What mod is eating my RAM?

[MK66]

Hello and thanks in advance to whoever want to help me with my issue.

 

Up until now, Skyrim worked mostly fine, despite the many, many mods I have.
However recently, a curious problem appeared: At launch, the game works fine: 60 fps, smooth animations and scripts, very cool. But after a while (like 1 or 2 minutes), it starts to SERIOUSLY slow down: Fall to 30 then 15- fps, not smooth animations, computer disc and fan go crazy, worse, some scripts start to take a long loading time, npcs take their time to answer, some scripts seem to break and stop where they were, and SL animations take a good 10 to 20 seconds to change when manually activated, voices interval (configured on 3 seconds) become 20 seconds too.

 

I have noticed two oddities about this memory slowdown:

-Only certain saves are affected, others seem to work fine (for now).
-Opening the pause menu or the console and letting it open for a few seconds seems to solve the problem, and upon closing, the game becomes smooth for a while, until the problem resume again. Keeping pause menu open for 1 minute or more even make the disc and fan slow down, and the computer itself cool again. Upon closing, game is 60 fps again (but only for one minute or two).

So my question is: Do you know what the fuck is causing this?

I don't have much more information to provide since I tried multiple things: To be in a clean location (small and only me - but the problem persists even there), shutting down some mods though MCM, and even unitstalled some that I suppose were hungry on process (such as RDS or others who rely on NPC triggering actions, fame calculation, line of sight, etc), but nothing worked. At this point, I suspect some background script may be guilty, but I have no idea which could it be.

So if anyone recognize it from the description, has a vague idea or know some usual suspects, or know a way for me to pinpoint the guilty, I would be grateful if you could tell me.

Ofc, there is the alternative of unistalling and remaking Skyrim yet again from scratch, but I would like to stop losing my saves for the dozen time or so.

[Pavlovian Afterdark]

if your character does not die very often, console kill it if the issue was that, it will throw you to the main screen instead of loading last save, if this happens, load it manually, kill your char let it load normally and then save.

happened to me once or twice along side crashes and this fixed for me.

almost forgot, use savecleaner after that

[RW311]

papyrus log could be useful in this case, save cleaner also can help since it allows you to see active quests.

[MK66]

55 minutes ago, Geckoprime said:

if your character does not die very often, console kill it if the issue was that, it will throw you to the main screen instead of loading last save, if this happens, load it manually, kill your char let it load normally and then save.

happened to me once or twice along side crashes and this fixed for me.

almost forgot, use savecleaner after that

Indeed, rarely dies since I use Alternative Death. I'm gonna try that but I'm doubtful that it will fix it.
So to resume: Remove protection then console kill it, then let it save the last save automatically?

 

 

6 minutes ago, RW311 said:

papyrus log could be useful in this case, save cleaner also can help since it allows you to see active quests.

What to do with papyrus log? Also, what save cleaner?

[Pavlovian Afterdark]

3 hours ago, MK66 said:

Indeed, rarely dies since I use Alternative Death. I'm gonna try that but I'm doubtful that it will fix it.
So to resume: Remove protection then console kill it, then let it save the last save automatically?

 

 

What to do with papyrus log? Also, what save cleaner?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/5031

Also yes, remove protection, console kill, let it load normaly if the game throws you to main screen,load save again

console kill again load save and save over it

later use save cleaner

[Andy14]

When the game recovers briefly in the menu or console it appears that one or more scripts are looping endlessly causing stacks.

The cause can be an outdated mod, bad script or orphaned script.
There are save cleaners such as FallrimTools.

Save Cleaner can be used to remove orphaned scripts from the save (among other things).

Because with the removal of a mod, scripts of this mod still remain in the save.

 

Fallrim Tools

 

And upload your papyrus log.
It's located in my documents / my games / Skyrim / Logs.

If logging is not activated - read here (I am too lazy to write).

 

 

[Durante]

You could have some mod incompatibility going on, I had this happen to me too some time ago. Mods like "Blush when aroused" were making an insane amount of dump stacks

[sanya56714]

On 26.09.2020 at 01:01, MK66 said:

Привет и заранее спасибо всем, кто хочет помочь мне с моей проблемой.

