BreadlyDud Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Alright I'm losing my mind. I had working animations until I started a Sexlab Scene. Characters just clipped into each other: I must of forgotten to run FNIS. So I run FNIS and now it's Tpose city. Except for animals, they're fine. I have had custom installations of Sexlab working before, so I get what I'm doing... or so I thought. I have tried reinstalling both FNIS and XPMSSE. I have tried disabling some mods. I have turned off windows active antivirus. Disclaimer: I see people talk about where FNIS is in the load order. I can't find rules for it because at some point my eyes just glaze over. What else could I possibly do? Before anyone goes "Spank that ass is for LE" it is the SE conversion found here on LL. I'm also using animation crash fix. Anyway here's my FNIS output. Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL 10/21/2021 1:16:10 PM Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.5.97.0 - E:\Steam Library\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ... ChAnims:304 CTD:1.8% pOpt:0.5% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ... ChAnims:145 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... ChAnims:136 CTD:0.8% pOpt:0.2% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:185 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:634 CTD:3.7% pOpt:0.8% Reading Anubs Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:1221 CTD:7.1% pOpt:1.6% Reading AyasatoAnims V1.0 ... ChAnims:90 CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.1% Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:291 CTD:1.8% pOpt:0.4% Reading Babo Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:482 CTD:3.0% pOpt:0.7% Reading Bathing in Skyrim V?.? ... ChAnims:14 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:509 CTD:3.4% pOpt:1.0% Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... ChAnims:220 CTD:1.4% pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... ChAnims:145 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:86 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... ChAnims:285 CTD:1.8% pOpt:0.4% Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... ChAnims:190 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... ChAnims:100 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:461 CTD:2.8% pOpt:0.7% Reading Billyy_HumanDD V1.0 ... ChAnims:200 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_HumanFurnitureInvis V1.0 ... ChAnims:40 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading Billyy_HumanFuta V1.0 ... ChAnims:47 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ... ChAnims:130 CTD:0.8% pOpt:0.2% Reading CobaltAnimations V1.0 ... ChAnims:160 CTD:1.0% pOpt:0.2% Reading DD V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:725(576) CTD:13.1% pOpt:1.0% Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:374(374) CTD:10.7% pOpt:0.0% Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ... ChAnims:119(119) CTD:2.9% pOpt:0.0% Reading DDC V1.2 ... ChAnims:58 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.2% Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:410 CTD:2.8% pOpt:0.9% Reading Defeat V5 ... ChAnims:39 CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.2% Reading DeviousFollowers V1.00 ... ChAnims:34(34) CTD:1.3% pOpt:0.0% Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V9.0 ... ChAnims:23 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading DF_Spank V1.0 ... ChAnims:70 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.1% Reading Fillherup V5 ... ChAnims:25 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading FNISBase V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISSexyMove V7.2 ... ChAnims:165(162) CTD:3.3% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ... ChAnims:94 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.6% Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... ChAnims:344 CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.6% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:107 CTD:0.7% pOpt:0.2% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... ChAnims:16 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading NibblesAnims_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:259 CTD:1.6% pOpt:0.4% Reading NibblesAnims_Object V1.0 ... ChAnims:148 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading PsycheAnimation V1.0 ... ChAnims:259 CTD:1.6% pOpt:0.4% Reading PsycheCreature V1.0 ... ChAnims:101 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.2% Reading SexLab V1.63 ... ChAnims:882 CTD:5.6% pOpt:1.5% Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ... ChAnims:142 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ... ChAnims:5 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... ChAnims:177 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading SL_Survival V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:19 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading SpankThatAss V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:2 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% >>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_testpack_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<< Reading testpack V1.0 ... ChAnims:294 CTD:1.7% pOpt:0.4% Reading XPMSE V7.2 ... ChAnims:164(164) CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ... ChAnims:1669 CTD:7.9% pOpt:0.1% Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ... ChAnims:42 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... 6 GENDER modifications for Animations\male 11 GENDER modifications for Animations\female Alternate Animation mods: 7 sets: 49 total groups: 226 added file slots: 1701 alternate files: 1429 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... Reading PsycheCreature V1.0 ... 12841 animations for 54 mods successfully included (character). ChAnims: 12841 CTD:99.0% pOpt:16.8% max: 12966 LC: 25910 (max. 26162) >>Warning: Too many custom animations. Your Skyrim is likely to crash (CTD, crash to desktop)<< You can increase your animation number DRASTICALLY with these tools: Animation Limit Crash Fix (Skyrim SE and LE), SSE Engine Fixes (Skyrim SE only) Since FNIS cannot know if such mod is installed, it will still warn you at the original limit. But when such tool is used, load calculation can be switched off (FNIS.ini: "LoadCTDCalculation=0") 5376 animations for 15 mods and 45 creatures successfully included.. 