donttouchmethere Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Cursed Atelier said: Yes, I have SKSE installed and I'm only starting it over that. and you also have a skse.ini created? if not it might be a memory issue
Tlam99 Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 Hm, guess ini files ok, right gpu selected (not the possibly onboard) Bethini would be a good thing to have the prerequisites in order. All this sounds more and more like a memory problem.
Cursed Atelier Posted August 19, 2021 Author Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, donttouchmethere said: and you also have a skse.ini created? if not it might be a memory issue Yes. However, I have not set up any memory in the skse.ini. I have in "CrashFixPlugin: CustomMemoryBlockTotalSizeMb=256" and in the ENBLocal.ini "ReservedMemorySizeMb=256" In the game when I have the console open, the block doesn't go higher than 29% on populated areas.
Cursed Atelier Posted August 19, 2021 Author Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, T-lam said: Hm, guess ini files ok, right gpu selected (not the possibly onboard) Bethini would be a good thing to have the prerequisites in order. All this sounds more and more like a memory problem. The GPU the game is running from is a GTX 1080TI.
Tlam99 Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 Should be 768 at least As touchme mentioned, set in skse.ini
Cursed Atelier Posted August 19, 2021 Author Posted August 19, 2021 Okay, so I made changes to the SKSE.ini file: Spoiler [General] ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 EnableDiagnostics=1 [Display] iTintTextureResolution=2048 [Memory] defaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024 scrapHeapSizeMB=256 I removed animations and got it to 8823 character animations: Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL 19.08.2021 21:18:18 Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading 3jiou V1.0 ... ChAnims:444 CTD:2.3% pOpt:0.4% Reading BaboAnimation V5 ... ChAnims:56 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.3% Reading BaboHorribleHarassment V5 ... ChAnims:41 CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.3% Reading DD V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:725(576) CTD:13.1% pOpt:1.0% Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:374(374) CTD:10.8% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: DD2 has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ... ChAnims:119(119) CTD:2.9% pOpt:0.0% Reading DDC V1.2 ... ChAnims:58 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.2% Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:410 CTD:2.8% pOpt:0.9% Reading DeviousFollowers V1.00 ... ChAnims:34(34) CTD:1.3% pOpt:0.0% Reading DF_Spank V1.0 ... ChAnims:70 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.1% Reading EstrusChaurus V4.35 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading Fillherup V5 ... ChAnims:25 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading FNISBase V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading milkypack V1.0 ... ChAnims:468 CTD:2.9% pOpt:0.7% Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... ChAnims:344 CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.6% Reading Nade_HumanWashing V1.0 ... ChAnims:33 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading NakedDefeat V1.0 ... ChAnims:5 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:132 CTD:0.8% pOpt:0.2% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... ChAnims:16 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading NibblesAnims_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:284 CTD:1.7% pOpt:0.4% Reading NibblesAnims_Object V1.0 ... ChAnims:153 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading ProxyAnims V1.0 ... ChAnims:48 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading PsycheAnimation V1.0 ... ChAnims:259 CTD:1.6% pOpt:0.4% Reading PsycheCreature V1.0 ... ChAnims:101 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.2% Reading RRTheFacility V0.70 ... ChAnims:15 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading RydinAnimationPack >>Warning: Inconsistent mod RydinAnimationPack. Number of animations differs between FNIS List (39) and corresponding behavior file (33)<< V0.5 ... ChAnims:39 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading SexLab V1.62 ... ChAnims:1025 CTD:6.5% pOpt:1.7% Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... ChAnims:178 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ... ChAnims:24 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading SpankThatAss V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:2 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ... ChAnims:23 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading Suke V1.0 ... ChAnims:40 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading testpack V1.0 ... ChAnims:294 CTD:1.7% pOpt:0.4% Reading Toys V1.1 ... ChAnims:312(226) CTD:5.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading TStory V0.91 ... ChAnims:18 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading Virgin V8.06 ... ChAnims:381(27) CTD:3.6% pOpt:0.6% Reading XPMSE V7.2 ... ChAnims:164(164) CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ... ChAnims:1669 CTD:7.9% pOpt:0.1% Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ... ChAnims:42 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading znarokspack V1.0 ... ChAnims:61 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.1% Reading zzEstrus >>Warning: Inconsistent mod zzEstrus. Number of animations differs between FNIS List (324) and corresponding behavior file (312)<< V2.50 ... ChAnims:337(12) CTD:3.8% pOpt:0.2% All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... No GENDER directory male 10 GENDER modifications for Animations\female Alternate Animation mods: 8 sets: 69 total groups: 252 added file slots: 1928 alternate files: 1532 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... Reading PsycheCreature V1.0 ... Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ... Reading Virgin V1.00 ... Reading RydinAnimationPack V1.0 ... Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ... Reading BaboHorribleHarassmentCreature V1.0 ... 8823 animations for 42 mods successfully included (character). ChAnims: 8823 CTD:76.1% pOpt:10.0% max: 11591 LC: 19915 (max. 26162) 1403 animations for 10 mods and 38 creatures successfully included.. 2 Warning(s). I stayed in the alternate start cell, waited until all the mods are installed. Installed SL > Creature Animations> Save > Load (It crashed again.) None of the other saves are loadable either.
