SurpriseFatty Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 This mod is sensational. However, I have an issue with the nips *the nips* Spoiler It doesn't seem anyone else is having this issue in the post forums that I can find. Even among fellow Obody users. The nips physics is different and drags along the rest of the titty and screws it up. Scanning my mod list I cant think of what could be causing this. Needless to say it kinda ruins the effect. Mod list, not for the faint of heart. Feel free to give any feedback on this, I don't really pay that much attention to it tbh. I use the built-in LOOT that MO2 has and I move around XP32 and vampire eyes fix manually. Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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traison Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 9 minutes ago, SurpriseFatty said: The nips physics is different and drags along the rest of the titty and screws it up. If its not moving at all then someone forgot to add physics for that bone. If its moving slowly then the damping values are far too high, or the stiffness is far too low.
SurpriseFatty Posted February 13, 2024 Author Posted February 13, 2024 (edited) It doesn't seem like anyone else has this issue. This is what the body looks like in BS. I can see the nips have a gray part on them but idk what that means. It must have something to do with it. *le body* Spoiler I should also say, It seems I have diaper butt too. The butt doesnt look right. *le butt* Spoiler Edited February 13, 2024 by SurpriseFatty
traison Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 That grey part is the SMP collision mesh z-fighting with the body mesh. Not related to this issue. If you're sure the base mod is fine then: You have another mod applying another physics preset to the nip bone. You have another physics system also affecting the nip bone, like CBPC and SMP fighting eachother. So: Open the body in Outfit Studio. Locate the nip bone that's not behaving. Search through all your CBPC/SMP files for that bone name. Inspect all results, or remove everything that doesn't originate from the body mesh mod.
SurpriseFatty Posted February 13, 2024 Author Posted February 13, 2024 I selected full smp in the 3ba fomod. Should I try turning off CBPC?
traison Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 12 minutes ago, SurpriseFatty said: Should I try turning off CBPC? That would be one way to make sure the systems aren't at least fighting eachother, sure.
SurpriseFatty Posted February 13, 2024 Author Posted February 13, 2024 That fixed the nipple issue. The body overall has more fluid motion but it's more of an underwater type movement and not really gravity effected. The butt has appealing natural motion but it also is kinda chunky like kim kardashians, The vag is also acting weird. I'd have to see a better example of a "working as intended" version. This has potential but maybe its just not there yet. I always see you out here helpin people out. You're one of the best folks here, Thank you!
Canaduh Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 I am late to this party, but just an FYI, it says on the 92BBB DL page explicitly to ONLY USE SMP, no other physics
traison Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 5 hours ago, Canaduh said: it says on the 92BBB DL page explicitly to ONLY USE SMP, no other physics That would be to avoid situations like this. The author knows people will already have remnants and artifacts from other mods that will overlap with their physics preset. I find that a lot of physics related issues that get posted here are simply the result of people not knowing which system is managing which bone. The author of this thread for instance probably has a CBPC physics preset that they downloaded, and forgot to remove. I find that even when using SMP only, you can create situations like this for yourself. The results I've seen from having overlapping SMP presets (presets that affect the same nodes) have been inconsistent - sometimes its sluggish motion, sometimes its amplified motion. This brings us to the next question... 5 hours ago, SurpriseFatty said: it's more of an underwater type movement If you suspect this is not what its supposed to be then it may be time to clean out your physics setup - start over in that regard. Doing it with SMP is perhaps easier said than done however as its presets could be literally anywhere.
SurpriseFatty Posted February 13, 2024 Author Posted February 13, 2024 I have CBPC because mods such as IED have it as requirements and frankly I don't understand the difference between all the acronym physics mods. I don't know what CBPC really does or how it overlaps or interferes with SMP. While I have you here, is there a way I can disable my belly physics entirely?
traison Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 (edited) 15 hours ago, SurpriseFatty said: is there a way I can disable my belly physics entirely? You mean this? 15 hours ago, SurpriseFatty said: I don't understand the difference between all the acronym physics mods. SMP or Skinned Mesh Physics, sometimes incorrectly labeled "HDT" which is the acronym for the original author, is a system that implements Bullet (engine) physics. It provides generic constraints like springs, and can automatically attach collision spheres to a mesh at every vertex or polygon. SMP physics and collisions are more demanding but especially collisions can be easier to set up and may provide a more shape-accurate result. CBPC which comes from CBP with Collisions first started in Fallout 4 under a different author I believe, is a simpler physics setup (most likely self-made) that's generally faster to run. It does not build collisions shapes automatically, thus requiring quite tedious work in NifSkope to eyeball where the collision shapes should be. Both of them interact with nodes (bones), thus they can conflict. Both of them do collisions. Since I have a hybrid setup myself, the way I did it was have CBPC manage everything body related, and have SMP do hair and cloth physics only. This I feel leverages the strengths of both systems, but I obviously also have to be vigilant with every mod I install to make sure some random gloves do not come with an SMP physics preset that affect the boobs as that would step on CBPC's territory. Edited February 14, 2024 by traison
Collabo7 Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 Same issue, I have Obody, KS hairdo SMP and 92 BBB but the nipples are just dead wrong....I am wondering what I am doing wrong.
