F0xii Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 For whatever reason, for the past couple months whenever i start up a new game, my character's breasts are 'long' and stretched (as seen in the picture below). Luckily it can just be fixed with a simple game restart and loading the save. But I still don't know what could cause that.
F0xii Posted September 25, 2021 Author Posted September 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said: re-nstall XPMS(S)E nope, didn't help sadly.
ReverendFelix Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 Try running your outfits through Bodyslide maybe?
Pfiffy Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 Just now, ReverendFelix said: Try running your outfits through Bodyslide maybe? From the picture it seems like it is not the body but the clothes. Is it specific for only the prisoner Tunic?
Nagib Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, F0xiiNat0r said: For whatever reason, for the past couple months whenever i start up a new game, my character's breasts are 'long' and stretched (as seen in the picture below). Luckily it can just be fixed with a simple game restart and loading the save. But I still don't know what could cause that. Might that be a Tera Elin race from arca? After I updated mine to the latest version, it stopped happening completely.
ReverendFelix Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 56 minutes ago, Pfiffy said: 1 hour ago, ReverendFelix said: Try running your outfits through Bodyslide maybe? From the picture it seems like it is not the body but the clothes. Is it specific for only the prisoner Tunic? That's exactly what I noticed. Definitely a outfit problem. It is possible to have mismatched body/outfit set ups. I learned that the hard way while trying to change an outfits body to a different one. You get some weird results if done wrong. So, maybe one of your mods has this issue embedded. Try this, drop the outfit on the ground then open the console and click on the outfit to get it's ID. You can the take this ID into SSEEdit to find the offending mod. If it is a mod that is... But really, my original suggestion stands. It will at least rule that out. Edit; Question, do you have physics enabled? And if so, do the boobs and outfit move in sync?
anjenthedog Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 I see that when a) the reference body used in an outfit is for a different body type (ex: ref is CBBE, I'm CBBE-3BBB), or b) when I haven't fitted the armor/clothing yet.
F0xii Posted September 25, 2021 Author Posted September 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Pfiffy said: From the picture it seems like it is not the body but the clothes. Is it specific for only the prisoner Tunic? It happens without clothing too. And as I said the only "fix" I found is just restarting the game and loading the save. 1 hour ago, Nagib said: Might that be a Tera Elin race from arca? After I updated mine to the latest version, it stopped happening completely. and nope, just default Nord race. ? I am using CBBE 3BA btw.
Nagib Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, F0xiiNat0r said: It happens without clothing too. And as I said the only "fix" I found is just restarting the game and loading the save. and nope, just default Nord race. ? I am using CBBE 3BA btw. I also use CBBE 3BA (with Elins option checked during installation) and it constantly happened with Elins and reload (quit and full game reload) was also the only fix for me. I will also note that I used BodyGen feature (.tri files) of RaceMenu, which I later replaced with oBody (also .tri files) method. Could it be the skeleton as others say? Does XPMSSE skeleton overwrite everything in your load order? Do 3BA meshes overwrite everything in your load order? Just out of the interest, can you try disabling bodyslide generated meshes and check if it still happens when they don't overwrite 3BA in your load order?
F0xii Posted September 25, 2021 Author Posted September 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Nagib said: I also use CBBE 3BA (with Elins option checked during installation) and it constantly happened with Elins and reload (quit and full game reload) was also the only fix for me. I will also note that I used BodyGen feature (.tri files) of RaceMenu, which I later replaced with oBody (also .tri files) method. Could it be the skeleton as others say? Does XPMSSE skeleton overwrite everything in your load order? Do 3BA meshes overwrite everything in your load order? Just out of the interest, can you try disabling bodyslide generated meshes and check if it still happens when they don't overwrite 3BA in your load order? Yes, I have XPMSSE at the very bottom of my load order to normally avoid all conflicts Yes, they should overwrite everything as well. And for the last thing, i've tried that now and the result is: When starting a new game, the Prisoner outfit is default body (as expected) and when naked only the body itself had the issue now.