donttouchmethere Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Cursed Atelier said: I stayed in the alternate start cell, waited until all the mods are installed. Installed SL > Creature Animations> Save > Load (It crashed again.) Alright, run FNIS again and click also the consistence check, because: 2 minutes ago, Cursed Atelier said: 2 Warning(s). 3 minutes ago, Cursed Atelier said: Reading zzEstrus >>Warning: Inconsistent mod zzEstrus. Number of animations differs between FNIS List (324) and corresponding behavior file (312)<< seeing this, use EstrusForSkyrimV241r1 with estrus+ if you didn't already
alex77r4 Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cursed Atelier said: I stayed in the alternate start cell, waited until all the mods are installed. Installed SL > Creature Animations> Save > Load (It crashed again.) Take a look again to your papyrus0.log If you continue having 100k lines of errors something is bad installed in your game. And 100k errors in the papyrus0.log can not have any relation to memory problems or GPU overload or animations or reference counts or any other imaginal things that people can say.
donttouchmethere Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 and T-lam pointed out an important thingy: if your Skyrim.ini and skyrimpref.ini aren't setup correct you can get various CTD too run bethini to optimize your settings it worked wonders for me already
Tlam99 Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, alex77r4 said: nd 100k errors in the papyrus0.log can not have any relation to memory problems This is true, but on the other hand the basics become in order.
donttouchmethere Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, alex77r4 said: Take a look again to your papyrus0.log If you continue having 100k lines of errors something is bad installed in your game. And 100k errors in the papyrus0.log can not have any relation to memory problems or GPU overload or animations or reference counts or any other imaginal things that people can say. exclusion procedure Mr. imaginal
Cursed Atelier Posted August 19, 2021 Author Posted August 19, 2021 Ran FNIS again, fixed one of the errors. Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL 19.08.2021 21:41:56 Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading 3jiou V1.0 ... ChAnims:444 CTD:2.3% pOpt:0.4% Reading BaboAnimation V5 ... ChAnims:56 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.3% Reading BaboHorribleHarassment V5 ... ChAnims:41 CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.3% Reading DD V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:725(576) CTD:13.1% pOpt:1.0% Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:374(374) CTD:10.8% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: DD2 has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ... ChAnims:119(119) CTD:2.9% pOpt:0.0% Reading DDC V1.2 ... ChAnims:58 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.2% Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:410 CTD:2.8% pOpt:0.9% Reading DeviousFollowers V1.00 ... ChAnims:34(34) CTD:1.3% pOpt:0.0% Reading DF_Spank V1.0 ... ChAnims:70 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.1% Reading EstrusChaurus V4.35 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading Fillherup V5 ... ChAnims:25 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading FNISBase V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading milkypack V1.0 ... ChAnims:468 CTD:2.9% pOpt:0.7% Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... ChAnims:344 CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.6% Reading Nade_HumanWashing V1.0 ... ChAnims:33 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading NakedDefeat V1.0 ... ChAnims:5 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:132 CTD:0.8% pOpt:0.2% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... ChAnims:16 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading NibblesAnims_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:284 CTD:1.7% pOpt:0.4% Reading NibblesAnims_Object V1.0 ... ChAnims:153 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading ProxyAnims V1.0 ... ChAnims:48 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading PsycheAnimation V1.0 ... ChAnims:259 CTD:1.6% pOpt:0.4% Reading PsycheCreature V1.0 ... ChAnims:101 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.2% Reading RRTheFacility V0.70 ... ChAnims:15 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading RydinAnimationPack >>Warning: Inconsistent mod RydinAnimationPack. Number of animations differs between FNIS List (39) and corresponding behavior file (33)<< V0.5 ... ChAnims:39 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading SexLab V1.62 ... ChAnims:1025 CTD:6.5% pOpt:1.7% Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... ChAnims:178 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ... ChAnims:24 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading SpankThatAss V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:2 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ... ChAnims:23 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading Suke V1.0 ... ChAnims:40 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading testpack V1.0 ... ChAnims:294 CTD:1.7% pOpt:0.4% Reading Toys V1.1 ... ChAnims:312(226) CTD:5.