belegost Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 (edited) On 2/13/2024 at 1:21 AM, SurpriseFatty said: Mod list, not for the faint of heart. I see nothing shocking here. Not a single bestiality, slavery, bondage and domination or rape and misogyny mod. If anything, that list is pretty tame and unusual for the standards of this community. Edited April 9, 2024 by belegost 1
traison Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 5 hours ago, Collabo7 said: I am wondering what I am doing wrong. I am wondering what you've already tried to do to correct your wrongs. This thread has some ideas for example.
Collabo7 Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 I found the solution, it's NPC fake SMP armors from 3BA that keep being applied for some reason, delete this folder D:\Modding\mods\CBBE 3BA\meshes\Armor\Mu3B and everything should be fine. The author should release a hotfix but in the meantime it's the best we have 1
Johny Brown Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 2/13/2024 at 12:21 AM, SurpriseFatty said: This mod is sensational. However, I have an issue with the nips *the nips* Hide contents It doesn't seem anyone else is having this issue in the post forums that I can find. Even among fellow Obody users. The nips physics is different and drags along the rest of the titty and screws it up. Scanning my mod list I cant think of what could be causing this. Needless to say it kinda ruins the effect. Mod list, not for the faint of heart. Feel free to give any feedback on this, I don't really pay that much attention to it tbh. I use the built-in LOOT that MO2 has and I move around XP32 and vampire eyes fix manually. Reveal hidden contents # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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SurpriseFatty Posted June 2, 2024 Author Posted June 2, 2024 (edited) On 5/31/2024 at 2:12 PM, Johny Brown said: hi can you please share the race menu preset in that image? It's my personal preset. I can send in pm if you want. I have 3 versions one with short hair, long hair, and a ponytail. Long hair is the one used in the photo you're referring to. If you want I can just tell you which hairstyles they are from which mods. I also use succubus race with the tiny horns, I also have succubus versions with each hair style but the 92BBB doesn't work with custom human races it seems. The bodyslide preset is also custom and just like the face is VERY old. Like this first female preset I ever made type of old. Edited June 2, 2024 by SurpriseFatty
Johny Brown Posted June 11, 2024 Posted June 11, 2024 On 6/3/2024 at 12:22 AM, SurpriseFatty said: It's my personal preset. I can send in pm if you want. I have 3 versions one with short hair, long hair, and a ponytail. Long hair is the one used in the photo you're referring to. If you want I can just tell you which hairstyles they are from which mods. I also use succubus race with the tiny horns, I also have succubus versions with each hair style but the 92BBB doesn't work with custom human races it seems. The bodyslide preset is also custom and just like the face is VERY old. Like this first female preset I ever made type of old. Hi i have sent you PM, please have a look when possible Thank You
SurpriseFatty Posted June 14, 2024 Author Posted June 14, 2024 On 6/11/2024 at 8:39 AM, Johny Brown said: Hi i have sent you PM, please have a look when possible Thank You My skyrim randomly started to update when I launched it through MO2 and I was able to stop it and redownload the files for 1.6.640 and ever since then my game won't launch at all. I honestly feel like I've had this issue before but I can't seem to fix it this time. MO2 was reporting missing masters for the free CC mods. I was able to get it all back but still won't launch. Very frustrating when they want to update this old game to make changes nobody gives a shit about and all it does is brick everyones mod setups. Great company.