2 Warning(s). And here's my load order I guess: Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full ESL Version.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm FISS.esp UHDAP - MusicHQ.esp UHDAP - en0.esp UHDAP - en1.esp UHDAP - en2.esp UHDAP - en3.esp UHDAP - en4.esp Landscape and Water Fixes.esp MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm MajesticMountains_Moss.esp BetterDynamicAsh-DisableRefs.esm RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm BetterContainerControls.esl AHZmoreHUD.esl FarmhouseChimneys.esp Campfire.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm CreatureFramework.esm Simple No More Stupid Dog.esl SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl ApachiiHairMales.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm Heels Sound.esm EFFCore.esm SimpleChildren.esp SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm FNIS.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.esp Butterflies.esp SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp Hearthfires Houses Building Fix.esp UnlimitedBookshelves.esp SkyUI_SE.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Better Dynamic Snow SE.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp MajesticMountains.esp Cathedral Landscapes.esp RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Frost Meshes Patch.esp DustEffectsSSE.esp Enhanced Vanilla Trees SSE.esp Footprints.esp Footprints - ENB.esp HD Stone Quarry and Clay Deposits SE.esp SparklesSE.esp ORM-Arvak.esp IHSS.esp Thundering Shouts.esp Brows.esp Beards.esp LRR - Alternative - by LeonardoTrote.esp NB-Scars.esp VWA_VanillaWarpaintsAbsolution.esp QuickShotBugFix.esp CrittersAintSnitches.esp EyesFix.esp Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge SSE.esp GIST soul trap.esp RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted - ESL - GIST.esp SmoothShores.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp Friendlier Taverns.esp AI Overhaul.esp Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul.esp Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp Hunterborn.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp hearthfireextended.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp Faction_Fixes_Vanilla.esp BetterQuestObjectives.esp BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp SimplyKnock.esp OBIS SE.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp SL Survival.esp WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp Point The Way.esp Oakwood.esp Thieves Guild Requirements.esp FurnitureMarkerSex.esp TheChoiceIsYours.esp Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp WayshrinesIFT.esp CFTO.esp Better Dynamic Ash.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp The Ancient Profession.esp EmbersHD.esp Oblivion Gates Remade.esp SimpleSlavery.esp SLSFFameComments.esp EFFDialogue.esp Bring Out Your Dead.esp Frostfall.esp Crossroads Inn.esp DeviousFollowers.esp Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp Elemental_Staffs.esp imp_helm_legend.esp ClavicusArgonianMasque.esp Hunters Not Bandits.esp Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp Faction_Fixes_Vanilla_AACEPatch.esp Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp Disease Descriptions.esp GoOnAhead.esp Improved Traps.esp Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp dD-No Screen Blood.esp ReasonableMovementSpeed.esp Torches Ignite Oil - Shock Edition.esp Snotgurg Simple Drop Lit Torches.esp BetterQuestObjectives - Wintersun Patch.esp BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp BetterQuestObjectives-EFFPatch.esp Helarchen Creek.esp BooksOfDibella.esp Triumvirate - Mage Archetypes.esp LADX_SSE.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp Landscape For Grass Mods - Oakwood PATCH.esp PilgrimsDelight.esp NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp HereWeGoAgain.esp TimingIsEverything.esp Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp iHUD.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp ViewableFactionRanks.esp The Ordinary Women.esp SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp HFE-CFTO-Patch.esp Oblivion Gates Remade - Mountain Texture with MM Shader.esp Cathedral Weathers.esp getSnowy.esp CathedralWeatherMCM.esp StormLightning.esp WondersofWeather.esp Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp Hunterborn_RealisticNeeds_Patch_GH56.esp imp_helm_legend_WACCF_Patch.esp TCIY BCS Patch.esp TCIY_CRF_Patch.esp TCIY_Wintersun_Patch.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 3BBB.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp GoToBed-Hunterborn-patch.esp GoToBed-RealisticNeedsandDiseases-patch.esp GoToBed.esp TavernAIFix.esp GatherWildernessResources.esp CheeryCraftingCampfire_r2.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Hunterborn Patch.esp (Pumpkin)-TEWOBA-TheExpandedWorldofBikiniArmor.esp TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp GirlHeavyArmor.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp Open Monk Robes.esp Open Monk Robes - Armor and Clothing Extension Patch.esp Lazman_Outfits.esp Warhammer Sorceress Robes.esp CrazyMagicianGlassRobe.esp CBBE Standalone Underwear.esp UNP Undies.esp Goddess.esp Whorecraft.esp sr_FillHerUp.esp Spank That Ass.esp HentaiCreatures.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp TS_Seraphina.esp Wintersun - SexLab Integration.esp WintersunSLI - DD expansion.esp CobaltAnimations.esp SOS - Leito Addon SE.esp SLSO.esp DragonPlateBrazen.esp SexLabDefeat.esp AnubAnimObj.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp Devious Devices For Him.esp Devious Devices - BRRF.esp Devious Devices SE patch.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SLPleasure.esp Animal_SOS.esp DW.esp Simply Knock - Tower Stone Fix.esp SlaveTats.esp PsycheAnimationObjects.esp BakaFactoryABC.esp SINful CBP.esp TrueDirectionalMovement.esp AttackBehaviorTweaks.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Shiva's Beautiful Presets.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp UIExtensions.esp OBody.esp Cutting Room Floor - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp WACCF - CRF Consistency Patch.esp RaceMenuHH.esp Spank That Ass - Butter And Animal Fat Balm.esp SLAnimLoader.esp Disease Descriptions - RND Patch.