Corsec's Lewd Patches Clusterfuck Madness

[Leodriz]

Hi,
I use TAWOBA and luxury collection togeather with some of the patches from here. It works quite fine but I got one problem.
Bikini Armors quite often spawns for male NPC's. They look just like the standard armor though so not really a problem there. However, when they get nude there is a hole where their SOS schlong auhgt to be. This because Devious Devices underneath hides the slot. 
Does anyone know a good way to get around this without disabling the DD hiding? Some way to not have the equipped by males for example?

[Corsec]

2 hours ago, Leodriz said:

Hi,
I use TAWOBA and luxury collection togeather with some of the patches from here. It works quite fine but I got one problem.
Bikini Armors quite often spawns for male NPC's. They look just like the standard armor though so not really a problem there. However, when they get nude there is a hole where their SOS schlong auhgt to be. This because Devious Devices underneath hides the slot. 
Does anyone know a good way to get around this without disabling the DD hiding? Some way to not have the equipped by males for example?

 

What male NPCs are being affected? Vanilla or modded?

 

This isn't supposed to affect males, only females, so something is obviously going wrong. Can you click on an affected male NPC in the console, take a screenshot and then post it, please? Or you can tell me what mod they are from.

 

My best guess is that the males are set to wear the tavern clothes outfit. I modify this to use either non-DDs or Luxury Collection depending on which patch you are using. Unfortunately some mods assign this outfit to male NPCs which results in them wearing items that they shouldn't. The best fix is just to patch the male NPCs to use a different type of outfit. So if I can find out what mod is being affected then I can patch it.

 

I don't remember adding non-DDs to bikini armors, so I'm confused by that.

Edited April 12, 2022 by Corsec

[Leodriz]

14 hours ago, Corsec said:

 

What male NPCs are being affected? Vanilla or modded?

 

This isn't supposed to affect males, only females, so something is obviously going wrong. Can you click on an affected male NPC in the console, take a screenshot and then post it, please? Or you can tell me what mod they are from.

 

My best guess is that the males are set to wear the tavern clothes outfit. I modify this to use either non-DDs or Luxury Collection depending on which patch you are using. Unfortunately some mods assign this outfit to male NPCs which results in them wearing items that they shouldn't. The best fix is just to patch the male NPCs to use a different type of outfit. So if I can find out what mod is being affected then I can patch it.

 

I don't remember adding non-DDs to bikini armors, so I'm confused by that.

It took a little time for me to find good examples. but here are a few. Fist Lucan Valerius in Riverwood got clothes from Luxury Collection, witch makes him invisible.
Next are a few bandits from outside and just inside Helgen keep.

[Hanshurtig11]

I have the problem, that some of the NPC wearing DDs have invisable feet, as i see, all, that wear steel cuffs and such. Other, that wear restrictive boots are ok. Is it possible, that they should wear the old slave ring boots ?

I am using DD5 Beta 4 and could not find them there anymore. Maybe they are removed ? regards and thanx for your work... really like it.

[Corsec]

1 hour ago, Hanshurtig11 said:

I have the problem, that some of the NPC wearing DDs have invisable feet, as i see, all, that wear steel cuffs and such. Other, that wear restrictive boots are ok. Is it possible, that they should wear the old slave ring boots ?

I am using DD5 Beta 4 and could not find them there anymore. Maybe they are removed ? regards and thanx for your work... really like it.

 

I double-checked "Iron Slave Heels" in my game and they seem to work OK. Are these the ones you mean? Example picture in the spoiler-

 

Spoiler

 

If DD Beta has removed them then it will create problems when my patches make NPCs wear them. I won't update my patches for just a Beta, only the official version.

 

The simplest fix is for me to give you a quick patch to remove them from the main file. Download and install this after the main files.

 

NPCs won't update their outfits until they have a cell reset. This will take 10 days ingame if you don't enter their cell. You can go inside somewhere alone and wait 10 days. Or you can click on them and type 'resetinventory' in the console.