traison Posted June 15, 2024 Posted June 15, 2024 (edited) 9 hours ago, SurpriseFatty said: My skyrim randomly started to update when I launched it through MO2 and I was able to stop it and redownload the files for 1.6.640 and ever since then my game won't launch at all. I honestly feel like I've had this issue before but I can't seem to fix it this time. MO2 was reporting missing masters for the free CC mods. I was able to get it all back but still won't launch. Very frustrating when they want to update this old game to make changes nobody gives a shit about and all it does is brick everyones mod setups. Great company. Actually this issue stems more from the mentality of your average gamer. Back when games were still made to be fun, it was a constant problem for players to manage their game versions. Most had no knowledge of computers, thus installing an update was totally out of the question. We came from a world where you had to know (DOS), to a world where you could use without knowing (Windows), and so began the issues. Its unfortunate that I have yet to see a company figure out the extremely simple solution to all of this: The "I take responsibility" checkbox. Windows 10/11 for instance, could have saved much of its reputation by including this checkbox in the installer. This checkbox would have, for example, enabled full control over Windows Updates, like we had in Windows 7. For Steam this checkbox would have unlocked a dialog where you can pick and choose which version of a game to install (or whether or not to install at all). With this checkbox checked, the EULA would clearly state any problem you face is your own problem and thus the software company is practically freed of responsibility to do anything about it - and this would be fine by me, or at least certainly better than what we have now. </old_person_shouts_at_clouds> So, on to something more helpful perhaps: I assume you've done what most people do trying to keep Steam out of their Skyrim shenanigans: read-only locked the acf file? This is not sufficient. This used to be enough, up until a couple of years ago or so. You need to do far more than this to avoid damage now. Edited June 15, 2024 by traison
SurpriseFatty Posted June 15, 2024 Author Posted June 15, 2024 12 hours ago, traison said: Actually this issue stems more from the mentality of your average gamer. Back when games were still made to be fun, it was a constant problem for players to manage their game versions. Most had no knowledge of computers, thus installing an update was totally out of the question. We came from a world where you had to know (DOS), to a world where you could use without knowing (Windows), and so began the issues. Its unfortunate that I have yet to see a company figure out the extremely simple solution to all of this: The "I take responsibility" checkbox. Windows 10/11 for instance, could have saved much of its reputation by including this checkbox in the installer. This checkbox would have, for example, enabled full control over Windows Updates, like we had in Windows 7. For Steam this checkbox would have unlocked a dialog where you can pick and choose which version of a game to install (or whether or not to install at all). With this checkbox checked, the EULA would clearly state any problem you face is your own problem and thus the software company is practically freed of responsibility to do anything about it - and this would be fine by me, or at least certainly better than what we have now. </old_person_shouts_at_clouds> So, on to something more helpful perhaps: I assume you've done what most people do trying to keep Steam out of their Skyrim shenanigans: read-only locked the acf file? This is not sufficient. This used to be enough, up until a couple of years ago or so. You need to do far more than this to avoid damage now. I'm not sure what you mean by the "acf file" I have never heard of this. I just have steam set to only update skyrim when I launch it and I only launch it through SKSE via MO2. I feel you on the old computer updates thing. I feel like there's two types of people, people who see the windows update available on their power down button and think "oh great my pc will run even better now" and others that see that and think "jesus christ what's going to stop working now". I need to make two MO2 profiles anyway I just have 900 mods in my list and it just seems so daunting at this point. I want to have a profile for actually playing and a profile for testing stuff. I haven't even really used the MO2 profiles features. I don't know anything other than very basic load order stuff, nemesis, BS, I don't know anything about "bashed patches" shit I dont even want to touch DAR. All my characters sprint as if they're holding a greatsword. I have never been able to successfully create LODs with DynDoLOD either. This current issue just stumps me although I feel like I've had it half a dozen times it just seems to be manifesting the same but the old solutions don't work.
Grey Cloud Posted June 16, 2024 Posted June 16, 2024 14 hours ago, SurpriseFatty said: I just have 900 mods in my list and it just seems so daunting at this point If you mean 900 mods in your game then that could well be causing problems. There are limits.
SurpriseFatty Posted June 16, 2024 Author Posted June 16, 2024 (edited) 12 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: If you mean 900 mods in your game then that could well be causing problems. There are limits. I hadn't added any mods since it decided to stop loading and turning mods off doesn't make it work but idk. Edited June 16, 2024 by SurpriseFatty
Visdagon Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 On 6/15/2024 at 3:29 PM, SurpriseFatty said: I'm not sure what you mean by the "acf file" I have never heard of this. I just have steam set to only update skyrim when I launch it and I only launch it through SKSE via MO2. I feel you on the old computer updates thing. I feel like there's two types of people, people who see the windows update available on their power down button and think "oh great my pc will run even better now" and others that see that and think "jesus christ what's going to stop working now". I need to make two MO2 profiles anyway I just have 900 mods in my list and it just seems so daunting at this point. I want to have a profile for actually playing and a profile for testing stuff. I haven't even really used the MO2 profiles features. I don't know anything other than very basic load order stuff, nemesis, BS, I don't know anything about "bashed patches" shit I dont even want to touch DAR. All my characters sprint as if they're holding a greatsword. I have never been able to successfully create LODs with DynDoLOD either. This current issue just stumps me although I feel like I've had it half a dozen times it just seems to be manifesting the same but the old solutions don't work. Use Open Animation Replacer not Dynamic Animation Replacer. DynDoLOD - GamerPoets and Gopher vids on YouTube. Many are outdated now, still can give insight if not the play by play they were intended to be. Your issue with it could be a simple as mod load order.
SurpriseFatty Posted June 18, 2024 Author Posted June 18, 2024 On 6/16/2024 at 8:13 PM, Visdagon said: Use Open Animation Replacer not Dynamic Animation Replacer. DynDoLOD - GamerPoets and Gopher vids on YouTube. Many are outdated now, still can give insight if not the play by play they were intended to be. Your issue with it could be a simple as mod load order. I actually do have OAR my bad. I also might add the game instantly closes whether steam is started or not. Maybe its a SKSE/MO2 thing.
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