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I've been in distress lately since my art was called "Child art" and that I've only attracted minors to my DA profile. I might not improve but I don't want to care a lot about that since I'm happy with what I have. Is it wrong doing what you want to do that you can these days? I refuse to call myself bad at art but I need some guidance on it like always.

 

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You've been here for a while and your art style is always the same and it evolves. You created your own style. That's what you like, what you enjoy doing, what you share with the community.
There are always people who don't like what you do. And whether there are many or few who like your work shouldn't matter.

 

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You want Likes, you want more comments "Man that's great"?  So you change your art style so that it pleases the majority. But working, creating your art doesn't make you happy anymore. You work listless and less. Your art for the masses gets worse, and again you get fewer likes and positive comments.
But now the majority AND you don't like what you are doing. And soon you give up in frustration.

 

So what do you want to do, do what you enjoy, even if few people like it?  Or be a "like junkie" which most people are nowadays?

 

What you do is not my thing. But even if I don't like it, I see that it got better and better over time, a style of its own.
You like it, you do it, you share it.   BE HAPPY

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Yes I actually do like my own art. I might have heard all this before but repeating it makes it clearer. Why I wanted to improve too much is because the "too young ones" was looking at it while I expected older people. It's true, I need to be happy with what I have.

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Apparently I don't like my own art. Not today. Hopefully not ever since I'm tired of being a perv.

 

Gone over it already. I don't know if someone ever wants to see my art here but that's okay.

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On 4/2/2023 at 12:17 PM, NotGodOKay said:

I've been in distress lately since my art was called "Child art" and that I've only attracted minors to my DA profile. I might not improve but I don't want to care a lot about that since I'm happy with what I have. Is it wrong doing what you want to do that you can these days? I refuse to call myself bad at art but I need some guidance on it like always.

 

I don't get it. What's wrong about art for children? Some people are good at making art for children, some people are good at making art for older people, then there are people who are good at all of them, but there are also people who aren't good at any. I think that "Jacks of all trades" are good at everything, but excel in nothing. Would you like that better? Would you like to be ONLY good at everything, but excel at nothing? I think you should be grateful about whatever art style talent you may have been given and appreciate that you weren't given any other, because you can only become master at one. It doesn't matter what art style you're good at, because someone has to contribute such art style, so it may as well be you. You were the chosen one! :)

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Art is perceived to be Art by the individual viewing said Art. Come on over and visit.

 

 

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Haha, well that's part of the struggle in being an artist. As an artist evolves, one may face multiple challenges, all from within oneself.

 

Sometimes seemingly out of nowhere, sometimes in reaction to outside interactions, ideas, fears, concepts, colliding with those until then establishing your perception of your artistic self; provoking perspective re-evaluation resulting sometimes in changes to your artistry or reinforcement of your existing ways.

 

Having pondered the matter myself, a realisation washed over. A common mistake illguiding artists still exploring and expanding their skills is thinking that photorealism is the height of portrait quality (amongst other artistic pursuits.) Surely, a truly photorealistic portrait is nothing to scoff at considering the intricacy and all, though it’s not the only manner of executing a quality portrait and so a portrait of different style isn’t necessarily of lesser quality.

 

With portraits being an example, the same applies with any representation with contents or details intelligible in some way, whether comparable to RL counterparts or not.

 

The trick is remembering this mistake of setting photorealism atop the highest of artistic pedestals is also one the majority - "non artists" - makes, as I've come to learn over time peddling my makes on streetsides, in certain free-form galleries or from here at home. Understandably albeit shortsightedly, realistic visions are deemed highly, though it isn't "the" heightiest peak in Art. Intricacy impresses, eccentricity enchants. From that point you can choose whether you'll chase people's sadly too often limited ability to appreciate Art past detailed realism and create more realistically or make what really gets you pumping, regardless of the known likely resistance to it. (It's sometimes more complicated than that but you get the idea.)

 

One needn't adhere to the common view that realism should be part of their Art should it feel unnatural or unnecessary to an artist or their creations. Although one should recall also that certain styles better befit certain applications as whether a piece's appreciation is "good" or "bad" depends on how "pertinent" to the themes it is deemable by the audience. For instance, in NSFW creations, relatively realistic depiction of the essential areas in a seamless relationship with the chosen style are usually better received than tits that'd randomly look like: ( . )( . ) ; when every other detail contrasts this style. Do also note that Humans are animalistic and preferably enjoy sexuality that hints at familiarity, hence more realistic representations are better received as it is more easily computable towards arousal by the beast inside.