Non-Devious Device Masterlist - No Iron Slave Heels For DD Beta 13_04_2022.7z

[Corsec]

9 hours ago, Leodriz said:

It took a little time for me to find good examples. but here are a few. Fist Lucan Valerius in Riverwood got clothes from Luxury Collection, witch makes him invisible.
Next are a few bandits from outside and just inside Helgen keep.

 

The console screenshots are very helpful, thanks.

 

Lucan Valerius is wearing a LUX item that is not assigned by my patches. In my game, the "LUX Fur-Play: Midnight Delicates Top (White)" is only being loaded into the merchant inventory of the LUX Vendor in Whiterun. My patches do not load it anywhere else, no NPC is being made to wear it.

 

Lucan has more items in his inventory than vanilla, so I am sure that he is being edited by another mod. need to fidn out by what.

 

None of my patches should be assigning bikini armors to any of the NPCs you have screenshotted. It shouldn't even be possible, I have avoided any edits that might affect other NPCs.

 

This indicates to me that there is an unwanted interaction going on somewhere with other mods. Something else is altering NPC outifts. I checked the Pandorables NPCs Male 2 mod and it isn't doing this, so it is safe to use.

 

Are you using any mods that alter the outfits of vanilla NPCs? Post your modlist.txt (if you use MO2) and I will check for incompatibilities.

 

I see that you are using OBIS, TPOS and Heritage. I'm not familiar with these mods.

 

If you know how to do it, then the most helpful thing would be to load your entire modlist in SSEEdit, then find the NPCs in the screenshots and then see if any other mods are editing them.

 

Do you have any mods for "Spell Perk Item Distributor"? Or any mods that dynamically change the items that NPCs wear?

 

Are you using any of my patches from the LE thread? Don't use them, only use ones from the SSE thread.

 

On 4/12/2022 at 4:43 PM, Leodriz said:

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However, when they get nude there is a hole where their SOS schlong auhgt to be. This because Devious Devices underneath hides the slot. 
Does anyone know a good way to get around this without disabling the DD hiding? Some way to not have the equipped by males for example?

 

There were some problems in the past with the DD hider and LUX items. I can't remember exactly, but I think I removed all problematic items from my LUX patches.

 

Can you send me a screenshot of an NPC who has both bikini armor items and also DD items?

 

I don't think I ever assign Bikinis and DDs at the same time.

Edited April 13, 2022 by Corsec

[Hanshurtig11]

12 hours ago, Corsec said:

 

I double-checked "Iron Slave Heels" in my game and they seem to work OK. Are these the ones you mean? Example picture in the spoiler-

 

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If DD Beta has removed them then it will create problems when my patches make NPCs wear them. I won't update my patches for just a Beta, only the official version.

 

The simplest fix is for me to give you a quick patch to remove them from the main file. Download and install this after the main files.

 

NPCs won't update their outfits until they have a cell reset. This will take 10 days ingame if you don't enter their cell. You can go inside somewhere alone and wait 10 days. Or you can click on them and type 'resetinventory' in the console.

Non-Devious Device Masterlist - No Iron Slave Heels For DD Beta 13_04_2022.7z 559 B · 0 downloads

Thanx for your quick answer. I just checked again, and with knowing the name, i found the ring heels in DDx. Sorry for the presumption, was just a quick guess.. I will try the patch you made, many thx for that!!. Better have NPC with bare feet instead with no feet ;) regards

[bubba999]

There used to be a Hydra Slavegirls patch for Non devious devices but without Immersive Wenches... right? That's what I need, please?

[Corsec]

2 hours ago, bubba999 said:

There used to be a Hydra Slavegirls patch for Non devious devices but without Immersive Wenches... right? That's what I need, please?

 

I don't remember making one previously, but I might have done it a long time ago and then forgotten. I can make that for you. Just some questions first, and I'll need them all answered before I can get to work on making the patch.

 

1). Are you using any other plugins to patch HSG? I'm thinking of the KS Hairs for HSG patch, but also anything else that edits HSG NPCs. This will conflict with many of my non-wench edits and I will need to make a custom version to be compatible. I'd need to know about this before I can make the customised patch.