Shadowbroker3495 Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 A plugin list would be helpful to pinpoint possible causes. You are using CBBE 3BA and no BHUNP body mod? (just eliminate that possiblity) You built Amazing Body and PC collision detection cloak in BodySlide?
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Vanilla Nights patch, 20% darker.esp *FNIS.esp *DisableCinematicKills.esp *Better Dynamic Snow - Snowy Farmhouses.esp *Better Dynamic Snow.esp *Realistic Natural Skin Tones.esp *Daedric_Pei.esp *No Cheese Weight.esp *TW3 Triss Gown.esp *SensibleBribes.esp *BDOR Rosa Cassius.esp *JK's Riverwood Trader.esp *Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp *MoreDeviousStarts.esp *High Poly NPC Overhaul - Alternate Start Live Another Life (ASLAL).esp *SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp *Sidequests of Skyrim.esp *XPMSE.esp *PAN_NPCs_DG.esp *PAN_NPCs_DB.esp *PAN_NPCs_Males2.esp *PAN_Serana.esp *College of Winterhold Re-Imagined.esp *Bijin AIO.esp A decent amount of these are obviously ESL-flagged, which is why there's so many esp's lol And it has been organized by LOOT too.
Shadowbroker3495 Posted September 26, 2021 Posted September 26, 2021 Yeah, quite a collection of mods you have there. Not sure if plugin list is sorted by load order, but CBBE mod should load before 3BBB mod. I assume you have installed all other required mods for CBBE 3BA? You are not using any dedicated inflation mods so breast size shouldn't change. Don't remember if Cursed Loot mod has that functionality (it's like an AIO mod). Otherwise the only way for breast size to change, is if body weight is changed in Racemenu or any other body config mod like that. It really looks like a BodySlide issue. Like no TRI file was created for body via batch build. Maybe try to make a new profile in MO and make a very small basic mod build to verify, if that solves problem. If it does, then unfortunately you have a lot of debugging to do, to find the mod causing the problem. ------------------------- Note that while LOOT is good, it is not perfect. Too many Skyrim mods available on internet for LOOT to know how to to sort them all properly. You should handle mod load order manually. Try to find some load order guides. Just an observation. Celes Rogue Armor UNP.esp is not needed when you have Celes Rogue Armor CBBE.esp and using CBBE body.
anjenthedog Posted September 26, 2021 Posted September 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Shadowbroker3495 said: Not sure if plugin list is sorted by load order, but CBBE mod should load before 3BBB mod. I assume you have installed all other required mods for CBBE 3BA? Can't say for MO2, but if the OP is using Vortex, I'd note that Vortex recommends loading 3BBB before CBBE. And ftr, I've had it this way the whole time and it works just fine. Spoiler
F0xii Posted September 26, 2021 Author Posted September 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Shadowbroker3495 said: Not sure if plugin list is sorted by load order, but CBBE mod should load before 3BBB mod. I assume you have installed all other required mods for CBBE 3BA? I did not even realize CBBE was loading after 3BBB, which makes no sense cause I thought LOOT would auto sort cbbe to load before 3BBB, but yea true I guess it's not perfect lol I'll try changing it and seeing if the issue persists. 4 hours ago, Shadowbroker3495 said: Celes Rogue Armor UNP.esp is not needed when you have Celes Rogue Armor CBBE.esp and using CBBE body. and also good to know, thanks
Back2friday Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 18 hours ago, anjenthedog said: Can't say for MO2, but if the OP is using Vortex, I'd note that Vortex recommends loading 3BBB before CBBE. And ftr, I've had it this way the whole time and it works just fine. Reveal hidden contents I can not remember Vortex asking me this, but i also got 3bbb before cbbe in load order and works just fine. Of course i did install 3bbb after cbbe.
Back2friday Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 I think this is a bodyslide issue where you probably selected something wrong. I use 3bbb body with cbpc option, but in bodyslide, i edited the sliders on the normal cbbe body preset, not the amazing body. On batch build is where i selected the 3bbb body output. I can not remember why i did it like this, but had something to do with a clothing mod. I remember in FO4, whenever starting a new game, the cbp physics doesnt work untill reloading a save. So it could be probably nothing to worry about.
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