SexDwarf2250 Posted March 9, 2021 Posted March 9, 2021 If anyone sees what might be causing this issue, any help would be appreciated. I know this is (probably) not related to LL mods, but I've wasted a lot of time troubleshooting what seemed like the most likely suspects already and hope somebody here might have run into it. Here is my load order and list of mods. The game seems to run fine otherwise, but crashes randomly in the three above mentioned menus: Enchantment, Alchemy, Spellmaker. It's not instant, it might crash after 3 seconds, it might crash after 30. There is also no error message or CTD, the game just locks up. Spoiler Load Order: Oblivion.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversCreature.esm CustomSpellIcons.esm SPTDiverseGuards-Resources.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp AddActorValues_example.esp More Effective Enchantments.esp Toggle Shield and Quiver v1.1.esp BetterSaves.esp Display Stats.esp LootMenu.esp Landmarks, w Wells.esp Enhanced Hotkeys.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Smarter Bandits.esp BrotherhoodRenewed.esp Housewives v101.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp LetThePeopleDrink.esp Whispered Warning.esp Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp Lynges Thieves Highway-10256.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp HUD Status Bars.esp GalerionLeveling-Revised.esp Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp MoreWomen ListReplacer.esp RMDailyIncomeV2.esp Soulgem Magic.esp SPTDiverseGuards-Core.esp SPTDiverseGuards-Combined-Human.esp SRJIrresponsibleHorses.esp VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp Vanilla Gear Redux.esp VCEClassOverhaul.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp SM Rest.esp Kyoma's Spell Renamer.esp sr_spell_deletion.esp Toaster's Brutal Stealth.esp LoversNpcStsSync.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp No psychic guards v1.2.esp LoversRaperS.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp No psychic guards harder v1.2.esp Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp LoversAdultYield.esp kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp LoversChorus.esp LoversDRader.esp kuerteeNPCsYield.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp Unequip Broken Armor.esp sf-vibrators.esp LoversJoburg.esp Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPayBandit.esp Initial Glow Redux.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversSatisfaction.esp Initial Glow Redux - Creatures.esp LoversSatisfactionExtender.esp LoversCreature.esp 1310-Chamelion-NoRefraction-TESSource.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp IMPChameleonSEV.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversLight.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp Area Harvest.esp LoversSoulTrap.esp YoungerNPCFaces.esp Disable Fast Travel.esp Realistic_Weighted_Armor.esp TrueShadowmere-NoWaterWalking.esp TrueShadowmere.esp BluntReachCorrection.esp Alternative Start Unofficial Patch.esp Brooms Tidy Up.esp Complete Enchantment Overhaul.esp Spoiler Mod List: More Effective Enchantments 3_1-33266-1-1597792462 Complete Enchantment Overhaul-49258-1-3-1579854218 RogueMage's Daily Income Revised 2.0 Soulgem Magic 2_0 Brooms Tidy Up SM Rest V1-0-20351 No More burned Ground for Kvatch Rebuilt Kvatch Rebuilt 3.0 RC3 Alternative Start Unofficial Patch-49897-1-0-1-1584441236 Alternative Start V1-66-11495 Loot Menu ConScribe 100 MessageLogger Chameleon NoRefraction Chameleon Rebalance SEV Better Regular Eyes - Version B No Intro Videos Twohanded Sneak Attacks-4550 Unequip Broken Armor Lite 2_8 Smarter Bandits Version 1_1-23296 Whispered Warning 1.2.1 LoversAdultYield 0.93b Disable Fast Travel-33881 A Brotherhood Renewed-31773-1-1-2-1557803995 Cyrodiil Travel Services-21999-3-1 LoversNpcStsSync v01_00a LoversSoulTrap v01_03 OneTweak Realistically Weighted Armor Custom Spell Icons v3_1-26196 (2) Display Stats 2_0_1 Enhanced Hotkeys 2_3_1 DarNified UI 132 7z Archive-10763 Toggle Shield and Quiver Initial Glow Redux Elven Map Redux Crime Has Witness Responsibility Tweak Crime has witnesses NPCs yield 0p73 Journal Mod v3x2x1 HOTFIX-15294 Journal Mod v3x2x1-15294 Irresponsible Horses BluntReachCorrection-49818-1-0a-1579015087 Performance Sound Spell Deletion 050-22984 Spell Renamer Basic 3x0x1-12049 Better Saves-48106-1-7-0-1612619461 True Shadowmere ONLY USE ONE ESP Younger NPC Faces plugin for Oblivion Lynges Thieves Highway Let the People Drink sf vibrators OSR_4-1 EngineBugFixes v2.22-47085-2-22-1569169531 Loversbitch meshes and sound only Loversbitch textures-all-versions only SR- OCOv2 Nudes-45859-1-0 Seamless HGEC texture compatibility addon for OCO SR- OCOv2 BAIN 44676 OCO Seamless mod Oblivion Character Overhaul v203-44676-2-03 Area Harvest-50219-1-00-1593267476 Stewie Tweaks Vanilla Combat Enhanced Oblivion -Elys- Uncapper-13841 Galerion Level Revised-41591-1 Lovers Creatures Beta1-2a HUD Status Bars Enhanced-45740-6-3-2 HUD Status