 

2). Do you want me to also include the edits to things like balancing of NPC inventories, speech bug fixes, turning some NPCs into followers? No point in wasting my time preserving those edits if you won't ever use them. Plus I need to make them compatible if you are using the KS Hairs patch.

 

3). Do you want me to also include the Bikini Armor stuff for female NPCs?

 

4). Do you want an additional patch-for-a-patch for the Furniture Patch found on the HSG SSE modpage?

 

Also keep in mind that a non-DD patch will require the non-DD masterlist file, which currently has Immersive Wenches as a master. So I'd need to make a customised version of the masterlist with the wench stuff removed and the masters edited.

[bubba999]

41 minutes ago, Corsec said:

 

I don't remember making one previously, but I might have done it a long time ago and then forgotten. I can make that for you. Just some questions first, and I'll need them all answered before I can get to work on making the patch.

 

1). Are you using any other plugins to patch HSG? I'm thinking of the KS Hairs for HSG patch, but also anything else that edits HSG NPCs. This will conflict with many of my non-wench edits and I will need to make a custom version to be compatible. I'd need to know about this before I can make the customised patch.

 

2). Do you want me to also include the edits to things like balancing of NPC inventories, speech bug fixes, turning some NPCs into followers? No point in wasting my time preserving those edits if you won't ever use them. Plus I need to make them compatible if you are using the KS Hairs patch.

 

3). Do you want me to also include the Bikini Armor stuff for female NPCs?

 

4). Do you want an additional patch-for-a-patch for the Furniture Patch found on the HSG SSE modpage?

 

Also keep in mind that a non-DD patch will require the non-DD masterlist file, which currently has Immersive Wenches as a master. So I'd need to make a customised version of the masterlist with the wench stuff removed and the masters edited.

 

I found it! I was looking through my external files collection and found "Non-Devious Devices Masterlist for Hydra Slavegirls" and "Hydra Slavegirls Patch for Non-Devious Devices" Installed them and it worked!

 

I really appreciate you offering to do all that work but I guess you did it already at some point in the past. And it seems to work just fine with "Hydra Slave Girls KShairs With High Poly Heads" Again, thanks!

[Corsec]

3 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

 

I found it! I was looking through my external files collection and found "Non-Devious Devices Masterlist for Hydra Slavegirls" and "Hydra Slavegirls Patch for Non-Devious Devices" Installed them and it worked!

 

I really appreciate you offering to do all that work but I guess you did it already at some point in the past. And it seems to work just fine with "Hydra Slave Girls KShairs With High Poly Heads" Again, thanks!

 

OK, I'm glad that worked out for you. I'm guessing I posted them at least a year ago in the LE thread?

 

If you upload the files to me then I will review them in xEdit and double-check that everything is working as intended. I'll probably also need to convert them in the CK from LE to SSE if you haven't already.

 

Does the KS hairs patch have a plugin or is it just the textures/meshes folders with the facegen data? If so then there won't be any compatibility problems.

[bubba999]

30 minutes ago, Corsec said:

 

OK, I'm glad that worked out for you. I'm guessing I posted them at least a year ago in the LE thread?

 

If you upload the files to me then I will review them in xEdit and double-check that everything is working as intended. I'll probably also need to convert them in the CK from LE to SSE if you haven't already.

 

Does the KS hairs patch have a plugin or is it just the textures/meshes folders with the facegen data? If so then there won't be any compatibility problems.

 

I'll have to wait a bit before I can take another look. Should I upload them here?

 

Got the KS hairs here:

 

Edited May 7, 2022 by bubba999

[Corsec]

19 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

 

I'll have to wait a bit before I can take another look. Should I upload them here?

 

Got the KS hairs here:

 

Upload it here so that others can see and use it. Do so whenever you're ready, there's no rush and I'm always happy to delay work until later lol.

 

Yeah that's the KS hairs patch I was thinking of.

[bubba999]

Ok, here's the "Non-Devious Devices Masterlist for Hydra Slavegirls" and "Hydra Slavegirls Patch for Non-Devious Devices" No Immersive Wenches needed.

