Elrond_Hubbard Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Try crouching. Do the breasts distort in a very odd way once this bug manifests? When crouching, make sure the breasts are showing (IE you are not wearing armor) If they distort, it's a skeleton problem and your character('s breasts) is attempting to use a skeleton that's not properly installed. I endorse XPMS
Jerbsinator Posted June 15, 2013 Author Posted June 15, 2013 Now that I think about it, the problems started after I started using UNP Bodyslide. But I removed it and put back the original body files for unp (backed them up before installed Bodyslide) But perhaps there is some files left that causes this, any ideas? Could having the wrong .hkx files cause this? Also anyone using XPMS try using this version in the provided link, it's not as up to date (I believe it's 1.73 or something) but it has the high breasts issue fixed, which is very noticeable on bigger breasts. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/17328-xp32-issue/?do=findComment&comment=396070 If you don't know what that is basically the problem with XPMS is the breasts sit to high, higher than most skeletons and it looks BAD, this sets them back to the right position, so animations and stuff actually look good now.
Rayblue Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Now that I think about it, the problems started after I started using UNP Bodyslide. But I removed it and put back the original body files for unp (backed them up before installed Bodyslide) But perhaps there is some files left that causes this, any ideas? Could having the wrong .hkx files cause this? It's possible. You have several meshes and skeletons installed and therefore affect the body shape, and often they can clash with each other.
Xanà Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 So what should I do to fix this? Since Skyrim is more or less Un-playable right now. Or it's not, but it's extremely annoying.
D_ManXX2 Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Well after reviewing where is your load order ?? everyone has been trying to help you with a blind eye. without load order to see what you have truly installed we could be helping you to infinity. This could be incompatible mod busted skeleton hkx files so many things now and not enough facts to help. On page 2 someone even asked for your load order: Me too. wtf? Your mod list and maybe your load order would probably help, but try reinstalling your skeleton. It solved a few problems for me in the past. I use the Skeleton of Female Models by ning999 and BBP and the UNP Cofigurator Replacer, and I've never seen this happen before, but then again, this apppears to a brand new problem (I think). Edit: Crap! Wish I could keep helping, but I REALLY need to get some sleep. If your problem hasn't been solved in a few hours (5 or 6 hours), then I'll be back to crack this sucker for you (if I can. Never heard of this before). Sorry. I'll check back as soon as I open my eyes. I always do! And you still didn't show anything.. Unless you don't want to waste peoples time where is the load order first ??
Xanà Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Well after reviewing where is your load order ?? everyone has been trying to help you with a blind eye. without load order to see what you have truly installed we could be helping you to infinity. This could be incompatible mod busted skeleton hkx files so many things now and not enough facts to help. On page 2 someone even asked for your load order: Me too. wtf? Your mod list and maybe your load order would probably help, but try reinstalling your skeleton. It solved a few problems for me in the past. I use the Skeleton of Female Models by ning999 and BBP and the UNP Cofigurator Replacer, and I've never seen this happen before, but then again, this apppears to a brand new problem (I think). Edit: Crap! Wish I could keep helping, but I REALLY need to get some sleep. If your problem hasn't been solved in a few hours (5 or 6 hours), then I'll be back to crack this sucker for you (if I can. Never heard of this before). Sorry. I'll check back as soon as I open my eyes. I always do! And you still didn't show anything.. Unless you don't want to waste peoples time where is the load order first ?? Sorry, I forgot here you go!
AwfulArchdemon Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 hm, surprised to see anyone with the Hi-ResTexture Pack.esp's checked. Why do you have 2 RND Dawngaurd Patches? Thought you said you deactivated the ECE. Never even heard of Character Making Extender. Go to your data dir and look to see if you have Bodyslide in there. If you have ShapeData and SliderSets, then your UNP Sliders mod left files behind. Get rid of them. Uninstall ECE, then your skeleton. Reinstall skeleton. If it's XP32, then run FNIS, then check it out. You may opt to check an old save, one before installing Sliders. (Racemenu from Nexus has sliders of it's own, and I recommend it.) If you see no problem there, check your latest save next. If it's screwed up still, I'm at a loss. Looks like you've BOSSed, so that's always good. Let me know what happens (I'm crossing my fingers over here). Edit: May want to use a spoiler for load orders, as they are huge.
