CTD on exterior...?

[JosieLoire]

Here we go again. Sorry to bother you, I don't know why but there is something that it's making my Skyrim crash. 

 

This started to happen on top of the Shadowgreen Cavern, so out of spite and curiosity I loaded an old save file to troubleshoot. And now it crashes even outside of it. In a snowy area.

 

I've attached the Papyrus log and also got this by analyzing the dump file, but I'm not really good at reading those. Anyone can help me troubleshooting?

 

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*                        Exception Analysis                                   *
*                                                                             *
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*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for usvfs_x86.dll

KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1

    Key  : AV.Fault
    Value: Read

    Key  : Analysis.CPU.mSec
    Value: 889

    Key  : Analysis.DebugAnalysisManager
    Value: Create

    Key  : Analysis.Elapsed.mSec
    Value: 5637

    Key  : Analysis.Init.CPU.mSec
    Value: 358

    Key  : Analysis.Init.Elapsed.mSec
    Value: 16004

    Key  : Analysis.Memory.CommitPeak.Mb
    Value: 109

    Key  : Timeline.Process.Start.DeltaSec
    Value: 229

    Key  : WER.OS.Branch
    Value: vb_release

    Key  : WER.OS.Timestamp
    Value: 2019-12-06T14:06:00Z

    Key  : WER.OS.Version
    Value: 10.0.19041.1

    Key  : WER.Process.Version
    Value: 1.9.32.0


FILE_IN_CAB:  2022-08-12_19.06.44.dmp

CONTEXT:  (.ecxr)
eax=8a5e01b3 ebx=00000000 ecx=005e1d29 edx=7f763ebd esi=005e1d29 edi=39e75dcc
eip=7f763ebd esp=2a08fd68 ebp=39e75d98 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=0023  ss=002b  ds=002b  es=002b  fs=0053  gs=002b             efl=00010202
7f763ebd ??              ???
Resetting default scope

EXCEPTION_RECORD:  (.exr -1)
ExceptionAddress: 7f763ebd
   ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
  ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
   Parameter[0]: 00000000
   Parameter[1]: 7f763ebd
Attempt to read from address 7f763ebd

PROCESS_NAME:  TESV.exe

READ_ADDRESS:  7f763ebd 

FAILED_INSTRUCTION_ADDRESS: 
+0
7f763ebd ??              ???

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - L'istruzione a 0x%p ha fatto riferimento alla memoria a 0x%p. La memoria non poteva essere %s.

EXCEPTION_CODE_STR:  c0000005

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1:  00000000

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2:  7f763ebd

IP_ON_HEAP:  7f763ebd
The fault address in not in any loaded module, please check your build's rebase
log at <releasedir>\bin\build_logs\timebuild\ntrebase.log for module which may
contain the address if it were loaded.

STACK_TEXT:  
WARNING: Frame IP not in any known module. Following frames may be wrong.
2a08fd64 005df4d2     39e75d98 322d9b9c 000000b4 0x7f763ebd
2a08fd68 39e75d98     322d9b9c 000000b4 004c27e4 TESV+0x1df4d2
2a08fd6c 322d9b9c     000000b4 004c27e4 39e75d98 0x39e75d98
2a08fd70 00000000     004c27e4 39e75d98 2a08fdf4 0x322d9b9c


SYMBOL_NAME:  tesv+1df4d2

MODULE_NAME: TESV

IMAGE_NAME:  TESV.exe

STACK_COMMAND:  ~48s; .ecxr ; kb

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  BAD_INSTRUCTION_PTR_c0000005_TESV.exe!Unknown

OS_VERSION:  10.0.19041.1

BUILDLAB_STR:  vb_release

OSPLATFORM_TYPE:  x86

OSNAME:  Windows 10

IMAGE_VERSION:  1.9.32.0

FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {a665839d-ca21-c287-37ff-412a6491e27e}

Followup:     MachineOwner

 

 

Papyrus.3.log

[DaddyBearLovr]

If you are on the 32bit Legendary Edition try:

 

1. Use the 4gb patcher. (4GB Patch NTCore https://ntcore.com/?page_id=371)

 

2. Use ENBSeries: http://enbdev.com/enbseries_skyrim_v0474.zip

 

 

Edited August 13, 2022 by DaddyBearLovr

[JosieLoire]

Yeah I use a enb, RuBy enb. I tried the 4GB patch but it still crashes. Also pretty sure I've added the right amount of videomemorysize on the enblocal.ini, I followed the steps guide. You think it's a memory issue? To be fair I don't mind switching ENB as long as the game works. Even tho it's weird, people with a PC with lower specs than mine are able to run it. I have a 1660 SUPER, a Ryzen 5 3600 with 6 processors and 16gb or ram. They should be ok in theory.