 

I don't know if they've been converted to SE although they work fine in mine. Ok, the last one has 4 different ones including the one I use.

Hydra Slavegirls Patch for Non-Devious Devices.7z Non-Devious Devices Patches for Hydra Slavegirls 05_10_2020.7z

Edited May 7, 2022 by bubba999

[Corsec]

28 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

Ok, here's the "Non-Devious Devices Masterlist for Hydra Slavegirls" and "Hydra Slavegirls Patch for Non-Devious Devices" No Immersive Wenches needed.

 

I don't know if they've been converted to SE although they work fine in mine. Ok, the last one has 4 different ones including the one I use.

Hydra Slavegirls Patch for Non-Devious Devices.7z 55.55 kB · 0 downloads Non-Devious Devices Patches for Hydra Slavegirls 05_10_2020.7z 422.35 kB · 0 downloads

 

I guess that you're using the "Hydra Slavegirls Patch for Non-Devious Devices.esp" which is included in both 7z archives? The following comments assume this.

 

It has the edits to turn some NPCs into balanced followers and it changes the slave outfits to use non-DDs. It doesn't add jewellery to the slave outfits, it doesn't add bikinis and it doesn't reduce the excessive amount of inventory items; I added all those edits in later updates. I can add either of these back in if you like, let me know if you do.

 

The edits this patch makes to NPCs will be incompatible with the KS Hairs patch if that KS patch uses a plugin to edit NPCs. In that case I'd recommend loading the KS hairs patch after the Non-DD patch, you'll lose the follower stuff but beauty is more important lol of course.

 

Note that this patch requires the non-DD masterlist, which requires Immersive Wenches. If you would like to remove the wench requirement then I can make one for you and you can then delete the wenches mod from your modlsit entirely if desired.

[bubba999]

Thanks for the reply, Corsec. Since it actually works for me there's no need to change anything right now. Do I need to run it through Cathedral?

[Corsec]

13 hours ago, bubba999 said:

Thanks for the reply, Corsec. Since it actually works for me there's no need to change anything right now. Do I need to run it through Cathedral?

 

No need for Cathedral since it's just a plugin. Cathedral is for meshes/texture assets of which my patches have none.

 

The community opinion is that Form 43/44 doesn't matter so you probably don't need to resave it in CK to change the Form version for LE->SSE conversion. It will probably annoy you though if you don't disable the Form version checker in MO2.

 

One more issue is that the patch you are using changes the vanilla tavern outfit to use non-DDs. This will affect any NPCs that are assigned the vanilla tavern outfit. This means a few female workers in the taverns, one male NPC from dragonborn and possible modded male NPCs. It affects Mogrul in Raven Rock, so I have uploaded a patch to make him wear fine clothes instead, otherwise he will be naked since non-DDs don't show up on males. I can also delete the edit to tavern clothes if you want. The only other male NPC that I know is affected is from the Legacy of the Dragonborn gallery mod. I think there might be a male NPC in Bruma who wears the tavern outfit.

 

If that's everything then you can just go ahead and keep playign with it. Enjoy!

Mogrul Put Your Clothes On.7z

Edited May 8, 2022 by Corsec

[bubba999]

2 hours ago, Corsec said:

 

No need for Cathedral since it's just a plugin. Cathedral is for meshes/texture assets of which my patches have none.

 

The community opinion is that Form 43/44 doesn't matter so you probably don't need to resave it in CK to change the Form version for LE->SSE conversion. It will probably annoy you though if you don't disable the Form version checker in MO2.

 

One more issue is that the patch you are using changes the vanilla tavern outfit to use non-DDs. This will affect any NPCs that are assigned the vanilla tavern outfit. This means a few female workers in the taverns, one male NPC from dragonborn and possible modded male NPCs. It affects Mogrul in Raven Rock, so I have uploaded a patch to make him wear fine clothes instead, otherwise he will be naked since non-DDs don't show up on males. I can also delete the edit to tavern clothes if you want. The only other male NPC that I know is affected is from the Legacy of the Dragonborn gallery mod. I think there might be a male NPC in Bruma who wears the tavern outfit.

