Random game freeze in Enchantment, Alchemy and Spellmaker menus

[SexDwarf2250]

If anyone sees what might be causing this issue, any help would be appreciated. I know this is (probably) not related to LL mods, but I've wasted a lot of time troubleshooting what seemed like the most likely suspects already and hope somebody here might have run into it. Here is my load order and list of mods.

 

The game seems to run fine otherwise, but crashes randomly in the three above mentioned menus: Enchantment, Alchemy, Spellmaker. It's not instant, it might crash after 3 seconds, it might crash after 30. 

 

There is also no error message or CTD, the game just locks up.

 

Spoiler

Load Order:

 

Oblivion.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
LoversCreature.esm
CustomSpellIcons.esm
SPTDiverseGuards-Resources.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
AddActorValues_example.esp
More Effective Enchantments.esp
Toggle Shield and Quiver v1.1.esp
BetterSaves.esp
Display Stats.esp
LootMenu.esp
Landmarks, w Wells.esp
Enhanced Hotkeys.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Smarter Bandits.esp
BrotherhoodRenewed.esp
Housewives v101.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp
LetThePeopleDrink.esp
Whispered Warning.esp
Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
Lynges Thieves Highway-10256.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
HUD Status Bars.esp
GalerionLeveling-Revised.esp
Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp
MoreWomen ListReplacer.esp
RMDailyIncomeV2.esp
Soulgem Magic.esp
SPTDiverseGuards-Core.esp
SPTDiverseGuards-Combined-Human.esp
SRJIrresponsibleHorses.esp
VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp
Vanilla Gear Redux.esp
VCEClassOverhaul.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
SM Rest.esp
Kyoma's Spell Renamer.esp
sr_spell_deletion.esp
Toaster's Brutal Stealth.esp
LoversNpcStsSync.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
No psychic guards v1.2.esp
LoversRaperS.esp
Lovers3dorgasm.esp
No psychic guards harder v1.2.esp
Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp
LoversAdultYield.esp
kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp
LoversChorus.esp
LoversDRader.esp
kuerteeNPCsYield.esp
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
Unequip Broken Armor.esp
sf-vibrators.esp
LoversJoburg.esp
Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
LoversBed.esp
LoversPayBandit.esp
Initial Glow Redux.esp
Lovers with PK.esp
LoversSatisfaction.esp
Initial Glow Redux - Creatures.esp
LoversSatisfactionExtender.esp
LoversCreature.esp
1310-Chamelion-NoRefraction-TESSource.esp
LoversBackup2.esp
LoversRapeSlave.esp
IMPChameleonSEV.esp
LoversMB2.esp
LoversLight.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversSlaveTrader.esp
LSTBravilUnderground.esp
Area Harvest.esp
LoversSoulTrap.esp
YoungerNPCFaces.esp
Disable Fast Travel.esp
Realistic_Weighted_Armor.esp
TrueShadowmere-NoWaterWalking.esp
TrueShadowmere.esp
BluntReachCorrection.esp
Alternative Start Unofficial Patch.esp
Brooms Tidy Up.esp
Complete Enchantment Overhaul.esp

 

 

Spoiler

Mod List:

