Concept: Lovers Yin Yang

[takemetoyourz]

Hey guys!

 

I'm attempting to make a mod where you get chosen by a powerful Vampire to be the sire of a new breed of vampires. She promises power beyond your wildest dreams, as well as a harem of servants. I've been pulling apart various mods and learned how to voice characters, make quests etc

 

I'm looking for any ideas / tips to improve this both story wise and functionality wise before I really sink my teeth into this.

 

 

I realise this is extremely ambitious, but I see no point in setting the bar low.

 

 

CHAPTER ONE:

After entering what you believed to be just another one of those pesky Oblivion gates, it turns out you ported into the Realm of The Vampire Queen.  Amused by your intrusion, the Vampire Queen puts you through a trial. If you pass, power beyond your imagination shall be granted. You find out through the trails that mortals should never even see the portal, let alone be able to travel through it, and that the Vampire Queen believes your blood holds the key to turning both you and her into something far greater than mere Vampires...

 

 

CHAPTER TWO:

Vampire legend suggests that the blood of a Kramut (ancient vampiric language for angel born) mixed with blood of a powerful vampire would create a new type of vampire, far stronger than anything that angels or vampires could imagine. Of course there is a catch, being a hybrid of vampire and angel, the only way to live in this form is to properly balance the good and evil inside you. Give in to the blood lust, and lose your power. Only do good deeds, and have your body explode. The balance must be kept.

 

The Vampire Queen has studied this legend for centuries. Realising that you are have Kramut blood, she offers you a deal. The Vampire Queen has found a way to link souls together, therefore bypassing the need for balance. To test this theory, you must make a creature of pure lust feel love and a creature of pure love feel lust.

 

 

 

EVIL SIDE

A creature that only knows lust, a succubus, must fall in love with you. Not just any succubus however, it must be the Queen of the Succubi. If you are able to achieve this impossible act, you shall be proved worthy.

Long story short, you find that the only way to seduce said Queen is by seducing her daughters first. After breaking each one, your power over her kin wins her admiration and part one is completed.

 

 

GOOD SIDE

A creature that only knows love, an angel, must lust for you. This is done by saving a captive angel from under the nose of a Lieutenant of God. Why is an angel being held captive by other angels? A refusal to procreate. Even angels need to bolster their ranks occasionally, but they also believe in arranged pairings by power level. How to save her? By completely dominating her guards. Unable to let all the angelic sluts have you to themselves, her lust for you powers her up and allows her to break free, but not before she takes you in every way she can.

 

 

 

CHAPTER THREE

Once completed, the Vampire Queen has one final test. You must open your own realm in order to create a home for your new covenant. This is actually a very simple segment by comparison, and only requires you obtain your true form. (Obtaining wings) (item that creates a portal)

 

 

Once you return to the Vampire Queen, your new form takes her by surprise. Completely infatuated with you, she seduces you, having sex with your male character and becomes impregnated by him. Once she has your seed, she casts a powerful spell on you sending you into hibernation.

 

 

 

A LOT OF TIME PASSES

When you wake, your new covenant shall be populated, 400 days after conceiving. You wake, with your new harem of hybrids as well as two portals in your chambers, one back to revisit your harem of angels, the other to your harem of succubi.

 

 

 

So that's the plan.

 

 

 

 

At the moment, I am currently testing to see just how much of this functionality is possible.

 

 

Here are my roadblocks so far

1. Time scale

In a game I have, unfortunately after 285 days, my game freezes continually despite trying everything.

I have many mods installed, but if this can't work with lovers / hiyoko then there is kind of no point.

The best thing I can see to do right now is make birthrates zero while the time scale is altered, however if that much time passes and glitches the game, it kinda sucks.

I also want this to actually have time pass because if you have ever been outside and set your timescale high while looking at the sky, it is just too cool to not use in some way. I can edit it down to 100 days or whatever sure, but if there is a maximum number of days the Oblivion world can exist for before things get whacky, it is worth knowing about.

 

2. Permissions!!!

I am by no means a graphic designer. I would be using many other mods as a framework for this. I have created my own creatures before combining good bits of other mods, but I don't want to create this for the community only to have people rage. If there is enough interest for this I will make what I can, but the things that I can't (eg clothes) I will list here and ask permission to use

 

3. Compatibility

I want this to be a lovers mod. I know that makes things a fair bit harder, but I think that integrating it into the amazing framework of lovers is just the right thing to do.

 

 

 

 

 

Any tips would be much appreciated! I have been importing faces from save games, but if there are any people are desperate to see in a game, please let me know!

 

Same goes for races etc but I don't want it to get too crazy

 

 

Cheers guys

 

 

 

 

PS Sorry for the wall of text!

[Guest ThatOne]

The idea of "setting the bar low" is not getting burnt out about 10% of the way into a project. Make the first chapter, then think about the next, then the next one after that.

If you try to do everything at once, you won't get anywhere.

 

-Oblivion can hold as many days as you want. My game has currently over 2,597 days, and not a single glitch or error. The problem is, likely, a mod conflict or load order problem.

 

-Asking permission is the first thing you should do before including something. If the author says no, you can ask the community for what they think will be a suitable alternative.

Most likely, authors will say yes, though.

 

-Integrating a mod into Lovers is easier than you think.

 

I haven't actually checked the plot, but I will in a later. For now, DotA 2 TI3 game is starting.

[valsta]

This seems like a really interesting idea, I'd like to see where this is going.

However your story seems very dependant on that the PC is a male character.

 

Since you want it compatible with Lovers, I think its a safe bet that some people

will want to play as their female character, so some way of making female PC's

fit into your mod would be perferable.

 

And some people may want to run it with mods like LoversHooker or LoversGGBlackmail

that even REQUIRES a female PC.