 

If that's everything then you can just go ahead and keep playign with it. Enjoy!

Mogrul Put Your Clothes On.7z 841 B · 0 downloads

 

Thanks again! Say, if you want to take on a project..... You know how SD Cages has all these slave girls that you can't do anything with? Want to turn them into NPCs you can free and recruit? That would take some time, I bet!

 

(I have no idea if that is allowed or anything but it always seemed like a natural thing to happen.) Anyway, just a thought. Appreciate your help.

[Corsec]

10 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

 

Thanks again! Say, if you want to take on a project..... You know how SD Cages has all these slave girls that you can't do anything with? Want to turn them into NPCs you can free and recruit? That would take some time, I bet!

 

(I have no idea if that is allowed or anything but it always seemed like a natural thing to happen.) Anyway, just a thought. Appreciate your help.

 

It's easily doable, and can be done quickly. I already have a patch to add non-DD outfits to the SD Cages NPCs and give them wench appearances. Making them followers just requires changing their factions. It would also need to edit their stats to make them level with the player. I'd also recommend using Nether's Follower Framework because you can use it's MCM to customize their class/combatstyle/spells etc.

 

I can make a custom patch for you that will both give non-DD outfits to SD Cages slaves and also make them recruitable. Optionally I can remove wench edits from the pre-existing patch. Or rather then the wench faces I could make the slaves use the NPC faces from HSG which will in turn use your HSG KS Hairs High Poly patch, this will make the SD Cages slaves visually consistent with HSG slaves. Basically I mean SD Cages slave faces -> HSG faces -> HSG KS Hair High Poly faces.

 

I can't remember why I didn't already make SD Cages slaves recruitable, I think at the time I thought it would conflict with their factions because they need to be friendly with bandits while enslaved. Recruiting them won't remove their bandit-friendly faction but they should then become hostile to bandits after recruitment (I think, I don't remember actually testing that so maybe I'm wrong and they will be bandit-friendly even after recruitment).

 

So tell me if you want a SD Cages non-DD plus recruitment patch, and whether you prefer vanilla, wench or KS Hair High Poly faces.

[bubba999]

2 hours ago, Corsec said:

 

It's easily doable, and can be done quickly. I already have a patch to add non-DD outfits to the SD Cages NPCs and give them wench appearances. Making them followers just requires changing their factions. It would also need to edit their stats to make them level with the player. I'd also recommend using Nether's Follower Framework because you can use it's MCM to customize their class/combatstyle/spells etc.

 

I can make a custom patch for you that will both give non-DD outfits to SD Cages slaves and also make them recruitable. Optionally I can remove wench edits from the pre-existing patch. Or rather then the wench faces I could make the slaves use the NPC faces from HSG which will in turn use your HSG KS Hairs High Poly patch, this will make the SD Cages slaves visually consistent with HSG slaves. Basically I mean SD Cages slave faces -> HSG faces -> HSG KS Hair High Poly faces.

 

I can't remember why I didn't already make SD Cages slaves recruitable, I think at the time I thought it would conflict with their factions because they need to be friendly with bandits while enslaved. Recruiting them won't remove their bandit-friendly faction but they should then become hostile to bandits after recruitment (I think, I don't remember actually testing that so maybe I'm wrong and they will be bandit-friendly even after recruitment).

 

So tell me if you want a SD Cages non-DD plus recruitment patch, and whether you prefer vanilla, wench or KS Hair High Poly faces.

 

That would be so awesome! Ok, I would like an SD Cages Non-DD recruitment patch preferring KS Hair High Poly faces. You, sir, are a god among modders! Thank you!

 

Having them recruitable means I don't have to mess with the other "Slave girls in camps" mods, which have always been problematic for me...

[Corsec]

32 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

 

That would be so awesome! Ok, I would like an SD Cages Non-DD recruitment patch preferring KS Hair High Poly faces. You, sir, are a god among modders! Thank you!