[DaddyBearLovr]

Nah, if RuBy enb works for you I don't really see a reason to change.

 

Also they don't really remove CDTs fully, they just manage to reduce them. Sometimes I crash 2-4 times in a row and then on the 5th try it works for some reason.

[JosieLoire]

I tried another ENB didn't really mind trying but it still crashes after like one or two minutes of playing. It became unplayable and I don't know why. ?

[Andy14]

On 8/13/2022 at 2:25 AM, JosieLoire said:

Here we go again. Sorry to bother you, I don't know why but there is something that it's making my Skyrim crash. 

 

This started to happen on top of the Shadowgreen Cavern, so out of spite and curiosity I loaded an old save file to troubleshoot. And now it crashes even outside of it. In a snowy area.

 

I've attached the Papyrus log and also got this by analyzing the dump file, but I'm not really good at reading those. Anyone can help me troubleshooting?

 

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*                        Exception Analysis                                   *
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*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for usvfs_x86.dll

KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1

    Key  : AV.Fault
    Value: Read

    Key  : Analysis.CPU.mSec
    Value: 889

    Key  : Analysis.DebugAnalysisManager
    Value: Create

    Key  : Analysis.Elapsed.mSec
    Value: 5637

    Key  : Analysis.Init.CPU.mSec
    Value: 358

    Key  : Analysis.Init.Elapsed.mSec
    Value: 16004

    Key  : Analysis.Memory.CommitPeak.Mb
    Value: 109

    Key  : Timeline.Process.Start.DeltaSec
    Value: 229

    Key  : WER.OS.Branch
    Value: vb_release

    Key  : WER.OS.Timestamp
    Value: 2019-12-06T14:06:00Z

    Key  : WER.OS.Version
    Value: 10.0.19041.1

    Key  : WER.Process.Version
    Value: 1.9.32.0


FILE_IN_CAB:  2022-08-12_19.06.44.dmp

CONTEXT:  (.ecxr)
eax=8a5e01b3 ebx=00000000 ecx=005e1d29 edx=7f763ebd esi=005e1d29 edi=39e75dcc
eip=7f763ebd esp=2a08fd68 ebp=39e75d98 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=0023  ss=002b  ds=002b  es=002b  fs=0053  gs=002b             efl=00010202
7f763ebd ??              ???
Resetting default scope

EXCEPTION_RECORD:  (.exr -1)
ExceptionAddress: 7f763ebd
   ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
  ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
   Parameter[0]: 00000000
   Parameter[1]: 7f763ebd
Attempt to read from address 7f763ebd

PROCESS_NAME:  TESV.exe

READ_ADDRESS:  7f763ebd 

FAILED_INSTRUCTION_ADDRESS: 
+0
7f763ebd ??              ???

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - L'istruzione a 0x%p ha fatto riferimento alla memoria a 0x%p. La memoria non poteva essere %s.

EXCEPTION_CODE_STR:  c0000005

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1:  00000000

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2:  7f763ebd

IP_ON_HEAP:  7f763ebd
The fault address in not in any loaded module, please check your build's rebase
log at <releasedir>\bin\build_logs\timebuild\ntrebase.log for module which may
contain the address if it were loaded.

STACK_TEXT:  
WARNING: Frame IP not in any known module. Following frames may be wrong.
2a08fd64 005df4d2     39e75d98 322d9b9c 000000b4 0x7f763ebd
2a08fd68 39e75d98     322d9b9c 000000b4 004c27e4 TESV+0x1df4d2
2a08fd6c 322d9b9c     000000b4 004c27e4 39e75d98 0x39e75d98
2a08fd70 00000000     004c27e4 39e75d98 2a08fdf4 0x322d9b9c


SYMBOL_NAME:  tesv+1df4d2

MODULE_NAME: TESV

IMAGE_NAME:  TESV.exe

STACK_COMMAND:  ~48s; .ecxr ; kb

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  BAD_INSTRUCTION_PTR_c0000005_TESV.exe!Unknown

OS_VERSION:  10.0.19041.1

BUILDLAB_STR:  vb_release

OSPLATFORM_TYPE:  x86

OSNAME:  Windows 10

IMAGE_VERSION:  1.9.32.0

FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {a665839d-ca21-c287-37ff-412a6491e27e}

Followup:     MachineOwner

 

 

Papyrus.3.log 179.03 kB · 1 download

Your papyrus.log suggests that several mods are not installed - at least there are many scripts that are missing.
Look in the log for such entries and find out which mods they are:
Cannot open store for class "xxxxxxx", missing file?

