TheJerkku Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) Around a third of my armor mods have this problem that for example the top part of a bikini set requires both slots 32 and 52 but the panties then require slot 52 and therefore cannot be equipped at the same time. There is a screenshot at the bottom demonstrating the issue Mod list 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm 254 FE 0 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl 254 FE 1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl 6 6 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm 7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 8 8 paradise_halls.esm 254 FE 2 Pahe_Dragonborn_fixes.esl 254 FE 3 paradise_halls_farengars_study.esl 9 9 eqRLE_CORE.esp 10 a RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm 11 b Shadow World.esm 12 c ZaZAnimationPack.esm 254 FE 4 hdtHighHeel.esm 13 d SGHairPackBase.esm 14 e Heels Sound.esm 254 FE 5 KozakowyMDPOutfit.esl 254 FE 6 TRX - SpiderWebTattoPack.esl 254 FE 7 TrueHUD.esl 15 f CreatureFramework.esm 16 10 SexLab.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 18 12 SexLabAroused.esm 19 13 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 20 14 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 21 15 Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm 254 FE 8 DyeManager.esl 254 FE 9 DyeManagerDefaults.esl 22 16 FISS.esp 23 17 Heretical Resources.esm 254 FE a iWant Widgets.esl 24 18 ApachiiHair.esm 25 19 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 254 FE b Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl 26 1a High Poly Head.esm 254 FE c SimpleVampFixesSSE.esl 27 1b Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 28 1c Amputator.esm 29 1d UndergroundBathhouse.esm 30 1e Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm 254 FE d SkyUI_SE.esp 254 FE e Particle Patch for ENB.esp 31 1f SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 32 20 Immersive Wenches.esp 33 21 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 34 22 NAT.esp 254 FE f TBD - ShadowWitch.esp 254 FE 10 BodySlotsMCM.esp 254 FE 11 [Odd] Demon Seducer.esp 254 FE 12 FNIS.esp 35 23 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 36 24 PsycheAnimationObjects.esp 37 25 SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp 38 26 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 254 FE 13 TMSG21.esp 254 FE 14 Wolfpaint_Face.esp 254 FE 15 RaceMenu.esp 39 27 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 40 28 sr_FillHerUp.esp 41 29 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp My Home Is Your Home (MHiYH 2plus) dialogue patch.esp My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp 254 FE 16 CBPC anus support.esp 254 FE 17 CBBE.esp 254 FE 18 MenuMaid2.esp 254 FE 19 AIO SE TATTOOS.esp 254 FE 1a Realistic AI Detection 3 - High Interior, High Exterior.esp 254 FE 1b SOSRaceMenu.esp 254 FE 1c AutoUseSpellTomes.esp 42 2a EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 43 2b Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 254 FE 1d RDO Updated.esp 254 FE 1e Gotobed-HearthFires-patch.esp 254 FE 1f [COCO] CaressofVenus.esp 254 FE 20 ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp 44 2c SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp 45 2d The Jedi Trees SE.esp 46 2e ELFX - Exteriors.esp 47 2f iNeed.esp 48 30 iNeed - Extended.esp 254 FE 21 ELFX Fixes.esp 49 31 JKs Skyrim.esp 50 32 Folkvangr - Grass and Landscape Overhaul.esp 51 33 paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp 52 34 HDTSextoys.esp 53 35 SimplyKnock.esp 54 36 SLSO.esp 254 FE 22 Devious Devices - Lore Patch.esp 55 37 Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp 56 38 SOS - TRX - Futanari Addon Horse.esp 57 39 SLAL_K4Anims.esp 58 3a NibblesAnimObjects.esp 59 3b Devious Sounds.esp 254 FE 23 JiangShi_Recolor.esp 254 FE 24 Kardia of Rhodes.esp 60 3c SOS - TRX - Futanari Addon.esp 