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what followers do you have? How many? What gender?

 

You have female chance set to 0%, so you will never get a female raping you.

 

If you are using a multi-follower framework (NFF, EFF, etc), the mod will never register you as having male or female followers - in order for the frameworks to work correctly, the vanilla follower engine has to register as you having 0 followers at all times.

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2 male followers

1 hour ago, IBAGadget said:

what followers do you have? How many? What gender?

 

You have female chance set to 0%, so you will never get a female raping you.

 

If you are using a multi-follower framework (NFF, EFF, etc), the mod will never register you as having male or female followers - in order for the frameworks to work correctly, the vanilla follower engine has to register as you having 0 followers at all times.

2 male followers. EFF. And I have the condition has no male followers "inverted". So if > I have followers my toon will get raped. Plus skimpy clothes with the EroticArmor registered, I get the Notification that I am vulnerable. I'll refresh EFF and maybe it will work.

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As you are using EFF, which allows multiple followers, the game will never register you as having *any* followers. As I stated, in order for multi follower mods to work, the game must think that you have 0 followers. 

 

As far as the game is concerned, you don't have any followers around to rape you.

the variable that SA is looking for in regards to followers is completely bypassed, so SA also doesn't see you as having any followers.

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Now I'm curious, I'm using EFF and one of my followers is Vilkas. He has these 2 factions image.png.571d1d4fea677828019448ad6fbf8658.png. If SA isn't looking at the CurrentFollowerFaction, what is it looking at?

I've never tried a follower only setting, so I can't speak to why my followers are sometimes involved in the gangrapes (maybe because there's a friend chance as well as a follower chance?). Certainly not as often as others. As I said, I'm curious.

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I have both a response and a question.  First my response:

 

@Sorrow_421 said they're getting the vulnerable notification, so unless they have another weight that's sufficient, SA is clearly detecting their follower, since that is a requirement for them to be detected as vulnerable.  If I had to guess, it's probably the friend and/or lover being set to 0%.  Odds are they have advanced relationship rank past that point.  Since "non-follower" is already set to 0% they might as well set Friend and Lover both to 100% as that's not going to pull in anyone other than their followers anyway.

 

Now my question.  I have 3 succubi following me around.  I am trying to configure SA so that the following always happens when my trigger weights are met:

1) ALL THREE of my succubi followers are ALWAYS included in EVERY scene.

2) No other females are EVER included in ANY scene.

3) Random males are pulled in to fill out the scene.

 

The best I have been able to make work is setting females to 0%, setting followers to 0%, then checking the box to have female followers raped aloneside the PC.  This works, but for some reason even when there are 4+ males standing around in queue doing nothing, one of my succubi will stand there and wait until the second or third round before they start a scene.  This makes the whole event take twice as long as it should.

 

Does SA have a limit on how many active scenes it will start at once?  If so, is there some way for me to increase that by 1?  If not, what other settings can I try to make this work?  Including followers in the rapists (by setting both follower and female to 100%) does not ensure they all get included, and it's immersion breaking as all hell that there's a literal orgy on screen and literal succubi are just sitting at a table drinking mead.

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1 hour ago, chuckdm said:

said they're getting the vulnerable notification, so unless they have another weight that's sufficient, SA is clearly detecting their follower, since that is a requirement for them to be detected as vulnerable.

Technically, this is 100% correct, but that also leaves it open that SA is *not* detecting the followers. Just because something is listed as a requirement for detection does not mean that it is counted in the calculation if there are sufficient other requirements to hit the threshold.

 

example:

In my game, I have the following conditions set
Nudity
Unarmed
Night

In City

In Public

In Interior

Aroused (arousal 50)

Love Sickness

Skimpy Clothes

Collared (inverted)

Covered in Cum

Thane (inverted)

Showing Bra

Showing Chest

Showing Underwear

Showing Genitals

Showing Ass

Topless

Bottomless

 

(all weights are set to 1)

Number of requirements needed: 9

 

In total, there are 19 requirements that get checked,, two of which are inverted (so count against the threshold). However, as long as there are a total of 9 or more requirements met, my DB is vulnerable to notice. 

Once the vulnerability is determined, then it has to check the set area for eligible actors, with each npc in the radius being checked against their criteria - male/female, arousal level, whether they are a guard/friend/lover/etc...