Bars 5_3_2 LoversMB2 Rev4_01_movomo LoversSatisfactionExtender Lovers Satisfaction 0.5a AddActorValues LoverrapeSlaveLST1.2 Landmarks w Wells 1-11-5475 More females - List replacer-42504-1-0 No Psychic Guards File-11911 SPTDiverseGuards Housewives-7110 LSTBravilUnderground-v96v2 no MBP Joburg Revised LoversRaperS_Wappy_1.80 LoversChorus_v1.01 LoversDRadar 3dOrgasm LoversSlaveTrader v1.0aFinal NoMaaM BBB Animation Replacer V3_1 LAPF Supplemental Plugin Pack LAPF - version 1.6a1 RTNM Shivering Isles Fixed-38204--991 Really Textured Normal Maps - Updated FemArmor-UnReasonableFlavor Vanilla Gear Redux - Reasonable Flavor (Final) Overwrite for Blockhead Overwrites for MenuQue and Pluggy OBSE Stuff MaleOutfitReplacerV52 MaleBodyReplacerV52 HGEC Body Blockhead 11.0-43752-11-0 UniversalSkeletonNIF181 Unofficial Oblivion DLC Patches Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch Unofficial Oblivion Patch Operation Optimization v1.1.1 OBSE -Elys- Universal Silent Voice v93-16622 MenuQue v16b-32200-v16b Pluggy Dev v132-23979 DLC: DLCBattlehornCastle DLC: DLCFrostcrag DLC: DLCHorseArmor DLC: DLCMehrunesRazor DLC: DLCOrrery DLC: DLCShiveringIsles DLC: DLCSpellTomes DLC: DLCThievesDen DLC: DLCVileLair DLC: Knights
fejeena Posted March 9, 2021 Posted March 9, 2021 You have a messed up Load order. The last Mods should be LoversMB2.esp Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp No esp below !!!! especially no Lovers Mod. And a miracle that your game doesn't crash or freeze more often. Example: LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp has the masterfiles Oblivion.esm, Lovers with PK.esm and LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp So you can not have LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp below LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp ! LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp has a missing master file. You can search for missing master files by loading all your Mods with TES4Edit. Start TES4Edit and click OK, then it will load all your active Mods.... and stops loading if there is a mod with missing masterfile, and in the right window it will tell you what's missing. Then you can move the missing files to the right position (if it is somewhere below in your load order) or you install the missing file. ----------------- And you have a lot spell-Enchantment Mods CustomSpellIcons.esm, More Effective Enchantments.esp, Complete Enchantment Overhaul.esp , ..... Check if there are conflict. ------------- Read mod discription or readme ! True Shadowmere Two .esp are included, only activate one. Activate the .esp -NoWaterWalking if you do not want that feature. You have both esp activated. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fix your Load order, check conflicts. And then start with a new game !!!! A bug can be in your old save. If the game works with a new started character then you can test your old saves, maybe they will work . ( But often old saves does not work after strongly rearranged load order) More information about Load order, read https://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbb-load-order-sorting-espesm-cleaning-cs-cse-body-stretching/
SexDwarf2250 Posted March 10, 2021 Author Posted March 10, 2021 Thank you for the help so far! Shadowmere only had one of the esps actually active. However, I also had noticed earlier BOSS didn't recognize it, so I decided to just toss that one and a few others. I tried without the enchantment overhauls on a new game, still crashing. That said, I tossed Complete Enchantment Overhaul on same grounds as above after checking for conflicts. At one point I had everything sorted according to a post here and locked, but I wonder if BOSS somehow changed things after all. I'll be trying more things from the links over the next few days as I have time, thanks again.
mma75online Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 a little tip I hope it help u .. in my game I use Construction Set then open and make active ( Unofficial Oblivion Patch ) then create what ever spell, weapon & potion I need in game or even change some specific NPC Armor & appearance then save a exit .. also I use merge plugin tool to combine mod from same type like armor, weapon, spells ... so my load order become few and organized .... those methods is so easy and had a lot of videos to explain in YouTube.
fejeena Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 If you run BOSS again it will put the Mods it does not know at the end of the load order. You have to sort the Mods manually. Don't leave all the unsorted/unknown mods at the end ! If you do not want to sort the Mods that BOSS dioesn't know again and again... -you can add the unknown Mods in the oblivion masterlist.txt file. Or -you do not run the BOSS tool if you have new Mods, you use notepad++ and open the Oblivion masterlist and search the new Mod and then sort it manually. ( seee the link I posted above )
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