254 FE 25 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 61 3d SLALAnimObj.esp 254 FE 26 TBD - NiseKardiaArmor.esp 254 FE 27 JiangShi.esp 62 3e SexLab Extra Voices.esp 63 3f SOS_Ho.esp 254 FE 28 SLTriggersCumEffects.esp 64 40 sl_triggers.esp 254 FE 29 Conditional Expressions.esp 65 41 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp 66 42 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp 254 FE 2a DeathAwaitsUsAll.esp 67 43 Nature of the Wild Lands.esp 68 44 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp 254 FE 2b Pahe_Immersive_Creature Special Edition patch.esp 69 45 High Level Enemies Redux.esp 254 FE 2c High Level Enemies Redux - Placed NPCs and Quests.esp 70 46 Bitches Be Warned.esp 71 47 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 72 48 Ambient Slaves SE.esp 73 49 SexLab-Stories.esp 254 FE 2d Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets SSE.esp 74 4a Forgotten Artifacts and Unique Items.esp 75 4b MoreNastyCritters.esp 76 4c hydra_slavegirls.esp 77 4d SexLab-Parasites.esp 78 4e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 79 4f Immersive Weapons.esp 80 50 Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul.esp 254 FE 2e Skytoxin.esp SIC - SRCEO Integration.esp 81 51 High Level Enemies.esp 82 52 DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 83 53 OBIS SE.esp 84 54 SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 85 55 followingmercer.esp 254 FE 2f Random Alt. Start 3 SE-Tamriel.esp 86 56 FurnitureMarkerSex.esp 87 57 PoisonMastery.esp 254 FE 30 DreadGirl.esp 88 58 OBIS Loot SE.esp 254 FE 31 Hydragorgon Furniture Patch.esp 89 59 GuardsArmorsAndWeapons.esp 90 5a Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 91 5b SkyrimSewers.esp 92 5c More Interesting Loot Remastered.esp 93 5d TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmorExtended.esp 94 5e Run For Your Lives.esp 95 5f CG4 Visual_Trees&Bushes.esp 96 60 NerniesThiefPack.esp 97 61 DragonfallCastle.esp 98 62 ArteFake.esp 99 63 PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp 100 64 MiasLair.esp 254 FE 32 Devious Devices - BRRF.esp 254 FE 33 Devious Devices - Struggle Idles Patch.esp 101 65 Devious Lore.esp 102 66 PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp 103 67 EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp 104 68 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 105 69 SofiaFollower.esp 106 6a Laura's Bondage Shop.esp 107 6b SkystoneCastle.esp 108 6c East Reach House.esp 109 6d Crime Overhaul.esp 254 FE 34 NARC SE for Vanilla.esp 110 6e PROTEUS.esp Pahe_AltStartLAL.esp 111 6f SimpleSlavery.esp 112 70 pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp 113 71 Xyla.esp 114 72 Triumvirate - Mage Archetypes.esp 254 FE 35 [Caenarvon] Calamity Queller.esp 115 73 Cum Alchemy.esp 254 FE 36 MoreNocturnalStatues.esp 116 74 LABikiniSSE.esp 117 75 LADX_SSE.esp 118 76 Prison.esp 119 77 paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp 120 78 Sneak Tools.esp 121 79 KNM_AcalyphaFollower.esp 122 7a tetro - Kailu.esp 254 FE 37 CK_Mare_Follower.esp 123 7b KS Hairdo's.esp 254 FE 38 Devious Lore - KS Hair Patch.esp 124 7c PetCollar.esp 125 7d ERF - Ceraph.esp 254 FE 39 Paragon Sparrow Rogue.esp 254 FE 3a QH Aerith follower.esp 126 7e Regreses Star Cloth.esp 127 7f CraftingSupplies_AIO_ALL.esp 128 80 PAN_FollowerPack1.esp 129 81 _GSPoses.esp 130 82 SLAL_GSAnimObjects.esp 254 FE 3b SnakBarr.esp 254 FE 3c R18pn - Shanoa Armour SE.esp 131 83 ColdharbourDaedra.esp 254 FE 3d EnyoFollowerHP.esp 132 84 RohZima_AnimObjects.esp 254 FE 3e DaedricDescendants.esp 133 85 TrueHel.esp 134 86 LunariWarriors.esp 254 FE 3f MinMin Standalone Follower.esp 254 FE 40 Twilek Queens.esp 135 87 Naked Defeat.esp 136 88 Comoritos Suit Pack.esp 254 FE 41 saskia.esp 137 89 OtherArrows.esp 138 8a LycHairstyler.esp 254 FE 42 [Rektas] Advent [SE].esp 254 FE 43 Augege_Athena.esp 254 FE 44 Cindersoul [SE].esp 254 FE 45 