 

До сих пор Skyrim работал в основном нормально, несмотря на то, что у меня было очень много модов.
Однако недавно возникла любопытная проблема: при запуске игра работает нормально: 60 кадров в секунду, плавная анимация и скрипты, очень круто. Но через некоторое время (например, 1-2 минуты) он начинает СЕРЬЕЗНО замедляться: падение до 30, затем 15 кадров в секунду, анимация не плавная, компьютерный диск и вентилятор сходят с ума, что еще хуже, некоторые скрипты начинают долго загружаться, npcs не торопятся, чтобы ответить, некоторые скрипты, кажется, ломаются и останавливаются там, где они были, и SL-анимации меняются от 10 до 20 секунд при активации вручную, интервал между голосами (настроенный на 3 секунды) также становится 20 секунд.

 

Я заметил две странности в этом замедлении памяти:

-Только некоторые сохранения затронуты, другие вроде работают нормально (пока).
-Открытие меню паузы или консоли и ее открытие на несколько секунд, кажется, решает проблему, и после закрытия игра становится плавной на некоторое время, пока проблема не возобновится снова. Если оставить меню паузы открытым в течение 1 минуты или более, диск и вентилятор замедлятся, а компьютер снова остынет. После закрытия игра снова 60 кадров в секунду (но только на одну-две минуты).

Итак, мой вопрос: вы знаете, что, черт возьми, вызывает это?

У меня не так много информации, чтобы предоставить, так как я пробовал несколько вещей: находиться в чистом месте (маленьком и только я, но проблема сохраняется даже там), отключение некоторых модов через MCM и даже установку некоторых, которые, как я полагаю, были голодны по процессу (например, RDS или другие, которые полагаются на запускающие действия NPC, расчет славы, линию видимости и т. д.), но ничего не работало. На данный момент я подозреваю, что какой-то фоновый сценарий может быть виноват, но я понятия не имею, что это могло быть.

Так что, если кто-то узнает это по описанию, имеет смутное представление или знает некоторых обычных подозреваемых, или знает, как я могу определить виновных, я был бы признателен, если бы вы мне сказали.

Конечно, есть альтернатива - деинсталлировать и переделать Skyrim еще раз с нуля, но я бы хотел перестать терять свои сохранения на десяток раз или около того.

spawn creatures,hentai creatures, animal sos? I do not know.

[blank_v]

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Opening the pause menu or the console and letting it open for a few seconds seems to solve the problem, and upon closing, the game becomes smooth for a while, until the problem resume again. Keeping pause menu open for 1 minute or more even make the disc and fan slow down, and the computer itself cool again. Upon closing, game is 60 fps again (but only for one minute or two).

Probably infinite loop in one script :)...

 

once i made same mistake, i made while loop for my first Arena Mod to spawn 20 "test crabs" 

however i forgot to subtract -1 from loop after spawning one crab, and loop was ruuning forever spawning infinite amount of crabs

 

but after 20 seconds game started to slowing down, opening Console helped for while... probably because game had some time

to find more RAM and to finish stacked scripts :x...

 

 

 

If You have source files of Scripts you could fix that script :x...

but big problem is... which script have infinite loop?

 

Sometimes some idiot Scripters make stupid thing like using "RegisterForUpdate" function :x...

they should use ONLY "RegisterForSingleUpdate" that helps a lot

 

Go to SaveTools and delete / track all "UpdateOffsets" 

UpdateOffsets are scripts that registered self for update ofc... normaly u should not have milions of it...

if there is like 1000 scripts or 10.000 then find script that repeat most and this should be problem in ur game :x...

 

 

 

but if it is infinite While loop... idk if its possible to track infinite while :x...

[MK66]

Update, using all the aformentionned, I have been able to stop the problem:
-Going into a clean cell (no one but the player).
-Stopping most mods, and those that I can afford to remove for a time.
-Going back in the game, waiting one game day, saving.

-Using the SaveTools and removing orphans scripts.

-Loading save, waiting another day, saving.

-Killing the player and letting it reload normally the last save.

-Saving again.

-Reactivating mods.
 

This seems to fix the problem, for now. Thanks everyone and hope this help someone else.

[MK66]

On 9/29/2020 at 12:58 PM, TobiaszPL said:

 

Go to SaveTools and delete / track all "UpdateOffsets" 

UpdateOffsets are scripts that registered self for update ofc... normaly u should not have milions of it...

if there is like 1000 scripts or 10.000 then find script that repeat most and this should be problem in ur game :x...

 

 

 

Note that I can't use SaveTool for some reason, while loading the save, it displays the picture, then load for a few seconds, and crash. Only ReSaver appear to be working but doesn't offer that option.