 

[Guest ThatOne]

To be honest, the story... Will be "difficult" to execute in a convincing manner, to say the least; the AI in Oblivion is terrible, for lack of a more powerful word.

 

In chapter 1, be aware that if you use lava some people use a mod that makes it pretty much instantly kill anyone that steps into it. If you don't path-grid, or if you path-grid improperly, enemies may walk into it.

Chapter 2 involves more dialog, and I'd assume also NPCs that actually move around. That means packages and\or path-grids.

Chapter 3, I suggest a spell rather than an item. Wings usually occupy the tail or amulet slot, which a lot of players already have used up for various accessories (such as seam-concealers, circlets, amulets etc).

 

On the story part, I do like the good\evil choices. Having the story male-only may not fit everyone (me included), but if that's what you want then you should follow on it.

 

Good luck with your project.

-TO

[takemetoyourz]

Thanks for the tips guys!

 

I'm going through all my files at the moment and just making sure I can get permission to use the races / areas I want and will post as soon as I know more.

 

I'm going to get chapter one fully functioning in a single test room first before I worry about proper placement of characters, as a proof of concept

 

 

Thanks again

 

 

Oh and with the Female Character thing.... I could make the Vampire Queen able to impregnate you / have her take your dna. Is having your character go futa for a bit acceptable as someone who plays a female character?

[GreatKazooMan]

I for one prefer the futa aspect as playing a female character (don't ask me why - we don't need to get into that here), and it is an option in the base Lovers to add a penis to females when they attack a female (or male, but I don't do that either), so it'd be a definite plus, and maybe easier to implement since the base mod already has it.

[takemetoyourz]

So you as the futa or the npc as the futa? Just want to get my head around the psychology of someone who plays a female character

[Guest ThatOne]

You could account for either or both cases if you include a settings spell, variable or ini. It will take a copy+paste of a portion of the code, an additional check and, if you are up for it, some more dialog or making the dialog gender independent. It's not very difficult, and can be done after you complete the "male" side of things (I'll help you if needed, but you'll have to write the dialog).

 

As for me, I'd prefer it if the NPC will be the futa.

[takemetoyourz]

No worries thanks for the tips!

 

I hope to have a demo of sorts done by Sunday.

 

 

Thanks again

[valsta]

If you are up for it, some more dialog or making the dialog gender independent. It's not very difficult, and can be done after you complete the "male" side of things (I'll help you if needed, but you'll have to write the dialog).

 

As for me, I'd prefer it if the NPC will be the futa.

 

I think the gender independant dialog will be a huge improvement on the mod, with lots of people that have hours and hours of time invested in their character, and suddenly their gender is completly ignored.

 

I'd actually also perfer it if the NPC would be the futa, for mainly the same reason.

People that are invested in their character would probably like it that certaint NPC's

grew penises during sex, rather than your own character will sometimes be futa, and

outside the mod, be not.

[galgat]

sounds like a good idea, Like they said earlier in this post, make a section of it, playable to a point, and beta it, for testing see what people think.

 

   It is very hard for one person to finish an RPG type mod of any size all at once, and sort of un-wise, as you could wind up with so many bug's you could never work them all out.

   I hate doing it, but have found that smaller installments of your mod, allow you a better chance at controling the bugs that pop up.   I have terrible fat fingers when I mod, and I make stupid bugs in mine all the time.

 

   I mean you may not have that problem but I sure do..

 

   I did a vampire mod in Morrowind, long time ago, I made it cause I wanted to be able to transform to a Vampire, and then swap back, and change again if I wanted too. Which is something Bethesda never allow's.   I build a whole area underground for the vampires, and had a lot of fun with it.

[takemetoyourz]

Cheers man! I'm terrible at dungeon design, so I've finally found the already created mods that would be more than perfect for what I have planned. I don't want to piss anyone off by using their creations without permisson, so I am waiting on some responses before going any further with actual design. I am however creating the functionality with all of my NPCs sitting in the same dummy cell to test Lukcy I haven't implemented any fighting yet lol

 

 

Thanks for the tips though they are greatly appreciated

[gregathit]

Holler at David Brasher over at the Nexus.  I don't think it is a good idea to go into the specifics of it being a LPK mod, but just ask him if you can borrow some of his dungeons with a credit to him of course.  I would do it via PM and don't mention lovers lab either (the nexus is rather hostile towards us).  In my limited dealings with him he is a very stand up guy and likes to help others.  He does a very good job at creating from scratch unique dungeons that don't have any path grid or voids for the PC or NPC's to fall through.

[Sun Shang Xiang]

Like all the other posters before me, I also am in favor of making this mod playable by both gals and guys. I only have one suggestion: if it is possible, if playing as a gal, make Vampire King, and if playing as a guy, make Vampire Queen. As for Succubi, I would leave it as it is, because Succubi (my opinion only) don't care who they have sex with. As for Angels, well... I leave that to your judgement, but it would be, to me at least, strange for a female Angel to have sex with a gal.

And I agree: Try making chapter by chapter, not all chapters at once, because if doing like that, if you stumble onto a problem you can't solve, your enthusiasm will fade and then you will give up on this excellent mod.

[takemetoyourz]

Yeah cheers man!

 

The delay is due to me getting into a musical, (I am a performer in the real world) so the free time I was hoping to spend on making it doesn't exist (for the next month anyway)

 

 

Thanks for the interest

[abibliboop]

Sounds great. Looking forward to what you are able to done. When you have something ready to be alpha/beta tested let me know and I'll tear it up. I can also arrange a clean install with minimal mods and then find how to glitch the hell out of it if you want in order to know what mods you conflict with and what you don't (the joys of everything glitching with something more often than not).