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Arilia

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crusher

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ah, thought seduced by demigod = brainwashing (denial of free will) and being considered nothing more than a pet, but in this context it means inspired by awe and power, and of course sexual bliss.

 

Answer: Nothing and Perspective. 

 

Someone said once; all truth can be found within, or kingdom of god is within you…

Arilia

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I've been rethinking it constantly to create genuinely seductive characters, both physically and intellectually.

 

The seducers offer something very similar to what we'd call heaven. We never feel pain, frustration, or death. We don't have to work or fight to survive. We don't even have to leave the world we're in - our family and friends can visit or join us in the harems. Would removing all the pain and death from our lives take away something that fundamentally makes us human? I don't know. Many people would be terrified of this situation, and try and bring back their loved ones from the harems, sometimes forcefully.

Deep Red

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Woah! I love what you did with the OP. With a plan and information charts so well-organized like that, it makes me want to tackle it as well. Sadly, I'm not quite there coding-wise. Looking forward to this one, that's for sure!

Jexsam

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Oh, a new OP.  *gives it a read*

 

First and foremost, switch to SexLab.  Newer, better, supported by Ashal himself.  It should be able, in concert with normal CK functions, do everything Addict does and then some.

 

"Hermaphrodite" isn't a sex, it's a genetic disorder.  Scratch it.  If you have to have dickgirls in your mod, you can use "Switch" as an excuse; if they can change sex at will, it wouldn't be a stretch to assume they could switch "halfway", as it were.

 

The story is okay.  I can buy the idea of lesser Daedra taking an interest in mortals.  I can buy the idea of secretive, shunned harems led by these well-meaning but misguided entities.  But bits of it don't sit right with me (WARNING: I am kind of a lore-monger).

  • No Aedra has ever had a servant that wasn't mortal.  It makes no sense for any seducers to be in their service, especially considering all seducers are Daedric in origin.  It would make more sense if the leaders of the Aedric harem cults were immortal priests and priestesses, granted immortality and some of the power of their patron deities.
  • Aedric and Daedric entities would almost certainly not work together.
  • Why would anyone in service to an Aedra not understand free will?  Aedra believe pretty strongly in free will, to the point they never intervene in mortal affairs unless absolutely necessary (ex. The Avatar of Akatosh at the end of Oblivion), preferring instead to choose mortal champions when the need arises.  Iana, Razana, and Zate could be rewritten as having been granted immortality somehow (as a gift for devout service?), with their powers being a result of devotion and training under their respective deities.

The Daedric Seducers' spheres, sexes, and powers are all fine, but the sexes of the Aedric ones are weird.  Iana and Razana should have set sexes, male and female respectively.  Zate and Fahy could also have their sexes switched, but it isn't a necessity - I just personally feel like an entity of domination would be better represented as a male, and an entity of nature would be better represented as female.

 

The story proposed could still more or less work.

 

Iana contacts the player and requests help in ending long-standing hostilities between the harems.  He adds that the player would not go unrewarded; when a harem leader is defeated in a contest of their choosing, they must divulge the secret of their erotic sphere to the victor, and further, they may offer their companionship out of respect of the victor's skill.  Razana introduces herself as well, offering her services and slipping the player a pair of Alluring Underwear.  This starts the player off in the quest with two compaions.  The player can fuck either one, watch the two fuck, or have a threesome with them (I believe this is possible with SexLab, but don't quote me on that).

 

Zate's part is unchanged, as would the rest of the story more or less.  Basically, instead of reuniting them, the player is uniting them to start with.

 

 

I hope some of this is useful.  I tried to be constructive, but it's crazy early as I'm posting this so not all of it may be coherent or useful.  ^^;

Jexsam

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@ jexsam, 

 

Would the Alteration or Conjuration (or dragon shout) magic allow transgender spells, ie: dickgirls? {engorged clitoris} 

 

Could the Aedric and Daedric be opposing factions, the struggle manifest in the mortal realm? Aedric being compassionate sexuality and Daedric the tyranny of rapacious lust...

 

... and, never has domination been more at home than within the female gender, sexually speaking.

As much as I dislike the idea, it's certainly within the realm of both of those schools of to temporarily produce something like a futa.  Alteration would deal with enlarging the clitoris, as you used in your example.  Theoretically it could go as far as to create a whole dick-and-balls setup, but I'm forced to assume physical alterations like that are somehow risky, or else you'd hear about more body alterations in TES lore done via Alteration magic.

