ClearLtxNurse Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 I've been trying to play Skyrim (regular/LE) again since October, but it doesn't start, and I'm stumped at what is causing it. I have a lot of mods but I can't figure out which is causing it to crash. At first, I though it was the newest version of Zap causing the error, but installed 8.0, and it still doesn't after the Skyrim logo splash. I've re-ran Bodyslide, installed non-crash mods, re-ran FNIS, un-installed a bunch of animation mods, nothing seems to works. I tried installing one specific file from the new ZAP, and re-ran BS, and ONCE, I was able to get to the continue screen, then it crashed. I've never been able to replicate that, even though my mod load out hasn't really changed, What do I need to add here to give people a better idea. I really didn't want to ask because I know this can be annoying for folks but I'm at the point where I just un-install Skyrim and start from square 1 again.
jlttsmiley30 Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) Are you using or have tesedit install ? If not install it .......once installed run tesedit It will load all mods and game if something is wrong it stop were a normally start game would crash showing you in the list of. Loaded mods that it crash at. Edited December 23, 2022 by jlttsmiley30 1
flutie Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 post your load order, does LOOT or FNIS give any errors, does it crash after the Bethesda logo or does the menu pop up, then crash 1
t.ara Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 For best you start with more less mods. Depending on what you want to do you should step to deselect the most mods and then slowly add one by another. 1
woodsman30 Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, ClearLtxNurse said: 've been trying to play Skyrim (regular/LE) again since October, but it doesn't start, and I'm stumped at what is causing it Trying as in not able to play at all? If you and your game have been out for awhile try a fresh install of the game as the game files can get corrupted. Or at the very least check/verify your install at steam.
ClearLtxNurse Posted December 23, 2022 Author Posted December 23, 2022 48 minutes ago, woodsman30 said: Trying as in not able to play at all? If you and your game have been out for awhile try a fresh install of the game as the game files can get corrupted. Or at the very least check/verify your install at steam. Correct. I hit SKSE through Vortex, I get to the logo of Skyrim, then Crash. Today, I was actually able to get sort of past that, select new game, then it crashed. But I will try just re-installing. Thank you for your suggestion.
ClearLtxNurse Posted December 24, 2022 Author Posted December 24, 2022 1 hour ago, ClearLtxNurse said: Correct. I hit SKSE through Vortex, I get to the logo of Skyrim, then Crash. Today, I was actually able to get sort of past that, select new game, then it crashed. But I will try just re-installing. Thank you for your suggestion. I tried verifying the install and uninstalling and re-installing. I can get it to the point where I can continue/new game it loads, then crashes again. Its more than it has been, so at least there's progress. I guess.
woodsman30 Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 15 hours ago, ClearLtxNurse said: I tried verifying the install and uninstalling and re-installing. I can get it to the point where I can continue/new game it loads, then crashes again. Its more than it has been, so at least there's progress. I guess. So you have vortex good go to profiles click add skyrim profile when asked about it has its own save and mod list click both. Now you should have a profile without any mods run it see if it works with no mods if so you can add mods but be-careful only add a few at a time run the game see how it works. 1
ClearLtxNurse Posted December 25, 2022 Author Posted December 25, 2022 Thank you everyone for reaching out. I On 12/23/2022 at 4:29 PM, flutie said: post your load order, does LOOT or FNIS give any errors, does it crash after the Bethesda logo or does the menu pop up, then crash I am working on getting my FNIS thing. It does have quite a few contance errors but usually I can play the game (At least until it crashes but I am actually playing the game). This is just gets to the start menu, either it crashes on the skyrim logo, or after it loads when I hit new game. On 12/23/2022 at 5:09 PM, t.ara said: For best you start with more less mods. Depending on what you want to do you should step to deselect the most mods and then slowly add one by another. That's probably my worst habit: I have way too many mods. Someone messaged me an idea: I think it might be BUHNP that's causing the fuck up. I need to double check and remove and see. If that doesn't work. I will just make a new profile and slowly add mods till it crashes, just like when I starting out modding. Thank you for the help.
