Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Moschruum]

5 hours ago, pihwht said:

Did you turn off 470 before replacing it with 480?

turn it off in the MCM? yes

[no_way]

Any way to control what slots your followers strip off after defeat starts?  It's not respecting the sexlab restrictions so they get left with just shoulder pads in one case and just thigh pads in the other.  Looks pretty silly hehe

 

[Nymra]

On 8/15/2022 at 7:23 PM, Moschruum said:

i'm trying to update from 4.70 to 4.81, whenever i disable 4.70 and enable 4.80+4.81 patch, all saves become corrupted and cannot be loaded, but when i disable 4.80+4.81 patch and bring back 4.70, all saves are loadable without issue

 

replace all 4.70 files with the new ones and THEN start the game. Do NOT remove 4.70, start game, save game close and then install 4.80 or sth like that.

in other words: follow the update routine to the point and this should not happen. 

 

EDIT: also do you use a mod manager?

I mean a real one like MO2?

you could also try to use a different save for installing the new version. skyrim can be strange sometimes. 

EDIT2: also also did you install the form 44 esp with the 4.81? 

Edited August 17, 2022 by Nymra

[Nymra]

14 hours ago, no_way said:

Any way to control what slots your followers strip off after defeat starts?  It's not respecting the sexlab restrictions so they get left with just shoulder pads in one case and just thigh pads in the other.  Looks pretty silly hehe

 

at the moment I just remove the obvious slots. I want to add a more elaborate stripping system in the future, but yeah... well.. long list already and I have no the time for scripting that I need atm... plus the heat in my flat makes working hard  

 

[Moschruum]

3 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

EDIT: also do you use a mod manager?

I mean a real one like MO2?

 

is vortex real?

 

3 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

EDIT2: also also did you install the form 44 esp with the 4.81? 

the what
edit: ok i got it, i just slap it in the 4.81 file?

Edited August 17, 2022 by Moschruum

[duy123a]

Hello, is there a CBBE (3BA) bodyslide for the Fuckbelt, or an option for not using it?

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, Moschruum said:

is vortex real?

 

no  

 

3 hours ago, Moschruum said:

the what
edit: ok i got it, i just slap it in the 4.81 file?

 

it was a question with the form 44. 

Till now I never had a report that updating corrupted save files so I just asume you did something wrong during the update procedure.

 

using the Form 44 might be a solution, but if updating correctly fixes the problem also I just would like to know

[Moschruum]

3 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

no  

 

 

it was a question with the form 44. 

Till now I never had a report that updating corrupted save files so I just asume you did something wrong during the update procedure.

 

using the Form 44 might be a solution, but if updating correctly fixes the problem also I just would like to know

i just can't figure out how i would fuck it up, all im doing is disabling 470, then enabling 480 and 481. i've even tried enabling just 480 and it still wouldnt load the save

i copied the form 44 into my data folder as well with no success

 

[Nymra]

38 minutes ago, Moschruum said:

i just can't figure out how i would fuck it up, all im doing is disabling 470, then enabling 480 and 481. i've even tried enabling just 480 and it still wouldnt load the save

i copied the form 44 into my data folder as well with no success

 

 

do you do this?:
 

0. leave Naked Defeat enabled

1. save game

2. leave game

3. remove 4.70 in your Vortex thingy

4. add 4.81 in your Vortex thingy

5. load save

6. disable Naked Defeat

7. save and reload

8. enable Naked Defeat

 

disabling Naked Defeat is NOT necessary BEFORE the update, just AFTER installing the new version you need to disable/enable ND in MCM

[Guest]

Request guidance on Beta  features in ND.  Really want to try the Chest looting beta options.  Prefer not loading 3-5 mods to get devious looting in chests.  This is not the question but I can't understand the Beta armor option which would be activated at the same time.  I save outfits (clothing, armor lite and heavy) in the ND MCM but after a SL scene, my armor gets equipped and immediately destroyed.  Simple instructions please.

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, tjse4ever said:

Request guidance on Beta  features in ND.  Really want to try the Chest looting beta options.  Prefer not loading 3-5 mods to get devious looting in chests.  This is not the question but I can't understand the Beta armor option which would be activated at the same time.  I save outfits (clothing, armor lite and heavy) in the ND MCM but after a SL scene, my armor gets equipped and immediately destroyed.  Simple instructions please.