 

Conjuration would be more along the lines of a bound strapon or something like that.  Not a physical cock able to ejaculate, but for the purposes of pounding an available hole, it would be plenty.  It could even provide the user a pleasurable sensation when used.

 

As for the harem cults, I feel like polarizing them into good and evil like that would be too simple.  Daedra may be considered generally evil, but not all of them want to rule over all they see.  I think it'd be better if most of the harems were their own entities, with the player vying to unite them all under his/her banner at the behest of Iana.  For story purposes, you could say that the servants of Molag Bal and Mephala are working together to stop the player; their spheres are complimentary, so them working together makes a lot of sense.

 

And lol, I suppose so.  Like I said, Fahy could still work as-is.  I was just offering my view on it.

Arilia

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I updated the OP with a download of an initial test version with 3 simple spells. It works on my system, but this is my first attempt at modding, so I probably made some mistakes.

 

If anyone would like to try some modding, we could use a couple more spells. It's pretty simple to make them with the creation kit. I'm thinking the seducer we summon could cast a heal-over-time arousal spell to support the protagonist. It would also be nice if someone knows of a good wings mod for the seducers.
 

@Jexsam
I like exploring characters with unique motivations and personalities. Aliens were usually bad guys in movies, until Spielberg introduced us to ET. Blond girls were screaming victims in horror, until Buffy started kicking ass. These sort of tradition-breaking characters fascinate me because they expand our imagination to things we hadn't thought of before.

 

I'm thinking the best way to deal with gender would simply be to let the player choose. We all have different preferences, after all.
 
It's important to distinguish between Earth and Nirn. Several sources mention daedra are genderless as we would think of it, and some like Mephala appear as either gender. Shapeshifting is also possible in this world, even by the mundane races, and it's reasonable to conclude a daedra could appear as either or both genders if they chose to. I think of it like how classic depictions of angels or demons are genderless or hermaphroditic.

The distinction between aedra and daedra depends on the culture involved, and the various societies don't agree on a pantheon. The creator of Nirn is admired by nords as Shor, while reviled by elves as Lorkhan. The factions are defined by mundane races, and the gods are inherently unfathomable to mortals, so I suspect their true motivations or loyalties don't match our concept of good and evil. I've read several books in the games about various deities working together.

 

In addition, Battlespire established the seducers are willing to switch allegiances. I figure they might work together after their respective patrons abandon them.

 

I'd like to use sex lab as the framework for this. That mod is still in development, however, and I have not modded Skyrim before, so I started with something similar to what we want (sex addict) for the initial experiments. It'd be great if the second version can be based on sex lab instead.

Jexsam

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@Jexsam

I like exploring characters with unique motivations and personalities. Aliens were usually bad guys in movies, until Spielberg introduced us to ET. Blond girls were screaming victims in horror, until Buffy started kicking ass. These sort of tradition-breaking characters fascinate me because they expand our imagination to things we hadn't thought of before.

Sure, but those series broke new ground in their own continuities, where they didn't have any previous lore the needed to be considered. You can certainly still do new and different characters in an established continuity, you just have to be careful not to disregard the lore in the process. All that basically means here is giving the human leaders of the Aedric harems fixed genders and making sure the Daedric Seducers' harems jive with their Lords' spheres, even if their intentions are good. 

I'm thinking the best way to deal with gender would simply be to let the player choose. We all have different preferences, after all.

 

It's important to distinguish between Earth and Nirn. Several sources mention daedra are genderless as we would think of it, and some like Mephala appear as either gender. Shapeshifting is also possible in this world, even by the mundane races, and it's reasonable to conclude a daedra could appear as either or both genders if they chose to. I think of it like how classic depictions of angels or demons are genderless or hermaphroditic.

That'd be perfect. Making all the Seducers "Switches" would maximize both the effect you want and the options a player has. Make the given options Female, Male, or Herm, and all your sex bases are covered.

The distinction between aedra and daedra depends on the culture involved, and the various societies don't agree on a pantheon. The creator of Nirn is admired by nords as Shor, while reviled by elves as Lorkhan. The factions are defined by mundane races, and the gods are inherently unfathomable to mortals, so I suspect their true motivations or loyalties don't match our concept of good and evil. I've read several books in the games about various deities working together.

 

In addition, Battlespire established the seducers are willing to switch allegiances. I figure they might work together after their respective patrons abandon them.

