Sun Shang Xiang Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 There is a (not so small, I think) problem that I need help with. Today as I downloaded the Cross Goodies and installed them with NMM, I started having this kind of problem: Oblivion loads normally, but as soon as that video at the main menu is over, it CTDs. Since I use Crash Prevention from Nexus, while loading I also hear that it prevents a crash. I used OBMM's New Conflict Detector, and was unable to start it. It made this crashdump file which says: 16. lipanj 2013. - 8:36:47 1.1.12 (Safe mode) OS version: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7600.0 Type: System.IO.EndOfStreamException Error message: Unable to read beyond the end of the stream. Stack trace: at System.IO.__Error.EndOfFile() at System.IO.BinaryReader.FillBuffer(Int32 numBytes) at System.IO.BinaryReader.ReadUInt32() at OblivionModManager.ConflictReport.NewReportGenerator.Plugin.ReadGroup(BinaryReader br, Int64 Size, Dictionary`2 FormIDLookup, Node Parent, List`1 EDIDs) at OblivionModManager.ConflictReport.NewReportGenerator.Plugin.GenIDList() at OblivionModManager.ConflictReport.NewReportGenerator.Plugin..ctor(String Path, Node BaseNode, Byte formID, Boolean Walk) at OblivionModManager.ConflictReport.NewReportGenerator.bActive_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) Does anyone know what this means? Since I am not overly into this, any help would be appreciated.
gregathit Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 I recommend uninstalling NMM completely. It is a massive F'ing train wreck. I recommend using OBMM or even better to use Wyre Bash. CTD at the beginning like you describe typically is due to a bad oblivion.ini file or a missing master. It can be other things as well but most generally it comes back to those two. Here is how to get your load order via OBMM: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/11515-please-read-before-posting-here/ We really can't help you until we see your load order.
Sun Shang Xiang Posted June 16, 2013 Author Posted June 16, 2013 Well, aside the fact that I have around... I would hazard a guess, around 400 mods installed (I said installed, not active), 255 of which are active, obviously, and that would be a pain to copy. But alright, I will post my load order. Tell me how to do it and I will do it.
gregathit Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Ok, let's back up. Oblivion has has both a hard cap and a soft cap. The hard cap is 255 (plus the oblivion.esm for a total of 256 esm and esp files). Whether you can reach the hard cap is a function of your computer spec's. The soft cap is somewhere between 300 to 400 esm, esp and bsa files and it makes ZERO difference if they are active or not. Oblivion counts any esm\esp\bsa file in the data folder. How many you can have at one time in your data folder again is a function of your computer spec's. It is not recommended to have much more on the soft cap than the hard cap. It most certainly is not recommend to keep "installed" but not active esm\esp\bsa files in your data folder unless you have a really good reason for it. The more you have, the more likely your game is to become increasingly unstable. As to your load order, I gave you a link that tells you exactly how to get via OBMM or Wyre Bash. It is a 2 second copy\paste deal.
Sun Shang Xiang Posted June 16, 2013 Author Posted June 16, 2013 Okay here is my load order: Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm x117race.esm EnhancedWeather.esm Sexdarkness.esm Cobl Main.esm underdark.esm Kvatch Rebuilt.esm Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esm X.Races.Comp.esm Toaster Says Share v3.esm CM Partners.esm TARDISMaster.esm AGC-TARDISMaster.esm Portal.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm TamagoClub.esm CustomSpellIcons.esm loverstats.esm BreakUndies.esm Lovers with PK.esm Cross_Goodies.esm spelliconreplace.esp MyD_Obliv_Class_Pack_1.esp MyD_Obliv_Class_Pack_2.esp SpeedBuster Collection.esp Forgrum's Travelogue.esp DLCOrrery.esp DimensionalPocket.esp XTS-Merchant-Mod-V1.0.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Birthsigns Beta 1.0.esp Get Wet v0.9.esp Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp Elemental Horses.esp Loadies_vol_01.esp Bigger_Soul_Gem.esp 3437-1.4 Uppdat-The Tower of the Lich King-TESSource.esp Unlimited Weapon Recharge.esp cyrodiil transportation network 1.3 wz.esp Spell Delete.esp Unlimited Rings 2.0 -auto.esp Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp RealSleepExtended.esp university cosmetics.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp SIForcePush.esp Knights.esp KseAliSanctum.esp Lock Spells.esp Quest Award Leveling.esp GlenvarCastle.esp Starterchest.esp Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp Colourwheels Sexy Dance Club.esp Cheat & Fun Spells.esp Jedi LightSabers with Sound.esp Magus Lost Alteration Spells.esp FF00_Clothes.esp FF00_Ladies Equipment.esp TRoN.esp Sexdarkness.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Galadhrim_EV.esp MidasSpells.esp X.Races.Comp.esp UnderdarkSaga.esp Ivan2.esp Ivan.esp Ivan3.esp JediLightsabersCollectionV1.5.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp EnhancedWeather.esp EnhancedWeather - SI.esp SexdarknessModern.esp RenGuardOverhaul.esp RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp Cobl Tweaks.esp Cobl Si.esp Ivan4.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Ivan5.esp ViconiaTweaks.esp Colourwheels Sexy Dark brotherhood.