And let LOOT check your loading order.

[JosieLoire]

They are from mods that are actually installed, like Companion Arissa, for some reason it's giving the missing file but her esm is activated. I have no idea why it crashes, I tought that maybe it was the snowy area but even when I fast travel it crashes after a couple of minutes...

 

Also of course I did the basic steps. Loot, Fnis Animations, checking everthing was in order in the INI files... I'm literally searching everywhere and I'm pretty sure at this point that it's not a mod. Otherwise the game wouldn't have worked even in the past.

Edited August 16, 2022 by JosieLoire

[jAudi5K]

I had this issue and found out it was some mesh in my architecture folder. I did this by going into the meshes folder, and finding anything that related to interior, like architecture, clutter, landscape, etc. From the meshes folder, rename the folder by adding back up, ex "BACKUP_Architecture" folder, and then launch your game. Do this with all the files that relate to exteriors. Then launch the game and see if it crashes. If it doesn't you know it's a mesh, in one of those folders. Now, go in and remove "BACKUP_" from the folders you edited one by one until you know which folder it is. Once you know what folder it is you can repeat the process for the files in that folder until you've narrowed it down to whichever meshes it was, if it is a mesh. It works for me EVERY time. Good luck. 

[Andy14]

On 8/16/2022 at 10:26 PM, JosieLoire said:

They are from mods that are actually installed, like Companion Arissa, for some reason it's giving the missing file but her esm is activated. I have no idea why it crashes, I tought that maybe it was the snowy area but even when I fast travel it crashes after a couple of minutes...

 

Also of course I did the basic steps. Loot, Fnis Animations, checking everthing was in order in the INI files... I'm literally searching everywhere and I'm pretty sure at this point that it's not a mod. Otherwise the game wouldn't have worked even in the past.

Access to script files is not always done by the mod itself, but can also be done by other mods.
So it may be that a mod no longer has these scripts due to an update, but another mod (which has not yet been updated) wants to access these missing scripts.
A CTD in the outdoor area also suggests that a mesh is corrupt or NPCs (e.g. animals) are using the wrong skeleton, etc.
My suggestion - start a new game with few mods active and then gradually activate the mods to find out which mod is responsible for it.
You can save your old save in the console: save xxx
XXX is the name of the save. This type of save is never overwritten by the game.

[JosieLoire]

Sorry for the long time it took for me to answer.

 

So, I started a new game, but with a NG it does not crash. So it's not a mesh or a mod, it's something in that savefile. The problem is that savefile should be clean, the savetool.exe does not find any issues... what am I supposed to do or try at this point? Because if I start a new game again this issue could appear again in the near future and I'd like to use that savefile.

[Wulfurkin]

Did you solve this problem? I might be facing something similar. Yesterday the game was working just fine, but today it crashes whenever i enter an exterior cell. Its also not limited to any particuliar save, older saves wont load either if they are in the exterior.

[JosieLoire]

Unfortunately not, still not solved, if I load that file it crashes if I play a new game it doesn't...

[Swe-DivX]

06. 72725 Crash Fixes - Fixes the save 65000 string error.  ?

[Wulfurkin]

5 hours ago, JosieLoire said:

Unfortunately not, still not solved, if I load that file it crashes if I play a new game it doesn't...

With me it seems to have been a game engine problem. I did download a few animation packs last week, its just weird that everything worked fine initially. Thats why i didnt think this could have been the cause. I removed the offending mod and every save is fully functional again. A bit of a shame, there were some decent animations in there, but my game wont have it, i guess its just oldrim being quirky.

[donttouchmethere]

On 10/3/2022 at 10:50 PM, Wulfurkin said:

With me it seems to have been a game engine problem. I did download a few animation packs last week, its just weird that everything worked fine initially. Thats why i didnt think this could have been the cause. I removed the offending mod and every save is fully functional again. A bit of a shame, there were some decent animations in there, but my game wont have it, i guess its just oldrim being quirky.

Or you have too many animations installed. There is a limit for FNIS animations.

Workaround here:

 

[Wulfurkin]

On 10/16/2022 at 8:45 PM, donttouchmethere said:

Or you have too many animations installed. There is a limit for FNIS animations.

Workaround here:

 

Im aware of this problem and i know this wasnt it. In case of exceeding this limit the game would never load to begin with. I could load the saves but even after removing some animation mods a large area would eventually bug out again. After taking a short break from the game i read in on the problem and i now believe some mods caused corrupted navmeshes which isnt fixable. Thanks for trying to help though, in case i do run into the animation limit ill have your suggestion to try.