OH1972 Posted July 24, 2020 Posted July 24, 2020 Ok, I am observing two problems at the moment. First, even when a restraint is removed, the restrained animation persists - the PC will walk with her hands up if she previously was in a yoke, or with her hands behind her back if tied up. Even having other animations play in between, such as sex scenes will not interrupt that. Secondly, when the PC is naked, other characters will walk up to her saying "Here I've got some clothes that will be sure to cover you up". The problem is that from then on, they will not say anything else anymore - even when the character is dressed again! This is especially problematic when that NPC is a follower, as it basically requires going back to a previous save. loadorder2.txt
donttouchmethere Posted July 25, 2020 Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, OH1972 said: Ok, I am observing two problems at the moment. First, even when a restraint is removed, the restrained animation persists - the PC will walk with her hands up if she previously was in a yoke, or with her hands behind her back if tied up. Even having other animations play in between, such as sex scenes will not interrupt that. Looking at your LO I would say: Bad mix (even hurts a little) of old and new mods. Lots of possible conflicts with DDi Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm CreatureFramework.esm daymoyl.esm BeeingFemale.esm DeviousFramework.esm PubicMeshColorRE.esm SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm ZazExtensionPack.esm TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm Heretical Resources.esm Cutting Room Floor.esp SkyUI.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp TradeBarter.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp xazPrisonOverhaul.esp xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp Footprints.esp Beards.esp Brows.esp aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp imp_helm_legend.esp ADS.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp DragonShoutVoice.esp Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp FtM_3.esp hydra_slavegirls.esp Captured Dreams.esp SexLab-Stories.esp Point The Way.esp wolfclub.esp NARC.esp Cloaks.esp Dead Body Collision.esp Run For Your Lives.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp Player_Exhibitionist.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp SimpleSlavery.esp Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp Convenient Horses.esp Lock Overhaul.esp TimingIsEverything.esp WetandCold.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp FNIS.esp Elemental Staves.esp Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp FarmhouseChimneys.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Deviously Enslaved.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp EmbersHD.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp When Vampires Attack.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenu.esp Extended Slider Colors.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp SexLab Extra Voices.esp zzLSAR.esp ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp Devious Deviants.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp PetCollar.esp SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp sr_ifpssl.esp SLAnimLoader.esp Apropos.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SLA Monitor Widget.esp SLALAnimObj.esp SlaveTats.esp KS Hairdo's.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SLDrunk.esp EstrusChaurus.esp BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp mslDeviousCaptures.esp ContinueGameNoCrash.esp TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp TDF Aroused Rape.esp SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp FMEA Skyrim.esp DfwSupport.esp RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp AOS.esp ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp STEP Core Patch.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ccas_starts.esp FarmhouseChimneysLAL+CRF.esp Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp UltrawidescreenFixesForSkyrimLE.esp TruBy9.esp troublesofheroine.esp SLPleasure.esp SexLab Confabulation.esp BodySearch.esp SexLab Approach.esp FNISspells.esp FallOfTheDragonborn.esp EstrusTrappedEggs.esp AnubAnimObj.esp Deviously Vanilla - AIO.esp Deviously Vanilla - Timing is Everything.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp SexLab_Solutions_PO_Patch.esp DeviousCarriages.esp submissivelola_est.esp
donttouchmethere Posted July 25, 2020 Posted July 25, 2020 4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: ZaZAnimationPack.esm 4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: ZazExtensionPack.esm TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm 4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: Heretical Resources.esm You sure this combination works? Can't see the version numbers. I guess you try to get ZazExtension pack running? The LO doesn't look right with HR below everything. Doing such experiments I also would move DDa,i,x down so they don't get overruled in LO by the ZAP experiment. 4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: xazPrisonOverhaul.esp xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp That is the old version, I guess you try to create a devious retro LO? Are you also using old DD versions? 4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: MoreNastyCritters.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp Seems you also use the old MNC version => won't effect DD, but you are better off with MNC SLAL 4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp bad idea to use with newer DDi versions, will break DDi DeviousCut is included in DDi now. 4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: Deviously Cursed Loot.esp I hope you use an old version if you don't use newest DDi 4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: Deviously Vanilla - AIO.esp Deviously Vanilla - Timing is Everything.esp 4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: DeviousCarriages.esp submissivelola_est.esp those use newer DDi versions or newer ZAP versions. If you try an retro setup they might conflict. Remember that DDi is now disconnected from ZAP.