ClearLtxNurse Posted December 28, 2022 Author Posted December 28, 2022 For the person who wanted me to post my FNIS load order, here it is: Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL 12/28/2022 2:53:13 PM Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: TBBP (210 bones) male: XPMS (229 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Patch: * xp32's "PC Exclusive Animation Path" (PCEA) >>Warning: PCEA is incompatible with FNIS PCEA2<< Patch: * xp32's "Momo Acrobatic Jump" >>Warning: * xp32's "Momo Acrobatic Jump" not installed<< Installing FNIS PCEA2 Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ... ChAnims:304 CTD:1.8% pOpt:0.5% Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:355 CTD:2.8% pOpt:1.1% NOTE: Billyy_Human has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading Billyy_HumanDD V1.0 ... ChAnims:390 CTD:2.4% pOpt:0.6% Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:182 CTD:1.1% pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_HumanFurnitureInvis V1.0 ... ChAnims:292 CTD:1.8% pOpt:0.4% Reading Billyy_HumanFuta V1.0 ... ChAnims:183 CTD:1.1% pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ... ChAnims:300 CTD:1.9% pOpt:0.5% Reading DD V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:725(576) CTD:13.1% pOpt:1.0% Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:374(374) CTD:10.8% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: DD2 has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ... ChAnims:119(119) CTD:2.9% pOpt:0.0% Reading DDC V1.2 ... ChAnims:58 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.2% Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:410 CTD:2.8% pOpt:0.9% Reading FlufyFoxH V1.0 ... ChAnims:166 CTD:1.1% pOpt:0.3% Reading FNISBase V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISSexyMove V7.1 ... ChAnims:21(18) CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ... ChAnims:94 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Brainsperm1 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Brainsperm1 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Brainsperm2 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Brainsperm2 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Brainsperm3 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Brainsperm3 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Brainsperm4 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Brainsperm4 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Oden1 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Oden1 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Oden2 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Oden2 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Oden3 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Oden3 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNIS_PCEA2 V1.3 ... ChAnims:557(557) CTD:12.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ... ChAnims:180 CTD:1.1% pOpt:0.3% Reading FunnyBizFC V10.0 ... ChAnims:146 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ... ChAnims:334 CTD:2.0% pOpt:0.5% Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ... ChAnims:471 CTD:3.0% pOpt:0.8% Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ... ChAnims:156 CTD:1.0% pOpt:0.2% Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... ChAnims:45 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ... ChAnims:23 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ... ChAnims:590 CTD:3.6% pOpt:0.9% Reading fuwapose V1.0 ... ChAnims:405 CTD:1.6% pOpt:0.0% Reading GS_SLAL V1.0 ... ChAnims:12 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% NOTE: GS_SLAL has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading HAnimations V1.4.0 ... ChAnims:57 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.3% Reading Holt Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:76 CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.1% Reading KomAnim V/!\09a-APr-MoviCam0.3-Bloody/!\ ... ChAnims:85 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.2% NOTE: KomAnim has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading milkypack V1.0 ... ChAnims:280 CTD:3.4% pOpt:2.1% NOTE: milkypack has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading MKPoser V?.? ... ChAnims:162 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.0% Reading nazonootoko V1.0 ... ChAnims:43 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading nazonootokoTI V1.0 ... ChAnims:248 CTD:1.4% pOpt:0.3% Reading NibblesAnims V1.0 ... ChAnims:492 CTD:3.2% pOpt:0.9% NOTE: NibblesAnims has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading public V?.? ... ChAnims:405 CTD:1.6% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: public uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading RohZima V1.0 ... ChAnims:372 CTD:2.5% pOpt:0.7% Reading RRTheFacility V0.70 ... ChAnims:15 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading RZAA V?.? ... ChAnims:72 CTD:0.8% pOpt:0.6% Reading RZIAP V?.? ... ChAnims:243 