 

there is no chest looting yet. meaning no trapped chests like in Deviously Enchanted Chests. 
I started working on it but then postponed it.

 

For the BETA Armor option:

 

you can only equip outfits savely in player homes or vendor shops.

outside of those locations there is only a small chance that an item "fits"

 

if you save an outfit, you can only equip items that are part of that outfit or it will make a "fitting" check

 

so if you have Armor A and you are in a home, you save the outfit.

 

If you then get stripped of armor A (but its not destroyed) you can still re equip Armor A from your inventory.

 

ALSO when you find a body armor that has the same type as Armor A AND it fits on your body, you will automatically equip Armor A from your saved outfit instead.

 

Basically this wants to achieve 3 things:

 

1. looting armor will be much harder (both from chests and from corpses)

2. benefit from sucessfull looting is much higher, since you will equip a whole saved outfit of yours

3. you will always run either naked (which is nice) or with your desired saved outfits.

 

if this is not behaving like this there might be a bug tho. but for me it worked.

[Guest]

Perfectly explained.  Can't wait to try it.  Thank you.

[Guest]

Unusual crash or at least rare for me.   Included are the Papyrus log and a "crash log" from a mod called crash logger.  I was walking through Whiterun and stopped to speak to Amren (sp) about getting his fathers sword when it crashed.  No activations of any kind from any mod and not in combat.  I have not crashed in  Whiterun for many months which made it unusual.  I had just come from Bleak Falls Barrow where I had been defeated and inflated to the max (Fill Her UP).  Public punishment was enabled in ND.  Main question is not about ND which shows to be the last entry in Papyrus but rather the preceding issues. I believe there is a problem with some of the mods I use.  If ND is not the issue, please suggest which mod or mods may be impacting the game.  ND is the only must have mod for me.  The Crash Log file has my plugin list along with the skse mod list.  I have tried to research and received feedback not to use Wet Function Redux due to script load as an example.  I am probably using many that I should not be.  I am playing Skyrim AE now and still working through what I should use and what to get rid of.  Thanks for your time. 

crash-2022-08-20-19-04-14.log Papyrus.1.log

[Nymra]

18 hours ago, tjse4ever said:

Unusual crash or at least rare for me.   Included are the Papyrus log and a "crash log" from a mod called crash logger.  I was walking through Whiterun and stopped to speak to Amren (sp) about getting his fathers sword when it crashed.  No activations of any kind from any mod and not in combat.  I have not crashed in  Whiterun for many months which made it unusual.  I had just come from Bleak Falls Barrow where I had been defeated and inflated to the max (Fill Her UP).  Public punishment was enabled in ND.  Main question is not about ND which shows to be the last entry in Papyrus but rather the preceding issues. I believe there is a problem with some of the mods I use.  If ND is not the issue, please suggest which mod or mods may be impacting the game.  ND is the only must have mod for me.  The Crash Log file has my plugin list along with the skse mod list.  I have tried to research and received feedback not to use Wet Function Redux due to script load as an example.  I am probably using many that I should not be.  I am playing Skyrim AE now and still working through what I should use and what to get rid of.  Thanks for your time. 

crash-2022-08-20-19-04-14.log 45.03 kB · 0 downloads Papyrus.1.log 2.87 MB · 0 downloads

 

I can only work with the papyrus log. 
the only unusual behaviour I see in the log is from Public Whore. If you have persisent CTDs in cities you could try to remove that mod or disable it to see if it is related.

 

Wet Function should be fine, I use it forever. If possible you could search for "tick/update" timers in your mods mcms and make them tick slower (not as many updates and hence less papyrus load).

 

In general CTDs can happen from anything anytime. To bugfix such a thing you need to reproduce it. So you need to recreate the situation in whiterun and if the CTD happens again reliably, then you can start to work on fixing it. Otherwise its just a waste of time.

 

your log has no spam, no error stack and no stack dumps, so at least nothing harmfull there.

but the log is long, so maybe skyrim just crashed because it worked for too long

 

 

[Guest]

Thank you.   Truly wanted your opinion and the analysis at the end was priceless.  Concerned about some of the mods.  I did ruin this playthrough by messing with the Rape Tats pex file.  It will not work properly.  Since reloading all mods, all tats show as excluded and will not except changes.  Remained excluded.  Whatever I did messing with it, can't save now.  Instant crash.  Ok as I like working to perfect the mod list.  Heard this from other modders on SE.  Will work on it.  PW will be removed and we will keep trying.   Thanks again. 