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted July 25, 2020 Posted July 25, 2020 13 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: XPMSE.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp xpmse should overwrite sos, not the other way around I go with the rule, nothing overwrites your skeleton
Lux Lux Posted July 25, 2020 Posted July 25, 2020 15 hours ago, OH1972 said: Ok, I am observing two problems at the moment. First, even when a restraint is removed, the restrained animation persists - the PC will walk with her hands up if she previously was in a yoke, or with her hands behind her back if tied up. Even having other animations play in between, such as sex scenes will not interrupt that. Secondly, when the PC is naked, other characters will walk up to her saying "Here I've got some clothes that will be sure to cover you up". The problem is that from then on, they will not say anything else anymore - even when the character is dressed again! This is especially problematic when that NPC is a follower, as it basically requires going back to a previous save. loadorder2.txt 3.73 kB · 2 downloads I get that the restrained issue with a slave mod sometimes after I restrain them. The quick fix is just to restrain them again and release. I've also had an issue w/ maybe DD where I get the hobbled animation even after unrestraining. In that instance, the fix was doing a show inventory on the NPC , finding the item in their inventory and removing it.
donttouchmethere Posted July 25, 2020 Posted July 25, 2020 43 minutes ago, Heroine of the Night said: xpmse should overwrite sos, not the other way around I go with the rule, nothing overwrites your skeleton Yes for the files ? Left side in MO ? Alternative: Don't install the SOS skeleton with the SOS FOMOD "I go with the rule, nothing overwrites your skeleton" Right, until you have to overwrite XPMSE files for example with MNC/ABC
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted July 25, 2020 Posted July 25, 2020 59 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: Yes for the files ? Left side in MO ? Alternative: Don't install the SOS skeleton with the SOS FOMOD "I go with the rule, nothing overwrites your skeleton" Right, until you have to overwrite XPMSE files for example with MNC/ABC my xpmse overwrites MNC, no problems. Not saying your wrong, I might have something in LO that allows me to, idk I don't use ABC,so again, idk Definitely want xpmse overwriting sos
donttouchmethere Posted July 25, 2020 Posted July 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Heroine of the Night said: my xpmse overwrites MNC, no problems. Not saying your wrong, I might have something in LO that allows me to, idk I don't use ABC,so again, idk Definitely want xpmse overwriting sos From my experience, if the files get overwritten (not LO) you can be a bit sloppier in LO. I really need to learn the right names for Skyrim modding processes ?
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted July 25, 2020 Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: Right, until you have to overwrite XPMSE files for example with MNC/ABC With newer version of MNC or if using ABC you should overwrite skeleton. I don't use those mods myself, but I just had an informed individual^^^ clear it up for me. So Pickles is correct on that one.
OH1972 Posted July 26, 2020 Author Posted July 26, 2020 23 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: That is the old version, I guess you try to create a devious retro LO? I'm not "trying" anything, went back to a profile I didn't use in a while and installed some newer mods that sounded interesting but didn't necessarily go through every single mod installed to check for updates. May also be that I have some things in there that were originally required for other things I removed in the meantime. Any help sorting things out is appreciated.
donttouchmethere Posted July 26, 2020 Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, OH1972 said: I'm not "trying" anything, went back to a profile I didn't use in a while and installed some newer mods that sounded interesting but didn't necessarily go through every single mod installed to check for updates. AH! That explains it. Well, some ppl like it retro, like staying with an old ZAP or DDi version for compatibility or because they like the older versions better. I'm just surprised that you are surprised that you get glitches if you don't update frameworks while adding newer mods. Best approach would be to update the framework mods like ZAP and DD. After that go thru your mods and check for updates. To me it looks like you worked on that LO the last time about 2 or 3 years ago, before adding completely new mods now. It's hard to help without seeing the mod versions. Also some of the older mods that relay on older DDi / ZAP versions might not work correctly anymore after updating the frameworks. Some mods like POP have new requirements now. What hits the hardest is that DDi and ZAP are now separated and DDi has a new tag "heavy_bondage". This in turn makes older mods that didn't get updated to newer DDi versions incompatible with newer mods that need the newest DDi. That's why you need to decide for yourself if you want to update to newer mods or keep playing the old ones. With MO you can have multiple profiles, so you could theoretically just start a new LO in a new Profile and keep the old mod combination. Might even want to rebuild. Some inspiration here: Spoiler
HealKitten Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 On 7/25/2020 at 8:07 AM, OH1972 said: Secondly, when the PC is naked, other characters will walk up to her saying "Here I've got some clothes that will be sure to cover you up". The problem is that from then on, they will not say anything else anymore - even when the character is dressed again! This is especially problematic when that NPC is a follower, as it basically requires going back to a previous save. By any chance, did anyone find a solution to this issue? I'm having the same problem (dialogue prevents follower dialogue), and I tried to figure out which mod was causing it - but a google-search showed this thread as the *only* useful result, so I'm not sure how to get NPCs functioning again.
Tlam99 Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Kittenpox said: By any chance, did anyone find a solution to this issue? I'm having the same problem (dialogue prevents follower dialogue), and I tried to figure out which mod was causing it - but a google-search showed this thread as the *only* useful result, so I'm not sure how to get NPCs functioning again. fall of dragonborn Just switch off the animations there dialogue blocker and break animations
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