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Improved Traps Patch.esp Campfire - WACCF Patch.esp DX Gwelda Red Riding Hood Outfit - WACCF Patch.esp DX Tembtra Thief Outfit SSE - WACCF Patch.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - Hoth Patch.esp WACCF - USSEP Arch-Mage Consistency Patch.esp WACCF and ACE - USSEP Arch-Mage Consistency Patch.esp imp_helm_USSEP.esp imp_helm_Immersive_Armors.esp RBB - CFTO Patch.esp AI Overhaul - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp AI Overhaul - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - LFfGM.esp OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp HFE-CRF-Patch.esp RBB - Oakwood Patch.esp RosaFollower.esp RBB - USSEP Patch.esp WayshrinesIFT - Landscape and Water Fixes patch.esp Oblivion Gates Remade - Map Markers.esp MUPF.esp MUPF_Craft.esp Alissa_Follower.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp AOS_Cathedral Weathers Patch.esp Summermyst - WACCF Patch.esp AOS_EBT LITE Patch.esp Cozy Taverns Visual Overhaul.esp Cells CTD Fix.esp Bijin AIO.esp Bijin Wives.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp FacegenForKids.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp FNISSexyMove.esp FNISspells.esp Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp Trade & Barter.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp Smithing Perks Overhaul SE.esp BookCoversSkyrim_CCOR_Patch.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation_CCOR_Patch.esp CCOR_Campfire_Patch.esp Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - CACO.esp Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp ButterfliesUnchained.esp ButterfliesUnchained(ESL) - CACO Patch.esp Hunterborn_CACO-SE_Patch.esp CACO_Growl_Patch.esp CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp CACO_Wintersun.esp Bathing in Skyrim and Hunterborn - CACO.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Lock_Overhaul.esp Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp CCOR_Ordinator.esp Ordinator_WACCF_Patch.esp SPO_Ordinator_Patch.esp Odin - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp Bathing in Skyrim SE - Alternate Start.esp Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RW2RND.esp Step Skyrim SE - CR Patch.esp Step SkyrimSE - L&W Patch.esp Bathing in SSE - RWT.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Scarcity SE - Less Loot Mod.esp Scarcity SE - 4x Merchant Item Rarity.esp Scarcity SE - 6x Loot Rarity.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp Occlusion.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp I mostly just feel defeated. I just do not understand. And I really don't wanna rebuild. Again. I just want to play at this point.
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 You got a warning in fnis saying you got wrong version for spank that ass. I guess the SE version lies to fnis. I would try to disable it and rerun fnis just to be sure
Grey Cloud Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, BreadlyDud said: >Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_testpack_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<< Whatever that is from it is not meant for SE. This is LE tech support.
BreadlyDud Posted October 21, 2021 Author Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said: You got a warning in fnis saying you got wrong version for spank that ass. I guess the SE version lies to fnis. I would try to disable it and rerun fnis just to be sure Yeah It's a conversion so I don't think the animations are flagged properly. But I still get the same problem. 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: Whatever that is from it is not meant for SE. This is LE tech support. See above. I tried running it through Cathedral Asset Optimizer and it's telling me its SE compatible already.
Grey Cloud Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 37 minutes ago, BreadlyDud said: Yeah It's a conversion so I don't think the animations are flagged properly. But I still get the same problem. See above. I tried running it through Cathedral Asset Optimizer and it's telling me its SE compatible already. Does the T-pose go away if you remove that mod?
ttts1 Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 FYI - I'm running Spank That Ass fine in SE using the conversion posted on this site. Never had T Pose from it. No idea what the cause is but you're running a ton of mods and I don't know enough about compatibilities, load order, or overwrites to say much about it. I will say that SL Survival does have interactions with STA and the MCM mentions in several spots that using options in both at the same time may cause problems. I'm going off memory here, don't remember what those problems may be and no idea if it can cause a T Pose. But SL Survival does specifically mention STA several times regarding compatability options in the MCM. I'm running both mods fine but I check the MCM options before doing anything. Maybe some of the other mods can cause compatibility problems as well?
BreadlyDud Posted October 22, 2021 Author Posted October 22, 2021 4 hours ago, ttts1 said: FYI - I'm running Spank That Ass fine in SE using the conversion posted on this site. Never had T Pose from it. No idea what the cause is but you're running a ton of mods and I don't know enough about compatibilities, load order, or overwrites to say much about it. I will say that SL Survival does have interactions with STA and the MCM mentions in several spots that using options in both at the same time may cause problems. I'm going off memory here, don't remember what those problems may be and no idea if it can cause a T Pose. But SL Survival does specifically mention STA several times regarding compatability options in the MCM. I'm running both mods fine but I check the MCM options before doing anything. Maybe some of the other mods can cause compatibility problems as well? Well, thank you all for your time. At some point, it just kind of... stopped? FNIS stopped giving me errors. It was after fucking with the animation packs, so once again, careful testing fixes everything. Thanks again all.
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