Town Gunfight - One of the first quests. When you try to get help and supplies could have a sex option there.

 

Heartache by the Number - When you ask Cass to give up her caravan it can be an option there.

 

Left My Heart - This is the one to free the people in the cage at Cottonwood Cove. I thought one of the current sex mods had an option for this. Better yet you could pull a Sucker Punch and have the character do a sexy dance to distract the Legion while the others sneak out.

 

Someone to Watch Over Me - Have to get rid of some squatters. Currently can offer caps but obviously a sex option fits here too.

 

Three-Card Bounty - Well Cook Cook is a rapist. Though that whole section is instantly hostile so I'm not sure anything can be worked in.

 

Unfriendly Persuasion - Asked to remove mercs from Jacobstown.

 

Wheel of Fortune - This is the one in Searchlight where you find radiation suits for some random guys. They try to kill you when give them the suits,could try to rape instead.

 

Well that covers main quests. I'll check others (unmarked,DLC) later.

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this sounds like the sexout bribes mod that was never finished. It's wasting away somewhere on page 2 and has some good info.

 

I just sent him a PM offering to help out and then just scratch SexoutBribes. It was put on ice while I was waiting for callbacks since it looked rather silly to just end it there.

 

But if this project gets going and just have the bribes functions in there it would be for the best!

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In that case Bromm, would you like to work together on this? Combine bribes and this? I had actually forgotten your mod was there, and apologise if I seem to be trying to take your idea.

 

They are effectively the same thing of course, yet my idea is also generally adding extra choices and sexual consequences to existing ones.

 

Thank you Phelps and Prideslayer both. =D

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In that case Bromm' date=' would you like to work together on this? Combine bribes and this? I had actually forgotten your mod was there, and apologise if I seem to be trying to take your idea.

 

They are effectively the same thing of course, yet my idea is also generally adding extra choices and sexual consequences to existing ones.

 

Thank you Phelps and Prideslayer both. =D

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Bribes barely got started when the lack of callbacks started bugging me too much to continue it, and then I was gone for a while so no problem.

 

I'll be happy to work with you on this. I'll pm you my email and we can send the plugin to each other as we progress. This will still mainly be your plugin, I'll just be helping out.

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Sounds to me like he wants to do more than just bribes. Wrong answer = rape. Van Graff example,outnumbered so less likely to be able to fight out of it and have to sneak out. Maybe she starts out as a virgin and after a certian number the chances of it actually working go down because she won't be as good. Maybe talk her way out of a rape situation by saying she's saving herself for marriage,if she's actually a virgin it has a better chance of working,if not then it'd be based on speech skill or charisma rating. Previous example of it only paying half the cost or even if it does work something bad happens anyway like getting drugged and raped. That sort of thing.

 

Unmarked sidequests things could be applied to...

 

A Pair of Dead Desperados - You find a couple of people that want to rob banks. You can convince them to not do it or encourage them.

 

A Team of Moronic Mercenaries - NCR deserters that you choose what to do with.

 

Barton the Fink - Sends you to look for his non-exsistant girlfriend. Is hostile on the way down.

 

Bounty Killer - Have to get Motor Runner's helmet.

 

Defacing the Humble Stone - If you aim at the stone the guy gets angry.

 

Flogging a Dead Corpse - A guy has something to show you in an alleyway. This one writes itself.

 

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger - Implant quest. Pay with sex or maybe wake up with bigger or small breasts that you didn't want. I'd also assume the character is put out during implant installation so there's that too.

 

I Love Bananas - People locked in a cell you need to free.

 

Poor Meat Never Makes Good Soup - Have to get meat for the chef in Camp Mcarran. "Sure right back here sweetie..." "=o That's not the meat I wanted!" Again,writes itself.

 

Papers, Please - Mick & Ralph quest for phony passports.

 

Saving (or Savaging) Sergeant Teddy - Get a bear for a girl by fighting dogs in the arena.

 

Silus Treatment - Interrorgating a Legion spy for NCR. Lap dance instead?

 

Doesn't look like there's much for Dead Money.