PeroPeroArmorPackSE.esp 139 8b Cristal See-Through.esp 140 8c Dark Queen.esp 254 FE 46 Demonic Seduction [SE].esp 254 FE 47 Ebokini.esp 254 FE 48 Evil Lady [SE].esp 254 FE 49 Sexual Vampire Feed.esp 141 8d [dint999] HairPack02.esp 254 FE 4a Fox.46 Armor Collection.esp 254 FE 4b Holiday Gift Hairdos.esp 142 8e Hermaeus Mora Priestess.esp 254 FE 4c Homebody [SE].esp 254 FE 4d Hunter of Darkness [SE].esp 254 FE 4e Seraphine Outfit.esp 254 FE 4f IcyV [SE].esp 254 FE 50 Ivy Valentine Armor.esp 254 FE 51 KuWa Pantyhose [SE].esp 254 FE 52 Lace [SE].esp 143 8f LindsHumanEyes.esp 144 90 LightMageOutfit.esp 145 91 lingling.esp 254 FE 53 MBO 0051 by Team TAL.esp 146 92 Mega Milk - CBBE SE.esp 147 93 _MixMaid.esp 254 FE 54 [Rektas] Mystique 2 [SE].esp 148 94 BBD_NereidPirate_Modular.esp 149 95 Neith - Timerigan Priestess.esp 254 FE 55 Nihon [SE].esp 150 96 Northern Priestess - EX.esp 151 97 Nyotengu Gust Mashup Swimwear.esp 254 FE 56 Panties [SE].esp 152 98 pinkbutterfly.esp 153 99 QT_Honey.esp 154 9a Rachel Halloween Suit.esp 155 9b Ryeonggi.esp 254 FE 57 Ryuko Matoi.esp 156 9c SG 220 Hair Pack.esp 157 9d SGHairPackAIO.esp 254 FE 58 Sexdoll Outfit.esp 254 FE 59 School Uniform.esp 254 FE 5a Sexy Imperial General Armor.esp 254 FE 5b Silent Assassin [SE].esp 254 FE 5c [Rektas] Sins of Daedra [SE].esp 254 FE 5d ID_Outfits.esp 158 9e Something Wicked.esp 159 9f Steel_Knight.esp 254 FE 5e Starlight Queen [SE].esp 254 FE 5f [Rektas] Thaler [SE].esp 160 a0 Tullius Eyes.esp 161 a1 WT Tribal Clothe.esp 254 FE 60 VelveteenArmor.esp 162 a2 VindictusMixRobes.esp 254 FE 61 neamhain.esp 254 FE 62 [Schaken-Mods] Vtaw Katana.esp 163 a3 Woodsnow's shoes&stockings.esp 254 FE 63 wuyi8.esp 164 a4 XIVSummerSwimsuit.esp 254 FE 64 [Xuniana]Alet_Stealth_Suit.esp 165 a5 QIM Followers.esp 254 FE 65 Enya_Follower.esp 166 a6 kankore_WO.esp 254 FE 66 maymayHairs.esp 254 FE 67 008Philippa.esp 167 a7 Poser Hotkeys.esp 168 a8 Torch Wall Sconce Anywhere.esp 169 a9 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 254 FE 68 XF Shadow Void SpiderTech Outfits.esp 254 FE 69 LockMaster.esp 254 FE 6a Wax cast Skeleton Key.esp 170 aa PAN_Serana.esp 171 ab VtawWardrobe5.esp 254 FE 6b Brows.esp 254 FE 6c BakaFactoryABC.esp 254 FE 6d DX Fetish Fashion Volume 1 SE.esp 172 ac Oblivion Horses.esp 173 ad TheDBInitiates.esp 254 FE 6e eqRLE_DLC1.esp 254 FE 6f eqRLE_DLC2.esp 254 FE 70 Vyren - Standalone Follower.esp 254 FE 71 _VK_Mai.esp 174 ae Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 175 af Bijin AIO.esp 254 FE 72 3BBB.esp 254 FE 73 SOSPhysicsManager.esp 254 FE 74 TrueDirectionalMovement.esp 176 b0 (SGC) SkySA.esp 177 b1 3PCO.esp 178 b2 AnubAnimObj.esp 179 b3 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 254 FE 75 SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp 254 FE 76 Better Skill and Quest Books Names SE.esp 180 b4 NAT-ENB.esp 181 b5 Cathedral Weathers.esp 182 b6 SkyCompleteLegendary.esp 254 FE 77 DX RedRibbon.esp 183 b7 DD_Helpers.esp 254 FE 78 Devious Devices SE patch.esp 184 b8 UIExtensions.esp 185 b9 ExtraPocket.esp 254 FE 79 GirlHeavyArmor.esp 254 FE 7a GDOS - Splendid Mechanized Dwemer Door.esp 254 FE 7b FemaleWolvenLvl5.esp 186 ba Vile Vixens of Skyrim.esp 254 FE 7c PAN_DevotedDames.esp 187 bb BDE_Armor.esp 188 bc Deadly Wenches.esp 189 bd DynamicDungeonLoot.esp 190 be P1FlyingRing.esp 254 FE 7d ProjectImpact.esp 191 bf Devious Devices - Equip.esp 192 c0 ART_HearthfireChests.esp 193 c1 nocturnal.esp 254 FE 7e DX Bikini Collection SE Full.esp 254 FE 7f High Level Enemies Redux - Encounter Zone Max Level Tweaks.esp 194 c2 iHUD.esp 195 c3 High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp 196 c4 High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp 197 c5 pchsImmersivePlugs.esp 198 c6 Immersive Speechcraft.esp 199 c7 infiniteCharge.esp 200 c8 Larceny - Pickpocketing Remastered.esp 201 c9 LazyTools.esp 254 FE 80 LootParalyzedPeople.esp 202 ca Tongues.esp 254 FE 81 