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading TStory V0.91 ... ChAnims:18 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading Virgin V8.06 ... ChAnims:381(27) CTD:3.6% pOpt:0.6% Reading XPMSE V7.2 ... ChAnims:164(164) CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ... ChAnims:1669 CTD:7.9% pOpt:0.1% Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ... ChAnims:42 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading znarokspack V1.0 ... ChAnims:61 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.1% Reading zzEstrus V2.30 ... ChAnims:254(12) CTD:3.4% pOpt:0.2% All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... No GENDER directory male 10 GENDER modifications for Animations\female Alternate Animation mods: 8 sets: 69 total groups: 252 added file slots: 1928 alternate files: 1532 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... Reading PsycheCreature V1.0 ... Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ... Reading Virgin V1.00 ... Reading RydinAnimationPack V1.0 ... Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ... Reading BaboHorribleHarassmentCreature V1.0 ... 8740 animations for 42 mods successfully included (character). ChAnims: 8740 CTD:75.8% pOpt:10.0% max: 11531 LC: 19829 (max. 26162) 1403 animations for 10 mods and 38 creatures successfully included.. 1 Warning(s). Missing AnimFile rydin_xcross_aggressive_anal_a1_s1.hkx for character, mod RydinAnimationPack Missing AnimFile rydin_xcross_aggressive_anal_a1_s2.hkx for character, mod RydinAnimationPack Missing AnimFile rydin_xcross_aggressive_anal_a2_s1.hkx for character, mod RydinAnimationPack Missing AnimFile rydin_xcross_aggressive_anal_a2_s2.hkx for character, mod RydinAnimationPack Missing AnimFile rydin_draugr_aggressive_jockey_anal_a1_s1.hkx for character, mod RydinAnimationPack Missing AnimFile rydin_draugr_aggressive_jockey_anal_a1_s2.hkx for character, mod RydinAnimationPack Missing AnimFile rydin_draugr_aggressive_jockey_anal_a2_s1.hkx for draugr, mod RydinAnimationPack Missing AnimFile rydin_draugr_aggressive_jockey_anal_a2_s2.hkx for draugr, mod RydinAnimationPack 8 possible consistence issues I also ran bethini, sadly the outcome is the same. I made yesterday a backup of the whole build before I started to install LL mods. I could restore that and see if the same issues are there as well.
donttouchmethere Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, Cursed Atelier said: >>Warning: Inconsistent mod RydinAnimationPack. Number of animations differs between FNIS List (39) and corresponding behavior file (33)<< you can remove the Rydin pack, it's rather bugged. You can get the animations also from Devious Followers Mini SLAL pack. Seeing your papyrus log there are additional issues. > If you install with NMM you have to decide during installation what gets overwritten. > Deactivating mods with NMM is not the same as uninstall them. If you don't use a mod make sure you uninstall instead of deactivate. What could probably happen: > you overwrote DD 5.1 esm files with ZAP. Also better move ZAP above DD.esm plugins in LO > you overwrote XPMSE with something other than MNC/ABC during installation > you installed odd vanilla animation replacers we can't see with in the LO and FNIS output
Cursed Atelier Posted August 19, 2021 Author Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, donttouchmethere said: you can remove the Rydin pack, it's rather bugged. You can get the animations also from Devious Followers Mini SLAL pack. Seeing your papyrus log there are additional issues. > If you install with NMM you have to decide during installation what gets overwritten. > Deactivating mods with NMM is not the same as uninstall them. If you don't use a mod make sure you uninstall instead of deactivate. What could probably happen: > you overwrote DD 5.1 esm files with ZAP. Also better move ZAP above DD.esm pligins in LO > you overwrote XPMSE with something other than MNC/ABC during installation > you installed odd animation replacers we can't see with in the LO and FNIS output Okay, I will uninstall all the mods since I finished the graphic setup and try to load again, I will post a message here if it worked or not. Or would you recommend starting completely from scratch again?
donttouchmethere Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Cursed Atelier said: Or would you recommend starting completely from scratch again? The drawback of NMM is you need to remember what you overwrite and why. So if you aren't sure anymore what you overwrote you might need to start again from scratch. Before you do anything else get a stable setup with sexlab/MNC and the devious frameworks. After that you have done the hardest part and you can add more mods. That way you know that some mod you added makes issues and you don't have to guess if the base setup is already defect. You can also check my blog, the mods listed there for a basic install are in the same order as if I would install them with NMM. You don't need all of them and DD 5.1 includes now all you need for DD. But maybe it helps to get Sexlab setup correctly do the right overwrites and add the needed additional scripts like PapyrusUtil, Jcontainers...
