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Rayblue

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well i was given a warning at Nexus for reporting a moderator for banning a member for a supposedly bad username, but the name was not bad, even according to their stupid rules.  So I contacted a moderator I thought I could trust to stand up for me (I have....very personal issues I thought I could trust with this person.....no, don't ask please, as I will never explain to anyone I don't know very very well).  No, did not work and I can honestly recommend against any Nexus moderator, no matter how friendly he or she may seem.

 

Are Nexus and Lovers using the same forum.....looks so much alike

 

They're on the defensive; they'll shoot first and ask questions later. That's Nex policy.

 

Also, there's a difference between here and there: Nex is a corporate state now.

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lemonbalm

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I wish the admin had closed this thread and started a new one linked to it instead of pruning so much of what's been posted (ie evidence) regarding what the Nexus has been up to. It's over a year's worth of data gone. Any newbie stopping by is probably wondering what we're going on about now. [Of course if it has been archived and I just don't know, feel free to correct me.]

 

Are Nexus and Lovers using the same forum.....looks so much alike

 

Same forum type I believe, just with modifications that set them apart. Look down at the bottom of the page and you can see it's an IP Board, like theirs.
 

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ringgold99

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well i was given a warning at Nexus for reporting a moderator for banning a member for a supposedly bad username, but the name was not bad, even according to their stupid rules.  So I contacted a moderator I thought I could trust to stand up for me (I have....very personal issues I thought I could trust with this person.....no, don't ask please, as I will never explain to anyone I don't know very very well).  No, did not work and I can honestly recommend against any Nexus moderator, no matter how friendly he or she may seem.

 

Are Nexus and Lovers using the same forum.....looks so much alike

 

They're on the defensive; they'll shoot first and ask questions later. That's Nex policy.

 

Also, there's a difference between here and there: Nex is a corporate state now.

 

 

Shoot first and ask questions later is very correct.   And yes, you are correct, Nexus is all about the money now.

 

 

Me, I am here for my 2yo daughter and my triplets born at the beginning of February.   So everyone like Nexus and anyone else demanding my allegiance can f off.

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Rayblue

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Let's see... Oh, yes, there's another category of mod user -- the realism fan -- the one who expects mods to be painfully realistic and should conform to industrial and OSHA work safety standards, such as pointing out that smelters and forges should be moved out of the house because it could kill the occupant. 

 

:dodgy:

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polluxval

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Let's see... Oh, yes, there's another category of mod user -- the realism fan -- the one who expects mods to be painfully realistic and should conform to industrial and OSHA work safety standards, such as pointing out that smelters and forges should be moved out of the house because it could kill the occupant. 

 

:dodgy:

 

 

there is already an extinguisher mod for that.

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lemonbalm, on 24 Mar 2013 - 13:42, said:
I wish the admin had closed this thread and started a new one linked to it instead of pruning so much of what's been posted (ie evidence) regarding what the Nexus has been up to. It's over a year's worth of data gone. Any newbie stopping by is probably wondering what we're going on about now. [Of course if it has been archived and I just don't know, feel free to correct me.]

ringgold99, on 23 Mar 2013 - 12:06, said:
Are Nexus and Lovers using the same forum.....looks so much alike

Same forum type I believe, just with modifications that set them apart. Look down at the bottom of the page and you can see it's an IP Board, like theirs.

 

 

If the thread had 1k pages or more it was probably archived.

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LevelUp

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I don't think I've been around long enough there to know what it's truly like, but from what I gather..

 

1. The mods are over-zealous.

2. The lore-buff fanbase will tear to shreds any mods that aren't lore-friendly.

 

But I imagine that is just the tip of the iceberg..

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Rayblue

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Yeah, some mod authors are trying to appease such an anal-retentive purist fanbase that the word lore-friendly is being overused in the description, just like the labeling on food where there are allergen and gluten sensitivity warnings.

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Night~Sky

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My only real issues with Nexus (besides it having piss-poor security and the lore-police) are that it doesn't really facilitate giving modders their dues. It's almost as if the endorsement system was designed to ensure the majority of people wouldn't bother with it, and considering that most major / significant mods are a team effort (even if the team only consists of two or three people), and that this has been true in modding since the days of fricken DOOM and QUAKE, it comes across as rather stupid that a psuedo-professional modding resource website has no facilities for creating a unified "team" identity under which to post mods and receive feedback/endorsements.

 

I could also say something about the poorly thought out and implemented "categories" system. It's extremely rudimentary and narrow-minded (from a design perspective). Considering GEMS (love it or hate it) has pretty much completely superseded the Nexus as a much more reliable and clear means of obtaining immersion and role-play focused mods. This is something Nexus could do itself, easily. And while they're at it, they could set up iterations for action-focused mods, survival-focused mods, etc. Instead, they use a catagorization system where "immersion" and "graphic improvement" can be tagged on, say, a chair-retexture, when it's awfully unlikely someone looking for an "immersion" is actually looking for a chair retexture.