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Map Marker Overhaul.esp Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp JediLightsabersWithSheathFIX.esp CapsAdmin.esp AltPegasus.esp Ivan6.esp Kvatch Rebuilt_Frostcrag.esp FleshAtronachGSAndDSSpellmaking.esp Pegasus.esp NollesMadnessPortalT2.esp Colourwheels Sexy Ayelid Shrine.esp Borderless.esp Hentai_LovelySuits.esp Get Wet.esp Colourwheels Sexy Skyrim Outpost HGEC.esp Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Arboretum.esp ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Arena.esp ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Elven Gardens.esp ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Green Emperor Way.esp ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Market.esp ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Prison.esp ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Talos Plaza.esp ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Temple.esp ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Waterfront.esp Hadhafang.esp BridFetishGirl.esp Colourwheels Sexy Tavern HGEC.esp DMRA BBB Skimpy Shivering Royalty.esp P1DseeYouSleep - Portable Campsite.esp HTBMondsteinShop.esp Colourwheels Sexy Imperial Legion.esp Colourwheels Sexy SI Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp CuteElf11.esp SMCuteElf.esp SMChorrol - BC Patch.esp FrostcragMidasLab.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Princess Sheogorath Palace.esp [Hexaae] Get Wet v0.92.esp SMChorrol.esp SMVtoyCross.esp zzEDialog.esp zzEstrus.esp Basic Primary Needs.esp HentaiMania2.esp My Voice Extender.esp Symphony of Violence.esp DLCVileLair.esp HTBNeoSGOutfitsRedone.esp DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp SG001_BunnyGirl.esp SG014_SparkleSweetSummer.esp SG006_Nabiya.esp SG004_Stargazer.esp SG002_Button.esp SG003_Slit.esp Neo's LandCH.esp Neo's Gantz.esp Neo'sFelicia.esp DMwardropemerged.esp Basic Personal Hygiene.esp k1_CW7heaven.esp __thermae.esp TARDIS by Drekmoor.esp UVII.esp HUD Status Bars.esp Portable Campsite.esp VToy.esp P1DseeYouSleep.esp Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp GhostArmor.esp P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp DMRASexyGhostArmor.esp ANBMiniMicroBikiniBDM.esp Midnight Gymnastics.esp Dremora female.esp BisSP_RHH_2.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp TamagoShop.esp TamagoNews.esp TamagoConfide.esp TamagoTopic.esp LoversEncounter.esp LoversHiyokoShooter.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp TamagoSetBody.esp LoversAphrodisia.esp LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversDRader.esp LoversPayBandit.esp LoversCalm.esp LoversSoundCreature.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp LoversImmoralSisters.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversTachiCat2.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversMagic.esp LoversBed.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversPower.esp LoversMB2.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp TamagoPlayerHUDkil.esp LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp LoversStupidNpc.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversTrueCrime.esp LoversHudInformation.esp LoversNecrophilia.esp LoversGalgatBeastRape.esp LunasPixieRace.esp HGEC_SBVelvetRose.esp LadyFantasyBBBHVer.esp BBYggdrasill.esp 1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp LoversMotionsNT.esp LoversSituations.esp Unsafe Streets.esp Nephs RHH Arena Raiments.esp 1SB_SisterNightfallOutfit.esp SnakeArmor.esp DMRA BBB R18PN Lingerie.esp TRN One of the Gang.esp Kasumi.esp Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp Lady Rogue.esp FizzCandy.esp RealisticFatigue.esp VipCxj_RadarSystem.esp LoversFangedRevenge.esp Streamline 3.1.esp HSValentines2013.esp SetBody.esp PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.65.esp Samus_ZeroSuit.esp Dominatrix01.esp The Elementals.esp Blue and White.esp FuroGeneratorTrap.esp LoversRaperS.esp DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp LSTaddonInH.esp Ryk_Swimwear.esp xeosp++.esp SexGGodess.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Lovers with PK.esp Cross_Goodies.esp CGDynastyCompilation.esp Specialanims.esp Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp I know, it's not perfect but... it worked. Until today. P.S.: Off the topic, have you any more idea why Ark of Truth discontinued Harbinger?
gregathit Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Not perfect is.....well........I don't even know how to respond. Your just lucky the game starts at all. You have things so badly out of whack that nothing is going to work correctly. You need to run BOSS quick, fast and in a hurry!! Then hand sort your lovers files to match this post (click the spoiler): http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ Get rid of your duplicates: LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp <--use this one LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp <---delete this one This is not needed for anything so you can delete it: LoversMotionsNT.esp Sex darkness is not compatible with lovers. Pick one sex mod or the other. Where are your MBP 1.4a and MBP++ ver98a esp files??? Bravil Underground Requires them!
mem4ob4 Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Load order and compatibility are very important.Use BOSS to sort your non lovers w pk mods, then use the load order at this Link (inside spoiler), for the LwPK plugins.This Link will let you know what mods are not compatable with LoverswPK.Mem Edit- Opps... Gregathit got here first.