MCMHelper.esp 254 FE 82 NARC SE patch - SIC.esp 254 FE 83 NocturnalMarriagable.esp 203 cb Origins Of Forest - 3D Forest Grass.esp 204 cc PAN_Nevri.esp 205 cd PAN_Malora.esp 206 ce PAN_Frida.esp 207 cf PAN_NPCs_DG.esp 254 FE 84 Perfect Touch Them Essentials.esp 208 d0 SexLabTools.esp 209 d1 PAN_NPCs_DB.esp 254 FE 85 pickpocketing-forever.esp 210 d2 DX Pornstar SE.esp 211 d3 PAN_NPCs.esp 254 FE 86 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 212 d4 XPMSE.esp 213 d5 RaceMenuHH.esp SDA RDO Patch.esp 214 d6 SLAnimLoader.esp 254 FE 87 SU'MMER Disguise.esp 254 FE 88 Womanized List.esp 215 d7 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 216 d8 SexLabMatchMaker.esp 254 FE 89 SexlabLightMeUp.esp 217 d9 LV_Cirilla.esp 218 da BBD_SkeletonKey.esp 219 db SlaveTats.esp 254 FE 8a [Caenarvon] Spindrift Knight.esp 220 dc PAN_VampireLeaders.esp 221 dd TorchArrow.esp 254 FE 8b True Weapons.esp 254 FE 8c Unique Loot - Weapons.esp 222 de nocturnalfollower.esp 254 FE 8d NocturnalReplacer.esp ub_apachii_hair.esp ub_invite_any_npc.esp 223 df Valerica.esp 254 FE 8e Vision of Skyrim.esp 254 FE 8f Warp Stones of Barenziah.esp 254 FE 90 YMMP.esp 254 FE 91 ZAZpatch.esp 224 e0 MilkyObj.esp My Odds And Ends.esp 254 FE 92 CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp 254 FE 93 BarbarianPaints.esp 254 FE 94 CommunityOverlays3.esp 225 e1 Dr_Bandolier.esp 254 FE 95 CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp 226 e2 SGHair33x144.esp 254 FE 96 FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp 254 FE 97 Gotobed.esp 227 e3 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 254 FE 98 InfiniteShoutsTalosShrine.esp 254 FE 99 Lamenthia's Marks of Beauty.esp 254 FE 9a KSHairdosSMP.esp 254 FE 9b Koralina's Makeup Tweaks.esp 228 e4 Kala_Eyes.esp 254 FE 9c koralinas_freckles_moles.esp 254 FE 9d dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp 254 FE 9e Pickpocket100Chance.esp RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp 254 FE 9f RDO - USSEP Patch.esp 254 FE a0 Realistic Legendary Damage.esp 254 FE a1 SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp 229 e5 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 230 e6 Well-Stocked Alchemists.esp pahe-tdf-patch.esp 231 e7 PAN_MarvellousMiners.esp 232 e8 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 254 FE a2 Olivia - Follower.esp 233 e9 Bonney.esp 254 FE a3 Aradia Black Leather Thief.esp 234 ea Vivace.esp 235 eb Aradia Leather Outfit.esp 254 FE a4 Aradia Snake Rogue.esp 236 ec Dark Dreams.esp 254 FE a5 Demonatrix SE.esp 237 ed [Predator] Latex Condom Suit.esp 254 FE a6 NibeneanArmorsAndOutfit.esp 254 FE a7 Proteus - Triumvirate Patch.esp 238 ee dse-display-model.esp 254 FE a8 rzaa-dm3-furniture.esp 254 FE a9 prj-dm3-furniture.esp 254 FE aa dse-display-model-loadscreens.esp 254 FE ab DecoratorHelper.esp Proteus - Sacrosanct Patch.esp 254 FE ac Mystique [SE].esp 239 ef Dem Collection for CBBE.esp 254 FE ad SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp 254 FE ae SexLab sslAnimationSlots 2000 SE.esp 240 f0 DD_NPC_Fixup.esp Simply Knock - Tower Stone Fix.esp 241 f1 TavernGames.esp 242 f2 Tullius Hair.esp 243 f3 CN_Eyes.esp 244 f4 SOS addons.esp 254 FE af High Poly Pretty Face and Darker Brows Stand Alone.esp 254 FE b0 SparrowFollower.esp 245 f5 RZ_ApocryphalAnimations.esp 254 FE b1 Containers and Leveled Lists Fixes.esp 246 f6 Better Vampires.esp 254 FE b2 Proteus - Better Vampires Patch.esp 247 f7 nwsFollowerFramework.esp Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp PCE - USSEP Patch.esp PCE - ELFX PATCH.esp PCE - Skyrim Sewers Patch.esp 248 f8 ELFX - Hardcore.esp 249 f9 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 254 FE b3 ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp 254 FE b4 RealisticWaterTwo - Alt Volcanic Watercolor.esp 254 FE b5 RW2 Better Watercolor - Tropical.esp 254 FE b6 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp Edited July 15, 2022 by TheJerkku
