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in the end i dont think denuvo wil effect us that much when it comes to mod parity with sims, since theyre fully supporting custom animations both with single zois and multiple zois

meaning everything you need to at least have a sex mod is already available 

Posted (edited)

looking into it they did say mods against their TOS will be taken down but wouldnt be the first time a company has said this but really only take down mods from sites like nexus mods or their own mod sharing platform



so well just have to see what happens

this doesnt mean non TOS mods will be impossible just means well have to be possibly more careful with them and where theyre posted


a TOS is most likley written by a legal team and possibly not even a legal team thats full time working with krafton so it may be left up to the devs to hunt down mods in which case its really just up to them if its worth their time to enforce it

 

Edited by Omaker
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i think a very important note is this companies last game was PUBG

they dont know what its like handling the community of a singleplayer game and theyve never handled player modding outside of cheating before

id expect with the tidal wave of both adult and non adult TOS breaking mods that overall dont harm the game eventually they will calm down and open up to more moddability 


heres hoping at least

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Krafton is the publisher. Developers create the game, publishers fund the project and release. A bad publisher will meddle with the developers to influence design, but otherwise these developers of Inzoi have nothing to do with PUBG.

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16 minutes ago, VonRaschke said:

Krafton is the publisher. Developers create the game, publishers fund the project and release. A bad publisher will meddle with the developers to influence design, but otherwise these developers of Inzoi have nothing to do with PUBG.

yeah i know thats why i said company not devs

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7 hours ago, Catnatic said:

It doesn't even make the game always-online but you are required to be online first after installing the game or long after you last played the game for authentication

Nope. And you can test it right now, with the Demo. Cut the internet connection, and the game will close, and notify you that they werent able to "Authenticate your game files". It seems to be a constant checking of the game files.

 

As for modding, i hope you are right. But Denuvo is DRM software. They can absolutely pick and choose what files are allowed to be modified, and which arent. If the files that control blurring of characters private parts for example, is DRM protected, you arent gonna be able to start your game with those game files modified. That is absolutely going to restrict modding, if thats what they are going to do.

Posted (edited)

wtf, didn't they claim to release the modding tools with maya plugins and all. Now they wan't to crack down on mods. What is it than. :/

Edited by Albertros
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37 minutes ago, jokerc3 said:

Nope. And you can test it right now, with the Demo. Cut the internet connection, and the game will close, and notify you that they werent able to "Authenticate your game files". It seems to be a constant checking of the game files.

 

As for modding, i hope you are right. But Denuvo is DRM software. They can absolutely pick and choose what files are allowed to be modified, and which arent. If the files that control blurring of characters private parts for example, is DRM protected, you arent gonna be able to start your game with those game files modified. That is absolutely going to restrict modding, if thats what they are going to do.

Quite funny how you created an account today only to start shitting on inZOI and posting a load of misinformation about the entire game. Even funnier that people just started a hate train on the game mindlessly without even checking any information. Every single thing you’ve said since you joined LoversLab has been a lie. Denuvo never restricted modding, whether it be scripts or normal modding. The developers said they would take legal action against pirates and unauthorized modification of files, which is just pirates since they edit the files to be able to play it. Enough with the bullshit.

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36 minutes ago, Albertros said:

wtf, didn't they claim to release the modding tools with maya plugins and all. Now they wan't to crack down on mods. What is it than. :/

all that still makes sense with only cosmetic mods

they basically want no gameplay altering mods like adding in new game systems or removing some

but remember that this all is heavily dependent on if its really just the publisher talking for them

for all we know its all bark no bite cause the devs are too busy to waste time on modder hunting and the publisher doesnt care enough to put a separate team on it 



plenty of games have had extremely anti mod TOS but ended up not really doing much to enforce it 

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16 minutes ago, Omaker said:

all that still makes sense with only cosmetic mods

they basically want no gameplay altering mods like adding in new game systems or removing some

but remember that this all is heavily dependent on if its really just the publisher talking for them

for all we know its all bark no bite cause the devs are too busy to waste time on modder hunting and the publisher doesnt care enough to put a separate team on it 



plenty of games have had extremely anti mod TOS but ended up not really doing much to enforce it 


You won't need maya for cosmetics, more for like custom animations. I agree, likely it's more hot air than any. But I'll be carefull. Not a day 1 buy for me

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10 minutes ago, jokerc3 said:

Nope. And you can test it right now, with the Demo. Cut the internet connection, and the game will close, and notify you that they werent able to "Authenticate your game files". It seems to be a constant checking of the game files.