Sun Shang Xiang Posted June 17, 2013 Author Posted June 17, 2013 @gregathit: First off, MBP is right below Oblivion.esm. Not sure if it is 1.4a but it is 1.4 version. As for that other version, do you mean the xeosp++.esp? IF so, then I have it near the end of the load order, between Ryk_Swimwear and SexGGoddess. Edit: Does it matter if I have some of the mods inactive and in the middle of those active?
gregathit Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 @gregathit: First off, MBP is right below Oblivion.esm. Not sure if it is 1.4a but it is 1.4 version. As for that other version, do you mean the xeosp++.esp? IF so, then I have it near the end of the load order, between Ryk_Swimwear and SexGGoddess. No. You must have these files in your load order (unless you did some HEAVY file tweaking): Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseA00 Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp If you have a bashed patch then you can merge the ones in red into it and it will auto disable them. Having the MBP esm file enabled is not enough. Sorry. Same thing applies to Tamago Club I am pretty sure.
Sun Shang Xiang Posted June 17, 2013 Author Posted June 17, 2013 You mean active? And I both have Tamago.esm and .esp. And as for xeoex.esp, I have it INACTIVE because it was said that if I have xeosp++.esp I didn't need xeoex. Most of those red files I have but Merged SKSRENs, RoseA00, RoseSims and x117 SKSRENs are new to me. I don't have them. Edit: As for Moonshadows, do I have to have it active? I don't use that version. I use normal version.
gregathit Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 On the MBP stuff: Yes! You have to either have them active or merged into a bashed patch. The files are new to you because you are not listening to what I am telling you. Go back and install BOTH MBP 1.4a AND MBP++ v98 and you will have them. The easiest thing to do is install an AIO (all in one) version: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/2590-mbp-allin1-omod-v21beta/ Or you can install them individually: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/833-install-beautiful-people-a-guide-to-setting-up-beautiful-people-modular-bp/ Yes, you need to use the MBP version of the MS elves (or Lovers\Tamago plugins can't find it). It should be the same thing so just delete the other versions esp. I have never said anything about XeoSp or XeoSP++, so I don't know why you keep talking about it. While you most definitely should Use ONLY the XeoSP++ version if you are going to use Xeo, it doesn't have anything at all to do with Lovers with PK or Tamago Club. Neither mod uses Xeo resources. If you have Xeoex.esp in your data folder then delete it. There is ZERO reason to ever have or use it when you have XeoSP++.
JSmith20142 Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Not commenting on the order of your lovers mod, except to say you can't do it like that. TamagoClub.esm is a master for HiyokoClub.esm, yet you have HiyokoClub loading first .... I also see VToy - isn't that Claudia's Little Secret, which isn't lovers compatible (let alone sexdarkness AND lovers compatible) ? Three incompatible sex mods in one load order ...
Sun Shang Xiang Posted June 18, 2013 Author Posted June 18, 2013 Well, then I have to do one and only option left, and it fills me with more dread than reliving your own death: I have to reinstall Oblivion. And the problem is, I don't know what mods to reinstall. Bloody Libra...
gregathit Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 While I don't envy you on having to reinstall it will perhaps help you update things to their most current versions, remove unused assets, and reinforce the need for you to periodically back up your game. Best of luck to you. If you end up not being able to find something, just ask in the "what is this" thread in the adult mod section. There are quite a few folks that can hook you up with mods that are hard to find.
Sun Shang Xiang Posted June 19, 2013 Author Posted June 19, 2013 Thank you for your support. Now to find all that I WILL need...
Sun Shang Xiang Posted June 20, 2013 Author Posted June 20, 2013 Well, this is just GREAT. Would someone have a 7z with the .iso inside it? Oblivion is one of the few games I don't have as an .iso file, and the DVD is so scratched up it is a miracle I can reach those 90+ percent with that disc.
gregathit Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 Well, this is just GREAT. Would someone have a 7z with the .iso inside it? Oblivion is one of the few games I don't have as an .iso file, and the DVD is so scratched up it is a miracle I can reach those 90+ percent with that disc. No! This type of thing is not allowed on this forum. Please read the forum rules: http://www.loverslab.com/index.php?app=forums&module=extras§ion=boardrules
Sun Shang Xiang Posted June 24, 2013 Author Posted June 24, 2013 @JSmith20142: As for VToy, I believe that Grumpf has made a compatibility patch for Lovers mods, so that you can run both VToy and Lovers mods.
Sun Shang Xiang Posted June 26, 2013 Author Posted June 26, 2013 Well, after quite a bit of experimenting and torture with my discs, I managed to reinstall Oblivion. Now to decide (aside the Shivering Isles, of course) which plugins I need to have...
gregathit Posted June 26, 2013 Posted June 26, 2013 Don't forget to make a backup after installing a few files. You can compress the backup to save space. Keep only the backups that you have disk space for.
Sun Shang Xiang Posted June 26, 2013 Author Posted June 26, 2013 Thanks for the advice, I will immediately do so. NOT doing so would prove that I don't learn from my mistakes, and I do learn. Edit: Feel free to close this topic, I doubt that I have anything to add to this.
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