Honest Hearts and Old World Blues are full of obvious things.

Haven't played through Lonsome Road yet so I'm avoiding that.

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I'm also going to ask for anyone with ideas if they would be willing to list quests in the game they think sex would fit' date=' how and why. I don't know New Vegas half as well as I know Fallout 3 and Oblivion. This project is going to take til the middle of the next century if I have to play the game 100% looking for places to fit things, ratehr than investigating suggestions.

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Oh good I can help here! I do'nt think there's any where the character is helpless but there's plenty with options.

 

Anywhere I Wander - An NCR trooper says his squad was captured and you rescue them from a mine. The Legion could hand over the key for sex.

 

Beyond the Beef - Rescuing a guy from the White Glove who want to eat him. Can offer to trade places with him. Helpless situation could work here.

 

Birds of a Feather - This is the one where the Van Graffs want you to bring in Cass. Can use sex to make them forget about her. Helpless situation also possible here.

 

Booted - Freeing Powder Ganger slaves from the Legion.

 

Boulder City Showdown - Hostage situation with the Khans and NCR. There's already a peaceful option but can add the sex option here.

 

Climb Ev'ry Mountain - Convince a sniper to stop kiling NCR troops. Peaceful talking option already available.

 

Come Fly With Me - You could add an option to make the guy realize he's human by stripping for him.

 

Ghost Town Gunfight - One of the first quests. When you try to get help and supplies could have a sex option there.

 

Heartache by the Number - When you ask Cass to give up her caravan it can be an option there.

 

Left My Heart - This is the one to free the people in the cage at Cottonwood Cove. I thought one of the current sex mods had an option for this. Better yet you could pull a Sucker Punch and have the character do a sexy dance to distract the Legion while the others sneak out.

 

Someone to Watch Over Me - Have to get rid of some squatters. Currently can offer caps but obviously a sex option fits here too.

 

Three-Card Bounty - Well Cook Cook is a rapist. Though that whole section is instantly hostile so I'm not sure anything can be worked in.

 

Unfriendly Persuasion - Asked to remove mercs from Jacobstown.

 

Wheel of Fortune - This is the one in Searchlight where you find radiation suits for some random guys. They try to kill you when give them the suits,could try to rape instead.

 

Well that covers main quests. I'll check others (unmarked,DLC) later.

 

I believe there's also a quest with a mother asking you to investigate her daughter. This Daughter has been hanging out with some BAAAD people who wants to use her to steal her parents money then use her/sell her as a slave.

You can Add an option to sex up the Person on giving up on the plan or to use you instead. If you complete the quest you can get a sex reward from the mother and possibly the daughter. No the daughter isn't a kid, shes a grown woman, so no pedoness.

 

 

 

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I'm also going to ask for anyone with ideas if they would be willing to list quests in the game they think sex would fit' date=' how and why. I don't know New Vegas half as well as I know Fallout 3 and Oblivion. This project is going to take til the middle of the next century if I have to play the game 100% looking for places to fit things, ratehr than investigating suggestions.

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You can try looking at the wiki:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_quests

 

You'd have to do some reading but I'm sure it will be fine.

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Thank you for all the sources.

 

I appreciate that link Kuroshu, but I have no intention of turning this into 'work'. :P I'm doing it because its something I want to see done, because I want to have some small traning to do it in Skyrim, and because its 'fun'.

 

If I was going to start scanning wiki's then that could quickly turn dry. Also, webpage entiries are often too shallow to explain a quest properly. I, or others here, might see an oppertunity that the wiki doesn't hint at.

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Any help would be appreciated, but it might not be worth your time. I'm still pretty sure that with how well many people here know the game, even if I don't, the suggestions will come in faster than I can add them. Hell, lol, they already are since i'll be learning as I go along.

 

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Please tell me this isn't dead. Daguy and Bromm are still going strong right?

Seriously, if I could choose one sexout plugin to ever be completed, hell, even just one F:NV mod to ever be done, it would be this one.

This is the sort of sex mod that is never made, and that really needs to change.

 

 

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