 

Fail the check in the criteria, they won't rape you even if they only fail one of the checks

Friend chance set to 0% - they won't participate even if their arousal is 100

Follower chance set to 100% - they won't participate if their arousal is below the threshold

 

 

2 hours ago, chuckdm said:

The best I have been able to make work is setting females to 0%, setting followers to 0%, then checking the box to have female followers raped aloneside the PC.  This works, but for some reason even when there are 4+ males standing around in queue doing nothing, one of my succubi will stand there and wait until the second or third round before they start a scene.  This makes the whole event take twice as long as it should.

This one is subject to the vaguaries of animation selection by SL. Sexlab will check for all available animations based on the number of actors present, as well as the chance of group animation (threesome, foursome, etc), then select the participants for the animation involving the PC. Leftover actors are then run through the same checks in order for their animations to be chosen. If there aren't enough available actors for the selected animation group, nothing happens. Your followers are 'collateral damage' so to speak, and will pickup the leftovers from what SL has selected for your PC. 

 

Your best bet is to ensure that the minimum number of rapists is 4 or more, with your group settings all set as low as possible, if not 0% (threesome/foursome/fivesome). This way should ensure that you have enough male rapists to cover your PC as well as leaving one for each follower. Followers will get left out if there aren't enough rapists, or if there is no suitable animation to select.

 

Note also that any followers that get raped count against the number of rounds that any participant will engage in - max 2 rounds and that actor is no longer eligible for participation in a scene. 

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3 hours ago, chuckdm said:

I have both a response and a question.  First my response:

 

@Sorrow_421 said they're getting the vulnerable notification, so unless they have another weight that's sufficient, SA is clearly detecting their follower, since that is a requirement for them to be detected as vulnerable.  If I had to guess, it's probably the friend and/or lover being set to 0%.  Odds are they have advanced relationship rank past that point.  Since "non-follower" is already set to 0% they might as well set Friend and Lover both to 100% as that's not going to pull in anyone other than their followers anyway.

 

Now my question.  I have 3 succubi following me around.  I am trying to configure SA so that the following always happens when my trigger weights are met:

1) ALL THREE of my succubi followers are ALWAYS included in EVERY scene.

2) No other females are EVER included in ANY scene.

3) Random males are pulled in to fill out the scene.

 

The best I have been able to make work is setting females to 0%, setting followers to 0%, then checking the box to have female followers raped aloneside the PC.  This works, but for some reason even when there are 4+ males standing around in queue doing nothing, one of my succubi will stand there and wait until the second or third round before they start a scene.  This makes the whole event take twice as long as it should.

 

Does SA have a limit on how many active scenes it will start at once?  If so, is there some way for me to increase that by 1?  If not, what other settings can I try to make this work?  Including followers in the rapists (by setting both follower and female to 100%) does not ensure they all get included, and it's immersion breaking as all hell that there's a literal orgy on screen and literal succubi are just sitting at a table drinking mead.

I'll be damned, that was it. The friend and lover part. I just thought it would bypass it if Followers 100%.

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Glad it worked out for you!

 

But yeah, per @IBAGadget's post above, you only need to fail ONE of the criteria for the scene to refuse to fire.  Those two seemed the most likely to be causing the failure.

 

Likewise I'm running into my own little failure condition.  IBAGadget was right about my issue too, I had threesome animations set to 100% and that was causing the mismatch.  Unfortunately, when I turned that down to 50%, I got a new problem.  Nothing special in the papyrus log, but console gets spammed with "no valid giver" or something like that.

 

I'm thinking this is tied to the fact that my PC is a futa and I made my own SLSB conversion that flags literally EVERY animations as a futa one, so it's trying to put my PC in the male slot and that marks the "giver" position as occupied...or something, idk.  The funny thing is I actually don't want them in the male slot every time - my PC has both genitals and I want them to be a switch.  In a two person anim, I want them to take the male slot.  In a threesome I want them to take a female slot.  I wish I could figure a way to do this.  I mean, I could reconfigure my SLSB config so that there no females in the threesome animations, which would essentially force the futa into the female role, but then none of the succubi followers have any threesome animations any more...so yeah...

 

Not asking for any help here, just venting a bit.  Anyhow, glad it worked for you.  :)

Edited by chuckdm

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