Seijin8 Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, TheJerkku said: Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 2
RevanCathal Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 That's a constant problem with numerous armor/clothing part mods. None of them take in account for the other item or the fact that Schlongs of Skyrim uses slot 52 as well. In your case, the mod author would have been better off leaving the slot 52 spot out of the Bikini Top.
TheJerkku Posted July 15, 2022 Author Posted July 15, 2022 55 minutes ago, Seijin8 said: That worked, thanks! 1
Seijin8 Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jgoftl said: That's a constant problem with numerous armor/clothing part mods. None of them take in account for the other item or the fact that Schlongs of Skyrim uses slot 52 as well. In your case, the mod author would have been better off leaving the slot 52 spot out of the Bikini Top. While you're not wrong, the fact that SOS "schlongifies" armors in such a flat way, and does so using keywords that are present in the esp, but not the esm, etc, just exemplifies doing shit the wrong way. Granted, it was early on in the modding scene for Skyrim, so hinsight and all that, but it is flat out bad design.
RevanCathal Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, Seijin8 said: While you're not wrong, the fact that SOS "schlongifies" armors in such a flat way, and does so using keywords that are present in the esp, but not the esm, etc, just exemplifies doing shit the wrong way. Granted, it was early on in the modding scene for Skyrim, so hinsight and all that, but it is flat out bad design. True. Unfortunately it would be up to someone other than the original mod authors for SOS to correct that issue.
Seijin8 Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jgoftl said: True. Unfortunately it would be up to someone other than the original mod authors for SOS to correct that issue. Really wouldn't be that hard to make significant improvements. A few simple ones that would go a long way for compatibility: Swap the schlongification script to adjust the ArmorAddon instead of the Armor. Would still cause issues, but the unequip stuff would stop at least. Make the SOS_Revealing, SOS_Concealing, etc keywords into injected records with a prefix of 01xxxxxx so that it would only create a dependency to the Update.esm and allow mod authors to make stuff auto-compatible with SOS without needing to use it as a dependecy at all. Thats just a couple hours' work to set it up and test it. Trouble would be doing it in a way that didn't break the old SOS during an upgrade, and making it so that it wouldn't be an issue to then uninstall and roll back. That kind of compatibility stuff could be game-breaking, so probably why nobody has done it.
RevanCathal Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 14 hours ago, Seijin8 said: Really wouldn't be that hard to make significant improvements. A few simple ones that would go a long way for compatibility: Swap the schlongification script to adjust the ArmorAddon instead of the Armor. Would still cause issues, but the unequip stuff would stop at least. Make the SOS_Revealing, SOS_Concealing, etc keywords into injected records with a prefix of 01xxxxxx so that it would only create a dependency to the Update.esm and allow mod authors to make stuff auto-compatible with SOS without needing to use it as a dependecy at all. Thats just a couple hours' work to set it up and test it. Trouble would be doing it in a way that didn't break the old SOS during an upgrade, and making it so that it wouldn't be an issue to then uninstall and roll back. That kind of compatibility stuff could be game-breaking, so probably why nobody has done it. I couldn't do any of that as I currently have 0 experience doing anything like that.
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