CTD:2.8% pOpt:1.9% Reading SexLab V1.62 ... ChAnims:1025 CTD:6.5% pOpt:1.7% Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ... ChAnims:5 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... ChAnims:178 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading TropicalIsland V1.2.2 ... ChAnims:248 CTD:2.9% pOpt:1.9% Reading TropicalIslandFurniture V1.1.1 ... ChAnims:21 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading TropicalIslandSolo V1.0.0 ... ChAnims:35 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.3% Reading ZaZAnimationPack7 V7.00 ... ChAnims:1693(23) CTD:13.9% pOpt:3.2% Reading ZaZAnimationPack8 V8.00 ... ChAnims:904(17) CTD:6.1% pOpt:0.1% Reading ZaZAnimationPack9 V9.00 ... ChAnims:309(67) CTD:2.8% pOpt:0.4% NOTE: ZaZAnimationPack9 has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... 17 GENDER modifications for Animations\male 18 GENDER modifications for Animations\female 358 GENDER modifications for Animations\PCEA\male 363 GENDER modifications for Animations\PCEA\female Alternate Animation mods: 8 sets: 70 total groups: 251 added file slots: 2551 alternate files: 1751 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading FunnyBizFC V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... 14427 animations for 57 mods successfully included (character). ChAnims: 14427 CTD:119.4% pOpt:24.4% max: 12083 LC: 31237 (max. 26162) >>Warning: Too many custom animations. Your Skyrim is likely to crash (CTD, crash to desktop)<< You can increase your animation number DRASTICALLY with these tools: Animation Limit Crash Fix (Skyrim SE and LE), SSE Engine Fixes (Skyrim SE only) Since FNIS cannot know if such mod is installed, it will still warn you at the original limit. But when such tool is used, load calculation can be switched off (FNIS.ini: "LoadCTDCalculation=0") 727 animations for 4 mods and 23 creatures successfully included.. 3 Warning(s). I haven't done the new profile thing yet, sorry.
Andy14 Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, ClearLtxNurse said: FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL 12/28/2022 2:53:13 PM Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: TBBP (210 bones) male: XPMS (229 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Patch: * xp32's "PC Exclusive Animation Path" (PCEA) >>Warning: PCEA is incompatible with FNIS PCEA2<< Patch: * xp32's "Momo Acrobatic Jump" >>Warning: * xp32's "Momo Acrobatic Jump" not installed<< Installing FNIS PCEA2 Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ... ChAnims:304 CTD:1.8% pOpt:0.5% Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:355 CTD:2.8% pOpt:1.1% NOTE: Billyy_Human has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading Billyy_HumanDD V1.0 ... ChAnims:390 CTD:2.4% pOpt:0.6% Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:182 CTD:1.1% pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_HumanFurnitureInvis V1.0 ... ChAnims:292 CTD:1.8% pOpt:0.4% Reading Billyy_HumanFuta V1.0 ... ChAnims:183 CTD:1.1% pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ... ChAnims:300 CTD:1.9% pOpt:0.5% Reading DD V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:725(576) CTD:13.1% pOpt:1.0% Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:374(374) CTD:10.8% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: DD2 has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ... ChAnims:119(119) CTD:2.9% pOpt:0.0% Reading DDC V1.2 ... ChAnims:58 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.2% Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:410 CTD:2.8% pOpt:0.9% Reading FlufyFoxH V1.0 ... ChAnims:166 CTD:1.1% pOpt:0.3% Reading FNISBase V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISSexyMove V7.1 ... ChAnims:21(18) CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ... ChAnims:94 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Brainsperm1 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Brainsperm1 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Brainsperm2 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Brainsperm2 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Brainsperm3 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Brainsperm3 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Brainsperm4 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Brainsperm4 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Oden1 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Oden1 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Oden2 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Oden2 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNISSpells_Oden3 V?.? ... ChAnims:81 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: FNISSpells_Oden3 uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FNIS_PCEA2 V1.3 ... ChAnims:557(557) CTD:12.