More Effective Enchantments 3_1-33266-1-1597792462
Complete Enchantment Overhaul-49258-1-3-1579854218
RogueMage's Daily Income Revised 2.0
Soulgem Magic 2_0
Brooms Tidy Up
SM Rest V1-0-20351
No More burned Ground for Kvatch Rebuilt
Kvatch Rebuilt 3.0 RC3
Alternative Start Unofficial Patch-49897-1-0-1-1584441236
Alternative Start V1-66-11495
Loot Menu
ConScribe 100
MessageLogger
Chameleon NoRefraction
Chameleon Rebalance SEV
Better Regular Eyes - Version B
No Intro Videos
Twohanded Sneak Attacks-4550
Unequip Broken Armor Lite 2_8
Smarter Bandits Version 1_1-23296
Whispered Warning 1.2.1
LoversAdultYield 0.93b
Disable Fast Travel-33881
A Brotherhood Renewed-31773-1-1-2-1557803995
Cyrodiil Travel Services-21999-3-1
LoversNpcStsSync v01_00a
LoversSoulTrap v01_03
OneTweak
Realistically Weighted Armor
Custom Spell Icons v3_1-26196 (2)
Display Stats 2_0_1
Enhanced Hotkeys 2_3_1
DarNified UI 132 7z Archive-10763
Toggle Shield and Quiver
Initial Glow Redux
Elven Map Redux
Crime Has Witness Responsibility Tweak
Crime has witnesses
NPCs yield 0p73
Journal Mod v3x2x1 HOTFIX-15294
Journal Mod v3x2x1-15294
Irresponsible Horses
BluntReachCorrection-49818-1-0a-1579015087
Performance Sound
Spell Deletion 050-22984
Spell Renamer Basic 3x0x1-12049
Better Saves-48106-1-7-0-1612619461
True Shadowmere ONLY USE ONE ESP
Younger NPC Faces plugin for Oblivion
Lynges Thieves Highway
Let the People Drink
sf vibrators
OSR_4-1
EngineBugFixes v2.22-47085-2-22-1569169531
Loversbitch meshes and sound only
Loversbitch textures-all-versions only
SR- OCOv2 Nudes-45859-1-0 Seamless
HGEC texture compatibility addon for OCO
SR- OCOv2 BAIN 44676 OCO Seamless mod
Oblivion Character Overhaul v203-44676-2-03
Area Harvest-50219-1-00-1593267476
Stewie Tweaks
Vanilla Combat Enhanced
Oblivion -Elys- Uncapper-13841
Galerion Level Revised-41591-1
Lovers Creatures Beta1-2a
HUD Status Bars Enhanced-45740-6-3-2
HUD Status Bars 5_3_2
LoversMB2 Rev4_01_movomo
LoversSatisfactionExtender
Lovers Satisfaction 0.5a
AddActorValues
LoverrapeSlaveLST1.2
Landmarks w Wells 1-11-5475
More females - List replacer-42504-1-0
No Psychic Guards File-11911
SPTDiverseGuards
Housewives-7110
LSTBravilUnderground-v96v2 no MBP
Joburg Revised
LoversRaperS_Wappy_1.80
LoversChorus_v1.01
LoversDRadar
3dOrgasm
LoversSlaveTrader v1.0aFinal
NoMaaM BBB Animation Replacer V3_1
LAPF Supplemental Plugin Pack
LAPF - version 1.6a1
RTNM Shivering Isles Fixed-38204--991
Really Textured Normal Maps - Updated
FemArmor-UnReasonableFlavor
Vanilla Gear Redux - Reasonable Flavor (Final)
Overwrite for Blockhead
Overwrites for MenuQue and Pluggy OBSE Stuff
MaleOutfitReplacerV52
MaleBodyReplacerV52
HGEC Body
Blockhead 11.0-43752-11-0
UniversalSkeletonNIF181
Unofficial Oblivion DLC Patches
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch
Unofficial Oblivion Patch
Operation Optimization v1.1.1
OBSE -Elys- Universal Silent Voice v93-16622
MenuQue v16b-32200-v16b
Pluggy Dev v132-23979
DLC: DLCBattlehornCastle
DLC: DLCFrostcrag
DLC: DLCHorseArmor
DLC: DLCMehrunesRazor
DLC: DLCOrrery
DLC: DLCShiveringIsles
DLC: DLCSpellTomes
DLC: DLCThievesDen
DLC: DLCVileLair
DLC: Knights

 

[fejeena]

You have a messed up Load order.

 

The last Mods should be

 LoversMB2.esp
 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp
 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
 Lovers3dorgasm.esp
 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

No esp below !!!! especially no Lovers Mod.

 

 

And a miracle that your game doesn't crash or freeze more often.

Example:

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp has the masterfiles   Oblivion.esm, Lovers with PK.esm  and  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

So you can not have  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp below LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp !  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp has a missing master file.

 

You can search for missing master files by loading all your Mods with TES4Edit.

Start TES4Edit  and click OK,  then it will load all your active Mods....  and stops loading if there is a mod with missing masterfile, and in the right window it will tell you what's missing.

Then you can move the missing files to the right position (if it is somewhere below in your load order) or you install the missing file.

 

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And you have  a lot spell-Enchantment    Mods

CustomSpellIcons.esm,  More Effective Enchantments.esp,   Complete Enchantment Overhaul.esp , .....

Check if there are conflict.

 

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Read mod discription or readme !

True Shadowmere

Two .esp are included, only activate one. Activate the .esp -NoWaterWalking if you do not want that feature.

You have both esp activated.

 

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Fix your Load order, check conflicts.  And then start with a new game !!!! A bug can be in your old save.

If the game works with a new started character then you can test your old saves, maybe they will work . ( But often old saves does not work after strongly rearranged load order)

 

More information about Load order, read https://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbb-load-order-sorting-espesm-cleaning-cs-cse-body-stretching/

 

[SexDwarf2250]

Thank you for the help so far!

 

Shadowmere only had one of the esps actually active. However, I also had noticed earlier BOSS didn't recognize it, so I decided to just toss that one and a few others.

 

I tried without the enchantment overhauls on a new game, still crashing. That said, I tossed Complete Enchantment Overhaul on same grounds as above after checking for conflicts.

 

At one point I had everything sorted according to a post here and locked, but I wonder if BOSS somehow changed things after all. 

 

I'll be trying more things from the links over the next few days as I have time, thanks again.

[mma75online]

a little tip I hope it help u .. in my game I use Construction Set then open and make active  ( Unofficial Oblivion Patch ) then create what ever spell, weapon & potion I need in game or even change some specific NPC Armor & appearance  then save a exit .. also I use merge plugin tool to combine mod from same type like armor, weapon, spells ... so my load order become few and organized .... those methods is so easy and had a lot of videos to explain in YouTube.  

[fejeena]

If you run BOSS again it will put the Mods it does not know at the end of the load order. You have to sort the Mods manually. Don't leave all the unsorted/unknown mods at the end !

 

If you do not want to sort the Mods that BOSS dioesn't know again and again...

-you can add the unknown Mods in the oblivion masterlist.txt file.

Or

-you do not run the BOSS tool if you have new Mods, you use notepad++ and open the Oblivion masterlist and search the new Mod and then sort it manually. ( seee the link I posted above )