 

I'm generally one to advise to first and foremost look for answers from within yourself when thinking about what would improve my abilities and creations, so as to not taint my artistry with outsiders' visions, though if you would need exterior pointers I could think of a few things to make your cartoon style more "refined."

 

Whether here or in private, you need only let me know haha, I may think of a few pointers although I'm a pilgrim through Art myself.

 

(I slightly expanded the specific point from a wider text I'd written about portraits, elsewhere, some time ago. Here's the full writ, in case you can find any wisdom in it haha:)

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I would argue that it would depend on how loosely you’re willing to go regarding the style and composition.

If your question pertains moreso to whether or not it has to be photorealistic to be considered good, I’d say no.

Although a portrait should retain telltale features of the one it illustrates, no matter how loosely “picture perfect” you choose to make it, its quality, that is whether it’s good or not, rather lies in whether or not you manage to make it in the style you chose and how close you are to reaching the chosen appearance.

If you wish to depict someone in a cartoonish manner, it’s a good cartoon portrait so long as it’s in a cartoonish style. Similarly, one can argue caricatures to be good representations despite the exaggerated facial archetypes because they adhere to the selected style and accurately depict the portrayed face despite its lack of realism.

Bottom line, a portrait is as good as its closeness to the chosen style you make it in.

A common mistake illguiding artists still exploring and expanding their skills is thinking that photorealism is the height of portrait quality (amongst other artistic pursuits.) Surely, a truly photorealistic portrait is nothing to scoff at considering the intricacy and all, though it’s not the only manner of executing a quality portrait and so a portrait of different style isn’t necessarily of lesser quality.

See each style as its own lane, in each of these you can reach high standards of quality despite their varying degrees of “true-to-lifeness.” Whether or not you excel in certain styles requiring certain levels of skill to achieve the necessary levels of intricacy is irrelevant if you don’t care for said styles. A sculpter doesn’t need to learn drawing to sculpt and vice-versa, it’s just different styles, one isn’t “better” than the other.

Though some require more time to generate the experience to create well in, it in no way depreciates your creations if you align more with simpler styles. Again, different styles are subject to different critique. Photorealism intimidates artists into thinking their creations are of less worth because it indeed requires impressive skill to create and when done well it does bear a certain gravitas, but that’s the thing: different styles evoke different things.

Less visual realism allows for deepened meanings to be found in the oddities of the realism-detracting style you choose. Photorealism dictates something as it is in the real world, another style allows for inferrence and emphasis of features and ideas that may make one feel strongly in or about certain ways or things.

An unsolicited advice I’d give if you’re lost and/or looking for your artistic self is to try different styles that interest you and figure out which one you really rock with, it doesn’t have to be one you’re particularly good at, in fact you may be better at another style or even another art form or none at all, but that’s irrelevant, if you like it and would like to do it, do it.

The more you do in the prospect of learning your chosen style, the better you’ll eventually be at it. Trust the process.

Your style can be based on one or even a mix of two or more styles, and even if it’s a custom style in a grey zone between generic styles, a portrait in it will only be as good as how true it is to the style you make it in.

P.S. : This was longer than intended.

 

 

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I started selling commissions on FurAffinity even if it doesn't go that well. But I'll get someone one day.

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All creativity is destined to grow! You don't have to lose the style, you can keep it as the basis, the core. Although, I would first try to give your characters life. Although we are small movements in gif format. 🙂

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54 minutes ago, DXCinereus said:

All creativity is destined to grow! You don't have to lose the style, you can keep it as the basis, the core. Although, I would first try to give your characters life. Although we are small movements in gif format. 🙂

Yes. Tho Jebbers is a beggar.

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Sorry if I misunderstood you. English is not my native language. If you are saying that you do not have money for the necessary programs, then it is quite possible to find those that are free to use.

 

No famous car racer started his career immediately with a Formula 1 car.

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You just need a source of inspiration and then the energy will flow like from a hydrant. But the sources are different. You can find it and even create it yourself. And yes, I'm talking about sources of inspiration, not motivators. Money is a motivator and it will never give creativity a soul.

 

Although everyone, of course, should have their own personal opinion. Creativity can exist even without support, as one musician said... Although he still lied, making these words his brand.

 

You will succeed, the main thing is not to stop and not look back! 

 

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