 

As for modding, i hope you are right. But Denuvo is DRM software. They can absolutely pick and choose what files are allowed to be modified, and which arent. If the files that control blurring of characters private parts for example, is DRM protected, you arent gonna be able to start your game with those game files modified. That is absolutely going to restrict modding, if thats what they are going to do.

I tested it. The game still allows me to play Build and CAZ modes when I pulled out the connection. I wouldn't even get this message if it immediately closes.

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I've played several Denuvo-protected games in offline mode and I could still play them just fine.

In fact, I'm literally testing out a mod for a Denuvo-protected game while having Steam offline (to not track my playtime) as we speak right now.

Though I have noticed this game forces an authentication every time I booted up the game which is not usually the case for Denuvo-protected games.

 

If a game refuses to continue if an internet drops or detects mismatched files, it'd be something else within the game that disallows offline/modded play.

Live service games are typically notorious for this because those games are reliant on connecting to servers that'd have those security checks.

Not Denuvo's servers, just servers that the game company owns or rents from a third-party service.

 

If Denuvo has something to do with it, the error message would look something like this:

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denuvo-strikes-back-ive-been-in-offline-mode-since-soc-to-v0-8bxeglig0gpb1.webp.a4c75a19d44d6d559e78ee2bc3b317cc.webp

anyone-else-getting-this-error-let-me-innnnn-v0-mek2erxldtle1.webp.a798194fe020d30a1d0d78ff73d6e2a6.webp

Posted
9 minutes ago, Albertros said:


You won't need maya for cosmetics, more for like custom animations. I agree, likely it's more hot air than any. But I'll be carefull. Not a day 1 buy for me

they put animations in the cosmetic category

the game has support for custom emotes to be imported while the game is still running even 

Posted

If it's an always online/live service game whats the point of denuvo anyway.

 

This looks ok but i'll check out reviews before picking it up.

Posted

I was going to post the same, as they posted it on their discord with a whole long post by the dev. Here is a small snippet of it

Hello,
This is Kjun, Producer & Director of inZOI.

Recently, we’ve seen growing concern around the implementation of the Denuvo anti-tamper solution in inZOI. While we wanted to respond as quickly as possible, we also felt it was important to approach the issue with care—consulting with teams from around the world to make a thoughtful and informed decision. We sincerely apologize for the delay in providing this official response.

To address the most important point: We have decided to remove Denuvo from the Early Access build of inZOI.

Posted

It's very good to hear that they are removing Denuvo from the early access. However, I notice that they said nothing about whether or not it will be packaged with the full release of the game or not. Has anyone heard definitively from the developer on that note? Granted, whatever they say it is pretty apparent that they are willing to change their minds on things for good or for ill so I suppose ultimately we will have to actually wait for the full release before we see if they do or do not. Granted, I suppose it would be pretty pointless to incorporate Denuvo at launch if pirates have had access to the game in every iteration up to full release.  

Posted
1 hour ago, Demonwise said:

Has anyone heard definitively from the developer on that note?

 

 

"We understand removing Denuvo increases the risk of the game being cracked and illegal distributed after release. At the same time, we believe it opens up a valuable opportunity: it allows InZoi to become more freely configurable—unlocking new ways for players to shape new experiences for other players. We believe enabling this freedom from the very beginning will lead to innovative and long-lasting enjoyment for the community,"

 

 

Source: https://www.thegamer.com/inzoi-studio-removes-denuvo-drm-fans-delighted/

Posted (edited)

What did I tell you people. You just had to have faith, putting DRM on Inzoi was not going to have a future for the modding community.

 

The game was going to decline on that side because the most important thing is the mods in a game and it is the reality, look at skyrim because many years have passed and it is still being played, it is because of the mods.

Edited by leproso04
Posted

That sounds like they're more open to modding.

 

If they want to change and do things then devno doesn't stop them. It only hampers the players from do so.

 

So what does this do to help players and our freedom? Probably modding and making changes to a single player game that has no effect on others

Posted
5 minutes ago, Omaker said:

todays lesson kids

you dont get anything in the gaming space without bitching first 

 

Well yeah, a child that does not cry won't get any milk. 

Posted

I am so hyped for this game, I even bit the bullet and upgraded my PC. Couldn't afford a new GPU, but upgraded my CPU, Motherboard and Memory in hopes to be able to play it. 

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