Fair enough. Not every Daedra's sphere is clear, and it is indeed impossible to claim with any sureness that what we do know is all there is to know about any given one. I just have a hard time seeing a servant of Molag Bal the slaver/rapist/defiler/vampire progenitor being a "good guy".

 

...then again, a dominatrix BDSM club owner with a heart of gold could be kinda funny...

Arilia

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I uploaded a new version with several more spells added. The "untamed" spell is not quite working as intended yet - it's only affecting a single target, instead of an area. I'm trying to figure out how to change that. When you have a chance to try the download, please tell me if it worked. I haven't uploaded a mod before.
 
 
@Jexsam

These characters are villains of the story. Many people of Tamriel consider the former consort of Molag Bal a deceiver who wants to forcefully enslave all the mundane races and remove free will. However, villains in stories usually think they're doing what's right. It's like how Lex Luthor wants to kill Superman because he thinks he's protecting Earth from an alien god who could enslave humanity. Luthor believes he's the "good guy" of the story.
 
Does this make sense? These villains have what we would perceive as "evil" character traits, but from their point of view, they're the heroes. Villains with complex motivations are usually more interesting than the typical old chaos/death/destruction goals.
 
I figure demigods of seduction would have attractive goals drawing people to them by the millions.  If everyone hates them, they're not very seductive. It also makes the protagonist ask themselves if they are on the right side. The line between heroes and villains is usually rather fuzzy.

Mephisto_VI

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So far, like what I have read about the mod.  Downside so far, I use SiS instead of SL.  Maybe I will switch, but I think I will test it first.  How complete would you say the work on this mod is?

Arilia

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This is currently standalone, and does not require SL or another framework. It might be compatible with SiS. I haven't tried both together.

 

Most of the spells are ready. The undress spell currently affects only targets it hits (intended to affect an area) but overall works well as a disarm-like spell for armor to make enemies vulnerable. The main spell I have not completed is Conjure Seducer, as I need to first create a race and actors for seducers.

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Demon1865

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This is an awesome idea! I have been thinking of something similar for a long time. I like the idea of consuming the soul. I was kind of thinking along those lines of making mods were if there was a sexual encounter in the game, the person would either absorb / or have absorbed their sexual energy. I also would like to do something were you could have followers with you and they would use sex to heal you, or enhance some attribute. 

kurisu7885

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You know ,we DO only see the side of Tamriel the ESRB allows, to think that the various mage colleges, wich experiment in all forms of magic, including summoning and altering beings around them, to think that they don't experiment in the eortic is just gullibility.

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You know ,we DO only see the side of Tamriel the ESRB allows, to think that the various mage colleges, wich experiment in all forms of magic, including summoning and altering beings around them, to think that they don't experiment in the eortic is just gullibility.

 

There are quest like this

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Toying_With_The_Dead

 

Will you use the Sexlab Journal to some extent?

I had the idea to use it for summoning atronach.

It annoys me that Flame is a sexual female while Frost only "semi"-male and Storm barely has a face.

Well, i'm a sucker for equal possibility (not useage but option!).

So i thought of two roads:

 

1. manifest your desire

This uses the states of the journal to create your "average lover": hetero gets opposite sex and homo gets same sex

If you want to tampere with the AI more.

male/homo/rapist gets a male prison bitch, not a fighter but takes the heat from your ass into his (like said, if you can rape, you can get raped)

male/hetero/married and faithful gets a female aura-tank, gives you and follower cloak of its element, attacks only what attacks you (even when attacked by others) and stands always near you (doesn't follow enemy, but still shuts at them).

 

2. represent your desire

Player gets a clone of themself: male gets male and female gets female

This would be interesting with AI mod.

Character rapes bandits and forsworns a lot but is a saint when guards observe.

A fight starts in a city (dragon/vampire/cultist), you conjure an atronach.

Now it's created with a lot of aggro-sex from the journal and without your awareness, it tries to rape everyone (enemies/civils/guards/you?).

 

Well, reading it now, sounds more like something own. Maybe for Conjure Seducer.

But using the journal for judging would be an immersion plus.

I'm sure Mara doesn't want a rapist as champion, while Molag Bal only accepts such.

There was or is a mod that took the time limit from blessings. but made behavior-rules.

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heckdo

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Awesome stuff! The only problem is whenever two characters start go at it, there's no texture, only that smooth purplish look, for the strapon/genitalia (I can't even tell which is which). Does this require a different mod?

 

Also, is there anything like this for Sex Lab?? I've been meaning to try it out.

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