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ... ChAnims:180 CTD:1.1% pOpt:0.3% Reading FunnyBizFC V10.0 ... ChAnims:146 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ... ChAnims:334 CTD:2.0% pOpt:0.5% Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ... ChAnims:471 CTD:3.0% pOpt:0.8% Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ... ChAnims:156 CTD:1.0% pOpt:0.2% Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... ChAnims:45 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ... ChAnims:23 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ... ChAnims:590 CTD:3.6% pOpt:0.9% Reading fuwapose V1.0 ... ChAnims:405 CTD:1.6% pOpt:0.0% Reading GS_SLAL V1.0 ... ChAnims:12 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% NOTE: GS_SLAL has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading HAnimations V1.4.0 ... ChAnims:57 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.3% Reading Holt Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:76 CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.1% Reading KomAnim V/!\09a-APr-MoviCam0.3-Bloody/!\ ... ChAnims:85 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.2% NOTE: KomAnim has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading milkypack V1.0 ... ChAnims:280 CTD:3.4% pOpt:2.1% NOTE: milkypack has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading MKPoser V?.? ... ChAnims:162 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.0% Reading nazonootoko V1.0 ... ChAnims:43 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading nazonootokoTI V1.0 ... ChAnims:248 CTD:1.4% pOpt:0.3% Reading NibblesAnims V1.0 ... ChAnims:492 CTD:3.2% pOpt:0.9% NOTE: NibblesAnims has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading public V?.? ... ChAnims:405 CTD:1.6% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: public uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading RohZima V1.0 ... ChAnims:372 CTD:2.5% pOpt:0.7% Reading RRTheFacility V0.70 ... ChAnims:15 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading RZAA V?.? ... ChAnims:72 CTD:0.8% pOpt:0.6% Reading RZIAP V?.? ... ChAnims:243 CTD:2.8% pOpt:1.9% Reading SexLab V1.62 ... ChAnims:1025 CTD:6.5% pOpt:1.7% Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ... ChAnims:5 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... ChAnims:178 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading TropicalIsland V1.2.2 ... ChAnims:248 CTD:2.9% pOpt:1.9% Reading TropicalIslandFurniture V1.1.1 ... ChAnims:21 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading TropicalIslandSolo V1.0.0 ... ChAnims:35 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.3% Reading ZaZAnimationPack7 V7.00 ... ChAnims:1693(23) CTD:13.9% pOpt:3.2% Reading ZaZAnimationPack8 V8.00 ... ChAnims:904(17) CTD:6.1% pOpt:0.1% Reading ZaZAnimationPack9 V9.00 ... ChAnims:309(67) CTD:2.8% pOpt:0.4% NOTE: ZaZAnimationPack9 has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... 17 GENDER modifications for Animations\male 18 GENDER modifications for Animations\female 358 GENDER modifications for Animations\PCEA\male 363 GENDER modifications for Animations\PCEA\female Alternate Animation mods: 8 sets: 70 total groups: 251 added file slots: 2551 alternate files: 1751 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading FunnyBizFC V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... 14427 animations for 57 mods successfully included (character). ChAnims: 14427 CTD:119.4% pOpt:24.4% max: 12083 LC: 31237 (max. 26162) >>Warning: Too many custom animations. Your Skyrim is likely to crash (CTD, crash to desktop)<< You can increase your animation number DRASTICALLY with these tools: Animation Limit Crash Fix (Skyrim SE and LE), SSE Engine Fixes (Skyrim SE only) Since FNIS cannot know if such mod is installed, it will still warn you at the original limit. But when such tool is used, load calculation can be switched off (FNIS.ini: "LoadCTDCalculation=0") 727 animations for 4 mods and 23 creatures successfully included.. 3 Warning(s). You are using an obsolete skeleton. You should install XPMSE Skeleton. In addition, you are using incompatible patches/checked patches that you didn't install at all. You have too many animations. Actually, FNIS already shows you all the information you need to act correctly. You just have to read it.
ClearLtxNurse Posted December 29, 2022 Author Posted December 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Andy14 said: You are using an obsolete skeleton. You should install XPMSE Skeleton. In addition, you are using incompatible patches/checked patches that you didn't install at all. You have too many animations. Actually, FNIS already shows you all the information you need to act correctly. You just have to read it. And probably understand it too. I will try that. Thank you and apologies for my dumbness.
Neroth654 Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 Sadly, the only thing to do when that kind of scenarios happens is to desactivate your mods one by one via the mod manager your use. Also as some already told you, sorting your load order via loot helps also a lot.
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