Xanà Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 hm, surprised to see anyone with the Hi-ResTexture Pack.esp's checked. Why do you have 2 RND Dawngaurd Patches? Thought you said you deactivated the ECE. Never even heard of Character Making Extender. Go to your data dir and look to see if you have Bodyslide in there. If you have ShapeData and SliderSets, then your UNP Sliders mod left files behind. Get rid of them. Uninstall ECE, then your skeleton. Reinstall skeleton. If it's XP32, then run FNIS, then check it out. You may opt to check an old save, one before installing Sliders. (Racemenu from Nexus has sliders of it's own, and I recommend it.) If you see no problem there, check your latest save next. If it's screwed up still, I'm at a loss. Looks like you've BOSSed, so that's always good. Let me know what happens (I'm crossing my fingers over here). Edit: May want to use a spoiler for load orders, as they are huge. hm, surprised to see anyone with the Hi-ResTexture Pack.esp's checked Are you not entertained??? Why do you have 2 RND Dawngaurd Patches? I really don't know, I just installed immersive mods a bit quick I guess, but I'm pretty sure it was just 1 until I tried out BOSS. Thought you said you deactivated the ECE Errr, Can't say I did. But If I did, I'm sorry Go to your data dir and look to see if you have Bodyslide in there. If you have ShapeData and SliderSets, then your UNP Sliders mod left files behind I checked but there is no bodyslide "files" etc there.. Uninstall ECE, then your skeleton. Reinstall skeleton. If it's XP32, then run FNIS, then check it out. I'll try that, thanks! You may opt to check an old save, one before installing Sliders Yeah, but that's when my head was about to get chopped off and Good Dragon Alduin saved me. Racemenu from Nexus has sliders of it's own, and I recommend it. I'll try that out aswell Edit: May want to use a spoiler for load orders, as they are huge.
Jerbsinator Posted June 16, 2013 Author Posted June 16, 2013 Presets in your Bodyslide folder shouldn't mess with your actual game.
AwfulArchdemon Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Since I never had this problem, I'm basically trying to land a lucky guess here. If all else failed, start a new game (new save and all that), and see if this problem happens to the new PC. If no, then there's something stuck in your regular game's save files. I see you have ZaZ Animation Pack. Have you considered getting the ZazResources.esp?
D_ManXX2 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Then what is? D: Did you try disabling EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp like the original poster suggested ?? something is conflicting greatly with your mod Enhanced character edit. Also try using BOSS to sort your load order. rearrange the plugins boss don't recognize.
Xanà Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Then what is? D: Did you try disabling EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp like the original poster suggested ?? something is conflicting greatly with your mod Enhanced character edit. Also try using BOSS to sort your load order. rearrange the plugins boss don't recognize. Tried both, didn't work.
AwfulArchdemon Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Did you start a new game and check to see if the problem exists there too?
Xanà Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 I'm trying but every time I'm changing sex, the game crashes.And If i'm that luck that it doesn't crash, it crashes when I'm changing appearance.
AwfulArchdemon Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Jeez o man do you got issues! Did you follow my previous advice, and reinstall your skeleton? I didn't see a custom race in your load order...hmmm..........I almost wanna tell you to copy your data folder, and reinstall Skyrim...almost. Maybe a pro will jump in and solve this bitch. I'm thinking anything that alters your racemenu may be causing this. What is oblHairs? Bunch of master files. And what the hell is D Sp So B.esp?? Whish I could help, but you'll have to uninstall something. Remember, I recommend the Racemenu mod from Nexus. ECE is incompatible with it. In fact, I remember trying to use that damn ECE before, now that I think about it! Never worked for me. CTD all day. Junk it (imo).
D_ManXX2 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 The crashes could be due to too many hair mods you need those skse dll files to stop all hair loading at once when using showracemenu. It's called showracemenu precache killer: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/33526 if reinstalling the skeleton and use fnis for users won't work then maybe a full reinstall from scratch is in order. Seem you have way more problems to your game then you are admitting.
Xanà Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Jeez o man do you got issues! Did you follow my previous advice, and reinstall your skeleton? I didn't see a custom race in your load order...hmmm..........I almost wanna tell you to copy your data folder, and reinstall Skyrim...almost. Maybe a pro will jump in and solve this bitch. I'm thinking anything that alters your racemenu may be causing this. What is oblHairs? Bunch of master files. And what the hell is D Sp So B.esp?? Whish I could help, but you'll have to uninstall something. Remember, I recommend the Racemenu mod from Nexus. ECE is incompatible with it. In fact, I remember trying to use that damn ECE before, now that I think about it! Never worked for me. CTD all day. Junk it (imo). And yeah, I tried to reinstall the skeleton, didn't work (obviously) And I don't "Custom" race, I'm playing as a Nord. As far as I know D: Here's the mods you asked for: Oblhairs: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18110//? D sp So B: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17746/? Well I tried racemenu before but it's all junk and I got many mods that needs ECE to work. I guess I'll just gotta remove all the mods & Un-Install Skyrim.