 

Okay, that was probably a daft example, but I think you get the point.

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Arizona_Steve

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Yeah, some mod authors are trying to appease such an anal-retentive purist fanbase that the word lore-friendly is being overused in the description, just like the labeling on food where there are allergen and gluten sensitivity warnings.

 

 

I tend to avoid anything with "Lore-Friendly" attached to it. Especially armor mods... :P

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RitualClarity

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I have no problem with nexus. I have been there with 2 log on since early 2007-2008. I have stated things that were not so flattering even wrong related to the mods. I have not been attacked or threatened or banned. I try my best to be respectful and accurate. If a download is broken or there are some other error or miss representation I mention it. Often time messaging the creator of the mod instead of the Forum.

 

They have almost no community. Most individuals that require some community find it elsewhere. Why people make comments on their site in the first place boggles my mind. I have limited post and interaction on Nexus. I use it as it is designed to be used as. It is a repository of mods. That is it. If they desire to allow trolls and "Lore-Frendly" activist run rampant so be it. It doesn't harm me one bit.

 

There .. um.. nonacceptance of LL is their right. It doesn't hurt LL in my opinion. In fact it can only bolster the awareness that LL exists. People come and see that we have an accepting tolerant community. There attempt at limiting or eliminating any affect LL has on the modding community is being counteracted by their severe .. intolerance of LL. Individuals such as myself come and investigate what the fuss is about. Many I believe stay.  Because of this many truly talented modders develop for LL mods that couldn't be created in an environment of unaccepted and intolerance that is Nexus.

 

Nexus and their intolerance actually helps LL and the modding community by helping develop alternate sites and communities where modders and users can go to find community and alternatives to the common mods ( insert 1000's of alternate god mod mods here) found there.

 

Now the.. types of ads shown here at LL. Now that is.. quite.. another story... :P

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Rayblue

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This modder had a reason why he doesn't want to upload to Nex:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=116490046&searchtext=

 

 

Dilly  [author] Apr 2, 2013 @ 11:05am 

@^4Kokain^6Koala, becuse the nexus banes people for nothing. Also in general, I dont want to have to log on and go to the site every time I want to check a comment or how many endsments My mods have. The nexus sucks, and I will never upload any thing to it. If skyrimplayer wants he can do it, but i will not

 

(Dilly ought to clean up his mod, must be some issue with the navmesh, UDRs and ITMs.)

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Rayblue

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Rarely if they ever manage to forgive someone they just shot at.

 

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Mod authors, especially those whose works are in high demand, sometimes have to patiently and politely put up with the entitlement mentality that users tend to exhibit, but in some cases talented mod authors such as Halo quit the Nex not just because of the regime but also the same entitlement mentality coming from certain overdemanding childish end-users who ask for the stars and the moons on a silver plate.

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gwyllgi

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I wonder, honestly, whoever runs nexus must be aware that he has competion, that is less restrictive in the case of LL and better done in the case of steam workshop... why the dakka banning? does he not want to grow nexus into something better or is he hoping everyone gets bored of it and looks for alternatives?

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Rayblue

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They're on hair triggers, and not every member is smart enough to know what to do except in the worst-case scenario, or know about Internet decorum, or knows the meaning of the word gratitude.

 

Yes, they have competition and they know it, they're expanding now as a company than an independent entity, but they'll never acknowledge this site because they feel threatened about its existence or its deviant content, and in order to make itself presentable to venture capitalists/investors, game development companies, sponsors or advertisers, Nex had to weed out adult or "offending" content or anything that's flagged as an IP violation.

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Poontank

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To me (naturally banned from there for 'child pornography'!) it's a confession of failure/evidence of incapacity if a community is conditioning its members to such a behaviour. Sad but true, this is the only way to effectively avoid eventually being banned. On a site where moderators can and will ban anyone they want - except their fabulous 'super stars' and premium members (*cough*83Willow*cough*) - real community spirit is absent.

And not needed in the long run anyway since the number of accounts is the only thing that counts.

 

Don't know if I should count myself lucky being among the 1 percent of peeps who is unable to blame himself but the Buttahfukkah who proudly, glee- and joyfully handled the banning process. While a person (banned from this site here no less!) recently promoted his mod with 21 pictures similar to the one which got me banned, just a lot more suggestive. He is still a member there. Double standards @ work.

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Thasic

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Nexus is a great resource but you have to be very careful when using it. Getting banned is extremely easy to do. I tend to not make comments except praise, I am careful of uploads, I don't engage in forum debates. In other words, I act like I am at work, where everything is considered sexual harassment or racism. The moderators tend to be a bit fascist in my opinion, but that is the cost of access. Keep you comments to yourself, keep your head down and Nexus is fine.

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