 

Having them recruitable means I don't have to mess with the other "Slave girls in camps" mods, which have always been problematic for me...

 

Did you use Devious Bandit Camps? I have it installed but haven't tried it yet. Are there any problems with it?

 

Don't mention if there are any problems with Sexy Bandit Captives lol because the author has opinions about receiving criticism lmao.

 

I'm make the patch either later tonight of tomorrow. But certainly before Monday.

[bubba999]

6 minutes ago, Corsec said:

 

Did you use Devious Bandit Camps? I have it installed but haven't tried it yet. Are there any problems with it?

 

Don't mention if there are any problems with Sexy Bandit Captives lol because the author has opinions about receiving criticism lmao.

 

I'm make the patch either later tonight of tomorrow. But certainly before Monday.

 

I must have tried every single one of them and they all have issues. Just looking for simplicity. Free them, recruit them or let them go in a town like Wenches.

Some of them want you to install RDO just so you can recruit a certain voice type.... nah! Thanks again.

[Corsec]

55 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

 

I must have tried every single one of them and they all have issues. Just looking for simplicity. Free them, recruit them or let them go in a town like Wenches.

Some of them want you to install RDO just so you can recruit a certain voice type.... nah! Thanks again.

 

I think the rescuable Immersive Wenches can also recruited after you release them in town.

 

In case you didn't already know; if you install Buxom Wench Yuriana then you can get repeatable quests to rescue wenches, it integrates with the base quest in Immersive Wenches. It works on a sort of radiant system, they will spawn in random locations when you start the quest. They also get some nice clothes to wear. But if you don't like the rescuable wench quests then you probably won't like the expanded ones in yuriana.

 

I promise I'll work on the patch soon, but I'm playing another game tonight and I've got that feeling where I need to finish this dungeon and questline before I can do anything else lol.

 

If you're looking to grow a harem of slaves then the Paradise Halls mods might be an option (I'm guessing you already know about it but I thought I'd mention it just in case).

Edited May 8, 2022 by Corsec

[bubba999]

24 minutes ago, Corsec said:

 

I think the rescuable Immersive Wenches can also recruited after you release them in town.

 

In case you didn't already know; if you install Buxom Wench Yuriana then you can get repeatable quests to rescue wenches, it integrates with the base quest in Immersive Wenches. It works on a sort of radiant system, they will spawn in random locations when you start the quest. They also get some nice clothes to wear. But if you don't like the rescuable wench quests then you probably won't like the expanded ones in yuriana.

 

I promise I'll work on the patch soon, but I'm playing another game tonight and I've got that feeling where I need to finish this dungeon and questline before I can do anything else lol.

 

If you're looking to grow a harem of slaves then the Paradise Halls mods might be an option (I'm guessing you already know about it but I thought I'd mention it just in case).

 

I'm not against the wenches mods, having played them in the past. It's just some of the enemies are way overpowered for my weak solo character...

[Corsec]

1 hour ago, bubba999 said:

 

I'm not against the wenches mods, having played them in the past. It's just some of the enemies are way overpowered for my weak solo character...

 

Yeah, the mod author doesn't believe in balance, big titties give superpowers apparently lol.

 

I also have another patch here that I have never uploaded before. It is a balance patch for the Immersive Wenches to make the wench NPCs have stats more like vanilla NPCs so they aren't overpowered. It is compatible with the KS Hairs patch for wenches and requires it as a master.

 

I gave them classes identical to the vanilla ones. I copied the combat styles from the Wildcat mod. I set all their speed multipliers to 100 (used to be 115). I removed all their vanilla perks (I use SPID for NPC perks instead). I removed all the custom wench spells and shouts (but retained the vanilla spells). I also gave them the Zaz slave faction for compatibility with slavery mods. I removed weapons from everyone except the wench guards who protect caravans (this is for compatibility with expensive weapon licences in Sexlab Survival).

 

There is a similar balance patch on the Nexus for Deadly Wenches. I don't have any similar patches for Yuriana, I think I deleted tham all when I uninstalled Yuriana.

Immersive Wenches - Balance Patch.7z