AwfulArchdemon Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 If you want to use it with custom skeleton mods you need Custom Skeleton Replacers by Skulltyrant To make this mod work with CHSBHC - BBP you need DSpSoB and CHSBHC - BBP Compatibility by Everlive If you using Realistic Ragdolls and Force you need Custom Skeleton Files by Neovalen Troubleshooting/FAQ Q. Oh no my shield is on the ground / my weapon is on the ground. A. DSpSoB is not compatible with custom skeleton mods. To fix this you can delete following files: \Data\Meshes\actors\Character\character assets\skeleton.nif \Data\Meshes\actors\Character\character assets\skeletonbeast.nif \Data\Meshes\actors\Character\character assets female\skeleton_female.nif \Data\Meshes\actors\Character\character assets female\skeletonbeast_female.nif Also place DSpSoB last in load order. Q. Mod is not working at all! / New features dont work after update. A.To fix this open console and type "help dspsob" This will show in console thouse lines: MGEF: YYYYYYYY DSpSoB SPEL: XXXXXXXX DSpSoB Spell Where X is spell ID. Now when you know spell ID type in the console "player.removespell XXXXXXXX" and then "player.addspell XXXXXXXX" DSpSoB is not compatible with mods that modifies races or skeleton. It can be customized to work with other mods tho. This is from the dl page for Dspsob. If that doesn't help, someone else will have to take it from here. I'm no fan of ECE, so my opinions are biased when it comes to that mod. I'm surprised you got it to work at all. Sorry if none of this stuff solved it. It's an anomaly to me...
Jerbsinator Posted June 18, 2013 Author Posted June 18, 2013 Try this for the sex change crashing, I had this to, I am not sure if ECE caused it though. http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17071//? Otherwise if you weren't really using ECE just disable and see if that fixes it. I'm not sure if this disables the sliderscale.ini (if you wanted higher maximum slider values) but if it does you won't be able to make stuff really huge. If you are using UNP though I imagine this is not an issue for you.
Xanà Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Hay again guys! I fixed the problem, turns out that there was a mod that changed the clothes body so whenever I put on vanilla clothes, the weight got reset back. Either way, thanks for all the support and help! ^^
AwfulArchdemon Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Hay again guys! I fixed the problem, turns out that there was a mod that changed the clothes body so whenever I put on vanilla clothes, the weight got reset back. Either way, thanks for all the support and help! ^^ GRRRR...!!...zzzzzZZZZ BOOM!!Just for that, you have to tell us all what the problem was, and how you solved it. There may be those who are searching for an answer for this exact problem, and your response may help them.
Xanà Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 No reason to get angry! Well frankly I don't know which mod it was since there was so many, but when I looked trough my log of downloaded mods I think it might be this: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/20227/?tab=1&navtag=%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D20227%26preview%3D&pUp=1 And next time, drink a cup of tea before posting.
D_ManXX2 Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 This bug is actually game engine one. let me explain.i have seen this when using Adec Caribbean body too my tits where huge when first creating my character. then i would wear an armor or clothes witch does not support Adec TBBP and the breast would reset to become smaller again. the only fix i found was quit then restarting the game and only wear clothes and armor the body mesh was made for. My first answer even mentioned about the reset of breast when wearing clothes the breast was not used for. The clue was undress that clothes and wear one of those armor the breast mesh was created for then restart your game. And it should make your breast the size it was when you first used showracemenu.
Xanà Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 This bug is actually game engine one. let me explain.i have seen this when using Adec Caribbean body too my tits where huge when first creating my character. then i would wear an armor or clothes witch does not support Adec TBBP and the breast would reset to become smaller again. the only fix i found was quit then restarting the game and only wear clothes and armor the body mesh was made for. My first answer even mentioned about the reset of breast when wearing clothes the breast was not used for. The clue was undress that clothes and wear one of those armor the breast mesh was created for then restart your game. And it should make your breast the size it was when you first used showracemenu. Well I tried to restart the game but it didn't work.
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