Cursed Atelier Posted August 20, 2021 Author Posted August 20, 2021 20 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: The drawback of NMM is you need to remember what you overwrite and why. So if you aren't sure anymore what you overwrote you might need to start again from scratch. Before you do anything else get a stable setup with sexlab/MNC and the devious frameworks. After that you have done the hardest part and you can add more mods. That way you know that some mod you added makes issues and you don't have to guess if the base setup is already defect. You can also check my blog, the mods listed there for a basic install are in the same order as if I would install them with NMM. You don't need all of them and DD 5.1 includes now all you need for DD. But maybe it helps to get Sexlab setup correctly do the right overwrites and add the needed additional scripts like PapyrusUtil, Jcontainers... Hey, I followed the guide, including what to overwrite and what not. I moved the game from the C program files to a different harddrive including NMM. The only thing that I did different is to install DD 5.1 instead of the 3 seperate archives. I got to the end of the second blog and decided to test it. I used BethIni to optimize the files. Followed the tweaks in your blog for the SKSE file/CrashBugFix and Enblocal. FNIS gives me no errors from what I can see, so that is good. Loadorder is probably a mess. The game now crashes on new game, I tried around 3 times, with the same outcome. I sorted the loadorder with Loot, also the same outcome. Checked the papyrus.log, and I noticed the same behavior Alex77r4 pointed out. Either I'm doing something terrible wrong, or maybe something with NMM is wrong. Because I can't do more than add the mod file to NMM and click on install. FNIS.txt LoadOrder_Skyrim_2021-08-20T19-28-55.txt Papyrus.1.log Papyrus.2.log Papyrus.0.log
alex77r4 Posted August 20, 2021 Posted August 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, Cursed Atelier said: Checked the papyrus.log, and I noticed the same behavior Alex77r4 pointed out. Either I'm doing something terrible wrong, or maybe something with NMM is wrong. Because I can't do more than add the mod file to NMM and click on install. Do you have admin rights in your machine? Do you get any error from NMM when install the mods? My only explanation is that you are using a limited user and NMM can't install the mods.
Cursed Atelier Posted August 20, 2021 Author Posted August 20, 2021 Just now, alex77r4 said: Do you have admin rights in your machine? Do you get any error from NMM when install the mods? My only explanation is that you are using a limited user and NMM can't install the mods. Yes, I have admin rights, it's only one user on the machine. I also opened NMM with administrator. I didn't get a single error or warning from NMM.
Tlam99 Posted August 20, 2021 Posted August 20, 2021 There is another option, one can extend the load time. From 2 sec to 5 or longer until everything has settled.
Cursed Atelier Posted August 20, 2021 Author Posted August 20, 2021 Just now, T-lam said: There is another option, one can extend the load time. From 2 sec to 5 or longer until everything has settled. How can I extend the load time, if it CTD on the start of the loading? I'm open to anything I could possible do haha
alex77r4 Posted August 20, 2021 Posted August 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, Cursed Atelier said: Yes, I have admin rights, it's only one user on the machine. I also opened NMM with administrator. I didn't get a single error or warning from NMM. What version of aroused are you using??? Yours 60k errors show because you miss the scripts but aroused is a requirement for DD and another lot of mods. Try replacing your Aroused version with the default version. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/37652-sexlab-aroused-redux-december-05-2016/
Cursed Atelier Posted August 20, 2021 Author Posted August 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, alex77r4 said: What version of aroused are you using??? Yours 60k errors show because you miss the scripts but aroused is a requirement for DD and another lot of mods. Try replacing your Aroused version with the default version. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/37652-sexlab-aroused-redux-december-05-2016/ I'm using "SexlabAroused Extended LE Baka Edited Version 28b (2020 11 17)" And I will give the default version a shot and see what happens. For the Anti Virus, the only one active is MalewareBytes.
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