The State of Bodies in FO4: Fusion Girl vs CBBE 3BBB

[Karna5]

3 hours ago, terms said:

 

I am so super happy for you. Maybe I should have been more specific that I meant it has relatively fewer public or shared presets.

 

I have spent time trying to make my own presets in both skeletons and I'm terrible at it. It isn't about other people telling me what is beautiful -- I know what I like, but I haven't seen it reproduced in Fusion Girl. I've tried, but I'm bad at it. And I haven't seen other people make presets with Fusion Girl that are comparable to those of 3BBB, much less improve on 3BBB.

 

I'm just pointing out that, if people are confused about why Fusion Girl isn't more popular, one reason is that the presets that are publicly available are less interesting. I don't think it's just me, because, as stated earlier, I rely heavily on other people's presets. Other people who enjoy non-noodle legs.

 

Then please accept this as me publicly sharing the preset I used to make this. You can use it as a starting point to your own variations if you wish.

 

Karna's Fusion Fable Slut Preset.7z

 

p.s. I should warn anyone who uses this preset or who tries to make their own presets for Fusion Girl (which has native integration of OCBPC) that you cannot judge a Fusion Girl preset by how it looks in BodySlide. You must test it in game because gravity from OCBPC dramatically changes how it looks in game, and BodySlide does not show you the appearance with gravity.

 

That's why I am sharing this preset with an in-game example of it. If you need to see an in-game example of it with motion I'll add it to the spoiler here:

 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Karna5

[eflat01]

On 10/18/2023 at 1:09 PM, terms said:

 

I am so super happy for you. Maybe I should have been more specific that I meant it has relatively fewer public or shared presets.

 

I have spent time trying to make my own presets in both skeletons and I'm terrible at it. It isn't about other people telling me what is beautiful -- I know what I like, but I haven't seen it reproduced in Fusion Girl. I've tried, but I'm bad at it. And I haven't seen other people make presets with Fusion Girl that are comparable to those of 3BBB, much less improve on 3BBB.

 

I'm just pointing out that, if people are confused about why Fusion Girl isn't more popular, one reason is that the presets that are publicly available are less interesting. I don't think it's just me, because, as stated earlier, I rely heavily on other people's presets. Other people who enjoy non-noodle legs.

 

I use my own preset but then again FG is the body I picked after toying with so many, I've not played a lot of FO4 but probably have possibly well over 10k maybe more hours in Skyrim over the years starting from it's first release thru SSE. 

 

Anyway FG does have more bones to attached vertices. So it is likely more configurable than others. You're correct though that presets are important, because I start out with one and tweak it, usually something petite. So yes there are not a lot of presets shared for FG. Likewise when comes to clothing it's often a hunt unless you convert them yourself. 

 

I always liked DX's stuff over in Skyrim and so had to check out https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/73861?tab=files ... 

 

The best detail in aaf animations do revolve around FG, due it's capable morphs, typically SG and BP then again there are not very many aaf animation packs. 

 

Anyway, I've never been just a plug and play player, always tweaking and mixing. FG is more of a thing for players who do that.  

 

Edited October 19, 2023 by eflat01

[Dojo_dude]

Cant we just add another breast bone to the Zex skeleton?

[brololo]

On 6/19/2022 at 1:09 AM, thefabulousfink said:

Hi I'm coming back to Fallout after a few years off and it seems like during that time a lot changed in the modding community.  As I've been rebuilding my mod list I came to the eternal question of "What Body Skeleton To Use?"  In the past I liked Fusion Girl for the slider shape and functionality and prior to version 1.70 or so it had reasonable support on Nexus and LL.  I have downloaded the newest version and it's nice, but since the author left the Nexus it seems like support and conversions aren't as common.  On the other hand it looks like CBBE with 3BBB and Skeletal Adjustments/Knee Fix have made a number of improvements to CBBE.

 

What are peoples opinions on the Pros and Cons of these two systems?  Are there any hard incompatibilities or unique features that make you pick one over the other?  Which do you see as the more commonly supported mod going forward?

 

3bbb is also a bitch to install in skyrim 3bbb all the way but in fallout for me it is gonna be fg i stopped using 3bbb today replaced it with fg only need to fix a face texture issue now but not a hard fix also allot of fg outfit/armor conversions actually show up to pick from in bodyslide making it way less awkward than with 3bbb outfit and armor replacers or conversions

[MarkedStrelok]

I know this thread is about Fusion Girl and CBBE, but I always had a problem that I could never fix and it was about the details in the neck textures, where a cut line is clearly visible. I downloaded many texture and mesh mods but I still kept seeing them. And if it wasn't because of the cut, it was because of the unrealistic skin. Currently I only use Wonder Body, even though the body morphology doesn't work when it comes to the sliders and even less so in the AAF animations, where there is no vagina opening, the most I could achieve was to make a combination of WB with Busty Girl to increase the size of her breasts and butt, despite finding some clothing cuts, especially in dresses. I was also able to use OCBP. So I have to settle with that. I also looked at forums and threads where they adapted an approximation of JaneBod but without precise results. Fusion Girl and CBBE have potential but they lack a touch that I can't appreciate due to my obsession with silly details.

[nunyabidnez]

Forgive my ignorance, but why is it a common comment that CBBE doesn't work with AAF or sex scenes?  It's all I've ever used, and I've not experienced any issues with the bodies or animations, other than the framerate slow downs others have experienced with AAF?  Thanks for any background on it.

[Here4SlootyMods]

Jiggle physics is there if you use OCBP(C).

 

Oral sex I'm not really sure about since the animators just open the mouth.

 

 

 

Vaginal/Anal sex requires both the body and the animation to support it. CBBE by itself doesn't have vaginal/anal "opening" of any sort. You need the "Animated Fannies" mod but the common criticism with that mod is that it simply opens/closes (i.e.: it just plays an animation when sex is happening) so it's a bit unrealistic. This ain't the movie "Teeth" so it shouldn't snap shut on the dick if it's still in there. An animation that does support it with Fusion Girl keeps it open while the dick is in.