[Suke23]

Hey Nymra not sure if this has been asked yet but is it possible to separate captures between humans and beasts. just so you aren't strung up after say a wolf has sex with you?

[Nymra]

9 hours ago, Suke23 said:

Hey Nymra not sure if this has been asked yet but is it possible to separate captures between humans and beasts. just so you aren't strung up after say a wolf has sex with you?

 

you should not get bound when wolves capture you.

can you send a papyrus.log of the situation happening?

 

in some cases nearby humans can "join" in but this should only happen with civilian creatures like dogs or horses. Wolves might be an accidental exception

[ungodlytomato]

regarding the delay issues it could be that AE is just slower than LE unfortunately https://old.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/wupg1j/papyrus_engine_is_400_times_slower_on_ae_than_le/

Edited August 22, 2022 by ungodlytomato

[kaydens1234]

Would be cool if the simple slavery outcome has an skip option once you are on the furniture again similar to the prison, in the end you lose skill points based on your selling price, and spawn at a random place with a pop up description that someone rescued you (inn),  discarded, resold to a benefactor (default) , escaped etc

It prevents repetition from regular defeat and let the player get on with the recovery, losing your inventory at the auction and skill loss is punishing enough imo. 

[Nymra]

2 hours ago, kaydens1234 said:

Would be cool if the simple slavery outcome has an skip option once you are on the furniture again similar to the prison, in the end you lose skill points based on your selling price, and spawn at a random place with a pop up description that someone rescued you (inn),  discarded, resold to a benefactor (default) , escaped etc

It prevents repetition from regular defeat and let the player get on with the recovery, losing your inventory at the auction and skill loss is punishing enough imo. 

 

I dont think I fully understand what you are asking for. when and what do you want to skip? the slave auction? because that is part of the Simple Slavery mod, not naked defeat.

 

the one thing I can say is, that neither pop up descriptions (telling) nor skill loss will ever be part of this mod. 

 

[SexyTop69]

On 8/21/2022 at 11:50 AM, Nymra said:

 

I can only work with the papyrus log. 
the only unusual behaviour I see in the log is from Public Whore. If you have persisent CTDs in cities you could try to remove that mod or disable it to see if it is related.

 

Wet Function should be fine, I use it forever. If possible you could search for "tick/update" timers in your mods mcms and make them tick slower (not as many updates and hence less papyrus load).

 

In general CTDs can happen from anything anytime. To bugfix such a thing you need to reproduce it. So you need to recreate the situation in whiterun and if the CTD happens again reliably, then you can start to work on fixing it. Otherwise its just a waste of time.

 

your log has no spam, no error stack and no stack dumps, so at least nothing harmfull there.

but the log is long, so maybe skyrim just crashed because it worked for too long

 

 

 

I agree with this, sometimes the game is just durpe like that. If you can try to repeat the bug and see what happens. For instance for me every time I would get restrained in ND I would crash, at first I thought it was script overload or something, I found out that mesh files overriding ZaZ pussy squirts was causing the issues when I repeated an capture scene ingame so I removed those mesh files and it worked, didn't CTD anymore.

[Kanjo]

Just asking for clarify. When defeat robbery triggers, assaulters will steale only equipped gear that not blocked in Bodyslot: Library? All other things like potions/ingridients/misc/other equipment that not used in moment of defeat remain untuched?

Edited August 24, 2022 by Kanjo

[monty359]

Hi @Nymra

 

I do not know, if you are aware of the mod framework Toys&Love and the mods designed to work with it.

Well, it is a framework, comparable to SexLab, but modern and fast. Here you can read about the differences to SL.

 

Would you consider to make your mod compatible with Toys&love framework? The mod creator made a detailed guide for adaption of the framework by modders. She claims it is easy, I am not a coder, so i ha no idea what qualify as easy and what not.

 

thanks

[Sylva4Q]

I really love this mod! Especially dropping or breaking armor when hit by enemy. I wish if the player blocks the attack it wouldn't activate that. Do you have any plans for those??

[Nymra]

8 hours ago, Kanjo said:

Just asking for clarify. When defeat robbery triggers, assaulters will steale only equipped gear that not blocked in Bodyslot: Library? All other things like potions/ingridients/misc/other equipment that not used in moment of defeat remain untuched?

 

they steal everything worn or in inventory except stuff blocked in the MCM.